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Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Leo » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:47 pm

Let's guess who will be the next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking?

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Leo » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:51 pm

I dont think those 3 minnows will be no-1 even if England stays for 10-15 years. Probably they wont get enough test matches to play to be no-1. But you never know . . :)

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Ankur » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:39 pm

South Africa is playing Test matches in near future and so is Australia, so either of them 2 can be next no 1 early next year. England is playing in UAE later this year, first time they play a tests in non bouncy, non seaming wickets since their loss in West Indies, so that may narrow the gap. Last time England won a series in these conditions was 2001.

If India can recover from their recent loses and comeback and win Australian series, they have a outside chance of making it.

Ofcourse Saffers are the most deserving.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Asim » Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:23 pm

Thats a pretty big lead for the English just after one series.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby SuperGLS » Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:27 pm

I'll go out on a limb and say Australia. A few series wins in a row and not having to play England for a while should be helpful.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:17 pm

Ankur wrote:South Africa is playing Test matches in near future and so is Australia, so either of them 2 can be next no 1 early next year. England is playing in UAE later this year, first time they play a tests in non bouncy, non seaming wickets since their loss in West Indies, so that may narrow the gap. Last time England won a series in these conditions was 2001.

If India can recover from their recent loses and comeback and win Australian series, they have a outside chance of making it.

Ofcourse Saffers are the most deserving.


They won in those conditions in 2009/2010.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Going South » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:20 pm

Asim wrote:Thats a pretty big lead for the English just after one series.
Yep, the ranking system is weird. If win over a team ranked higher than you, you get more points (bonus) compared to when you win over a team ranked lower than you. No wonder afridi is soooo pissed off after windies test tour as even after well fought win he came to know on no changes in their rank and very few points to show.

I am sure they now would change the rules as now the English reached the top spot and as with everything else now is the time to change the rules as it would help them prolong the ranking position. Watchout for that announcement coming soon!

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Ankur » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:49 pm

cricketlover wrote:
Ankur wrote:South Africa is playing Test matches in near future and so is Australia, so either of them 2 can be next no 1 early next year. England is playing in UAE later this year, first time they play a tests in non bouncy, non seaming wickets since their loss in West Indies, so that may narrow the gap. Last time England won a series in these conditions was 2001.

If India can recover from their recent loses and comeback and win Australian series, they have a outside chance of making it.

Ofcourse Saffers are the most deserving.


They won in those conditions in 2009/2010.


Against Who?

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:04 pm

Bangladesh.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Asim » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:25 pm

:lol: That made me giggle.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Leo » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:37 pm

:grin:

Hey guys, please cast your vote. Otherwise that poll is useless. I thought people would just cast vote and wont discuss. But it is happening just opposite :P

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Leo » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:39 pm

cricketlover wrote:Bangladesh.


I think that's an excellent achivement for No-1 test Team of the World :lolup:

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby TedWard » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:17 pm

SuperGLS wrote:I'll go out on a limb and say Australia. A few series wins in a row and not having to play England for a while should be helpful.




Yeaaaaaa!!!!!!

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Going South » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:22 pm

Meh. With the test team they have, no way I see Aussies go up, only way they go is downwards.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby threeslipsandagully » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:14 am

Going South wrote:Meh. With the test team they have, no way I see Aussies go up, only way they go is downwards.


Australia won't be no.1 anytime soon, thats for sure. Though they may welly occupy India's no. 3 spot early next year, leaving India at 4 (and falling ?) which would probably be a more accurate reflection anyway. They have still never taken a series against a good side away from home. The immense magnitude of their recent series loss gives a clue to the direction they are heading. Their best players due for retirement soon...

I doubt anyone will pip the Pom's for no.1 for some time. They took the the top spot with some force, if they thumped the Aussies, they made India look like your average b grade club side (but with far less fight). Even then, that might reflect poorly on many b grade club sides. The South Africans are probably capable of giving them a run, but are too inconsistent to stay at the top and strangely they seem to struggle at home. They will have their hands full with the Aussies soon.

As much as I hate to say it being brought up to consider all Pom cricketers as the enemy, they are not only top of the rankings but unlike India's little tenure, are very clearly the best team by some distance. I can see them dominating for some years.It's anyones guess who will be no.1 after them, but the players to do that haven't emerged yet, none of the present squads will do it.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Ankur » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:38 pm

Asim wrote::lol: That made me giggle.


Damn, how did I forget Bangladesh :lolup:

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Asim » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:27 pm

Australia for me Leo.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby raja » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:41 pm

I've just voted for South Africa.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby threeslipsandagully » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:14 pm

Ankur wrote:
Asim wrote::lol: That made me giggle.


Damn, how did I forget Bangladesh :lolup:


Who knows, they could already be on the way up. On present form they are one of the better teams from the subcontinent, surely. :D

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Going South » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:16 pm

Ouch! That's below the belt punch!

I hate them bragging rights! :evil:

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby 3rd_slip » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:54 pm

Asim wrote:Thats a pretty big lead for the English just after one series.


TBF, they did spank India like a porno set.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:57 pm

threeslipsandagully wrote:
Ankur wrote:
Damn, how did I forget Bangladesh :lolup:


Who knows, they could already be on the way up. On present form they are one of the better teams from the subcontinent, surely. :D


:lolup:

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby 3rd_slip » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:03 pm

Me think only SAF can really topple England.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby TedWard » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:08 pm

Meh, England are only number one due to fortunate timing (them being average whilst everyone else is poor) the no.1 ranking will flick between England and South Africa for a while - until Australia make it their own again.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:52 pm

Do you really think that Ted?

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Ankur » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:24 pm

TedWard wrote:Meh, England are only number one due to fortunate timing (them being average whilst everyone else is poor) the no.1 ranking will flick between England and South Africa for a while - until Australia make it their own again.



Same as India. I agree with you. But thats how it should be in a sport that only has 10 teams. There should never be a situation where the top team is light years away from others. Ofcourse the right way would be for each team to have competitive bowling and batting attacks.

England is no 1 today and will continue to be till they are defeated and others win consistently. No 2 ways about it.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby threeslipsandagully » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:14 am

In the vacuum left since the demise of the Aussies, the Pom's are the only team so far to look convincing in their place. They haven't just seized it, they stormed it.

A bigger problem is that I have trouble finding anyone in the squad to detest. As a group they even seem lik, li, l, l..... sorry can't bring myself to say it. Even Barbie (Broad) seems to have settled down. Where are the Boycott's, Botham's. Greig's, Gatting's etc? The people I liked to see fail because they appeared (to a biased Aussie) to be complete kn0bs. A sad state of affairs. Lift your game England, do something about it before the next Ashes. :D

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Babaganoush » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:21 am

Apart from Broad, there is no one to dislike. You have to make do with the obnoxious commentators for the time being :D

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Leo » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:24 am

Previous No-1 was capable to win in Sub Continent. Present No-1 is capable to do that??????????

I doubt.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby threeslipsandagully » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:57 am

Leo wrote:Previous No-1 was capable to win in Sub Continent. Present No-1 is capable to do that??????????

I doubt.


You mean the previous no.1 had better results in more familiar, favourable conditions. Most teams find that helpful (strangely, except for the South Africans :D ). The sub continent is only one place anyway, not necessarily the only thing used to gauge success. Ask Ricky, I'm sure he would agree :D .England have already thumped the (albeit, relatively weak) Aussies away from home. Going by their last series, India would be up against it even with home advantage. It's not just the win, it's the magnitude of the win. It's a bit like a claycourt tennis player getting beaten 6-0 6-0 6-0 on grass. Different conditions might help make it an actual contest, but the result still stands. This was like reigning boxing champion being floored 3 times in the fist round. Though, mercifully for boxers, they don't have to get back up and suffer a thrashing for the remaining rounds. It did appear that decisive.

Anyway, enough of the Pom fanboy stuff. Now that they are no.1 it's time to start supporting whoever they play. :D

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Leo » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:21 am

threeslipsandagully wrote:
Leo wrote:Previous No-1 was capable to win in Sub Continent. Present No-1 is capable to do that??????????

I doubt.


You mean the previous no.1 had better results in more familiar, favourable conditions. Most teams find that helpful (strangely, except for the South Africans :D ). The sub continent is only one place anyway, not necessarily the only thing used to gauge success. Ask Ricky, I'm sure he would agree :D .England have already thumped the (albeit, relatively weak) Aussies away from home. Going by their last series, India would be up against it even with home advantage. It's not just the win, it's the magnitude of the win. It's a bit like a claycourt tennis player getting beaten 6-0 6-0 6-0 on grass. Different conditions might help make it an actual contest, but the result still stands. This was like reigning boxing champion being floored 3 times in the fist round. Though, mercifully for boxers, they don't have to get back up and suffer a thrashing for the remaining rounds. It did appear that decisive.

Anyway, enough of the Pom fanboy stuff. Now that they are no.1 it's time to start supporting whoever they play. :D


I made a mistake. I forgot that previous no-1 was India. :oops:

In this case I was supposed to tell "When Australia was the No-1, they were capable to win in Sub Continent. Present No-1 is capable to do that??????????

I doubt.
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Very Sorry :silenced:

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Ankur » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:23 pm

Englad lost in West Indies. Their only away wins are in Australia, NZ and Bangladesh.

A little known fact is England's Test series played in England is considered an Away series to calculate the ranking.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby TedWard » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:51 pm

Leo wrote:
I made a mistake. I forgot that previous no-1 was India. :oops:

In this case I was supposed to tell "When Australia was the No-1, they were capable to win in Sub Continent. Present No-1 is capable to do that??????????

I doubt.
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Very Sorry :silenced:


Honest mistake to make - I read your original post and thought of Australia too. Completely forgot India were ever no.1 - thats how bad they played.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby threeslipsandagully » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:10 pm

Fair enough Leo. That makes sense.
To win a test series in India is not an easy thing to do. Still, I wouldn't underestimate them. The next 18 months or so will be interesting, England have a couple of difficult series next year.



Ankur wrote:Englad lost in West Indies. Their only away wins are in Australia, NZ and Bangladesh.

A little known fact is England's Test series played in England is considered an Away series to calculate the ranking.


Things have changed remarkably since they were skittled for 50 something against the Windies. I don't see that happening again any time soon. Though I remember it gave me quite a smile (and false Ashes hopes) at the time. :D
Seems strange this series would be considered an away series. Do you know the reason for that?

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:30 pm

Ankur was winding you up...

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Ankur » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:03 pm

threeslipsandagully wrote:Fair enough Leo. That makes sense.
To win a test series in India is not an easy thing to do. Still, I wouldn't underestimate them. The next 18 months or so will be interesting, England have a couple of difficult series next year.



Ankur wrote:Englad lost in West Indies. Their only away wins are in Australia, NZ and Bangladesh.

A little known fact is England's Test series played in England is considered an Away series to calculate the ranking.


Things have changed remarkably since they were skittled for 50 something against the Windies. I don't see that happening again any time soon. Though I remember it gave me quite a smile (and false Ashes hopes) at the time. :D
Seems strange this series would be considered an away series. Do you know the reason for that?



It was an away series, because, it was scheduled as one. Because of trouble staging any cricket in Pakistan, an alternate venue was chosen, that venue was England.

The Australia Pakistan series last year was a away series for Australia, home for Pakistan, but staged in England

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:02 pm

Thats not what you implied in your post or what people thought you meant. They thought you were refering to England.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Ankur » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:43 am

I was thinking what you were on, just realised I missed some words in there. Sorry about that.

It should have been

"A little known fact is England's Test series against Pakistan last summer played in England is considered an Away series to calculate the ranking."

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Babaganoush » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:02 am

3rd_slip wrote:
Asim wrote:Thats a pretty big lead for the English just after one series.


TBF, they did spank India like a porno set.


Great choice of words there. Should hold you in good stead in you career in Public Affairs.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby 3rd_slip » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:29 am

I dont use such phrases in the office.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby SuperGLS » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:58 am

Hahahaha.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:46 am

Ankur wrote:I was thinking what you were on, just realised I missed some words in there. Sorry about that.

It should have been

"A little known fact is England's Test series against Pakistan last summer played in England is considered an Away series to calculate the ranking."


That makes sense :up:

Its a sad state of affairs tbh.

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Asim » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:24 pm

3rd_slip wrote:I dont use such phrases in the office.


:D Bro, don't tell me you are a porn star. :P

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Going South » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:12 pm

Asim wrote:
3rd_slip wrote:I dont use such phrases in the office.


:D Bro, don't tell me you are a porn star. :P

:lmao: The industry is indeed a Public affairs business. :lol:

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby 3rd_slip » Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:50 pm

Sadly I am not. Am a willing nudist though. :D

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:09 pm

3rd_slip wrote:Sadly I am not. Am a willing nudist though. :D


Aren't we all :)

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Going South » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:36 pm

cricketlover wrote:
3rd_slip wrote:Sadly I am not. Am a willing nudist though. :D


Aren't we all :)


Dont say "we" there.
Cricketlover and 3rd_slip can get a room do all the nude parades they can do, BY THEMSELVES. :nana:

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby cricketlover » Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:36 pm

Stand to attention and all that!!

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Aila » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:59 am

Ankur wrote: England is playing in UAE later this year, first time they play a tests in non bouncy, non seaming wickets since their loss in West Indies, so that may narrow the gap. Last time England won a series in these conditions was 2001.

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hahaha you forgot the Ashes 2010-2011? :lolup:

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Re: Next No-1 in ICC Test Ranking

Postby Asim » Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:38 pm

Going South wrote:
cricketlover wrote:
Aren't we all :)


Dont say "we" there.
Cricketlover and 3rd_slip can get a room do all the nude parades they can do, BY THEMSELVES. :nana:


:lol: :popcorn: