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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:32 pm

Boycs30, I have had to bleep the name of the player you mentioned in the above post.
He is technically still available. :-)

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2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:48 pm

Every draft has its own limits hence no draft gets repeated on same player list.

PS: Our next draft won't be on test cricket. It would be on T20 or ODI.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:08 pm

raja wrote:Boycs30, I have had to bleep the name of the player you mentioned in the above post.
He is technically still available. :-)


Oh yes whoops! Sorry!

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:31 pm

Going South wrote:Every draft has its own limits hence no draft gets repeated on same player list.

PS: Our next draft won't be on test cricket. It would be on T20 or ODI.
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Or women's cricket?

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:39 pm

Super, your turn.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:08 pm

I shall enjoy dissecting these teams come the end. A few choices I'd wish I'd made, and some I'd intended to make but other made them first.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby SuperGLS » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:09 pm

Mominul Haque
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:56 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:
Going South wrote:Every draft has its own limits hence no draft gets repeated on same player list.

PS: Our next draft won't be on test cricket. It would be on T20 or ODI.
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Or women's cricket?

Do we have 100 players? We need photos too.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:10 pm

Darren Bravo
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49 test caps, 3400 runs, highest=218 average=40.00 hundreds=8 fifties=16

Darren Bravo is a man for long innings, a man who seems to love to bat on and on. His first century arrived in Bangladesh, in his tenth Test, and he made it a big one, falling five short of a double. He scored two more in the series in India immediately after. After 12 Tests his run aggregate and average were identical to that of his uncle Lara's after 12. He might not be flamboyant like lara but he is a silent accumulator, 8 hundreds and 16 fifties with 3400 test runs are the proof. Ideal for late rounds of this draft.

Yes, I pick him based on his stats alone. a reliable run machine with lots of experience having played all around the world. He got some really impressive stats for someone under 50 test caps.


PS: Don't mistake him for other bravo Dwayne, who is a T20 assassin.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:15 pm

My team so far.

1. Warren Bardsley [opener]
2. Tamim Iqbal [opener]
3. Lindsay Hassett [1 down batsman]
4. Maurice Leyland [2 down batsman]
5. Darren Bravo [3 down batsman]
6. R Ashwin [all rounder....YES]
7. Kiran More(wicket keeper)
8. Saqlain Mushtaq [spinner]
9. John Snow [fast bowler]
10.Terry Alderman [fast military medium]
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:41 pm

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th
Raja Syd Barnes Victor Trumper Vijay Merchant Aubrey Faulkner Ryan Harris Ian Bishop Monty Noble Charles Macartney Bill Edrich 10 11
Ted Andy Roberts Stuart MacGill Les Ames (wk) Arthur Morris Mitchell Starc Colin Miller Keith Stackpole Brad Hodge Stuart Law 10 11
Afghankhan Barry Richards Shoaib Akhtar Bill O'Reilly Mike Procter Ben Stokes Vijay Hazare Clem Hill Ranji Bill Johnston 10 11
BoyCaught30 Glenn Turner Jim Laker Farokh Engineer (wk) Sid Barnes Fred Spofforth Fazal Mahmood Angus Fraser Murray Goodwin Warwick Armstrong 10 11
Misty Everton Weekes Clarrie Grimmett Vinoo Mankad Saeed Ajmal Trevor Goddard Conrad Hunte Charlie Turner John Waite (wk) Colin Bland 10 11
Verity Clyde Walcott(wk) Steve Smith Hedley Verity Bill Ponsford Andrew Symonds Wesley Hall Charlie Griffith Harold Larwood Greg Matthews 10 11
Louie_db9 George Headley Vernon Philander Johnny Briggs Colin Croft Stan McCabe Bruce Mitchell Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk) Bill Woodfull Jack Gregory 10 11
GoingSouth R Ashwin John Snow Kiran More(wk) Saqlain Mushtaq Maurice Leyland Lindsay Hassett Tamim Iqbal Warren Bardsley Terry Alderman Darren Bravo 11
Super Graeme Pollock Alan Davidson Quinton de Kock(wk) Frank Tyson Bob Cowper Kagiso Rabada Cheteshwar Pujara Colin Blythe Dennis Amiss Mominul Haque 11
Leo A D Nourse G A Lohmann Shane Bond Shakib Al Hasan Eddie Paynter BJ Watling (wk) Neil Adcock David Houghton Douglas Jardine Bruce Reid 11

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:41 pm

Louie_db9, your turn.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:32 pm

:lmao: Supers team is shit
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby louie_db9 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:02 pm

Sonny Ramadhin, West Indies

158 wickets in 43 Tests at an average of 28.98, 10 5 wicket hauls, 1 10 wicket match haul

Nice to have an offspinner to complement a slow left armer.

Cricinfo says: "After just two first-class matches, he was called up for the famous 1950 tour of England, where he baffled the batsmen with his ability to spin the ball both ways. He bowled right-arm offbreaks and legbreaks with no discernible change of action" and I think that subtlety and variation could be vital.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:28 pm

MARTIN DONNELLY

Martin Paterson Donnelly, who died on October 22, 1999, aged 82, left an indelible impression on cricket despite the brevity of his career. As a New Zealander at Oxford, he entranced cricket-followers in the immediate post-war years in a manner surpassed only by Compton. He proved that reality matched appearance with a magnificent double-century against England in the Lord's Test of 1949. C. B. Fry said he was as good a left-hander as any he had seen, including Clem Hill and Frank Woolley. Then Donnelly retired and became a businessman in Sydney.
For New Zealanders, his career was even more tantalising, since he played only 13 of his 131 first-class games in the country. None the less, he did enough in his seven Tests to raise the country's cricketing profile, and establish himself among the country's best-remembered sporting heroes. when he was elevated to the New Zealand Sports Hall of Fame in 1990, the citation read: They said he had everything as a Test batsman: style and grace; confidence and determination; success and modesty. The words they said encapsulate the sense of loss that surrounded Donnelly, despite his long life. His cricket was a victim of the war, the lowly cricketing status of his country at the time, and the game's financial circumstances.


http://m.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/co ... 36832.html

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Bill Ponsford - Opening Batsmen - Batting Avg 48.22
Steven Smith - Batsmen - Batting Avg 60.12
Clyde Walcott (wk) - Batsmen - Batting Avg 56.68
Martin Donnelly - Batsmen - Batting Avg 52.91
Andrew Symonds - Allrounder - Batting Avg 40.61
Greg Matthews - Allrounder - Batting Avg 41.08
Harold Larwood - Fast Bowler - Bowling Avg 28.35
Hedley Verity - SLAO Bowler - Bowling Avg 24.37
Wes Hall (1) - Fast Bowler - Bowling Avg 26.38
Charlie Griffith (2) - Fast Bowler - Bowling Avg 28.52
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:43 pm

De Kock, Pujara, Rabada, Haque... your've missed the point in this draft I'm afraid Super, same with selections like Darren Bravo..
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby afghankhan » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:23 pm

Verity wrote:De Kock, Pujara, Rabada, Haque... your've missed the point in this draft I'm afraid Super, same with selections like Darren Bravo..


What was the point of the draft?

Nowhere it was said don't select player who could potentially end up playing more then 50 tests.

You btw. selected Smith.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:32 pm

I wonder why he was not picks in current Draft till so close to the ends, who took more than 2700 wickets and scored 21000 runs with 5wickets haul 195 times,93 Fifties .14 times in a season for Sussex he took over 100 wickets.

In test matches he took (39 test) 155 wickets with his Fast bowling at 26.16 but his bowling average was 18.16 for his 2784 wickets.his test best score : 100 besides his 5 Fifties.(test)

Maurice Tate,was a member of 1924-25 M.C.C. team to Australia and on this tour he beat ***** record of 36 wickets in a Test series by taking 38. He bowled ***** out to gain his 37th success! Besides being a great bowler, Maurice was a hard-hitting batsman with a wealth of strokes. He scored 17,518 runs (average 24.19) for the county and took 2,223 wickets (average 16.34). For seven consecutive seasons he did the double and in 1929 he took over 100 wickets for the county alone and scored more than 1,000 runs in first-class cricket. In fact, with the exception of 1933 when a damaged foot kept him out of the last three matches (he had taken 99 wickets), he never failed to take over 100 wickets for Sussex.

In 1953 Alec Bedser beat Tate's Test record by taking 39 wickets in a series, and many times since I have been asked how I compare Bedser with Maurice. My answer is: `They are two very great bowlers.' Having said that, I still think that Maurice Tate just stands out as the superior bowler of the two, bearing in mind the strength of the Australian batting in the 1924-25 series. But it is a very close thing indeed and one must not forget that Bedser had to contend with Bradman between 1946 and 1948.

Tate played in 20 consecutive Test matches against Australia and represented England in a further 19 Tests against South Africa, India and the West Indies. In all he took 155 Test wickets -- a feat excelled only by A. V. Bedser and S. F. Barnes.

Tate was so consistently successful as a bowler that the quality of his batting is now often overlooked. Yet he was one of the best all-rounders of his generation. He scored 100 not out against South Africa in the Lord's Test in 1929. Eight times he completed the cricketers' double of 1,000 runs and 100 wickets in a season -- and in 1923, 1924 and 1925 his bag of wickets topped 200. Fourteen times he took over 100 wickets in a season.

As a batsman, his best season was 1927, when he scored 1,713 runs, including five centuries. In 1922 he was the best all-rounder in the country, taking 118 wickets and scoring only 22 short of his 1,000. In 1921 he shared with ***** a second wicket partnership of 385 against Northants -- a Sussex record.

*****: Tate was a very great cricketer indeed. He could make the ball swing away very late outside the off-stump, and even the best batsmen were often beaten by him. He could make the ball rear off the pitch like a snake striking. He was even more successful in Australia than in this country -- in fact, he ranks with S. F. Barnes as the most successful bowler England has ever sent there.

Sir Jack Hobbs: Maurice was one of the greatest bowlers of all time. It is difficult to find words to praise him sufficiently. I know from experience how difficult it was to lay against him
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:33 pm

Come on Boycaught30
Your turn

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:43 pm

Misty wrote:
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th
Raja Syd Barnes Victor Trumper Vijay Merchant Aubrey Faulkner Ryan Harris Ian Bishop Monty Noble Charles Macartney Bill Edrich 10 11
Ted Andy Roberts Stuart MacGill Les Ames (wk) Arthur Morris Mitchell Starc Colin Miller Keith Stackpole Brad Hodge Stuart Law 10 11
Afghankhan Barry Richards Shoaib Akhtar Bill O'Reilly Mike Procter Ben Stokes Vijay Hazare Clem Hill Ranji Bill Johnston Bill Brown 11
BoyCaught30 Glenn Turner Jim Laker Farokh Engineer (wk) Sid Barnes Fred Spofforth Fazal Mahmood Angus Fraser Murray Goodwin Warwick Armstrong Darren Lehmann 11
Misty Everton Weekes Clarrie Grimmett Vinoo Mankad Saeed Ajmal Trevor Goddard Conrad Hunte Charlie Turner John Waite (wk) Colin Bland Maurice Tate 11
Verity Clyde Walcott(wk) Steve Smith Hedley Verity Bill Ponsford Andrew Symonds Wesley Hall Charlie Griffith Harold Larwood Greg Matthews Martin Donnelly 11
Louie_db9 George Headley Vernon Philander Johnny Briggs Colin Croft Stan McCabe Bruce Mitchell Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk) Bill Woodfull Jack Gregory Sonny Ramadhin 11
GoingSouth R Ashwin John Snow Kiran More(wk) Saqlain Mushtaq Maurice Leyland Lindsay Hassett Tamim Iqbal Warren Bardsley Terry Alderman Dareen Bravo 11
Super Graeme Pollock Alan Davidson Quinton de Kock(wk) Frank Tyson Bob Cowper Kagiso Rabada Cheteshwar Pujara Colin Blythe Dennis Amiss Mominul Haq 11
Leo A D Nourse G A Lohmann Shane Bond Shakib Al Hasan Eddie Paynter BJ Watling (wk) Neil Adcock David Houghton Douglas Jardine Bruce Reid 11
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:48 pm

afghankhan wrote:
Verity wrote:De Kock, Pujara, Rabada, Haque... your've missed the point in this draft I'm afraid Super, same with selections like Darren Bravo..


What was the point of the draft?

Nowhere it was said don't select player who could potentially end up playing more then 50 tests.

You btw. selected Smith.


Smith will be a all time great, none of the other currents will be and I wanted all currents excluded but Im wasnt going to watch Smith go elsewhere.

The point? To select the best of the unlucky bunch, who didnt make 50 Tests but easily could have or should have, unlock a few hidden gems along the way. Players like Darren Bravo, Rabade etc does nothing for the draft, there not even good but theres no history to read up on, no life story, there only just starting out in the modern era.

Darren Bravo is averaging 40 on todays roads. I'd hate to see him batting on uncovered wickets with no helmet.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:07 pm

1. V.Mankad (opener)
2. Hunte (Opener)
3. A.Jones ( top batsman)
4 -Weekes (Top batsman)
5. C.Bland (batting average 49)
6. Goddard (all rounder)
7. J.Waite (wk)
8. -M.Tate (All rounder (fast bowler # 2)
9.- Ajmal ( spinner)
10.Turner ( fast bowler(Charlie))
11 Grimmet( spinner)

Overviews of my World Xl.:

I choose Indian allrounder Vinoo Mankad my captain but we can beat any team in the world as Mankad and Hunte my opener, NZ's Andrew Jones at number 3 .my number 5 Colin Bland can even bats at number 3 if require because he has healthy test average of 49.

I will not say much of Everton Weekes, he himself HEART of my team,He scored 4455 runs with healthy 58 plus Average,he is finest Fielder and took near 50 catches too,Amazing batsman he was through out of his illustrated career for westindies,Colin Bland is my finest Fielder who has reputation of saving 35 runs per innings.my number 6 will be Trevor Goddard yet another finest all rounder who can bats at any batting position

My number 7 wicketkeeper John Waite was very formidable player who can either bats at number 3 or lower down,he dismiss 141 as keeper and hits 19 scores of 50, I carefully selected Maurice Tate as my second fast bowler besides Killer bowler Charlie Turner my strike bowler,my first change bowler will be Goddard who can Bowl with Left hand Fast medium, I will needs him more for His second spell as well as second new ball in the innings,.he is vice captain of my team

Now It's a Trend as over seas team selects as many as 4 spinner to their tour to sub continent, We are ready, BRING THEM INN

Captain Mankad (162 Wickets)Ajmal (170 w) & Grimmett 216 off only 37 test ) my 3 spinners who can bowl on any surface and be successful with their knowledge and reputation as classy bowler.(I expects test series in Sub continent soon)

I least Expect with the bat from my last 3 but over -all, from 1-8 my team is the best selected Group of players, batting wise as well as bowling and Fielding wise.

My team member named Bland and Goddard or waite can bats any number from 1-5 so I can Reshuffle my team depends on Surface, Weather or Strenth/weakness of my opposition.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby afghankhan » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:38 pm

Verity wrote:
afghankhan wrote:
What was the point of the draft?

Nowhere it was said don't select player who could potentially end up playing more then 50 tests.

You btw. selected Smith.


Smith will be a all time great, none of the other currents will be and I wanted all currents excluded but Im wasnt going to watch Smith go elsewhere.

The point? To select the best of the unlucky bunch, who didnt make 50 Tests but easily could have or should have, unlock a few hidden gems along the way. Players like Darren Bravo, Rabade etc does nothing for the draft, there not even good but theres no history to read up on, no life story, there only just starting out in the modern era.

Darren Bravo is averaging 40 on todays roads. I'd hate to see him batting on uncovered wickets with no helmet.


You selected Smith. I am saying it again. If you really believed in what you said you could easily leave Smith Alone.

You are not in a position to criticize others. Smith will most certainly play more then 50 tests. Whereas other players that just started like Rabada, Kock etc. you never know what will happen. They could lose form or get injured. Mominul Haque played 20 tests and is 25 years old. Shakib debuted as 19 and and close to 30 years of age he has only played 45 tests. So Haque can easily end up playing less then 50 tests.
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Postby Going South » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:54 am

Verity wrote:De Kock, Pujara, Rabada, Haque... your've missed the point in this draft I'm afraid Super, same with selections like Darren Bravo..

Bravo?
You got a player with better stats than Bravo on 9th round? Symonds & Smith and you comment on bravo, pujara who are much better test batsmen?
I just looked at all your batsmen picks. Bravo got better test stats than all your batsmen. ROFL

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:01 am

Going South wrote:
Verity wrote:De Kock, Pujara, Rabada, Haque... your've missed the point in this draft I'm afraid Super, same with selections like Darren Bravo..

Bravo?
You got a player with better stats than Bravo on 9th round? Symonds & Smith and you comment on bravo, pujara who are much better test batsmen?
I just looked at all your batsmen picks. Bravo got better test stats than all your batsmen. ROFL


Thats why you always bomb out in last in these drafts because you go only on 'stats' every time and your team sucks in return.
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:23 am

Boycaught disappoint me, so far, probably he not sure whom to pick now because I picked Great MAURICE TATE

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Going South » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:25 am

Oh. Stats have a meaning.
Stats don't lie.
Forget the runs or wickets stats just confirm on experience if not anything else.

When you are looking at under 50 test match experience players 90 out of 100 times you would get a quality player when you pick a player with 40+ test match playing experience compared to a player under 20 test match experience.

Similarly when player has more than 150 wickets would be usually a more quality player than a player with just about 50 odd test wickets. Very rarely you get across a quality player with less wickets, unless they had a short career due to untimely death or other calamity that you can count in your fingers.

Very rarely you find a player that has bad stats but is good but very rarely you find a bad player with good stats.

So, common sense prevail if you pick a player with good stats compared to picking a player with potential with a big WHAT-IF guess based projection of saying that they MIGHT be good player HAD THEY PLAYED extended career GUESS-WORK but a player with PROVEN stats is always one step ahead of any such WISHFUL thinking.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:27 am

Going South wrote:
Verity wrote:De Kock, Pujara, Rabada, Haque... your've missed the point in this draft I'm afraid Super, same with selections like Darren Bravo..

Bravo?
You got a player with better stats than Bravo on 9th round? Symonds & Smith and you comment on bravo, pujara who are much better test batsmen?
I just looked at all your batsmen picks. Bravo got better test stats than all your batsmen. ROFL


I notice plenty of Pakistan as well as Newzeland batsman still no one selects but Darren,
Jee, he starts well but now he is nobody.

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Postby Going South » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:34 am

Even tendulkar is a nobody at the end of his career. Duh!
Bravo recently made a 100 over Pakistan @dubai couple of months back.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Misty » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:39 am

Yes he was dropped serval time, I think 3 time .

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:28 am

Going South wrote:Oh. Stats have a meaning.
Stats don't lie.
Forget the runs or wickets stats just confirm on experience if not anything else.

When you are looking at under 50 test match experience players 90 out of 100 times you would get a quality player when you pick a player with 40+ test match playing experience compared to a player under 20 test match experience.

Similarly when player has more than 150 wickets would be usually a more quality player than a player with just about 50 odd test wickets. Very rarely you get across a quality player with less wickets, unless they had a short career due to untimely death or other calamity that you can count in your fingers.

Very rarely you find a player that has bad stats but is good but very rarely you find a bad player with good stats.

So, common sense prevail if you pick a player with good stats compared to picking a player with potential with a big WHAT-IF guess based projection of saying that they MIGHT be good player HAD THEY PLAYED extended career GUESS-WORK but a player with PROVEN stats is always one step ahead of any such WISHFUL thinking.

--2 cents


So with all this knowledge why is it your team is always disliked at the end of drafts?
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:51 am

Nice presentation, Misty.
And a superbly balanced bowling attack, covering all bases.
Batting is ok, but could be better, I feel.
You can still boost it if you pick a REALLY good batsman in your last round - need not be an all-rounder, or even good at fielding.
Make sure he's a batting star (there are a few still available!).

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Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:02 am

Misty wrote:Boycaught disappoint me, so far, probably he not sure whom to pick now because I picked Great MAURICE TATE



Actually I've been at work.....

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Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:04 am

Right, to the rest of you my apologies I didn't finish work until four in the morning. I shall just log on to my PC and I'll be right with you

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:28 am

With 27 Test matches, five centuries and 10 fifties with a batting average of 44.95, this player couldn't break into a top Australian side more due to the crop of stellar batsmen playing at the time. So instead he went and carved up domestic attacks with a mixture of sumptuous strokes and gumption. A firm Yorkshire favourite with a FC average of 57.83 and 82 FC hundreds and a best of 339, batting at number five where he maed the most of his runs, my choice is the Australian Darren Lehmann

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5. Darren Lehmann
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8. Jim Laker
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Postby Verity » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:38 am

Lehmann had all the potential in the world but was fat and lazy and didnt fulfil it. I rate him extremely high, biggest waste of a talent ever IMO.
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Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:50 am

I've seen some of his innings on YouTube etc they look very pleasing on the eye

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Postby Going South » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:17 am

Verity wrote:
Going South wrote:Oh. Stats have a meaning.
Stats don't lie.
Forget the runs or wickets stats just confirm on experience if not anything else.

When you are looking at under 50 test match experience players 90 out of 100 times you would get a quality player when you pick a player with 40+ test match playing experience compared to a player under 20 test match experience.

Similarly when player has more than 150 wickets would be usually a more quality player than a player with just about 50 odd test wickets. Very rarely you get across a quality player with less wickets, unless they had a short career due to untimely death or other calamity that you can count in your fingers.

Very rarely you find a player that has bad stats but is good but very rarely you find a bad player with good stats.

So, common sense prevail if you pick a player with good stats compared to picking a player with potential with a big WHAT-IF guess based projection of saying that they MIGHT be good player HAD THEY PLAYED extended career GUESS-WORK but a player with PROVEN stats is always one step ahead of any such WISHFUL thinking.

--2 cents


So with all this knowledge why is it your team is always disliked at the end of drafts?

Says who? You? ROFL.
CHILL. it's a draft. There are 10 more teams other than yours thus you alone can't get all top players. Who has the better team is an individual perception.

Th faster you realize that Anybody can find fault with anybody's team, the better.

PS: IMO my team is most skilled/experienced INTERNATIONAL team than any other team, but it's just my opinion, I don't care about what others think, I am here just to have fun. :up:

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Verity » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:59 am

Ok I'll stop.

But look back at the other drafts your teams are always hated / rediculed.
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Postby Going South » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:32 pm

I care less. I got a lot of draft haters as I always view that T20 skills are far superior than test skills & any T20 player can make a fine test player but a test player can never be a good T20 player hence unpopular in this forum. I blame raja as he pick on me for fun with no malice as he hates T20 & BCCI but it seems others take his words too seriously. Meh.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:46 pm

I like you, GS :P

There's only one person here who I find annoying!

But I'm looking forward to reviewing other teams as there's been some interesting picks this time around.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby afghankhan » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:23 pm

Bill Brown
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This is my third Bill.

He will open with Barry Richards.

WA (Bill) Brown was an outstanding opening batsman and excellent fieldsman for Australia on either side of the Second World War, his achievements perhaps overshadowed by his more lauded contemporaries. He averaged nearly 47 in Tests, and over fifty in first-class cricket, making 39 first-class hundreds. He would have undoubtedly played more Test cricket if it were not for the war. An unspectacular bat, he was a superb glancer, and deft placer of the ball. He had a full range of shots, however, and was hard to tie down.
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Postby Going South » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:45 pm

Lol@third bill.
Bill fetish indeed

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:46 pm

Good pick, AK.
I knew you needed an opener - I thought you'd pick a certain other opener. :-)

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:47 pm

Btw, can anyone tell me what some Indians might remember Bill Brown for?

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby raja » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:52 pm

Ted, your turn.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby afghankhan » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:39 pm

raja wrote:Btw, can anyone tell me what some Indians might remember Bill Brown for?


He was the first to be Mankaded
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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:07 pm

1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th
Raja Syd Barnes Victor Trumper Vijay Merchant Aubrey Faulkner Ryan Harris Ian Bishop Monty Noble Charles Macartney Bill Edrich 10 11
Ted Andy Roberts Stuart MacGill Les Ames (wk) Arthur Morris Mitchell Starc Colin Miller Keith Stackpole Brad Hodge Stuart Law 10 11
Afghankhan Barry Richards Shoaib Akhtar Bill O'Reilly Mike Procter Ben Stokes Vijay Hazare Clem Hill Ranji Bill Johnston Bill Brown 11
BoyCaught30 Glenn Turner Jim Laker Farokh Engineer (wk) Sid Barnes Fred Spofforth Fazal Mahmood Angus Fraser Murray Goodwin Warwick Armstrong Darren Lehmann 11
Misty Everton Weekes Clarrie Grimmett Vinoo Mankad Saeed Ajmal Trevor Goddard Conrad Hunte Charlie Turner John Waite (wk) Colin Bland Maurice Tate 11
Verity Clyde Walcott(wk) Steve Smith Hedley Verity Bill Ponsford Andrew Symonds Wesley Hall Charlie Griffith Harold Larwood Greg Matthews Martin Donnelly 11
Louie_db9 George Headley Vernon Philander Johnny Briggs Colin Croft Stan McCabe Bruce Mitchell Sarfaraz Ahmed (wk) Bill Woodfull Jack Gregory Sonny Ramadhin 11
GoingSouth R Ashwin John Snow Kiran More(wk) Saqlain Mushtaq Maurice Leyland Lindsay Hassett Tamim Iqbal Warren Bardsley Terry Alderman Dareen Bravo 11
Super Graeme Pollock Alan Davidson Quinton de Kock(wk) Frank Tyson Bob Cowper Kagiso Rabada Cheteshwar Pujara Colin Blythe Dennis Amiss Mominul Haq 11
Leo A D Nourse G A Lohmann Shane Bond Shakib Al Hasan Eddie Paynter BJ Watling (wk) Neil Adcock David Houghton Douglas Jardine Bruce Reid 11

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:47 pm

I'm going with Tom Moody, was a legend for Worcestershire and Western Australia - only played a handful of tests for Australia - usually played out of position too.

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Re: 2017 TEST DRAFT (50 cap limit)

Postby TedWard » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:49 pm

I pm'd my final pick to AK