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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:24 am

Here is my TEAM OF THE SEASON Mike.

Weatherald ( D Hughes Special mention)
Renshaw (Harris Special mention)
Burns ( Ferguson Special mention)
Labuchagne ( Heazlett special mention)
Head ( Maxwell Special mention)
Doran ( White special mention)
Peirson (Josh Inglis Special mention)
Tremain
Winter
Copeland (Bell, Neser and Wildermuth Special mention)
Swepson (Fawad Special mention)
12th man. Tom Rogers..

The MOVERS and LOSERS. As is the case every summer the T20 break kills Shield momentum. Some players improve while others falter. These are as I see it given there are no records from which I can confirm unless I spent hours trawling thru results.
MOVERS: Renshaw, Head, Labuchagne, Silk (batsmen) Winter, Rogers, Neser, Rainbird. (bowlers)
LOSERS: Lehmann, Larkin, Cartwright, Cooper, Bailey (batsmen) Mennie, Siddle, Worrall (bowlers)
MOST IMPROVED from Last Year: Weatherald, Labuchagne, Maxwell, Doran (batsmen) Neser, Copeland, Boland, Swepson (bowlers)
Biggest DUDS: Maddinson, , Zampa, Nevill, Henriques, Bosisto, Wells, Stoinis.
Best DEBUTS: Nick Winter, Tom Rogers.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:13 am

Can't disagree with your side Baggers, maybe Wade or Carey as my keeper, but can't disagree with Peirson due to his captaincy, (Captain of the year).

Obviously the biggest losers of the year are the big 4 : Larkin, Henriques, Maddinson and Nevil. Darcy Short Tom Rogers and Ben McDermott were surprise failures for me, MacKin was also disappointing, Honestly wasn't overly impressed with Sayers either, one of his worst seasons 17 wickets @ 32. I would have liked to see J Richardson play more instead of holidaying in SA 18 wickets @ 30 doesn't cry out "pick me". Dalton didn't live up to much, disappointing. Cooper, Christian and Doolan coming to the end of their careers. Cartwright wasn't a big failure just didn't bowl much. Zampa disappointing as well, as was Agar in both departments.

For me ones to watch also include Matthew Kelly, Stoinis, Wildermuth, Heazlett....forget it I'll just say it, the entire Qld team, a bunch of no-names kids hosting the final, can't ask for much more.

Saddest moment, Douggie's retirement 11 wickets @ 32 in his final year, still better than Conway, Abbott, at nearly 37 the big guy still had it over some of the up and comers. Finished his career at No 21 sheffield shield wicket takers with 290 @ 28, excellent effort.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:06 am

Can't disagree with your side Baggers, maybe Wade or Carey as my keeper, but can't disagree with Peirson due to his captaincy, (Captain of the year). Reason I gave him the nod Mike. First time skipper leads side to the final. George Bailey gets a special mention taking his Tigers to the final for first time in several years. I too was impressed with Mathew Kelly. Stoinis "one to watch"? Agar never had momentum after coming in late in season after injury. He is a much improved bowler and from his 80odd yesterday is still one of the sweetest strikers of a cricket ball we have. A big heart had Dougie no doubt about that. Ed Cowan played one season too many. Still his record is meritorious. 143 FC games @42..25 100s.. 225 hs. Never quite hit his straps at Test level. A good scrapper is how I best describe Ed...George Bailey has dropped form. Could he also announce his retirement after the final. Christian is also likely to hang up his boots. Blessed with so much natural talent not sure Dan got the most out of himself.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:17 am

The Bulls only need a draw to claim the silverware. Those are words I hate hearing for a final. Can we expect a tedious drawn out go slow by QLD to ensure the draw. On the other hand a combination of the swinging Dukes ball, a pitch that's been under covers and the respective sides' attacking approaches could cancel that out and make for exciting viewing.

A delay due to a wet outfield at Allan Border Field. Wont be the same commmenting without you Mike or Mick too. Hoping the big fellar is recovering.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:11 am

baggygreenmania wrote:The Bulls only need a draw to claim the silverware. Those are words I hate hearing for a final. Can we expect a tedious drawn out go slow by QLD to ensure the draw. On the other hand a combination of the swinging Dukes ball, a pitch that's been under covers and the respective sides' attacking approaches could cancel that out and make for exciting viewing.

A delay due to a wet outfield at Allan Border Field. Wont be the same commmenting without you Mike or Mick too. Hoping the big fellar is recovering.


time to can the final

the Shield was more gripping when it was decided in the final round

I can remember only one good final...and that was a draw

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:29 am

Katto wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:The Bulls only need a draw to claim the silverware. Those are words I hate hearing for a final. Can we expect a tedious drawn out go slow by QLD to ensure the draw. On the other hand a combination of the swinging Dukes ball, a pitch that's been under covers and the respective sides' attacking approaches could cancel that out and make for exciting viewing.

A delay due to a wet outfield at Allan Border Field. Wont be the same commmenting without you Mike or Mick too. Hoping the big fellar is recovering.


time to can the final

the Shield was more gripping when it was decided in the final round

I can remember only one good final...and that was a draw

The last three won by the Bushrangers have been big disappoinments and borefests.. So predictable with no excitement or tension. Why this ludicrous policy of allowing the first into the final needing only to draw to win the trophy?

How long does it take for the Super Sopper to do its thing. We have clear skies and still no cricket.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:12 am

When are they going to enclose cricket grounds so rain will never again stop play.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:04 am

baggygreenmania wrote:When are they going to enclose cricket grounds so rain will never again stop play.


Enclosed stadiums range from 0.5 to a billion dollars a piece. Most of cricket is played in the third world. Not really viable any time soon.

lets deal with bad light first as I think that causes a lot more disruptions than rain

cheap solution, use existing floodlights and play every match using pink balls

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Postby Going South » Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:01 pm

how high you build the ceiling ?
what were your the rules for 6?
you need to use metal entirely but not glass as a 6 might break it. that include any light fixtures in the middle if Gayle or Kohli batting for T20. maintenance costs would be astronomical. if a key light goes out by a 6, you interrupt the play till someone replaces a bulb broken by a 6? delay of game ? overs cut?
third world or not, it’s not practical.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:58 pm

Going South wrote:how high you build the ceiling ?
what were your the rules for 6?
you need to use metal entirely but not glass as a 6 might break it. that include any light fixtures in the middle if Gayle or Kohli batting for T20. maintenance costs would be astronomical. if a key light goes out by a 6, you interrupt the play till someone replaces a bulb broken by a 6? delay of game ? overs cut?
third world or not, it’s not practical.

I was thinking of the less expensive option of say transluscent sail cloth or such material covering the ground yet allowing in lite and air on the sides.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:01 am

Teams: Matthew Renshaw, Joe Burns, Marnus Labuschagne, Charlie Hemphrey, Sam Heazlett, Jack Wildermuth, Jimmy Peirson (c/wk), Michael Neser, Mitchell Swepson, Brendan Doggett, Luke Feldman

TAS: Alex Doolan, Jordan Silk, Beau Webster, Jake Doran, George Bailey (c), Matthew Wade (wk), Simon Milenko, Tom Rogers, Sam Rainbird, Jackson Bird, Andrew Fekete.

Play underway in the final at AB Field after a full washout on first day. Tigers batting on a green top. Bulls bowlers should enjoy having the Dukes in their hand.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:08 am

George Bailey wins toss and bats first.. Will he regret that as there is plenty of moisture under the surface after lots of rain in Brisbane of late.

You would think CA would reschedule a reserve day to cover for the lost first day. But no it is now a four day final.

Two years and still CA has live stream gremlins.

Is Jordan Silk finally winning the battle with the Black Dog. Looks back to his best of several years ago when there was talk of a Baggy Green.

What an improved cricketer is Jack Wildermuth. Is my tip as Mitch Marsh's deputy for our all rounder spot.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:08 am

With an England Ashes on the horizon,it is important to know who prospered most from use of the Dukes ball this summer and who did not. In case of CA not using analytical data to determine this I will attempt to despite not having figures from each two parts of the Shield.

Batsmen:
Matt Renshaw, Jake Weatherald, Marnus Labuchagne, Travis Head, Joe Burns, Jake Doran, Jordan Silk, Travis Dean, Charlie Hemphrey.
Bowlers:
Nick Winter, Chris Tremain, Mike Neser, Tom Rogers,Trent Copeland, Sam Rainbird, Frank Worrall, Mitch Swepson.

All of the above should most certainly be in the mix for a berth in next winters Ashes.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:49 am

Doggett doing something you dont see too often. A r/a quick going round the wicket to a r/a batsman. It is paying dividends as he now has the only two wkts to fall after lunch. Tassie in some trouble now.

Good partnerships with the skipper anchoring things has the Tigers back on track leading into tea.

George Bailey's gutsy captains knock is ended by a run out.



What has happened to the live coverage?
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Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:20 am

MIlenko and Rogers staying with anchor Wade and contributing useful runs for Tassie. 400 looks on the cards now. Bulls quicks would be disappointed with the lack of swing from the Dukes today.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:26 pm

The ball tampering in Cape Town has overshadowed the Shield final somewhat. The English Dukes ball has been good for revitalising Shield cricket. I advocate it be used for the entire 10 rounds and in all home Test matches from now on then the need to cheat to give the ball some life in order to take wickets would be negated.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:30 pm

Mathew Wade has now scored three tons since Christmas. Is the reason ease of mind over not worrying about wearing the national gloves?

400 is now posted by the Tigers. Is a declaration imminent?

Can Doggett get a five for? Yes he can. Feather in cap getting a five for or a century in a final.

This deck is now a belter with tail enders slapping respected bowlers to all parts.

Tigers have 477 in the bag. Now watch for a three day bat fest from the Bulls to secure a draw and the title.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:40 am

Renshaw took Bird for 18 off his second over. And I said we would have a tedious batfest.

Bird has last laugh getting Renners to knick a wide one which he should have left well alone.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:51 pm

Bulls most inform batsman Charlie Hemphrey is anchoring the Bulls response. He needs to turn this into a big one. Sam Heazlett has just gone. Plenty of starts by the Bulls. Paper talk this morning that Renshaw and Burns could be dragged from this final and on a plane to SA to cover for the absence of Smith and Warner and perhaps Bancroft from the last test.

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Postby Going South » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:00 am

From “many faces of Australian cricket” one ugly face is “Ball tampering team”.

how the mighty have fallen?

These guys just undone decades of reputation for professionalism & excellence in the game.

Older departed stars of Australian cricket would sure turn in their graves.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:11 am

Going South wrote:From “many faces of Australian cricket” one ugly face is “Ball tampering team”.

how the mighty have fallen?

These guys just undone decades of reputation for professionalism & excellence in the game.

Older departed stars of Australian cricket would sure turn in their graves.
I am still in shock as is much of Australia. "Play hard but fair" is the Australian motto. Smith, Warner & Co have trashed that.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:19 am

I borrowed this from cricinfo. Many ways to tamper - Who used what?
The Bancroft incident in Cape Town is not the first time a cricket ball has been tampered with using a foreign object. Can you match these objects with the players involved?
http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... -used-what


Check out this rap sheet of known ball tamperers.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

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baggygreenmania wrote:
Going South wrote:From “many faces of Australian cricket” one ugly face is “Ball tampering team”.

how the mighty have fallen?

These guys just undone decades of reputation for professionalism & excellence in the game.

Older departed stars of Australian cricket would sure turn in their graves.
I am still in shock as is much of Australia. "Play hard but fair" is the Australian motto. Smith, Warner & Co have trashed that.


the younger generation no longer know right from wrong because ethics are now a fluid concept thanks to a failing education system and de-Christianisation. There is no fear of moral consequences.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:33 am

To me Tassie lack a quality spinner. Whatever happened to Cameron Boyce? He is a clever, composed leggie that would compliment the bowling attack.

Jack Wildermuth continues to impress.. this time with the bat. He is a quality all rounder in waiting IMO.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:40 am

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baggygreenmania wrote: I am still in shock as is much of Australia. "Play hard but fair" is the Australian motto. Smith, Warner & Co have trashed that.


the younger generation no longer know right from wrong because ethics are now a fluid concept thanks to a failing education system and de-Christianisation. There is no fear of moral consequences.

The thing that baffles me the most is how blatant it was with half dozen boundary cameras , stump mikes, CCTV looking on . In addition I expect the umpires have been told to be extra vigilant after the recent ball tampering allegation of Pat Cummins.. Total stupidity almost you could say deliberate as tho they wanted to be found out.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:09 am

Reckon we know what the Bulls strategy is with skipper Peirson travelling at a 35 strike rate.. bat for as long as we can to use up as much time as we can, bore the many spectators to death with a draw at the end of the play. But hey..thats ok as we dont need to win to take the title. Another bloody ludicrous policy by CA.

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Postby Katto » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:35 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:
the younger generation no longer know right from wrong because ethics are now a fluid concept thanks to a failing education system and de-Christianisation. There is no fear of moral consequences.

The thing that baffles me the most is how blatant it was with half dozen boundary cameras , stump mikes, CCTV looking on . In addition I expect the umpires have been told to be extra vigilant after the recent ball tampering allegation of Pat Cummins.. Total stupidity almost you could say deliberate as tho they wanted to be found out.


They live in a bubble. The lack of self awareness and the level of delusion is what surprises me most.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:02 am

Katto wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote: The thing that baffles me the most is how blatant it was with half dozen boundary cameras , stump mikes, CCTV looking on . In addition I expect the umpires have been told to be extra vigilant after the recent ball tampering allegation of Pat Cummins.. Total stupidity..you could almost say deliberate as tho they wanted to be found out.


They live in a bubble. The lack of self awareness and the level of delusion is what surprises me most.
Is there a win at all costs mentality to maintain the high profile of test cricket?. And who do we blame for this..the players themselves or the coaching staff. Is admin at fault. That nong Howard for instance. Whatever the reason this sad episode will certainly not help Test crickets profile.

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Postby Katto » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:18 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
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They live in a bubble. The lack of self awareness and the level of delusion is what surprises me most.
Is there a win at all costs mentality to maintain the high profile of test cricket?. And who do we blame for this..the players themselves or the coaching staff. Is admin at fault. That nong Howard for instance. Whatever the reason this sad episode will certainly not help Test crickets profile.


One can only speculate on what drove them to do it. Maybe the CCTV episode and the Rabada episode caused Smith to snap and do anything to win because he was so angry at how everything unfolded after the first test and thought it was justified.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:27 am

Katto wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote: Is there a win at all costs mentality to maintain the high profile of test cricket?. And who do we blame for this..the players themselves or the coaching staff. Is admin at fault. That nong Howard for instance. Whatever the reason this sad episode will certainly not help Test crickets profile.


One can only speculate on what drove them to do it. Maybe the CCTV episode and the Rabada episode caused Smith to snap and do anything to win because he was so angry at how everything unfolded after the first test and thought it was justified.
Last example is a good point. Smithy said publicly he was pissed off over the Rabada let off. Did he feel his integrity was being questioned. So Rabada was free again to continue hitting us with his reverse swing which incidently no one has questioned. Lets face it most of his wickets this series have come later in the innings with an old and worn ball.
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Postby Katto » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:31 am

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One can only speculate on what drove them to do it. Maybe the CCTV episode and the Rabada episode caused Smith to snap and do anything to win because he was so angry at how everything unfolded after the first test and thought it was justified.
Last example is a good point.Smithy said publicly he was pissed off over the Rabada let off. Was his integrity at stake. Well now his integrity is shot to bits.

shows weak character to buckle under something like that

Lyon showed more class at the time

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:39 am

The more I think about the more I reckon Smith snapped when Rabada shoulder charged him. Where is the respect for the Australian cricket captain. Could that be the moment this plan was hatched. We can speculate all we like. The truth will come out shortly and all will be revealed.

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Postby Katto » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:01 am

baggygreenmania wrote:The more I think about the more I reckon Smith snapped when Rabada shoulder charged him. Where is the respect for the Australian cricket captain. Could that be the moment this plan was hatched. We can speculate all we like. The truth will come out shortly and all will be revealed.


Hopefully we'll get the truth but often things like this are obfuscated. In sport and politics moreso.

A true mark of leadership and maturity is the understanding that life isn't always fair and to move on and play with the cards you're dealt rather than trying to redress the balance by 'justified' cheating.

Smith thinks the world owes him something.

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Postby Going South » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:14 am

well said katto.
i hate to see folks “justify” this BLATANT cheating, not just players but fans like us also.
It irked me earlier when certain “fans” here in CF try to justify ball tampering as in Pakistani did it, BCCI players did it (allegedly?) etc some decades back, So its OK for Australians to do ball tampering TODAY. no big deal sayers?? no no. it is a BIG DEAL.
They started the downfall down the spiral.
If ACB management does not take STRONG steps and take ACTION it’s gonna be even worse in the coming years.
NIP IT IN THE BUD.
take some ACTION in-house, not just ICC eye-wash punishment.
get some HEADS ROLLING.
Make them all fear !
Don’t become LAUGHING STOCK of world cricket community.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby raja » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:26 am

ICC need to have a far stricter punishment for ball-tampering.
Ban for 1 Test and docking of match fees doesn't cut it.

Even if CA deals out a harsh punishment for Smith and Warner, how does that deter BCCI ball-tampering?

ICC needs to raise the bar - will apply then to all.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby bolero » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:33 am

To me what was disturbing is make Bancroft the fall guy ? He has just started his career and was made the sacrificial lamb in this sordid episode.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:46 am

bolero wrote:To me what was disturbing is make Bancroft the fall guy ? He has just started his career and was made the sacrificial lamb in this sordid episode.


Well Smith is the fall guy according to the ICC because he got suspended.
Bancroft is 25 though, he's not a kid... he should be old enough to know right from wrong and nobody forced him to take part in it. He had choices.

I just wish the next few days will pass quickly because I can't wait for the CA inquiry findings and subsequent actions :popcorn:

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby bolero » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:20 am

Katto wrote:
bolero wrote:To me what was disturbing is make Bancroft the fall guy ? He has just started his career and was made the sacrificial lamb in this sordid episode.


Well Smith is the fall guy according to the ICC because he got suspended.
Bancroft is 25 though, he's not a kid... he should be old enough to know right from wrong and nobody forced him to take part in it. He had choices.

I just wish the next few days will pass quickly because I can't wait for the CA inquiry findings and subsequent actions :popcorn:


Yes, he is responsible for what he did. Facing the music now.

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Postby Katto » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:21 pm

Ed Cowan on the Bill & Boz show labeled team manager Pat Howard as Teflon Pat. Nothing sticks to Pat.
Surely he's also part of the problem. The fact he's mates with Sutherland just reinforces the boys club at CA, which is neither merit nor performance based at the management level.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:35 pm

Katto wrote:Ed Cowan on the Bill & Boz show labeled team manager Pat Howard as Teflon Pat. Nothing sticks to Pat.
Surely he's also part of the problem. The fact he's mates with Sutherland just reinforces the boys club at CA, which is neither merit nor performance based at the management level.
Good on you Ed. What more juicy tidbits may Ed reveal now he is not under the yoke of his former masters.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:38 pm

bolero wrote:
Katto wrote:
Well Smith is the fall guy according to the ICC because he got suspended.
Bancroft is 25 though, he's not a kid... he should be old enough to know right from wrong and nobody forced him to take part in it. He had choices.

I just wish the next few days will pass quickly because I can't wait for the CA inquiry findings and subsequent actions :popcorn:


Yes, he is responsible for what he did. Facing the music now.
Oh shock..horror. As if we did not already know this. Warner was just as complicite as Smith and will not play in fourth Test. Talk of a one year ban on the both. That is too much even but talk of a life ban is ridiculous IMO. Lehmann's silence is deafening. Waiting for him to fall on his sword.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:45 pm

bolero wrote:To me what was disturbing is make Bancroft the fall guy ? He has just started his career and was made the sacrificial lamb in this sordid episode.
I heard Bancroft put up his hand to be "the fall guy" as you put it bolero. He went into this with his eyes wide open. Guilty as charged. But he will not face suspension. Just face the ignomy of a loss of reputation. :oops:

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:19 am

Backing up my statement this AB Field deck is now a batting paradise. Doolan actually has a half century. Expecting Tigers skipper George Bailey to breath new life back into this final by declaring and giving the Bulls 250/300 to win. Also expecting the Bulls to spoil the party and bat out the game for a draw.

Rain has spoiled the show so plans and strategies will now be changed. Rain is expected to clear at around 2pm so still plenty of time for a result. 2.10 pm Brissie time. Umpires inspecting the ground.. sunny now.. play should be back underway shortly.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:19 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Backing up my statement this AB Field deck is now a batting paradise. Doolan actually has a half century. Expecting Tigers skipper George Bailey to breath new life back into this final by declaring and giving the Bulls 250/300 to win. Also expecting the Bulls to spoil the party and bat out the game for a draw.

Rain has spoiled the show so plans and strategies will now be changed. Rain is expected to clear at around 2pm so still plenty of time for a result.


I'm shocked that the team that only needs to draw to win the Sheffield Shield staged the final on a batting paradise!!!

time to get rid of the Shield Final. Its almost always a farce.

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I'm shocked that the team that only needs to draw to win the Sheffield Shield staged the final on a batting paradise!!!

Reckon they factored in the inclement weather too. Surely a batting friendly surface is precisely what the Bulls wanted as they can bat and bat for a draw. Took them the best part of two days to post their only score.. that is slow. Tailenders were hitting 50s it was that benign.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:55 am

Umpires say ground is still not playable. Another inspection at 3 Brissie time. Time is getting away for a result. Rain and cricket.. a SAD, SORRY SAGA.
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Postby Katto » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:22 am

time for a few of these blokes to get on the plane anyway

the sooner they get to South Africa the better

this almost has a World Series Cricket fracture feel to it with all the stand-ins ready to go

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Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:56 am

Bailey has been generous giving the Bulls just 127 runs off 24 overs to win the Shield final.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

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Katto wrote:time for a few of these blokes to get on the plane anyway

the sooner they get to South Africa the better

this almost has a World Series Cricket fracture feel to it with all the stand-ins ready to go
It definitely does. Where is Kerry Packer? Ok quiz time.. who will be the replacement batsmen, will we need replacement quicks for Starc and Hazlewood. Lehmann should resign.. Alfie Langer is favorite.. outsiders are Bailey and Clarke. Even mention of Ponting too. That surprises me as Ricky has not even commited as T20 coach. Timmy Paine should be the next skipper.

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Postby Katto » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:04 am

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Katto wrote:time for a few of these blokes to get on the plane anyway

the sooner they get to South Africa the better

this almost has a World Series Cricket fracture feel to it with all the stand-ins ready to go
It definitely does. Where is Kerry Packer? Ok quiz time.. who will be the replacement batsmen, will we need replacement quicks for Starc and Hazlewood. Lehmann should resign.. Alfie Langer is favorite.. outsiders are Bailey and Clarke. Even mention of Ponting too. That surprises me as Ricky has not even commited as T20 coach. Timmy Paine should be the next skipper.

Kerry Packer is long dead mate :) rest his soul