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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Verity » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:55 pm

no way was that a clean catch last night, you can see the bloody ball on the ground. dumbasses
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:53 pm

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hipsters

you should see some of the ridiculous beards in this country lately. the dumb idiots look like bushrangers


You mean hippies.Yes.


no I mean hipsters
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:09 am

Verity wrote:no way was that a clean catch last night, you can see the bloody ball on the ground. dumbasses


who is complaining?

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Loose halo » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:18 am

Morgan knew it was not out too he was evasive in his reply.

Good to see the third umpire showing some fortitude against the onfield soft finger decision unlike Dharmasena in the Smith case.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby bolero » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:22 am

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You mean hippies.Yes.


no I mean hipsters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_( ... subculture)


Ok.Get it.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:43 am

Loose halo wrote:Morgan knew it was not out too he was evasive in his reply.

Good to see the third umpire showing some fortitude against the onfield soft finger decision unlike Dharmasena in the Smith case.


Poms always win twitter consensus though because there's twice as many of them

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Loose halo » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:54 am

Both Aussie commentators said it was out. Surprised Taylor agreed with sycophant Clarke saying he got his fingers under it. He did but not all of it.

This BS about being a two dimensional image and therefore unreliable raised it's ugly head again.

Try telling that to the police in a criminal case.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:15 am

low catches always seem to bring out the worst in players
they dont get this irate for marginal lbws or missed edges

just accept the third umpire decision and move on FFS instead of whining like little bitches

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018pm

Postby Tinsel » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:56 pm

I wish good Luck to new NZ keeper Tim Seifert and mark Chapman ( specialist batsman) in Rest Of Series After Melbourne Game in nZ

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Boycs » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:12 pm

Katto wrote:low catches always seem to bring out the worst in players
they dont get this irate for marginal lbws or missed edges

just accept the third umpire decision and move on FFS instead of whining like little bitches


Not to mention that it always seems to be the team who lost out who is challenging. You never get a dodgy catch given out and the batting team saying “to be fair we thought it was out.” No, those who lose out to overruled catch decisions are suddenly acting as if they’ve been a champion all their careers for leaving decisions on the hands of field umpires and trusting fielders - old honour rules/codes and all that. Then the moment their wicket is spared thanks to a successful technical challenge they’re the biggest supporter of more technical input.

They do the same with walking or not walking

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Loose halo » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:20 pm

My reliable grapevine says Dharmasena was heavily criticised for giving Smith out on a similar grassed catch.

Apparently he was told he was the one with the slow motion/zoom technology and should have given Smith not out after later scrutiny by the experts.

This would have influenced the third Umpire in Maxwell's case.

Let's face it none of us were sure until we saw the replays.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Tinsel » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:56 am

who can hit 34 off Nathan Lyons 6 ball ?

j.Roy
b.stokes
d.Willey


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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Loose halo » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:45 am

Peter Handscomb and Mitchell Swepson have performed well in the BBL as well.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:04 am

I agree with most others here. There was sufficient ball on the ground to warrant a no catch.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:51 am

Tinsel wrote:who can hit 34 off Nathan Lyons 6 ball ?

j.Roy
b.stokes
d.Willey


http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1088 ... rd/1072315
why we not sends him @ 4 tomorrow at melbourne


Canberra is probably the worst place in Australia for spinners. Bad luck for Lyon to play rep cricket a few times there and get caned.
He's a good limited overs bowler, that's where he cut his teeth, in the T20 BB as it was then.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Tinsel » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:57 am

Nathan had old lable of test bowler
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Loose halo » Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:43 am

Several things which time doesn't allow ATM.

Carey is wasted at 7 and Warner has to score big. Take Maxwell out of the first game and Australia struggle.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:52 am

Warner has had a shit season.
Too much cricket? Hasn't adjusted to nerfed bats?

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:18 am

Just 39 for Maxwell. A tidy T20 innings, but not good enough for ODIs.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:42 am

Three from three by the A red hot Aussies. Look certain now to be in the final. Now the T20 circus ups and heads for the Land of the Long white Cloud for the completion of the competition. Kinda odd this.

Off topic. Flicked over to the ODIs in Sth Africa after the Tri Series presentation and the Saffers are wearing pink while many in the crowd are doing likewise. Do they also support the McGrath Foundation or i s it for another reason? Interesting.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:43 am

Loose halo wrote:Several things which time doesn't allow ATM.

Carey is wasted at 7 and Warner has to score big. Take Maxwell out of the first game and Australia struggle.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:48 am

Loose halo wrote:Several things which time doesn't allow ATM.

Carey is wasted at 7 and Warner has to score big. Take Maxwell out of the first game and Australia struggle.
Agree. There is some serious talent not getting a hit in this T20 series.. Alex Carey as you alluded to.. the striking power of Ashton Agar.. Warner is in diabolical form. Drop down the order Davey and put Finch back there or perhaps Maxwell. Carey has opened in BBL.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:52 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Three from three by the A red hot Aussies. Look certain now to be in the final. Now the T20 circus ups and heads for the Land of the Long white Cloud for the completion of the competition. Kinda odd this.

Off topic. Flicked over to the ODIs in Sth Africa after the Tri Series presentation and the Saffers are wearing pink while many in the crowd are doing likewise. Do they also support the McGrath Foundation or i s it for another reason? Interesting.


big pharma

would be good if some of this money went into research as to why rates are skyrocketing, but there's no profit in that

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:19 pm

Aus back in groove.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:46 pm

big pharma. Please explain.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:50 pm

bolero wrote:Aus back in groove.
They are a well oiled T20 machine. Should keep this side and nurture it for the next T20 WC. Room for one more batsman and one of either Hazlewood, Cummins or Starc.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:50 am

baggygreenmania wrote:big pharma. Please explain.


sickness industry. there's billions of dollars to be made in treatments but no money to be made in prevention

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Loose halo » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:35 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Loose halo wrote:Several things which time doesn't allow ATM.

Carey is wasted at 7 and Warner has to score big. Take Maxwell out of the first game and Australia struggle.
Agree. There is some serious talent not getting a hit in this T20 series.. Alex Carey as you alluded to.. the striking power of Ashton Agar.. Warner is in diabolical form. Drop down the order Davey and put Finch back there or perhaps Maxwell. Carey has opened in BBL.


In theory Warner would be better off down the order in t20 when the pitch starts to flatten and the gloss is off the ball he is playing and missing too often if there is movement.

Carey would be a bonus opening with his strike rate and if he gets out you still have Warner.

Interesting to see how this team of openers ends up.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Paddles » Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:55 am

Katto wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:big pharma. Please explain.


sickness industry. there's billions of dollars to be made in treatments but no money to be made in prevention


There is plenty of money in prevention. If someone had a cancer preventing shot, almost the entire Western World would take it, and the next generations would continue to, even at $1,000.00 a pop. Heck - even at $5,000.00 a pop it would sell well. And unlike orthodontic braces, people would even know if they or their children, or their grandchildren would have ever needed it or not. People would pay the money for peace of mind. The flu shot only prevents most flus and for only 12 months, and sells millions. People will pay for prevention. Far far more than those merely afflicted. Big Pharma knows this, and the conspiracy theorists have overlooked this.

The criticism of big pharma is that there appears to be less financial incentive to find cures for diseases and ailments that people already suffer, once there are expensive and ongoing "client for life" disease maintenance medications that keep people alive and fairly healthy despite the illness. E.g. why find a cure vaccine for HIV whether it 25 %50% or 99.9% successful , when you can sell 20 or 30 or more years worth of HIV medication that prevent aids developing and keep the 25%, 50% to 99.9% patients fairly fit and healthy, and customers? But if you could prevent HIV, well - that'd sell to people that don't have the disease as well. There's huge money in prevention due to the customer base, cures, well your customers are only those actually afflicted.

It is a famous criticism of "Big Pharma" in the market paradigm, but you got the customer base wrong Katto with the use of "prevention" and not "disease maintenance" or mere "symptom treating" or the like.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Tinsel » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:41 am

The Following Are The Leading Run Scorers In Trans-Tasman Series:

1. Glenn Maxwell Takes The First Spot After Continuously Performed Brilliantly In All Three Matches . He Has 182 Runs With An Average Of 182 And A Whopping Strike Rate Of 169 . His Highest Score Is 102 Not Out.

2.Chris Lynn Takes The Second Spot After Performing Well In 1st And 3rd Match . He Scored 75 Runs With Average Of 25 And Strike Rate Of 139 . His Highest Score Is 44 Not Out .

3.D'Arcy Short Secures 3rd Spot With 70 Runs With Average Of 35 And Stike Rate Of 123 . His Highest Score Is 35 Not Out.

4.Dawid Malan Picks Up 4th Spot After Perfroming Well In His Team's Two Matches . He Scored 60 Runs At An Average Of 30 And Strike Rate Of 130 . His Highest Score Is 50.

5.Jos Buttler Wasn't In His Full Form But Still He Takes 5th Spot With 51 Runs . His Average Is 26 And Strike Rate Is 91 . His Highest Score Is 46 Not Out
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Loose halo » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:14 am

Self help is a form of prevention these days.

See your GP and ask for a full torso CT or PET scan using dye (chin to genitals). This covers all your vital organs.

Imaging these days will pick up any tumerous cells benign or otherwise. You will get a lengthy written detailed report and the language will be simple and confident.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Paddles » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:34 pm

Loose halo wrote:Self help is a form of prevention these days.

See your GP and ask for a full torso CT or PET scan using dye (chin to genitals). This covers all your vital organs.

Imaging these days will pick up any tumerous cells benign or otherwise. You will get a lengthy written detailed report and the language will be simple and confident.


Early detection helps in mitigation of damage, not quite the same thing as prevention.

But self help certainly aids in prevention, quitting smoking, wearing sun screen if in the sun for a prolonged period of time, for instance.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Boycs » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:35 pm

How did we get on to this?

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Paddles » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:02 pm

Boycs wrote:How did we get on to this?


South African team wearing pink.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Tinsel » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:09 pm

Paddles wrote:
Boycs wrote:How did we get on to this?


South African team wearing pink.

Breast cancer Awareness day feb 10, so far no one defeat Southafrica on this particular
PINK DAY —- their lead now 7/0 victory last one was memorable when ABD hits 44 ball 149
Yesterday SOA won with DLS into play vs mighty India
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:33 am

Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
sickness industry. there's billions of dollars to be made in treatments but no money to be made in prevention


There is plenty of money in prevention. If someone had a cancer preventing shot, almost the entire Western World would take it, and the next generations would continue to, even at $1,000.00 a pop. Heck - even at $5,000.00 a pop it would sell well. And unlike orthodontic braces, people would even know if they or their children, or their grandchildren would have ever needed it or not. People would pay the money for peace of mind. The flu shot only prevents most flus and for only 12 months, and sells millions. People will pay for prevention. Far far more than those merely afflicted. Big Pharma knows this, and the conspiracy theorists have overlooked this.

The criticism of big pharma is that there appears to be less financial incentive to find cures for diseases and ailments that people already suffer, once there are expensive and ongoing "client for life" disease maintenance medications that keep people alive and fairly healthy despite the illness. E.g. why find a cure vaccine for HIV whether it 25 %50% or 99.9% successful , when you can sell 20 or 30 or more years worth of HIV medication that prevent aids developing and keep the 25%, 50% to 99.9% patients fairly fit and healthy, and customers? But if you could prevent HIV, well - that'd sell to people that don't have the disease as well. There's huge money in prevention due to the customer base, cures, well your customers are only those actually afflicted.

It is a famous criticism of "Big Pharma" in the market paradigm, but you got the customer base wrong Katto with the use of "prevention" and not "disease maintenance" or mere "symptom treating" or the like.


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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:34 am

Tinsel wrote:
Paddles wrote:
South African team wearing pink.

Breast cancer Awareness day feb 10, so far no one defeat Southafrica on this particular
PINK DAY —- their lead now 7/0 victory last one was memorable when ABD hits 44 ball 149
Yesterday SOA won with DLS into play vs mighty India


as if anyone isn't aware of it by now

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Boycs » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:12 am

“I’m 100-ish %” says Williamson. Hah. Way to inspire confidence.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Paddles » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:15 am

Tinsel wrote:http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/100336/kane-williamson-eoin-morgan-in-race-against-fitness-for-crucial-wellington-encounter-new-zealand-vs-england-t20i-cricket

No one know about Morgan and Williamson’s slow progress than, me


With a talent like KW, the smart play is to back him to get better after telling him that what they're doing now aint good enough.

He is very Crowe like in his liking and thinking between test and limited overs. But Crowe spent the last few years of his playing days as a dominant limited overs player after more humble beginnings. KW has talent and smarts like Crowe did, he has the smarts to think of new approaches and the talent to execute well.

For me KW's success in t20 isn't a case of if, but when. But better this year than next or the year after.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Paddles » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:26 am

KW 1 Doull 0

Doull had to give motm to KW.
Loved it.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

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Cong 1/0 NZ

Winner is Seifert and his back to back two sixes which broke both the tires of Boyces Bike

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Paddles » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:13 am

Tinsel wrote:Cong 1/0 NZ

Winner is Seifert and his back to back two sixes which broke both the tires of Boyces Bike

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12 runs england Beaten


Seifert played a little gem.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Boycs » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:27 pm

Paddles you must be a little miffed at your hero Colin the big man?

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:31 pm

Oh England!! How many of you perished to poorly executed slog sweeps. Black caps are alive and likely finalists.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Paddles » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:01 am

Boycs wrote:Paddles you must be a little miffed at your hero Colin the big man?


Why would I be miffed at CDG?

For a 1st ball duck?

No worries - I thought he hit it well, on another day or at Eden Park - that is a 6.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:33 am

Did not know where to post this.

Ok I hear you all saying "who cares about women's cricket".

Since Cricket Australia put our women on central contracts along with our men then women's cricket became serious. So when is the ICC going to take it serious and introduce Test cricket to nations other than Australia and England? The organisation had the perfect chance to raise the profile of the women's game this March when the Aussie Southern Stars tour India, as I understand it for the first time. Yes this is a positive step but why is a Test match not being added to the limited overs intinerary?
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:37 am

Boycs wrote:How did we get on to this?
PM Boycs.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Paddles » Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:53 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Did not know where to post this.

Ok I hear you all saying "who cares about women's cricket".

Since Cricket Australia put our women on central contracts along with our men then women's cricket became serious. So when is the ICC going to take it serious and introduce Test cricket to nations other than Australia and England? The organisation had the perfect chance to raise the profile of the women's game this March when the Aussie Southern Stars tour India, as I understand it for the first time. Yes this is a positive step but why is a Test match not being added to the limited overs intinerary?


BGM, try opening up a women's cricket thread instead of derailing this one.

When you do, think about what exactly Australia paying female cricketers on central contracts with Cricket Australia has to do with the ICC as the ICC is not party to the contract? What do tours without test matches have to do with the ICC when the ICC does not organise nor prescribe the bilateral arrangements? Do you want the ICC to pay for and schedule opposition for the Australian woman's team to play for the Aussie cricket fan just because the Australian team is full of pro's? Where will this money come from? Is it actually where the members want it spent? Would it actually help grow and promote the women's cricket everywhere or just serve Australia and Australian cricket fans?

Further, keep in mind that Australia and England are not the only woman's cricket nations to have played test matches.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/conten ... 83305.html

Seems like Cricket Australia may have to dig a bit deeper into their pockets and fund some opposition to play more tests against if that is what Cricket Australia and the Australian fan wants and will pay for. At least Kerry Packer when he launched the World Series Cricket revolution for men's cricket he realised he had to buy some opposition for Australia to play against too. The 'Big 3' cricket fiscal thinking seems to overlook this reality, not just for men's cricket now it would seem.

If Cricket Australia wants to throw some money around and generate a global test women's cricket championship - do it by all means. But if you want the ICC to fund it and organise it, from where will it get the funds? Money for cricket is a big problem outside the Big 3. That is the commercial reality that Ireland, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, NZ, Pakistan, South Africa, West Indies and Bangladesh face even in the men's game. If the men's game is cut - the game is far more open to potential non ICC sanctioned rebel leagues, like Packer and the ICL did. The BCCI has money for Indian cricket earned through the men's IPL and international events as well as ICC share, but good luck ordering them how to spend it. As it stands they were prepared to boycott the men's Champions Trophy so as to ensure unequal revenue share from the ICC of more than double the rest of the members.

Right now, women's cricket in Australia is like men's cricket in India. With all the funds at their disposal and demand, they are in a situation where due to their resources that they hold all the sway globally, but they still need someone to play against if they want international cricket to continue. But the money to fund it still has to come from somewhere.

To get a sense of perspective on the non-Big 3 divide, the Australian women cricketers are earning on retainer more or less parity with the NZ men's team, who have already been losing players to T20 leagues. South Africa men's team is losing talent to Kolpak in county leagues, international superstar Abbott included. The West Indian team has been shattered by defecting players to t20 leagues (already paid more than NZ cricketers). Men's cricket is already financially battling to remain afloat and competitive outside the Big 3. So how of this anything to do with the ICC? You want it to order its members to fund what it is not profitable to suit the Australian cricket fan when it is unable to sort out the men's game globally which is already hugely profitable, albeit those profits are made by in large in just 3 countries with the remaining countries not profitable but for global tv?

BGM, I think it would be better if you suggested how the ICC funds women's test cricket, (if the members want it), instead of asking why the ICC doesn't force it upon their members. NZ men will play just 4 tests in over 18 months in 2017 to 2018. There just isn't the money or demand for more. The BCCI could easily fund women's test cricket globally from the IPL revenue alone, but good luck telling them to do that. They could also just walk away and establish their own new global cricket council and buy member board nations. But cricket funding comes from the Big 3 nations and their audiences, so that is the place to start if you want funding for something of this scale in cricket.

In a possibly utopian environment, the ICC would control all international cricket and handle all broadcast deals, and treat international cricket like a premiership giving all members or invest into its teams an equal share of its revenues, and there would be more than enough money made in India alone from men's cricket to comfortably and handsomely fund global cricket equally even if altruistically in certain regions for men and women. But it appears that Indian nationalists have had enough of being the jewel in the crown to pay for the whims of foreigners. And there are still 3 wealthy national cricket boards who would giving up what they have now for less to do it. So that leaves you stuck with economic realities. Make a product that the cricket fan in India wants - and you'll get paid just barely enough to continue the supply of it at a slightly dimished standard of potential. Risk dropping standards too much - risk dimishing the existing demand level and price paid for it. But don't expect the fan in India to necessarily or altruitically fund the development of further products overseas until they actually demand them. And even then, as observed by the ICL and IPL - charity begins at home.
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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Katto » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:07 pm

Paddles wrote:BGM, try opening up a women's cricket thread instead of derailing this one.


stop acting like a c**t.

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Re: Tri Nation T20I Series: New Zealand, Australia & England; Feb 3-21, 2018

Postby Going South » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:07 pm

i wonder who the commentators and umpires and ICC match referees etc for these “white” games? I would love to see some asian representation as asians do invite outsiders in their locally played games. let me count on it.





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