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Foreign players are irresponsible - sehwag

Postby Going South » Mon May 15, 2017 11:36 am

'Foreign players did not take responsibility' - Sehwag

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Virender Sehwag, Kings XI Punjab's director of cricket operations, was unimpressed by the performance of their overseas players in the knockout game against Rising Pune Supergiant on Sunday.

Kings XI careened to 32 for 5 in the Powerplay, with all four of Martin Guptill, Eoin Morgan, Shaun Marsh and the captain Glenn Maxwell having fallen. They were eventually bowled out for their lowest total in the IPL - 73 - and were knocked out of the tournament.

"I'm very disappointed," Sehwag said in the post-match press conference. "I can say that none of the foreign players took responsibility and at least played 12 to 15 overs. Their role was at least one of the top four should bat for 12 to 15 overs, but none of the batsmen took the responsibility.

"I think they were complaining that the wicket was a bit slow but when you play international cricket so much, you should get used to playing on difficult or good wickets. There are very rare occasions when you get a good wicket to bat on but whatever wicket you get, you have to play at least 20 overs for your side. But Maxwell, Shaun Marsh, Guptill and Morgan [were all disappointing]."

The procession began from the very first ball as Guptill smashed an on-the-up drive to short cover. Marsh popped a catch to mid-off in the fourth over. Morgan was run out for 4 and Maxwell fell for a duck.

"Guptill's role was to cash in during the Powerplay and [the other opener] Wriddhiman Saha's was to just bat around with him," Sehwag said. "So I don't mind him getting out on the first or second ball as long as he knows what he's doing. There's no point blaming him; I should rather blame the other batsmen.

"Even Marsh, his role was to play till 10-12 overs, but the way he got out was disappointing and then Maxwell and Morgan, these are the experienced players… I mean the players who got out had been informing the next batsman that it's a slow wicket and even then if you throw away wickets, it means that you're not up for the game."

Kings XI had picked Maxwell to lead them this season even though he did not have any experience leading a side in senior cricket. He managed 310 runs in 13 innings with an average of 31.00 and a top score of 47.

"We always knew that when Maxwell fires, then he can win the match on his own," Sehwag said. "But he didn't fire in eight or nine games. That is a big disappointment, especially since he's experienced, having played for Australia's Test and ODI teams. He didn't take the responsibility as a captain and didn't perform for Kings XI Punjab."

Kings XI were without Hashim Amla, who hit two hundreds in the tournament - neither of them resulted in wins, though. Sehwag was effusive in his praise for the South African opener who had left on national duty.

"We missed Hashim Amla, for sure," Sehwag said. "The kind of consistency he showed, none of the other players could do that, an individual couldn't take responsibility. Saha played one [good] innings, Manan Vohra played one innings but apart from that none of the others played responsibly.

"He [Amla] is an experienced player and has played more than 100 Test matches and averages close to 50 in Test cricket and also one-day cricket. He knows how to score runs immaterial of the format. And he takes very few risks. Whatever risks he takes, it is always after 12 or 15 overs, when he knows that he has completed his role and there's a need to score quick runs. Otherwise, for the first 10 overs he takes less risks and remains on 30-40 and converts them into big scores. The two hundreds that he scored were brilliant. The other players in the team have a lot to learn from Hashim Amla, be it international players or Indian."

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Postby Going South » Mon May 15, 2017 11:43 am

IPL is the most competitive cricket as you can see in cricket world. No tournament is this intense. With all hand auction around the corner for next year, this year's IPL is more intense. All players know it as it's perform or perish. You get big buck auction rates only when you perform today. I think these foreign players also know about this. I believe they are NOT intentionally complacent. They did try their best but the truth is that they are not up to par is the hard truth. Other team bowled better. These foreigners are just got found out. That's it. There is no issue of not giving your 100%. Segwag is giving SOUND BITES to save his ass in his new mentor career for next year. He needs a Scape goat For his failures. He does not have balls to pick on Indian players and say the same. Foreign players gets him easy fodder. Blame them. It's easy.

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Postby Katto » Mon May 15, 2017 11:47 am

this is coming from the most responsible player in the history of cricket

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Postby Boycs » Mon May 15, 2017 8:24 pm

Katto wrote:this is coming from the most responsible player in the history of cricket


Hah touché

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Postby Paddles » Mon May 15, 2017 11:37 pm

Its a shame to see people I was a fan of during their playing days, and many enjoyed Sehwag's refreshing and reinvigorating approach to test cricket, then just become another blame the Imports IPL commentator or manager. But I think the problem here when I read the article is that although Sehwag has stated the words, he is actually more upset with Shaun Marsh and Glenn Maxwell's form (and Morgan prior).

Glen Maxwell averaged a tick over 30. That is more or less acceptable. He is not typically an anchor batsman - but would you want him to captain and anchor with the bat your favorite team? Whoever appointed him to this role needs to take responsibility for their decision, especially if not happy with his performance as a captain or as an anchor.

Gutpil he pardons, but Guptil should have played much earlier in the tournament for mine. He is a regular match winner, but needs a big sample to play those knocks that all fans of world cricket know he is more than capable of against the best attacks in the world, Australia, Safrica, WI, Ind, and Eng included.

Shaun Marsh. I wouldn't buy him in my IPL team.

Eion Morgan - may not get bought at next IPL auction.

Lets face it - some clubs buy smarter than others. Some clubs have KW and Mustafizur on the bench like SRH do, some clubs buy CDG for peanuts to replace Andre Russell like KKR did; some clubs just have a complete squad that even forces out the local talent of K Pandya like MI do, and play low rated imports like Mitch McClenhan in preference over the more internationally fancied Tim Southee.

Matt Henry was not a smart T20 purchase for KXI - you never saw me say - where is Matt Henry? Playing Morgan and Marsh ahead of Guptil was not smart. And the local Indian supremely talented players that really change a team's balance, think of those rated behind superstar Dhoni - Rahul, Karthik, Uthappa, those types - King's XI seem to be short there as well.

Instead of relying of foreigners as 4 players to make a team. Use the foreigners to complete the team like SRH, MI and KKR do, and a team will be much much better, well rounded and easier to tinker with successfully.

Here's a tip for KXI - buy KW or Warner next year. And buy some serious local talent too. Blaming 4 imports for the woes of 11 does not sit well with me at all, especially from a manager. And not something I expect to hear from Gambhir and Kallis, Sharma and Jayawardene, nor Warner and Moody for that matter. In basketball there is an unlimited number of shots for a player to attempt to throw, in gridiron, a quarterback gets an unlimited number of passes each game - possession and 10 yards pending, in T20 cricket a bowler gets 24 deliveries and a batsman 1 wicket, it is far more a team game. Cricket has superstars, but they are far more restricted in their opportunities. If imports are to blame, buy domestic talent instead.
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Postby Going South » Tue May 16, 2017 11:03 am

I do agree on EION MORGAN unfit for IPL. For that matter most of English players are unfit.

Maxwell is a good pick. But he alone can't win all matches as he is no David Warner though. He sure contributed well towards wins this IPL. He gave his 100%. Cant complain.

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Postby Boycs » Tue May 16, 2017 1:04 pm

What are morgans stats this ipl?

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Postby Paddles » Tue May 16, 2017 1:54 pm

Boycs wrote:What are morgans stats this ipl?

4 in last game.

22, 13 and 26 before that.
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Postby Boycs » Tue May 16, 2017 2:13 pm

Oh yeah that's poor.

Stokes has done well though, and if I'm correct also Woakes?

Not sure about tymal mills didn't he get injured?

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Postby Paddles » Tue May 16, 2017 10:00 pm

Boycs wrote:Oh yeah that's poor.

Stokes has done well though, and if I'm correct also Woakes?

Not sure about tymal mills didn't he get injured?


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Postby Going South » Wed May 17, 2017 2:07 pm

A player is called a good player if he singled handedly contribute to team win at least 1 out of 5 matches he plays. Man of match counts. This rule is universal be it local or foreign player. If not they are average and are expendable.

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Postby raja » Wed May 17, 2017 2:16 pm

Agree with Paddles' observations.

Kings XI just didn't buy smart.
And then, having already made that first big mistake, didn't even play their best XI.

Let's not forget - they even picked Ishant Sharma as replacement player!
Come on!

Guptill deserved many more games.
Shaun Marsh is an absolute waste of space - and kept playing!

With such poor decisions, am surprised they even had a shot at a playoff place.

Credit to the Sandeep Sharmas and Mohit Sharmas of the side.

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Postby Paddles » Thu May 18, 2017 3:41 am

raja wrote:Agree with Paddles' observations.

Kings XI just didn't buy smart.
And then, having already made that first big mistake, didn't even play their best XI.

Let's not forget - they even picked Ishant Sharma as replacement player!
Come on!

Guptill deserved many more games.
Shaun Marsh is an absolute waste of space - and kept playing!

With such poor decisions, am surprised they even had a shot at a playoff place.

Credit to the Sandeep Sharmas and Mohit Sharmas of the side.


Well if Sehwag saves his job, at the next IPL auction I'd make getting young proven Indian talent a priority. I'd try n pinch Uthappa or Rahul from RCB to be my keeper. That's my first pick. Then I'd go for Bhuvi or Bumrah. Indian seam death bowlers are the rarest of all cricketers. Then I'd go for a domestic batting star to captain if any left (which may be the case if ABDV Warner Stokes Pollard etc go in first rounds) if not an international, then I'd look to get KW or Guptil in the 4th round or much lower and look for a quality Indian all-rounder here instead from Y Singh type through to K Pandya.

And this will be possible as Kohli will be the first player picked, Sharma, Raina et al will closely follow. As will Pollard, Dre Russ, ABDV and Warner. But I don't think they're as important as crunch balance players who do 2 roles or death bowlers. And I think some of these batting types could still be picked later on.

I think if someone rated from 1 to 88 or 110 IPL cricketers, there would be a glut of players that are crucial to team balance much more lowly ranked than the batting superstars. These are the guys I would aim to nabbing as a priority. And to be honest - Uthappa and Rahul are practically in that batting masterclass group anyway or in Rahul's case - have the potential to be. If Pant is the next big thing, grab him. But I wouldn't be picking Raina, Sharma, et al with my first two picks.

I would be getting what is in the shortest supply first, which is not specialist batting talent. It is quality local seam bowling and high quality (batting) allrounders including wicket keepers.
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