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Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby raja » Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:36 am

Worth a read, for sure, whether you agree with it or not.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news ... 43327.html

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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Paddles » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:21 am

Link doesn't work - but test cricket isn't dying.

Aus, SA, NZ, WI and Eng suck in spin countries.

Aus, Ind, SL and Bang suck in seam/swing countries.

Aus like roads. Ind, SL and Bang like dustbowls. SA, Eng and NZ like swing and nibble.

Pak are still as unpredictable in swing/seam/spin as they ever have been (but they suck on roads).

SA likes roads.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Katto » Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:31 am

obsessed with this angle^

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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Paddles » Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:34 pm

Katto wrote:obsessed with this angle^

Obsessed with me^

It isn't your fault Katto. While some people have the benefit of wisdom or education that teaches them that the way to debate an argument is to deal with the facts and logic of an argument, primal nature from monkey's throwing poop at anyone they they disagree with or don't like the arguments of is to attack the person instead (via Ad Hominem).

I think you have the potential to evolve Katto, even if not granted the opportunity to. I think your potential exceeds a poop throwing monkey, even if that is where your ad hominem responses to arguments is still at today.

Though, I could be wrong, you could just be retarded.

Here's a hint, find a problem with the logic or facts (incl their selection), before finding personal reasons of bias for the alleged poor argument being presented as being "obsessed with this angle". That's how logical debate works. You don't get to just throw poop at the person presenting an argument you don't like. First and always you must deal with the actual argument. Then deal with the person if you think it necessary. And remember, consistent thought is not obsession, it is just consistent opinion.

Sorry if you find my reply harsh, I just cbf with being polite to illogical and fallacial views today.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Going South » Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:03 pm

test cricket is dead.

when was the last time 5 day match played for 5 days?

scrap 5 day test cricket and replace with 3 day test cricket.

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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Katto » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:18 pm

Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:obsessed with this angle^

Obsessed with me^

It isn't your fault Katto. While some people have the benefit of wisdom or education that teaches them that the way to debate an argument is to deal with the facts and logic of an argument, primal nature from monkey's throwing poop at anyone they they disagree with or don't like the arguments of is to attack the person instead (via Ad Hominem).

I think you have the potential to evolve Katto, even if not granted the opportunity to. I think your potential exceeds a poop throwing monkey, even if that is where your ad hominem responses to arguments is still at today.

Though, I could be wrong, you could just be retarded.

Here's a hint, find a problem with the logic or facts (incl their selection), before finding personal reasons of bias for the alleged poor argument being presented as being "obsessed with this angle". That's how logical debate works. You don't get to just throw poop at the person presenting an argument you don't like. First and always you must deal with the actual argument. Then deal with the person if you think it necessary. And remember, consistent thought is not obsession, it is just consistent opinion.

Sorry if you find my reply harsh, I just cbf with being polite to illogical and fallacial views today.


I just said you're obsessed I didn't insult you :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Paddles » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:18 pm

Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:Obsessed with me^

It isn't your fault Katto. While some people have the benefit of wisdom or education that teaches them that the way to debate an argument is to deal with the facts and logic of an argument, primal nature from monkey's throwing poop at anyone they they disagree with or don't like the arguments of is to attack the person instead (via Ad Hominem).

I think you have the potential to evolve Katto, even if not granted the opportunity to. I think your potential exceeds a poop throwing monkey, even if that is where your ad hominem responses to arguments is still at today.

Though, I could be wrong, you could just be retarded.

Here's a hint, find a problem with the logic or facts (incl their selection), before finding personal reasons of bias for the alleged poor argument being presented as being "obsessed with this angle". That's how logical debate works. You don't get to just throw poop at the person presenting an argument you don't like. First and always you must deal with the actual argument. Then deal with the person if you think it necessary. And remember, consistent thought is not obsession, it is just consistent opinion.

Sorry if you find my reply harsh, I just cbf with being polite to illogical and fallacial views today.


I just said you're obsessed I didn't insult you :lol: :lol: :lol:


I didn't once say that you did insult me.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby raja » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:10 am

The earlier link wasn't right.
This should work.

It's a pretty interesting piece - sees cricket from an economic perspective, talking about incentives. Please do read and comment.

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news ... 43327.html

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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Leo » Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:23 am

I think one more generation will be needed to die completely. Why someone will waste their time to play for 5 days when you can earn money by playing 20 overs only. Even players are going for early retirement from national team for playing in T20 franchises.

Why someone will go to watch a game for 5 days when you can have the same entertainment within 2 hours. All cricket stars are now expert of T20 level. I don't find any new talent who can bat to score a 400 runs innings or gets 8/9 wicket in an innings.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Going South » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:25 am

5 days???
hahahahahaha
test cricket is not played for 5 days anymore.

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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Verity » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:06 pm

Block Raja for sharing dodgy link.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby raja » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:16 am

Verity wrote:Block Raja for sharing dodgy link.

:grin:

Correct link now posted in opening post. :grin:

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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby afghankhan » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:57 pm

Test cricket will always be there. Non profit for the purists. It will be a small part of cricket in the future. T20 is already ruling.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Verity » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:52 pm

You reckon?

cricket is no where near what it was in the 90's / 2000's, worst thing that happened to cricket was T20's.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Paddles » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:36 am

Verity wrote:You reckon?

cricket is no where near what it was in the 90's / 2000's, worst thing that happened to cricket was T20's.


Nah. I love tests but I enjoy t20.

I love cricket. T20 odi and tests.

Cricket is cricket. Different challenges - but same skills.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Leo » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:13 am

Same Skill ! ! ! ! Not necessarily :)

However, now a days it depends on money. If Test cricket can generate money, it will survive. Otherwise not. ICC is trying to popularize with D/N test or pink ball. Hope it will work.
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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Paddles » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:14 am

Leo wrote:Same Skill ! ! ! ! Not necessarily :)

However, now a days it depends on money. If Test cricket can generate money, it will survive. Otherwise not. ICC is trying to popularize with D/N test or pink ball. Hope it will work.


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Re: Test cricket is dying but cricket is not

Postby Leo » Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:47 am

^^ Not must do, it's can do or able to do; which is called skill :)
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