2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:59 am

This is our semi occasional test draft thread where we run a draft and all pick a best test xi to argue over.

Pre draft discussion thread located here.

This year you can pick any test player.... provided they have played no more than 50 matches.

Here are some previous draft threads:
ODI Worst XI Draft
Test Draft Voting 2013
Test Draft 2013 Presentation
Test Draft 1877-1977 Discussion

RULES FOR THIS YEARS DRAFT FOLLOW.

Any player that has no more than 50 test caps is eligible.

(Test caps as taken from cricinfos statguru at end of voting stages)

Participates will take it in turns to select one player each round;

The sequence is as below.
Raja
Ted
BoyCaught30
Misty
Verity
SuperGLS
GoingSouth
Leo
spare#1
Spare#2

(NEW ENTRIES ARE ALWAYS WELCOME AND WILL SLOT IN WHERE AVAILABLE, RESPOND BELOW IF YOU WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BE INCLUDED)

Every 2nd round the order will be in reverse.
Participates will have 24 hours to select there player, if they fail to select a player within 24 hours they have to wait until the end of round 11 to make the selection for the round they missed; miss 3 rounds and you are disqualified.

Each team will have 11 players, team make up is completely up to you.

Voting will be based on how each team does touring against each of the current test sides using current test rules.

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:00 pm

Draft Table;

	1st	2nd	3rd	4th	5th	6th	7th	8th	9th	10th	11th
Raja	Syd Barnes	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
Ted	Andy Roberts..	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
BoyCaught30..	Glenn Turner	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
Misty	Everton Weekes	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
Verity	Clyde Walcott	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
Louie_db9	George Headley	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
GoingSouth	R Ashwin	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
Super	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
Leo	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11

New people can still be included - just show your interest in this thread.

Players picked.

Syd Barnes, Andy Roberts, Glenn Turner, Everton Weekes, Clyde Walcott, George Headley, R Ashwin

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:02 pm

RAJAS TURN TO POST!!!

RAJA HAS UNTIL THIS COUNTER RUNS DOWN TO POST (i.e until January 3rd Coordinated Universal Time )
Countdown Clock

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:24 pm

Raja said he would be busy till first week of January. We can skip first round and he would back-fill two picks on next turn.

raja · Postby **raja** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:31 pm

Thanks for running this, Ted.

I open with Syd Barnes.

27 Tests -> 189 wickets.

Try beating that!

No, don't even bother! :-)

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:42 pm

Good, this draft can get off to a racing start.

I'll go with Andy Roberts, part of the West Indies fast bowling revolution of the 70s.

47 matches and 202 wickets including 11 five-fers.

(I changed my mind twice before picking this one),.

SGs TURN!

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:45 pm

Is Misty playing? there is a slot available after Sg and after Verity. Until he confirms though we shall assume he is not playing.

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:19 pm

Glenn Turner as my first opener! 41 test matches, 2991 runs at 44. The ultimate cultured craftsman and therefore a batsman with style particularly to my liking.

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:21 pm

TedWard wrote:Good, this draft can get off to a racing start.

I'll go with Andy Roberts, part of the West Indies fast bowling revolution of the 70s.

47 matches and 202 wickets including 11 five-fers.

(I changed my mind twice before picking this one),.

SGs TURN!

I had no idea Roberts played so few games. But then I suppose that wasn't such a low total for a man of his talent in those days.

Will they ever make WSC count as FC statistics I wonder

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:46 am

VERITYS TURN!!!

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:24 am

Misty has said that he wants to play but given that his post threw an insult out at the rest of them it got removed.

Add him as spare2 maybe?

Leo · Postby **Leo** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:38 am

^^ It's Ted's call. But it will be a bit difficult to handle him due to his spamming attitude.

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:05 pm

I've not heard anything since his post was removed.

So unless I hear otherwise it's Veritys turn.

Ofcourse anyone is welcome to join in at any stage, just post on this thread.

louie_db9 · Postby **louie_db9** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:08 pm

I would like to join if any space still available.

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:34 pm

Are we happy to have general draft discussions here too? I know it makes teds job harder but I think it makes it more friendly and less sterile than having a separate banter thread

Because I've definitely picked the best opener so far!

louie_db9 · Postby **louie_db9** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:38 pm

By the way are you allowed to have current players who have played fewer than 50 Tests?

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:40 pm

I believe so

raja · Postby **raja** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:06 pm

It would be more fun if we kept out current players (maybe have a rule that the player should have played his last Test before 31-12-2014 or something like that) but since we didn't put this rule in before we started the draft, I guess we'll have to accommodate current players. *sigh*

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:07 pm

raja wrote:It would be more fun if we kept out current players (maybe have a rule that the player should have played his last Test before 31-12-2014 or something like that) but since we didn't put this rule in before we started the draft, I guess we'll have to accommodate current players. *sigh*

I've got a great pick in my mind for my other opener that you would like

raja · Postby **raja** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:52 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:
raja wrote:It would be more fun if we kept out current players (maybe have a rule that the player should have played his last Test before 31-12-2014 or something like that) but since we didn't put this rule in before we started the draft, I guess we'll have to accommodate current players. *sigh*

I've got a great pick in my mind for my other opener that you would like

Glenn Turner is a decent pick, no doubt, but there are plenty of other openers out there. :-)

Misty · Postby **Misty** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:12 pm

My selection is Everton WEEKES:48 test 4455 runs :average 58.61 : 15 test century : 19 score of 50.

SuperGLS · Postby **SuperGLS** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:47 pm

Hey, can I play?

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:29 pm

Yes. Sure. Welcome come back.
Happy new year. Be here regularly in 2017

Take the spare#2 spot.

Updated. It's your turn now.

See. That's foresight. :up:

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:35 pm

The sequence is as below.
Raja
Ted
BoyCaught30
Misty
Verity
SuperGLS
GoingSouth
Leo
spare#1
Spare#2

SuperGLS. go ahead and pick.

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:26 pm

Verity still has to pick....

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:32 pm

louie_db9 wrote:I would like to join if any space still available.

Yes, glad to have you, the more the merrier.

I'm going to show the updated order in my next post.

louie_db9 wrote:By the way are you allowed to have current players who have played fewer than 50 Tests?

Yes. Although if you pick someone who goes over the limit before this game finishes - then they are eliminated. (And there is one prominent name who probably will).

BoyCaught30 wrote:Are we happy to have general draft discussions here too?!

Sure, why not, if we keep updateing the table every page it should be ok, hopefully.

raja wrote:It would be more fun if we kept out current players (maybe have a rule that the player should have played his last Test before 31-12-2014 or something like that) but since we didn't put this rule in before we started the draft, I guess we'll have to accommodate current players. *sigh*

I hadnt thought of that but at the same time some people will pick players from before the war when first class cricket was the pinnacle of cricket and tests were a novelty.

SuperGLS wrote:Hey, can I play?

SUPER CAME BACK!! I'll update the running order in my next post.

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:33 pm

This is the updated running order...

Raja
Ted
BoyCaught30
Misty
Verity
Louie_db9
GoingSouth
SuperGLS
Leo

Verity's go.

Verity · Postby **Verity** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:12 pm

My turn, very good, give me a minute I didn't even notice we'd started.

Verity · Postby **Verity** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:30 pm

CLYDE WALCOTT

44 Matches, 3798 runs @ 56.68 including 15 hundreds and 14 fifties

Excellent batsmen and also a wicketkeeping option.

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Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:36 am

Good pick. And Everton weekes is a good shout too

raja · Postby **raja** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:10 am

Weekes and Walcott were expected early first-round picks.
Roberts is a high-quality quick but went much quicker than I expected.
As did Glenn Turner.
I guess it has to do with strategy.
Ted probably wanted to go for a quality quick first, and Boycs30 wanted an opener first (since these are usually in short supply).
Middle-order batsmen tend to be more in number.
Having said that, Weekes and Walcott are right up there, so leaving them for the second round was never going to happen.

raja · Postby **raja** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:14 am

As for Syd Barnes, I picked him only because he is considered by many as the greatest Test bowler in history.
The Bradman of bowlers.

I feel I've already won the draft but I'll go through the motions and pick 10 other players. :-)

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:32 am

raja wrote:Weekes and Walcott were expected early first-round picks.
Roberts is a high-quality quick but went much quicker than I expected.
As did Glenn Turner.
I guess it has to do with strategy.
Ted probably wanted to go for a quality quick first, and Boycs30 wanted an opener first (since these are usually in short supply).
Middle-order batsmen tend to be more in number.
Having said that, Weekes and Walcott are right up there, so leaving them for the second round was never going to happen.

I struggle with openers in previous drafts so I was thinking of nabbing both mine early and then hunting for a spinner. Plus, opening batsmen are my favourite cricketers.

The 1930-1965 period I'm hoping will be rich pickings because of the amount of quality players and the fewer Tests played per year mean lots of options.

Middle order be dammed.

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:34 am

Plus you know I like to hunt out the less common choices

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:05 am

Whose turn is it now ?

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:01 pm

Yea, Louie's turn, he has 24 hours following Veritys go and then it's GS.

louie_db9 · Postby **louie_db9** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:30 pm

George Headley

Misty · Postby **Misty** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:49 pm

Good except one ,,,,,,,we'll forget it

Misty · Postby **Misty** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:50 pm

Going south next

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:18 pm

louie_db9 wrote:George Headley

Dammit

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:19 pm

Okay I've still got my other opener to pick and I like my choice.

Just been reading the amusing 2013 worst odi team draft that ted linked to at the start of this thread

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:58 pm

Sir Andy Roberts

47 tests, 202 wickets, 8/11/2 for 4w/5w/10w hauls. :up:

Can someone please update table please ?

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:26 pm

GS is playing his joker card early!

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:28 pm

You think Andy Roberts is a joker ?
Wah.
Can't wait to see who you would pick

ROFL

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:40 pm

Going South wrote:You think Andy Roberts is a joker ?
Wah.
Can't wait to see who you would pick

ROFL

lol Andy Roberts has already been picked. You can pick him too using your joker card if you like but you only get one joker card.

So I'm gonna bet you just didn't notice

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:49 pm

Ahhhhhh
That's why I asked table I can't see list from cellphone

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:51 pm

Ok.

I go with the best CURRENT #1 test bowler under 50 tests
R Ashwin

Boycs · Postby **Boycs** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:18 pm

Going South wrote:Ahhhhhh
That's why I asked table I can't see list from cellphone

That's fair. I struggle a bit when using my phone too.

Ashwin is a good shout.

I'm researching so many good historical players and being surprised that so many played less than fifty tests.

I can't believe Andy Roberts didn't play 70-odd matches.

Going South · Postby **Going South** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:58 pm

Yes. Nothing great about Andy Roberts.

TedWard · Postby **TedWard** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:23 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:
Going South wrote:You think Andy Roberts is a joker ?
Wah.
Can't wait to see who you would pick

ROFL

lol Andy Roberts has already been picked. You can pick him too using your joker card if you like but you only get one joker card.

So I'm gonna bet you just didn't notice

We're not going with the joker card thing - I know I talked about it earlier - but yea, I went off the idea.