1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

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1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Kingsholmmad » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:33 pm

Well, Cook's captain again; bet that surprised you? Nah, nor me. Pleased to see Ben Stokes in there, though. Not sure who's going to miss out, though, if he's going to get a game. Jordan? Ali? What do you reckon?
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Going South » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:34 pm

who are the spinners?

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby SuperGLS » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:40 pm

Who needs spinners when you have the raw power and pace of Anderson and Broad?

If you guys want to get on the Cookie Monster bandwagon before he scores 500 runs this series, now is your chance.
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Going South » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:47 pm

so ECB going for 5 fast bowlers with no spinners? :shock:

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby SuperGLS » Thu Jul 03, 2014 1:54 pm

Didn't you see how well it worked against Sri Lanka? I mean, they almost won 1 test and almost didn't lose another!
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Going South » Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:33 pm

Squad Alastair Cook (capt), Sam Robson, Gary Ballance, Ian Bell, Joe Root, Moeen Ali, Matt Prior, Chris Jordan, Stuart Broad, Liam Plunkett, James Anderson, Ben Stokes, Chris Woakes

out of this announced 13, now who gets to play and who gets benched?

who are the passengers this time?

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Kingsholmmad » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:41 pm

Going South wrote:who are the passengers this time?


That's what I can't work out. If Ben Stokes is in the squad, it's probably because they want to use him. Woakes will probably be the drinks fag but there's going to be one other who's going to miss out, presumably from the middle order somewhere. I can't see them dropping Bell or Prior anytime soon, Jordan has been one of our best (and most consistant) players this spring and summer, Ali is pretty much our only spin option, I reckon it's gonna be Plunkett who gets the short straw.
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby GiantScrub » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:41 pm

Jordan and Woakes will sit this one out. Jordan didn't do enough against SL to warrant keeping his place.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby SuperGLS » Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:47 am

I'm happy the African has cemented his place.
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby raja » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:18 am

Hard to see Stokes get a chance to bat. For that to happen, BCCI need to dismiss Cook, Ballance, Bell and Root. Can't see that happening.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby raja » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:38 am

I read somewhere that these are expected to be batting wickets.
That is great news for BCCI.
Their batsmen might just manage to hold out for a draw.
Otherwise, if the wickets are even slightly bowler-friendly, BCCI are toast.

For all you know, BCCI might have insisted that the wickets be batting friendly.
There are playing conditions (for players) - and there are playing conditions (for Boards). :-)

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Kingsholmmad » Fri Jul 04, 2014 3:12 pm

Ooh, I love hearing that England are going to win. Even if it is only from people who reckon that it's not so much a case of us winning as them losing. No matter, the kind of match where both teams are competing to see who can lose the fastest tends to be entertaining, in a Keystone Cops sort of way.

Meanwhile, in other news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/28163403
Kp is sticking his oar in again. Apparently, he says he "would "love" the opportunity to play cricket for England again". With his current batting form, he should probably be in the Sunday league 2nd XI. So, how does he go about making himself more appealing to the selectors? By telling them that they're wrong to include Prior and they're wrong to omit Panesar. Has he completely lost his mind? Even if he's right, is that really the best way to make the selectors like you?
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Going South » Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:20 pm

Dont get your panties in knots over what raja says he is infamous for his anti england ways in not just cricket but all sports in general . Its his way of sarcastic jinx . More you read his posts more you get to know that twisted mind ;)

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby raja » Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:12 pm

I'm beginning to have a change of heart. :grin:

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby finger_power » Sat Jul 05, 2014 2:42 pm

Dhawan
Vijay
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Gambhir
Dhoni
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Kumar
Shami
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby SuperGLS » Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:26 pm

Looks a poor lineup. Outside Pujara and Kohli, who will score runs?

The awesome power and pace of Jimmy, Bambi, Stokes and Jordan will run through this line up. Good thing Sehwag is in England right now.
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Going South » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:35 pm

raja wrote:I'm beginning to have a change of heart. :grin:

Who do you hate most?

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby TedWard » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:53 pm

I still cant decide which team I am to support - I am open to arguments either way over the next few days.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby raja » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:14 pm

I should normally not be supporting BCCI.
But when England's batsmen Cook, Robson, Ballance, Bell, Root, Moeen Ali, Prior etc feast on BCCI's bowling, I know I will feel bad for the bowlers.
I rarely feel bad for BCCI batsmen, I always feel for the bowlers.

So I will be supporting BCCI in this series.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby TedWard » Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:32 pm

I think I will support the bowlers too (both teams). I mean they have it pretty bad, lifeless pitches and lifeless captains, going to take a lot of effort on their parts to get through it all.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby SuperGLS » Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:15 pm

TedWard wrote:I still cant decide which team I am to support - I am open to arguments either way over the next few days.


As long as you are supporting India by the time they arrive at the Oval I'm all good. Couldn't imagine sitting there listening to you talk about the glory days of Strauss, Cook and Trott.
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby bharathh » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:59 pm

Apparently the Dutch have never won a game that has gone to extra time (4 times). Bound to break that jinx today though.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby bharathh » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:01 pm

Don't know why Robben dives... he's such a superb player. Not sure why he needs to dive!

Messi is so much better than these diving divas in that way. Since I don't watch football much... anyone else that had a reputation for not diving?

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby bharathh » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:02 pm

Navas the Costa Rican keeper has been excellent so far.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby bharathh » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:03 pm

Lucky not to have a goal scored on that corner though. Bad keeping on that instance.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby GpeL » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:51 pm

O
India and England are scoring goals in the first test. Very interesting. Cook will score three goals.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby raja » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:22 pm

Indian batting is as famous for being formidable in the subcontinent as it is infamous for collapsing on green tracks abroad. Mahendra Singh Dhoni and his fellow batsmen though may not be challenged immediately by England in the first of five Tests as the Trent Bridge track is expected to assist both batsmen and bowlers equally.

According to a report in ESPNCricinfo, curator Steve Birks says he is looking to prepare a pitch that offers support to bowlers without being outrightly challenging to batsmen. "The grass is dry, and we have been pushing it in every day," he was quoted as saying ahead of the first Test starting July 9.

"We have been watering around the edges. We don't want teams bowled out for 180." ('There Will Be Questions in Dhoni Loses')
Admitting that having an impartial pitch is a challenge, Birks said that the team which performs well will eventually win regardless of conditions. ('It's Time to Write a Wrong')

"You can't try to keep too many people happy. Bowlers want one thing. Batsmen want one thing. If you can just do your best, it is up to them to perform." (Tendulkar and Dravid: An Unusual Coincidence)

Indian batsmen have traditionally struggled on on green tops and performance has been an issue. The last time India toured England - in 2011 - the visitors lost 4-0. The team is already eying revenge for the whitewash but bowlers in the side will have to step up as much as the batsmen. (Bowlers Key to Success in England: Rahul Dravid)

Newly-appointed batting consultant Rahul Dravid recently said that claiming 20 wickets would be a challenge for the Indian bowlers.
"I think the key is going to be the ability to take 20 wickets," said the former India batsman.
"If the Indians can pitch the ball up and swing it, I think they give themselves a chance," he added.

India haven't won a Test away from home since defeating the West Indies in June 2011 -- a run now stretching to 14 matches. Trent Bridge may just give the side the nudge it needs to erase this statistic.

England are currently smarting from consecutive Test series defeats at the hands of Australia and Sri Lanka. India have won three Test series in England - 1971, 1986 and 2007.

Incidentally, England won their last Test series against India when they beat the world champions in their own backyard in 2012.

http://sports.ndtv.com/england-vs-india ... ound-pitch

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Ankur » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:50 pm

India and england both are pretty ok batting side. Cook is the only proven world class test batsman between the 2 sides but he is out of form.

England have a very good bowling attack. India have a non existent bowling attack. On a decent pitch England hold an advantage.

The only way to even the equation is to present a helpful pitch to India. I think it would be incredibly stupid to prepare a green pitch.

Not only will make indian bowlers lethal, like it did in NZ and Bang, but will lift the wieght of having an incompetant bowling attack from usually dormant, safety first Dhoni captaincy with a result in sight.

Without a 180 pitch, both captains will be overjoyed at a 0-0 result

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Boycs » Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:58 pm

Flat pitches serve nobody. Any English success will be "down to the pitch" and no one will be able to dismiss the Indian line-up.

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby GiantScrub » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:42 am

Ankur wrote:India and england both are pretty ok batting side. Cook is the only proven world class test batsman between the 2 sides but he is out of form.


That's pretty harsh on the other guy in the English side with 100 test caps and 20 centuries, no?

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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby SuperGLS » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:46 am

Ankur has been a Bell hater for years.
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Re: 1st Test: England v India at Trent Bridge on July 9th

Postby Ankur » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:48 am

GiantScrub wrote:
Ankur wrote:India and england both are pretty ok batting side. Cook is the only proven world class test batsman between the 2 sides but he is out of form.


That's pretty harsh on the other guy in the English side with 100 test caps and 20 centuries, no?


May be, but not in the same category.

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