Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

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Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Mick180461 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:57 pm

Under the new Laws of Cricket an Umpire can ban a Bowler for the rest of the Innings if he thinks he has deliberately bowled a No Ball.
While i completley agree that a Bowler should be banned this could open a huge can of worms. It would be a very game Umpire who would make this call. It will be purely an Umpires opinion and will lead to a major blowup on the field, how does an Umpire decide that the No Ball was deliberate?
Most cases of what appears to have been a delberate No Ball have seen the Bowler go over by 5 or 6 inches, what i would have preferred to see is a cut off point for No Balls, say 4 Inches(10cm) the bowler would get one warning, does it a 2nd time he's out of the attack.
And don't forget that 3 players went to Jail for deliberately bowling No Balls so we then get into legal territory and Umpires could be facing Civil suites.

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Re: Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Going South » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:14 pm

this is to discourage spot fix bowling. i welcome it.

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Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Going South » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:17 pm

if a batsman is coming forward 4-5 steps ahead and attempting hit the ball, and if the spinner bowls high & wide to keeper DELIBERATELY for a stumping would you give a noball?

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Re: Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Mick180461 » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:41 pm

Going South wrote:if a batsman is coming forward 4-5 steps ahead and attempting hit the ball, and if the spinner bowls high & wide to keeper DELIBERATELY for a stumping would you give a noball?

The Umpire can call that a wide and the batsman is out. But from what i have seen the Law is only in regards to a Front foot No Ball not to a high full toss.
You make a very good point GS should a deliberate high wide ball be called a no ball or a wide. Personally i think it should stay a wide as it always has been a genuine tactic to defeat a batsman who is comming down the track and we are talking about a ball that unless its head high and very wide should be quite hittable.

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Re: Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Going South » Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:11 pm

also it’s difficult to check whether a bowler intentionally over stepped for a noball or just an honest slip of mistake. you will never know.

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Re: Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:25 am

Going South wrote:also it’s difficult to check whether a bowler intentionally over stepped for a noball or just an honest slip of mistake. you will never know.

They are asking to much of the Umpire in this case, he has to decide if the bowler is doing it deliberately. Make it a set distance give the bowler 1 warning then ban him from the attack.
If the bowler is accidently overstepping the mark by 3-4 inches consistently than he has only got himself to blame.
I can see the situation where a bowler is banned from the attack and the next thing that Umpire is getting served a Civil Suite for accusing the Bowler of committing a Crime.
This will backfire big time on the ICC.

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Re: Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Boycs » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:46 am

Perhaps it's a law only created to give them something to fall back on if they ever need it in clear and unambiguous cases, rather than one intended for rigorous application.

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Re: Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Mick180461 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:10 am

Boycs wrote:Perhaps it's a law only created to give them something to fall back on if they ever need it in clear and unambiguous cases, rather than one intended for rigorous application.

Make a scapegoat of the Umpire in other words

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Re: Deliberately Bowling a No Ball

Postby Boycs » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:48 am

Maybe make the red cards actual criminal convictions :P