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Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:26 am

I was watching some highlights of Vaughan's centuries in the '03 and '05 Ashes, struck by the realisation that his career is almost moving into the era of 'classic cricket' given that much of it was over 12 years ago now - which in itself gave me pause! - but I was also struck by the fact that his batting when on form and in full flow was actually quite something to watch. I would imagine that the most enjoyable highlights package of England batsmen from 2000 to 2010 probably comprises of Vaughan and Ian Bell when they're both on form striking centuries.



Opening the innings at the SCG, swivel-pulling a six when England are on 9/0. The cover drive at 00:52 in the video is simply glorious.



His hundred at Old Trafford in 2005 doesn't seem quite so juicy-fluent but a six at 04:59 is just delicious.



Even in 2007 when he was near enough at the end of his ability, the first four boundaries of this video are effortless, timed shots. That straight drive is brilliant. Admittedly the bowling attack is shite.

I rate him quite highly as a batsman. I believe he was No. 1. in the world in 2002/03. His statistics I think represent a man who gave a lot of his attention to the captaincy, a bit like Strauss. Admittedly Strauss ended his career with 50 games as captain and 50 not, and similar averages of 40/41 for each - but lest we forget he came into the 2005 Ashes averaging over 50 and scored 2 centuries in that series. Vaughan only managed to average 36 as Captain, and captained for 51 of his 82 Tests. When he wasn't captain between 1999 and 2003 over 31 matches he averaged over fifty.

Have just noticed that Strauss, bizarrely, averaged way more away than at home - 44 away to 39 at home!

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:48 am

Good knock vs better bowler
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:51 pm

Just watched some highlights from his century against SA - 156 in the first test. Another series of fantastic cover drives.

Makes me almost want to take to Twitter and lavish reminiscing praise on him like some weirdo

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:54 pm

The 2000s seems a bad time for England with some of their solid batsmen of the first half of the decade having their careers cut short. Vaughan by knee injury in 2006, Trescothick by stress in 2006, Hussein perhaps earlier than he could have done in 2004 albeit he recognised the talent fast approaching, Thorpe who could have played on I think though KP had emerged to steal the show.

Changing of the guard in 2004-2006.

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:57 pm

His twin hundreds at lords against the West Indies are fun to watch apart from him running out rob key

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Going South » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:10 pm

All hail Vaseline Vaughan. Take out Vaseline, he would be nobody.

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:51 pm

John Lever used Vaseline vs India on ball (cricket ball )
I have to ask raja, if he did tricks in India or England ?
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:53 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:Just watched some highlights from his century against SA - 156 in the first test. Another series of fantastic cover drives.

Makes me almost want to take to Twitter and lavish reminiscing praise on him like some weirdo



Ian Bell too produced some great innings in Ashes test, all greats had good one or two season
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:52 am

Bell always looked amazing when he batted, which I guess made it more frustrating when he got out for f**k all runs for the first half of his career

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:19 am

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Verity » Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:49 am

Very much under achieved
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby raja » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:18 am

Misty wrote:John Lever used Vaseline vs India on ball (cricket ball )
I have to ask raja, if he did tricks in India or England ?

That was in India in the 1976-77 series.

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby raja » Sat Jun 18, 2016 10:22 am

Michael Vaughan was a dangerous batsman for the opposition.
Used to get big hundreds.

He and Tresco together (right / left combo) - they were very good for England.

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Verity » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:52 am

raja wrote:Michael Vaughan was a dangerous batsman for the opposition.
Used to get big hundreds.

He and Tresco together (right / left combo) - they were very good for England.


He never done a thing in limited overs cricket and he's peak period was way too short, average of 40 in he's era is pretty bad for a number 3.
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:18 pm

I dunno, considering he was an English number 3.

But he was a test specialist. Strauss and cook were/are too. Only trescothick was able at both - one of our best ODI players.

I reckon him and bell might open in an Greatest England ODI XI. Or maybe Nick knight.

Trescothick
Bell
Root (c)
Pietersen
Bairstow (wk)
Collingwood
Flintoff
Swann
Broad
Gough
Anderson

I wanted to get Trott in there, I think he was a great ODI bat for England, but never mind.

Not too shite a team, eh?

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:16 pm

Former English well known player keep playing in county matches Average more than others, even after retirement, they continue playing FC cricket
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby raja » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:08 pm

Bell in an ODI side?
I'd pick Gooch anyday.
With the bats they have nowadays - and the fielding restrictions - Gooch would have a field day.

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby raja » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:10 pm

Would be good to find a place for Allan Lamb too.
Collingwood for 12th man, Lamb in the XI.

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:58 pm

I suppose it depends what era the XI would play in. I can't see Gooch doing the dilscoop

Go back further than the 80s and your good one day players were good just because they were good test players and the skill set wasn't much different

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:33 am

I wonder how Colingwood, Trescothick still playing and as effective as tom Curran and Horton
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:10 am

England A team in India 1995 m Vaughn was a team member but he was dropped for 3rd test because he scored 1/1/5/15 in first 2 test , eng.A won that series with the bowling of Chappel and M.m.patel

India found Rahul Dravid from that series.
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:18 am

BoyCaught30 wrote:I suppose it depends what era the XI would play in. I can't see Gooch doing the dilscoop

Go back further than the 80s and your good one day players were good just because they were good test players and the skill set wasn't much different

i think in 1990's mp vaughan had great tour with england A team VS aUSTRALIA a
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:50 am

From memory he made something like 37 on debut but out of a team total of about 120-odd, against South Africa I think.

He was proper class

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:35 pm

Debut at 37?
Miran Bax @ spinner debut at 49 for Pk.

Are you watching CPL?
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:28 am

He scored 37 runs on debut.....

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:03 pm

Who is Vaughan,?
Boycott the best
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:44 pm

This is true

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Going South » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:27 pm

Misty wrote:Who is Vaughan,?
Boycott the best

No you cannot boycott best player Mr Vaughan.
Go home and read text books.

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Misty » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:39 pm

I am at home, majority cricket Lovers know famous name Jeoff Boycott.probably MV played lot less test than boycott.
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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Going South » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:23 pm

Is boycott captain material ?
Then he does not belong to an elite group. Shooooo

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:48 am

Misty wrote:I am at home, majority cricket Lovers know famous name Jeoff Boycott.probably MV played lot less test than boycott.


It's Geoff not jeoff

And I think off the top of my head Vaughan played 87 tests to Boycotts 108

But no Boycotts personal demons made him a poor captain

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Re: Michael Vaughan

Postby Boycs » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:50 pm

He did however captain England for four Tests through the start of 1978. His first was in Karachi in January - Gattings debut - drawing with Pakistan, knocks of 31 and 56 as the teams batted along at around 1.7 runs per over. The match was pretty overshadowed by a row over Packer players in the Pakistan line-up who were withdrawn from the match in the end. Boycs took to the media afterwards to slate the pitch and Pakistan's defensive attitude, which Wisden seemed to agree with.

He then made 77 from 302 balls top scoring against New Zealand at the Basin Reserve and then 1 as England were ripped apart for 64 by Richard Hadlee. He scored about 10 runs an hour, but he took a lot of stick and was hit around the eye, and constantly got grit stuck in his contact lenses apparently. Then at Christchurch England took a 174-run win though he made only 8 and 26. Rather erroneously-prophetical, Wisden wrote "It became Botham's match, and, no matter how long he plays for England, he will find it hard to equal his spectacular all-round performance." He made another 54 at Eden Park in another draw. overshadowed by twin hundreds by Geoff Howarth.

One loss one win and two draws.


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