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2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Boycs » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:18 am

Right, lets talk about the Ashes. Lord knows it's more important than the IPL :popcorn:

I know the first Test isn't for another month but the build-up begins now.

If we're talking the Ashes then in England we're going to have to talk about the possibility of Stokes not being allowed to travel. Are we doomed without him? Are we not?

Australia might be talking about their pace attack. Who will it consist of?

James Pattinson has been ruled out due to injury.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... contention

The England squad, to me, looks pretty weak. James Vince? Going back to Balance again? Malan doesn't convince me. I wanted Westley back in the team and I wanted Hameed but I think the latter is injured, again.

Ben Foakes is a fair shout, he is one on the radar as a future England player and had a fair season this year. Backup wicket keeper too. Excited to see if he makes the final XI.

Mason Crane. Who the f**k is he? 42+ FC bowling average? Get lost. When you have 26 year old Jack Leach taking his wickets at under 27.00 in the county game why are you persisting with no-hopers?

Jake Ball I'm pleased with, and Craig Overton is a fair punt. And then we've got the rest of the main England team as normal.

Discuss.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:57 am

A lot of people I've never heard of selected for England. That doesnt mean they're no good though.
These kinds of squads are when new heroes are made.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Bhumin » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:16 pm

Malan dose not Convince you? Strauss and Root not thinking that way.I think Malan will be come out as Best finds of England after the Ashes tour because once you have ability to stay on the wickets'' you can win many battle with ease''.

I think Crane will play at Melbourne test.Frankly speaking, I would like Finn in Australia for bench than Overton.Vince deserved while GB gets one final chance, I think England looking for either him or Vince for number 3.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Bhumin » Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:17 pm

Katto wrote:A lot of people I've never heard of selected for England. That doesnt mean they're no good though.
These kinds of squads are when new heroes are made.

Tell Us those names.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby raja » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:04 pm

Can't see Australia winning this series.
This is a very good England side.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Bhumin » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:20 pm

when Australia win at Bangalore vs BCCI, you says ''we''
Are you Supporters of Bollywood star Amitabh Bacchan?
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Boycs » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:23 pm

raja wrote:Can't see Australia winning this series.
This is a very good England side.


Hmmm. Jimmy is ATG in England. But he’s a lesser great outside. Broad also world class.

Root and cook world class and bairstow also nearly there this time.

But the others? Unproven (or even tried and failed) or just plain “fair”.

And to win In australia you need very good and inform from one to eleven.

Crane? Vince? Balance? Malan? Unproven untried average, tried and failed, or just plain not good enough. Crane doesn’t even have good enough stats to be a success at county level.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:23 am

but dont forget, Australia have Steve Smith as captain

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Boycs » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:47 am

Flintoff seems to think it’s our best ever side. But it’s not. It’s got some of our best ever players. But the remaining players are weak.

Ashes 2017-18: Andrew Flintoff says England Test side is 'best we've ever had'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41507153

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:13 am

excuses aside, whatever the case if you lose it'll be to a weak Australian team in disarray :mrgreen:

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Boycs » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:17 am

But at home where it doesn’t matter :P

Besides you’ve not won here since 2001 or something!

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby squarecut » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:43 am

Australians looked short of confidence against Bangladesh and India. Hopefully they would have regrouped in time. Ashes is fun only when Australia is crushing England. Like Raja,1974-75 Ashes is still fresh in my memory. :)

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:20 am

squarecut wrote:Australians looked short of confidence against Bangladesh and India. Hopefully they would have regrouped in time. Ashes is fun only when Australia is crushing England. Like Raja,1974-75 Ashes is still fresh in my memory. :)


2006-07 and 2013-14 were fun :up:

lately when Australia win a home series, they tend to sweep it

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Paddles » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:39 am

raja wrote:Can't see Australia winning this series.
This is a very good England side.


I think we can all agree that Root and Cook are from the top drawer.

I think we mostly agree that Bairstow is a fine cricketer with a good temperament.

With Stokes I see Aussie winning the series.

Without Stokes I see England in selection disaray without a hint or clue what to do with selection balance as Broad and Anderson are iffy about long spells in the cooler England summer and it gets much hotter downunder. Anderson had joy only in 2010/11 in Straya. Broad and Anderson like lively decks, not the flat and lifeless desert roads that Straya serve up.

Straya have Warner and Smith, but also Khawaja at home. They may rotate a bit between Head, Handscomb, Maxwell et al but these guys have had more success and experience than their English equivalents. But despite Pattinson out, Aus still have Haze, Starc and Lyon used to long spells on the sun on flat decks. Cummins too will be at home (although debut'ing) and got climatised to heat in India and Bangladesh. But Bird, Stanlake, NCN and more are waiting for a sniff of an opportunity.

Put simply, the options for Pattinson out number the options for England for Stokes (and TRJ) but possibly robs us of a fast 4some option that has long been welcome by many in the cricket world. But I doubt that the GOAT will rest on his laurels.

No Stokes: England will possibly promote Ali to 6, Woakes to 8, and play another bowler and then replace this bowler with a batsman, and vice versa throughout the Ashes.

In Australia, they talk about cricket being a batsman's game, but to win in Straya, it takes a high quality attack to succeed with a kookaburra ball which offers less to bowlers, pitches that are non-responsive, the crowds taunts, the media presence, the heat and hard ground surfaces, all which put conditions in the batsman's favour. A team can post a big score, with high scorers on the flat pitches like Kohli and KP, and still get thrashed easily. The exception to this is the day night test where at night, the ball talks. Safrica, WI, and NZ(with Hadlee) won in Straya by taking seamers who prove their worth. No Tremlett for England this time. Anderson is 7 years older than he was last time he performed well in Straya. Obviously no famously flukey Botham from 86 neither. Will someone do a flukey debut series like Gladstone Small?
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby bolero » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:58 am

Butcher Moeen Ali is the dark horse.

I see Cummins performing well. Australia will fight very hard.

This is a good England side looks like.

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Ben Stokes Withdraw from Ashes Tour 2017/18 (temp)

Postby Bhumin » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:58 am

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/97 ... shes-squad

Shocking news for entire cricket Fertinity

He retained his central contract with ECB.Alex Finn will go to Australia with English team
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Paddles » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:31 pm

bolero wrote:Butcher Moeen Ali is the dark horse.

I see Cummins performing well. Australia will fight very hard.

This is a good England side looks like.


I agree Ali is the dark horse. But I think it is with the bat. Either way, there is so much fragility above him in the batting order. I foresee more salvage jobs than wins set up.

Cummins may snag okay results if he bangs it in short like Johnson and the fledgling England batsmen welter. Then again, he may get injured or dropped before the series is over.
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Re: Ben Stokes Withdraw from Ashes Tour 2017/18 (temp)

Postby Bhumin » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:12 pm

Paddles,
This is hot news
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Re: Ben Stokes Withdraw from Ashes Tour 2017/18 (temp)

Postby Boycs » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:46 pm

Think we knew that was coming

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:00 am

Paddles wrote:Cummins may snag okay results if he bangs it in short like Johnson and the fledgling England batsmen welter. Then again, he may get injured or dropped before the series is over.


LOL, so agenda driven now

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Paddles » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:42 am

Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:Cummins may snag okay results if he bangs it in short like Johnson and the fledgling England batsmen welter. Then again, he may get injured or dropped before the series is over.


LOL, so agenda driven now


Don't flatter yourself. I called him a poor man's Pattinson before you ran to his defence and made this into a cricforum saga.

Read my post again, its critical definitely, but agenda driven? Again you're a slave to ad hominem or you believe an alternative is almost certain - like him successfully bowling a suffocating Hazlewood type off stump line strictly in the channel? You really think Cummins has that in his radar without the wide looseners? No - I bet ya his role as previously wil be to bowl fast and intimidate according to Waugh and Lehman. Want me to find urls for you?

Dumb dumb.

Surely you don't doubt he may get injured? As for dropping - why is this so unlikely according to you? You really think he's going to be an ATG?

Yet again - you have turned the subject matter to me instead of discussing the content of my posts. If you want to talk about Cummins - talk about Cummins. But I have very little inclination to talk about myself to you. If you are so keen as to want to discuss me and any agendas you think that I have - go start a thread on me. This is not the thread for it.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:53 am

Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
LOL, so agenda driven now


Don't flatter yourself. I called him a poor man's Pattinson before you ran to his defence and made this into a cricforum saga.

Read my post again, its critical definitely, but agenda driven? Again you're a slave to ad hominem or you believe an alternative is almost certain - like him successfully bowling a suffocating Hazlewood type off stump line strictly in the channel? You really think Cummins has that in his radar without the wide looseners? No - I bet ya his role as previously wil be to bowl fast and intimidate according to Waugh and Lehman. Want me to find urls for you?

Dumb dumb.

Surely you don't doubt he may get injured? As for dropping - why is this so unlikely according to you? You really think he's going to be an ATG?

Yet again - you have turned the subject matter to me instead of discussing the content of my posts. If you want to talk about Cummins - talk about Cummins. But I have very little inclination to talk about myself to you. If you are so keen as to want to discuss me and any agendas you think that I have - go start a thread on me. This is not the thread for it.


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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Mick180461 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:29 am

My Aussie side for the 1st Test
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Maxwell/Cartwright
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Lyon
Hazlewood
Prediction Aust 3-1
Touring teams have traditionally won in Australia on the back of Express Pace, Larwood, Tyson, Snow and big runs from the top order. To me England are going to rely too heavily on Cook & Root with the bat and Anderson & Broad with the ball. The big one that worries me for Australia is Smiths captaincy.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Boycs » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:40 am

England will obviously have to wait on the First XI until they know if Stokes is coming out or not.

Two completely different teams in the offing, with and without him.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Bhumin » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:02 pm

Mick180461 wrote:My Aussie side for the 1st Test
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Maxwell/Cartwright
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Lyon
Hazlewood
Prediction Aust 3-1

Touring teams have traditionally won in Australia on the back of Express Pace, Larwood, Tyson, Snow and big runs from the top order. To me England are going to rely too heavily on Cook & Root with the bat and Anderson & Broad with the ball. The big one that worries me for Australia is Smiths captaincy.


Can you stops using Cartwright as Test cricketer? Australian selectors will not selects Nevill anymore for sure Even if IAN HEALY WANTS TO GO TO THE ROOF OF TAJMAHAL AND ANNOUNCES OF NEVILL IN 2017/18 ASHES

Patterson of NSW 1000 times better than Maxwell for Multiday games.Australia

2/2 not rules out: MaCgill will be coaching Crane in Australia,England square series because Australian poor bowling combination by 3 rd test.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Bhumin » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:15 pm

Bhumin wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:My Aussie side for the 1st Test
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Maxwell/Cartwright
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Lyon
Hazlewood
Prediction Aust 3-1

Touring teams have traditionally won in Australia on the back of Express Pace, Larwood, Tyson, Snow and big runs from the top order. To me England are going to rely too heavily on Cook & Root with the bat and Anderson & Broad with the ball. The big one that worries me for Australia is Smiths captaincy.


Can you stops using Cartwright as Test cricketer? Australian selectors will not selects Nevill for LONGER.

i wonder how one can say ""I am best keeper in Australia "" Paine says in India recently
Mr Paine your Batting Average in Domestic cricket is 7.25 as batsman you need to improves too.i think Wade should continue in Test.

Patterson of NSW 1000 times better than Maxwell for Multiday games.Australia

2/2 not rules out: MaCgill will be coaching Crane in Australia,England square series because Australian poor bowling combination by 3 rd test.


You should worry about MS because if you not playing for long time,you never come good in
10 innings as Bowler,his fitness often Questionable.

I do not want to say nothing of Smith's captaincy because once Ozzie pile up runs for their
Road wickets everyone change their opinion on smith,dose not matter how panic he is for nothing.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:38 pm

Stoinis for #6
Paine for (wk)

Misty is right about Neville

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Postby Bhumin » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:59 pm

Katto wrote:Stoinis for #6
Paine for (wk)

Misty is right about Neville

What SGGH has to say about Kattos white avatar ?

Stoinis might good because you can even uses him as part time bowler in the 75th over plus he can able to save his team as he is handy with the bat but still one can not judge player from their Limited overs experiments

Australia must need Ross/Hazeletts/Patterson Or Specialist all rounder than chases those failure
Like Cartwright,,Maxi,Cowan or even youngster like Stoinis or head for their long term Goal.

Try Carey for test keeper.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Bhumin » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:53 pm

Katto wrote:Stoinis for #6
Paine for (wk)

Misty is right about Neville

NeviLL nsw captain getting ready to impress selectors.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:01 pm

Bhumin wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:My Aussie side for the 1st Test
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Handscomb
Maxwell/Cartwright
Nevill
Starc
Cummins
Lyon
Hazlewood
Prediction Aust 3-1

Touring teams have traditionally won in Australia on the back of Express Pace, Larwood, Tyson, Snow and big runs from the top order. To me England are going to rely too heavily on Cook & Root with the bat and Anderson & Broad with the ball. The big one that worries me for Australia is Smiths captaincy.


Can you stops using Cartwright as Test cricketer? Australian selectors will not selects Nevill anymore for sure Even if IAN HEALY WANTS TO GO TO THE ROOF OF TAJMAHAL AND ANNOUNCES OF NEVILL IN 2017/18 ASHES

Patterson of NSW 1000 times better than Maxwell for Multiday games.Australia

2/2 not rules out: MaCgill will be coaching Crane in Australia,England square series because Australian poor bowling combination by 3 rd test.

Your lack of knowledge about Australian FC Cricket makes it hard to for me to accept your opinions. Look at Cartwrights FC record and explain to me how he is not a potential Test player. Patterson has a lot of talent but needs to put it together more consistantly same as Head & Heazlet in FC Cricket.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:22 am

these days you can have great stats in Sheffield Shield and not be good enough to cut it at international level
you can have just good stats in Sheffield Shied and be good enough

such is the falling standard, its not the best indication of success at the highest level as it once was

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby DarkMoon » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:47 pm

Mick180461 wrote:
Bhumin wrote:
Can you stops using Cartwright as Test cricketer? Australian selectors will not selects Nevill anymore for sure Even if IAN HEALY WANTS TO GO TO THE ROOF OF TAJMAHAL AND ANNOUNCES OF NEVILL IN 2017/18 ASHES

Patterson of NSW 1000 times better than Maxwell for Multiday games.Australia

2/2 not rules out: MaCgill will be coaching Crane in Australia,England square series because Australian poor bowling combination by 3 rd test.

Your lack of knowledge about Australian FC Cricket makes it hard to for me to accept your opinions. Look at Cartwrights FC record and explain to me how he is not a potential Test player. Patterson has a lot of talent but needs to put it together more consistantly same as Head & Heazlet in FC Cricket.


So the Australian cricket Authority assuming of Cartwright too good in FC, so he will come good in Ashes consistently.(i can see him failures on each occasions)

Enough is enough.Patterson should given chance now.he hits 80 odd, other day, I think he warms up for Ashes.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby DarkMoon » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:50 pm

I wonder why Ross never selects in any format yet? Yesterday he hammered 32 in one over off Nathan Lyon ---Highest tests wicket taker (46) in tests 2017.
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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby raja » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:58 pm

squarecut wrote:Australians looked short of confidence against Bangladesh and India. Hopefully they would have regrouped in time. Ashes is fun only when Australia is crushing England. Like Raja,1974-75 Ashes is still fresh in my memory. :)

:lolup: :up: :up: :up:

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby bolero » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:28 am

raja wrote:
squarecut wrote:Australians looked short of confidence against Bangladesh and India. Hopefully they would have regrouped in time. Ashes is fun only when Australia is crushing England. Like Raja,1974-75 Ashes is still fresh in my memory. :)

:lolup: :up: :up: :up:


If all of you back Australia, who will back England?

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Barnesjunior » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:52 pm

Steve Waugh wants Henriques in Ashes test team.Can anyone tells me his Stats in Multiday games in Domestic Australia?

He had amazing debut at Delhi for a while ago but one can not judge him from his T20I forms yesterday into test cricket.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby raja » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:44 pm

Australia has a number of bits-and-pieces players like Cartwright and Henriques.
For limited-overs cricket, they might be useful.
Get a quick 30-40 from them, or let them bowl a few tight overs.

But in Test cricket, bits-and-pieces players have almost always been a liability.
By definition, they're not good enough to make the team on either batting or bowling - and you get easily found out in Test cricket.

Moises did very well on his debut in India, everyone went wow.
Check out his Test scores after his debut Test.

One of the reasons Steve Waugh had such a strong Test side was that it didn't have any bits-and-pieces players.
Every player was a top-notch player with bat or with ball (or, in the case of Gilly, with the gloves).
And since there was acute competition (ask Hussey, Lehmann, Love), those who did make it to the playing XI had to be of very high quality.

In this Aussie side, I see too many seats going begging for quality.
No wonder the likes of Cartright and Henriques are being discussed.
Can you imagine such guys making it to Steve Waugh's playing XI in Tests?

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Postby Katto » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:03 pm

Henriques struggled against the seamers in last night's T20 before dominating the spinners later on.
There's a reason why we have different players for different formats.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Barnesjunior » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:08 pm

[quote="raja"]Australia has a number of bits-and-pieces players like Cartwright and Henriques.
For limited-overs cricket, they might be useful.
Get a quick 30-40 from them, or let them bowl a few tight overs.

But in Test cricket, bits-and-pieces players have almost always been a liability.
By definition, they're not good enough to make the team on either batting or bowling - and you get easily found out in Test cricket.

Moises did very well on his debut in India, everyone went wow.
Check out his Test scores after his debut Test.

One of the reasons Steve Waugh had such a strong Test side was that it didn't have any bits-and-pieces players.
Every player was a top-notch player with bat or with ball (or, in the case of Gilly, with the gloves).
And since there was acute competition (ask Hussey, Lehmann, Love), those who did make it to the playing XI had to be of very high quality.

In this Aussie side, I see too many seats going begging for quality.
No wonder the likes of Cartrite and Henriques are being discussed.
Can you imagine such guys making it to Steve Waugh's playing XI in Tests?[/quote

Probably,when you have ''' better than nothing Situation''.i read article on Indian sports
Portal cricbuzz's news highlights.
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Postby Barnesjunior » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:30 pm

Sony Pictures Networks India acquires media rights for Cricket Australia.

The media rights have been acquired for a period of six years.

Sony Pictures Networks India (SPN), on Wednesday (October 11) announced their acquisition of exclusive media rights for cricket in Australia for a period of six years. All the men's and women's international matches played Down Under, starting with the Women's Ashes this year, and encompassing all the action of the summer including the men's Ashes, the Big Bash League and the Women's Big Bash League will be broadcast across Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Afghanistan in addition to India, through their vast sports network of 11 channels.

The agreement also covers a number of countries, including Pakistan and Sri Lanka, that will have access to the cricketing action. The deal will also cover tours of India, Pakistan South Africa and the next Ashes in 2020-21.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby raja » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:29 am

bolero wrote:
raja wrote: :lolup: :up: :up: :up:


If all of you back Australia, who will back England?

There's Boycs, of course.
But yes, more Aussies here than England supporters.

Ok, I'll "support" England.
Root, I'm rooting for you. Don't let me down!

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Postby Going South » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:23 am

no. we don’t believe you raja. you jinx support. SHOOOO. go away.

i would be supporting ECB as they are not playing against BCCI.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Boycs » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:01 am

raja wrote:
bolero wrote:
If all of you back Australia, who will back England?

There's Boycs, of course.
But yes, more Aussies here than England supporters.

Ok, I'll "support" England.
Root, I'm rooting for you. Don't let me down!


I'll create loads of accounts like misty and swarm you with pro-England posts.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:57 am

maybe Aila will come back

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Katto » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:31 am

Katto wrote:Stoinis for #6
Paine for (wk)

Misty is right about Neville


and now this...
Stoinis, Paine in Australia's Ashes frame

Marcus Stoinis celebrates after getting Rohit Sharma's wicket Associated Press
6:07 PM ACDT
Daniel Brettig
Assistant Editor, ESPNcricinfo

Australia's selectors may defy predictions and even domestic cricket custom by choosing the left-field middle-order duo of Marcus Stoinis and Tim Paine for the Ashes, in an effort to end a worrying trend of collapses that threatens their ability to regain the urn on home soil this summer.

Mark Waugh, the selector on duty for the Twenty20 series in India, mentioned Stoinis and Paine in addition to several more obvious candidates for the problematic Nos. 6 and 7 spots in the Australian batting order, after the incumbents Glenn Maxwell and Matthew Wade failed to make certainties of their places with performances in the recent Test tour of Bangladesh.

more
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... shes-frame

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Boycs » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:35 pm

I'm so out of touch with Australian cricket that if you asked me to pick a team for the first Test it would probably look like this:

1. Warner
2.
3. Khawaja
4. Smith
5.
6.
7..... Neville?
8. Injured fast bowler
9. Injured fast bowler
10. Injured fast bowler
11. Nathan Lyon if he's still playing.

Though to be fair the England team sings a similar song.

1. Cook
2. ?
3. ?
4. Root
5. Bairstow
6. Ali
7. ?
8. Broad
9. ?
10. ?
11. Anderson

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Legsidelizzy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:29 pm

Stoneman
Vince
Malan

Foakes ( stokes if returns)
Woakes

RF above team

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Legsidelizzy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:52 pm

Few weeks ago Vince was barely even chicken

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Legsidelizzy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:01 pm

Katto wrote:Henriques struggled against the seamers in last night's T20 before dominating the spinners later on.
There's a reason why we have different players for different formats.


At last,good people in the frame for the Ashes.

Stoinis would be Voges 2.0,at the least a Bradman.

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Re: 2017/2018 Ashes Tour - Pre-Series Discussion

Postby Boycs » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:39 pm

Legsidelizzy wrote:Few weeks ago Vince was barely even chicken


Misty what does this mean?