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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:31 pm

A lot of the pics so far are players that I was considering (except for Syd Barnes) - I dont know that says about all your pics.

I need to read up on Syd Barnes - I am highly sceptical that he can still be considered all that good - werent they still bowling underarm when he was playing?

I somehow thought Ashwin might possibly make it back to my next pick.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:32 pm

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th
Raja Syd Barnes 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
Ted Andy Roberts.. 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
BoyCaught30.. Glenn Turner 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
Misty Everton Weekes 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
Verity Clyde Walcott 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
Louie_db9 George Headley Vernon Philander 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
GoingSouth R Ashwin John Snow 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
Super Graeme Pollock Alan Davidson. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11
Leo A D Nourse G A Lohmann 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11


New people can still be included - just show your interest in this thread.

Players picked.

Syd Barnes, Andy Roberts, Glenn Turner, Everton Weekes, Clyde Walcott, George Headley, R Ashwin, Graeme Pollock, A D Nourse, G A Lohmann, Alan Davidson, John Snow, Vernon Philander
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:35 pm

I've added (what I hope is) a mobile friendly list to the table above.

SUPERS TURN NOW THEN LEO GETS TWO PICKS!

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:56 pm

Thank you ted.

Sooooooooooooperrrrrrrr.
Haul over your ass here !

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby SuperGLS » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:06 am

Yes sir.

Graeme Pollock. Finally a good draft in which to select Pollock.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Leo » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:59 am

Arthur Dudley Nourse (South Africa)
George Alfred Lohmann (England)
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:16 am

Am not surprised that some have not heard of Syd Barnes of England.
Not to be confused with Sid Barnes, Aussie opener in the 1930s.

Syd Barnes deserves to be much better-known.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:17 am

Good picks so far.
Trashwin, Pollock, Dudley Nourse and Lohmann are all good picks.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:18 am

Super, your turn.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:30 am

Misty wrote:
raja wrote:Good picks so far.
Trashwin, Pollock, Dudley Nourse and Lohmann are all good picks.

Trashwin?


Ashwin

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:05 am

TedWard wrote:A lot of the pics so far are players that I was considering (except for Syd Barnes) - I dont know that says about all your pics.

I need to read up on Syd Barnes - I am highly sceptical that he can still be considered all that good - werent they still bowling underarm when he was playing?

I somehow thought Ashwin might possibly make it back to my next pick.


Over arm but with his profile talking about him imparting spin on the ball as well as swing so I can't image it would be massively fast

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2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:12 am

BoyCaught30 wrote:
Misty wrote:Trashwin?


Ashwin

rajaesh,
please sort out how many wickets Barnes or whatever your selection is, take in 8 ball overs? because ****** and some others were outstanding because of 8 ball over in the past than sometime later its changed to 6 ball per over.

50 overs of 8 ball =400 ball
50 overs of 6 ball =300 ball
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above he get more chance to reach highest number of wickets in 100 ball.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:15 am

Names of unpicked, but otherwise eligible players, not to be mentioned.
Misty, I've had to edit your post above for this reason.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:22 pm

Dear Misty, Just play and let other to play as well. Don't spam please.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby SuperGLS » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:27 pm

Alan Davidson.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:55 pm

Misty wrote:
raja wrote:Names of unpicked, but otherwise eligible players, not to be mentioned.
Misty, I've had to edit your post above for this reason.

Give RESPECT to R.Ashwin.


You take my posts too seriously. :-)

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:56 pm

SuperGLS wrote:Alan Davidson.

Very good pick.

Over to you, GS.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:35 pm

Another I hadn't heard of.

I've found a good spinner who I'm shocked played less than fifty who I'm going to choose next

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:52 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:Another I hadn't heard of.

I've found a good spinner who I'm shocked played less than fifty who I'm going to choose next

I know him, his last name starts with M

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:02 pm

Misty wrote:
BoyCaught30 wrote:Another I hadn't heard of.

I've found a good spinner who I'm shocked played less than fifty who I'm going to choose next

I know him, his last name starts with M


Nope! I wonder who you're thinking of

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:18 pm

(Test caps as taken from cricinfos statguru at end of voting stages)


Misty, the way I read that suggests that smith would not be eligible as by the time this draft finishes smith would have played 51 tests.

I'm sure ted will correct me if I'm wrong

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:26 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:Another I hadn't heard of.

I've found a good spinner who I'm shocked played less than fifty who I'm going to choose next


You'd not heard of Alan Davidson? :o

You've heard of the Tied Test at Brisbane, 1960-61, right?

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Postby Going South » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:35 pm

My next pick is current most famous TV icon around the world, the lead actor of GAME OF THRONES

49 tests,202 wickets. 8 5w hauls one 10w haul.

He is one of the all time BEST 60s era bowler in those infamous ENGLISH CONDITIONS ;)

For eight years from the mid-1960s This bowler was, by some margin, England's best fast bowler. He was strong-willed and difficult, and, being subject to the whims of English panels of selectors, he won only 49 Test caps. Even more absurdly, he went on only three tours.
English politics meh. He was dropped twice in unusual circumstances: by Sussex for "not trying", witch hunt indeed.

His superior artistic flair was manifest in two published books of poetry, and in retirement he unexpectedly set up a successful travel agency. For England he reached his peak in West Indies and Australia, where his whopping 31 Test wickets in 1970-71. Whoa !!!

In rhythm, accuracy, pace and possession of a vicious bouncer, he had much in common with Glenn McGrath of Australia as a spearhead. But in one respect they widely differed: Snow never needed to resort to sledging to make a batsman feel uncomfortable. His air of menace said it all.

A true gentleman of cricket Mr John Snow

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:47 pm

raja wrote:
BoyCaught30 wrote:Another I hadn't heard of.

I've found a good spinner who I'm shocked played less than fifty who I'm going to choose next


You'd not heard of Alan Davidson? :o

You've heard of the Tied Test at Brisbane, 1960-61, right?


Yes

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:42 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:
(Test caps as taken from cricinfos statguru at end of voting stages)


Misty, the way I read that suggests that smith would not be eligible as by the time this draft finishes smith would have played 51 tests.

I'm sure ted will correct me if I'm wrong


Yep, thats what I meant.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby louie_db9 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:47 pm

It's my turn right? If so, I'm going for what will be considered a bit of a left-field choice, Vernon Philander. Phenomenal Test bowling average of 21.59, and so can only imagine what he may have done on the uncovered pitches of yesteryear which a lot of the bowlers with better averages would have bowled on. Batting average slightly higher than his bowling average too which is always a nice bonus.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:38 pm

How many test matches played & wickets taken in career? Please provide stats also for clarity. Thanks.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:47 pm

38 tests 148 wickets at 22-odd

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:09 am

Am beginning to think we should have probably limited this to past players. :-)

Not that the current players are bad, but the draft becomes a lot less fun if we pick current players.

The fun for me was in picking past players, who, for whatever reason, played less than 50 Tests.

Current guys, Ashwin or Philander, are almost certainly going to end up with > 50 Tests, so if we'd had this draft at the end of their careers, they wouldn't be eligible. So, except for the time-of-draft, they're in the same league as a 50+ player.

I'd request Ted to reconsider the rules, even if we're into the 2nd round now. I foresee a LOT of current players being picked - so better change rules now, than allow this to continue.

The 2 players picked so far can easily be substituted. Let's not allow this to continue.

Maybe set a rule, player should have officially retired, or should not have played for his country for the last 5 years.

It's Ted's call, I can only request.

For me, it's about the fun in picking, not who wins or loses the draft.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:12 am

Why always past player drafts?
I say we should have a draft with just currently playing test player draft.

It's so boring to see same old names again and again and again and again.

A concession would be pick only players that debuted after 1990.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:17 am

Going South wrote:Why always past player drafts?
I say we should have a draft with just currently playing test player draft.

It's so boring to see same old names again and again and again and again.

A concession would be pick only players that debuted after 1990.


Fair enough. Let's make that the next draft then. :-)

For this one, let's not dilute the fun by allowing current players.

Btw, you realise that your selection criterion of 1990 excludes golden boy, Sachin, right? :-)

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2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:28 am

raja wrote:
Going South wrote:Why always past player drafts?
I say we should have a draft with just currently playing test player draft.

It's so boring to see same old names again and again and again and again.

A concession would be pick only players that debuted after 1990.


Fair enough. Let's make that the next draft then. :-)

For this one, let's not dilute the fun by allowing current players.

Btw, you realise that your selection criterion of 1990 excludes golden boy, Sachin, right? :-)

Why not sachin?
Is it because he is born Indian that you hate him that much ?

Had sachin born in Pakistan he would be a cricket god for you too? OMG. hate has no boundaries.

Last checked sachin is indeed the BEST EVER BATSMAN ever played the game of cricket. Duh !

A rule is a rule. One should not make it up to fit it one way or other ALL THE TIME.

some people live in the past.
Some live in future.
Some live in current time taking life as it comes a day at a time.
To each their own.
If your view does not fit with others so be it and respect others no matter what.
If you act like MY WAY IS HIGHWAY that's most illogical & prejudiced thing to do.
Age does not automatically mean maturity at times. ;)

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby afghankhan » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:33 am

Good to see you guys having fun.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Leo » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:15 am

^^ Why don't you join with us?

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:28 am

Hi AK, how have you been? It's been a while. Hope all ok.

If you want to join, let Ted know - he is running the game and has to decide.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:32 am

GS, I wasn't the one who proposed a cut-off of 1990, and thus, ensured Sachin's exclusion. :-)
If we have a draft starting with 1989 (thus making him eligible), I've no problem with it.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:43 am

STEVE SMITH

50 Matches, 4693 runs @ 60 including 17 hundreds and 19 fifties

Good all round cricketer, excellent fieldsmen and can bowl some right arm pies but I wouldn't let him captain my under 12s team I coach, truly awful captain.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:10 am

The view on Smith (as stated before) is he will be eliminated IF he reaches 51 tests before this game concludes..... (You may want to change your pick).

Regards Rajas thoughts my view is we have done players from the past before. The 50 game limit just rules out the legends - no one can pick current players like abdv, kohli or root etc so the rules stay as they are.

New players (like AK) can join up to the end of the second round if they wish.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:13 am

TedWard wrote:The view on Smith (as stated before) is he will be eliminated IF he reaches 51 tests before this game concludes..... (You may want to change your pick).

Regards Rajas thoughts my view is we have done players from the past before. The 50 game limit just rules out the legends - no one can pick current players like abdv, kohli or root etc so the rules stay as they are.

New players (like AK) can join up to the end of the second round if they wish.


Yea sorry I haven't read a single post in this thread, want me to change? Indias not for a few months anyhow :lol:

IMO if you were going to pull that twist Philander should be banned as well because every retard and there dog knows he'll play more then 50, in fact every current player should be.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:15 am

As you say it's a gamble, next tests not for a while and this draft is going quickly so far. Note by conclusion I meant voting wrapped up and everything. It's up to you.

Going South wrote:If you act like MY WAY IS HIGHWAY that's most illogical & prejudiced thing to do.


By pure coincidence "life is a highway" was playing on the radio the moment I read that sentence.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:29 am

I'm keeping him, this will be well and truly over by India and its bullshit anyhow, Ashwin for example will easily play 50+
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:42 pm

Hurry up Misty, I want to make my pick :D

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:02 pm

Let's put a deadline on 50 test rule.
By march 1st 2017 the player should not play 50 test rule.
2 months is enough time for this draft.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby afghankhan » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:41 pm

Hi hi not gonna miss a chance to take part in a draft on cricforum. I am in:D
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:44 pm

Okayed

Clarrie Grimmett

37 Test: 216 test wickets @ 24.21 , Econ 2.16
Leg break GooglY

4 wickets haul 7 times
5 wickets haul 21 times
10 wickets haul 7 times

37 test with 67 innings bowling
He was born in NZ but played for Australia

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:02 pm

Going South wrote:Let's put a deadline on 50 test rule.
By march 1st 2017 the player should not play 50 test rule.
2 months is enough time for this draft.


I think it's over 50. So by March 1st 2017 player should have no more than 50 caps.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:02 pm

Misty wrote:Okayed

Clarrie Grimmett

37 Test: 216 test wickets @ 24.21 , Econ 2.16
Leg break GooglY

4 wickets haul 7 times
5 wickets haul 21 times
10 wickets haul 7 times

37 test with 67 innings bowling
He was born in NZ but played for Australia

He took over 1400 wickets in FC with best of 10 for 37 by an innings in FC cricket.
He died at the age of 88 in 1980 in Adelaide.Australia.


Nice choice.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:03 pm

afghankhan wrote:Hi hi not gonna miss a chance to take part in a draft on cricforum. I am in:D


You can go inbetween SG/boycaught and me.

Only one pick at a time, you can make your first round pick at the end of the game. I think that's the rules we used in the previous drafts.

Although if people can think of a better way let me know.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:09 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:
Misty wrote:Okayed

Clarrie Grimmett

37 Test: 216 test wickets @ 24.21 , Econ 2.16
Leg break GooglY

4 wickets haul 7 times
5 wickets haul 21 times
10 wickets haul 7 times

37 test with 67 innings bowling
He was born in NZ but played for Australia

He took over 1400 wickets in FC with best of 10 for 37 by an innings.
He died at the age of 88 in 1980 in Adelaide.Australia.


Nice choice.

Yes , Thanks Buddy,
I wants raja to see because he is kind of old timer

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:17 pm

Good one, Misty!

I knew Grimmett would go this round.

There are a lot of great yesteryear players out there, who didn't get to play 50 Tests.