India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:11 am

louie_db9 wrote:Australia thrashed India in first Test on a 'poor' pitch so it's not impossible to see them win the third Test on a similar/worse track.

It was the bounce the Aussie bowlers were getting in both the 1st & 2 tests that caused so many problems for the Indian Batsman. This wkt is suppose to not only turn but keep low as well, thats the type of wkt which will nullify Australia completely, our bowlers did do the job in the 2nd test, it's the batsman who let us down.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:06 am

Honestly, did CA expect the BCCI to prepare a fast deck just for Cummins? Sure and pigs will fly. Wickets will come in this test on this shocking pitch only if our quicks pitch it up on the stumps a method Josh Hazlewood found so successful at Bangalore. There could also be some reverse as it looks an ball abrasive pitch. Win or lose the toss the Aussies are in for one hell of a struggle here. Sadly I do not think they are up to the task of levelling the series and taking it into a decider.

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:43 am

baggygreenmania wrote:This shocker of a deck looks like completely nullifying any venom from Cummins. Honestly, did CA expect the BCCI to prepare a fast deck just for Pat? Wickets will come in this test on that pitch only if our quicks pitch it up on the stumps a method Josh Hazlewood found so successful at Bangalore. There could also be some reverse as it looks an ball abrasive pitch. Win or lose the toss the Aussies are in for one hell of a struggle here. Sadly I do not think they are up to the task of levelling the series and taking it into a decider.

I could actually see Australia bringing in a Spinner for Starc and Stoinis for Mitch Marsh on this wkt. I would like to see the Match ref get someone to bowl 1/2 Dozen balls on that wkt and check that it is fit for Test Cricket.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:54 am

Mick180461 wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:This shocker of a deck looks like completely nullifying any venom from Cummins. Honestly, did CA expect the BCCI to prepare a fast deck just for Pat? Wickets will come in this test on that pitch only if our quicks pitch it up on the stumps a method Josh Hazlewood found so successful at Bangalore. There could also be some reverse as it looks an ball abrasive pitch. Win or lose the toss the Aussies are in for one hell of a struggle here. Sadly I do not think they are up to the task of levelling the series and taking it into a decider.

I could actually see Australia bringing in a Spinner for Starc and Stoinis for Mitch Marsh on this wkt. I would like to see the Match ref get someone to bowl 1/2 Dozen balls on that wkt and check that it is fit for Test Cricket.

The three decks to date have been unfit for test cricket Mick.. but does the spineless ICC do anything about it. A reprimand is all they give the BCCI.. Big deal does not stop them doing it test after test. There needs to be a law enforced to stop pitch doctoring

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:09 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:I could actually see Australia bringing in a Spinner for Starc and Stoinis for Mitch Marsh on this wkt. I would like to see the Match ref get someone to bowl 1/2 Dozen balls on that wkt and check that it is fit for Test Cricket.

The three decks to date have been unfit for test cricket Mick.. but does the spineless ICC do anything about it. A reprimand is all they give the BCCI.. Big deal does not stop them doing it test after test. There needs to be a law enforced to stop pitch doctoring

Tests are only called off if the Players safety comes into it, I've seen it happen twice both times in the Windies, against England in about 98 when the ball would either take off or literally run straight along the ground. The batting side was 3/17 off 10 overs and the match Ref stopped the test and a game 2-3 yrs ago when the outfield was nothing but sand.

Katto · Postby **Katto** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:32 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:India will win toss, bat first and score 457
Australia will score 187 and 183

That is what you will be hoping. Alas I see something similar. There is simply not sufficient quality against spin in this current squad. Changes need to be made for Bangladesh.

Bangladesh? when are we playing Bangladesh?

Katto · Postby **Katto** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:35 am

baggygreenmania wrote:http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/indian-pitch-doctors-take-their-craft-to-a-new-low-in-ranchi/news-story/e426b26e9ff9485cf82afa6b769e2ec6?utm_source=daily_sportsmail&utm

Have a look at the pitch the ICC has let the BCCI get away with. This is a disgrace. There has to be a new law implemented regarding the preparation of away pitches.

looks ok to me

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:47 am

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Raj92 · Postby **Raj92** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:14 am

Australia prepared for another turning wicket as JSCA Stadium prepares to host its first ever Test match
Read more at http://sportshour247.com/2017/03/14/tou ... chi-pitch/

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:25 am

Looks great to anyone supporting India.

Katto · Postby **Katto** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:01 am

what do you expect, its being played in India - typical Indian pitch

here's an idea, play better and stop whingeing

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:19 am

Katto wrote:what do you expect, its being played in India - typical Indian pitch

here's an idea, play better and stop whingeing

So a typical India pitch always gets the thumbs down from the ICC?

Like I posted earlier we do not have the quality spin players in this squad.

Leo · Postby **Leo** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:22 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Like I posted earlier we do not have the quality spin players in this squad.

Smith the captain???

Katto · Postby **Katto** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:46 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:what do you expect, its being played in India - typical Indian pitch

here's an idea, play better and stop whingeing

So a typical India pitch always gets the thumbs down from the ICC?

Like I posted earlier we do not have the quality spin players in this squad.

That's obvious. The second test was there for the taking though and they bottled it.

Verity · Postby **Verity** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:47 am

Katto wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/indian-pitch-doctors-take-their-craft-to-a-new-low-in-ranchi/news-story/e426b26e9ff9485cf82afa6b769e2ec6?utm_source=daily_sportsmail&utm

Have a look at the pitch the ICC has let the BCCI get away with. This is a disgrace. There has to be a new law implemented regarding the preparation of away pitches.

looks ok to me

Toss will decide Test, whoever bats first wins, Kohli will probably be handed a double sided coin :lol:

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:25 am

At least it does not have visible cracks. So the ball may behave for the first couple of days.

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:30 am

Katto wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:That is what you will be hoping. Alas I see something similar. There is simply not sufficient quality against spin in this current squad. Changes need to be made for Bangladesh.

Bangladesh? when are we playing Bangladesh?

Bangladesh tour, tentatively been scheduled for August, this is the tour we canceled in 2015, due to security concerns. Nothing definate yet.

Loose halo · Postby **Loose halo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:36 am

DID ANYONE SEE THE BALL SHOOTING ALONG THE GROUND SIX INCHES ABOVE THE DECK IN THE LATER STAGES OF EACH TEST?

GREAT FUN TO WATCH BUT THIS IS TEST CRICKET DESIGNED TO FAVOUR GOOD BATTING AS WELL AS BOWLING BELOW THE BELT. :angry:

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:29 am

Loose halo wrote:DID ANYONE SEE THE BALL SHOOTING ALONG THE GROUND SIX INCHES ABOVE THE DECK IN THE LATER STAGES OF EACH TEST?

GREAT FUN TO WATCH BUT THIS IS TEST CRICKET DESIGNED TO FAVOUR GOOD BATTING AS WELL AS BOWLING BELOW THE BELT.

Can not hear you are shouting Loose halo. Very witty. Let us hope that at least the ball comes on in this test match. I expect tho we will not see a lot of the quicks as this deck looks a spin dominating one to me. Another tedious spin fest. Give me a good honest, bouncy, Aussie or Saffer deck any day.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:31 am

The toss is again going to be all important. Smithy's turn aint it?

Loose halo · Postby **Loose halo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:41 am

Yes I am just the wittiest person when I feel dudded.

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:35 am

The Aussies have won the toss, Cummins in and we are going to have a big show this test.

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:36 am

baggygreenmania wrote:The toss is again going to be all important. Smithy's turn aint it?

Appears so.

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:00 am

Australia won toss. Bat first. Game over

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:06 am

Mick180461 wrote:The Aussies have won the toss, Cummins in and we are going to have a big show this test.

That is a good start Mick. Cummins needs to put on the after burners and blast out their top order. Why Maxwell? Any advantage with the toss just went out the window. They are resurrecting a batsman who has not played in the pressure cooker atmosphere of a test match for three years..in a series deciding game. Even Stoinis.. better bat or Agar..better bowler would have been wiser choices.

Katto · Postby **Katto** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:16 am

Going South wrote:Australia won toss. Bat first. Game over

Glenn Maxwell

raja · Postby **raja** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:18 am

Good to see Maxi back. :-)

I can already visualise him hammering Ashwin to all corners of the ground. :-)

Leo · Postby **Leo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:23 am

Horror pitch
- Shane Warne

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:25 am

Application, application and more application boys.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:28 am

raja wrote:Good to see Maxi back. :-)

I can already visualise him hammering Ashwin to all corners of the ground. :-)

raja My mind goes back to his last test playing a sweep shot to the third ball he faced and being bowled or trapped in front. :oops:

Where is Misty?

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:29 am

Going South wrote:Australia won toss. Bat first. Game over

Of the last 8 tests in India, Australia has won the toss and batted 7 times for 1 win & 6 losses, it's an absolute fallacy that batting 1st makes any difference, the vast majority of tests are won by the side that plays better Cricket not the toss. Winning the toss on this wkt is a great start for Australia but we are still going to have to play very good Cricket and we need to put a combined total of around 600 runs (over 2 innings) to give the Spinners the chance to win this test.

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:31 am

Leo wrote:Horror pitch
- Shane Warne

Where is the Pitch they were showing pictures of, this definitely ain't it. :dontknow:

Paddles · Postby **Paddles** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:37 am

The Big Show!

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:38 am

Yes Mick I was thinking the same thing. Renshaw's first five scoring strokes..all boundaries. Looking good the kid.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:00 am

Warners overseas track record is not getting any better. Averaging a piddling @23 in this series. He had the whole ground to dispatch that fullie.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:02 am

Paddles wrote:The Big Show!

Many refer to him back home as "the BIG NO show".

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:38 am

Oh dear Renners after all the hard work seeing off the new ball..plays at one he should have left.

raja · Postby **raja** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:44 am

Now Shaun Marsh gone.
89/3.

We started so well...

Paddles · Postby **Paddles** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:52 am

Commentators telling me again that Kohli's tears would cure cancer but that he hasn't ever cried yet.

That wasn't even Manjekrar; I fear Shastri's affection for Kohli is past platonic.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:56 am

Oh yes the sub continental specialist a whole 2 runs. SMarsh now averaging less than Warner this series.
Peter Handscomb could use a score. Had lofty hopes for him prior to this series.

MikeR68 · Postby **MikeR68** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:13 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Oh yes the sub continental specialist a whole 2 runs. SMarsh now averaging less than Warner this series.
Peter Handscomb could use a score. Had lofty hopes for him prior to this series.

You beat me to it Baggers. Useless both of them.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:34 am

Mike the thing that riles me is this was supposed to be a squad picked on a horses-for-courses basis. That is batsmen that show some competency against spin as that was to be the discipline that would most worry us playing in India. In the three tests to date I have seen no more than two, Smith and Renshaw that can handle the best spin that India can throw at us. Handscomb as been a major let down as the pundits were saying that he is perhaps our best spin player. He has not yet shown that. Today could be the day when he gets his tour on track. I have seen Maxwell use his feet at home against the spinners. But this is different from batting at home.

Mick180461 · Postby **Mick180461** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:04 am

One thing with this Australian side they will be very sharp in the field, with both Maxwell & Warner in the outfield.
So Baggers who's the expert super player of spin bowling that got left behind in Australia :dontknow:

because to be truthfull i can't think of any one off the top of my head.

Leo · Postby **Leo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:06 am

India are doing poor with fielding.

Verity · Postby **Verity** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:07 am

The specialist out for two, worst subcontial specialist ever.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:10 am

Aussies are always sharp in the field. We want those two to score runs. That is what they are in the side for.. plus for Maxwell to maybe jag a wicket or two. I just fiddled thru the stats and guess who is scoring more runs that Warner, Marsh and Handscomb and useless Wade too? Mitchell Starc..is third after Renshaw and Smith. They should hang their heads.

Leo · Postby **Leo** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:11 am

Can we call Starc as an all rounder?

or a bowler who can bat a little.

baggygreenmania · Postby **baggygreenmania** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:13 am

Mick180461 wrote:One thing with this Australian side they will be very sharp in the field, with both Maxwell & Warner in the outfield.
So Baggers who's the expert super player of spin bowling that got left behind in Australia because to be truthfull i can't think of any one off the top of my head.

Top of my head Mick..George Bailey and Hilton Cartwright are better than these knobs.

raja · Postby **raja** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:19 am

132/3.
Not bad.

MikeR68 · Postby **MikeR68** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:27 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Mike the thing that riles me is this was supposed to be a squad picked on a horses-for-courses basis. That is batsmen that show some competency against spin as that was to be the discipline that would most worry us playing in India. In the three tests to date I have seen no more than two, Smith and Renshaw that can handle the best spin that India can throw at us. Handscomb as been a major let down as the pundits were saying that he is perhaps our best spin player. He has not yet shown that. Today could be the day when he gets his tour on track. I have seen Maxwell use his feet at home against the spinners. But this is different from batting at home.

Horses for Courses had 1 stipulation, they had to be selectors favourites as well. Renshaw in a way has been the only constant for Australia even Smith said he had a poor 2nd test only scoring 36 runs in total, but he can't be expected to do it every innings, Marsh did Ok in the 2nd test but Warner as been consistently poor throughout, and not just this series, overseas in general, not forgetting he is Australia's most capped player, supposedly the 2nd best batsman in Australia, yet rarely gives an innings of any note that bails Australia out of trouble. I expected Renshaw and Handscomb to struggle in their first overseas test series, Renshaw has stepped up, very much in the mould of the greatest opener ever in Hayden, who made his mark in the India test series, lets hope that's a sign of things to come. This test may be Handscomb's time, if not, I won't hold it against him. We have to get rid of the show ponies ASAP, 6 loses in the last 11 tests (7 in 12 if we lose this one).