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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:37 pm

Boycs wrote:I think he means the length of the thread

We are in the Aussie off season. Is Misty aware of that? Pages will start filling again soon with the Bangladesh tour before which there is an A tour to South Africa.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:55 pm

Aussie quick James Pattinson has been imperious for Nottinghamshire in English County cricket this season.

In only four matches, the 27-year-old has captured 25 wickets at a remarkable @10.24 and a lethal strike-rate of 22.2 balls per wicket.

Pattinson captured 5-33 against Leicestershire overnight, his second five-wicket haul of the English summer.

The Victorian’s returns in the 50-over format have been solid compared to his red-ball record, with 12 wickets at 35.58 in nine matches.

When Pattinson walks through the Grace Gates of Lord’s next month, it will be the first time since the 2013 Ashes he has played at the Home of Cricket.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:37 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Aussie quick James Pattinson has been imperious for Nottinghamshire in English County cricket this season.

In only four matches, the 27-year-old has captured 25 wickets at a remarkable @10.24 and a lethal strike-rate of 22.2 balls per wicket.

Pattinson captured 5-33 against Leicestershire overnight, his second five-wicket haul of the English summer.

The Victorian’s returns in the 50-over format have been solid compared to his red-ball record, with 12 wickets at 35.58 in nine matches.

When Pattinson walks through the Grace Gates of Lord’s next month, it will be the first time since the 2013 Ashes he has played at the Home of Cricket.


He is also completely out performing his county team mates Jake Ball and Stuart Broad who are England test players which bares well for Australian Ashes hopes.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:24 pm

Australia players' union rejects Cricket Australia's revised pay offer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40378642

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:18 pm

CA and ACA still at loggerheads despite revised offer and some concessions.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/c ... 05398.html

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:43 pm

The Aussie Test squad will head north to tropical Darwin in August to prepare for Bangladesh Test series.

The Baggy Greens have finalised preparations for their next Test assignment by replicating and acclimatising to steamy Bangladesh with a seven day training camp in the Top End city..

The camp will include a three-day intra-squad match on August 14 at Marrara Cricket Ground.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:50 pm

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The long-serving SCG curator Tom Parker (left) will step down later this year, just a few months before Australia's home Ashes series.

Parker has spent 20 years in charge of the SCG pitch and turf, and will be joined in his exit by Allianz Stadium curator Michael Finch, with the SCG Trust planning to bring both the cricket and soccer venues together under one team of groundstaff.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:36 am

Aussie Southern Stars kick off its World Cup with a mauling of the enigmatic Windies. Little Nicky Bolton (pictured) was the star of the show with a superb century. :dance:

Scorecard: Australia women 205 for 2 (Bolton 107*, Mooney 70, Taylor 2-33) beat West Indies women 204 (Matthews 46, Taylor 45, Perry 3-47) by eight wickets

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:04 am

The ongoing and sometimes dirty pay dispute between CA and the ACA is developing into farce now. It is understood that Glenn Maxwell, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja and Jackson Bird will be asked by CA to represent their country for love and no money in an extraordinary scenario that defies the era of professional sport.

Cricket’s pay crisis, which is set to leave more than 200 players unemployed come Saturday, will now see some of the game’s biggest names offered temporary 'unpaid tour contracts' to play for Australia A in a fortnite in a bid to save the tour from collapse.…

As it stands the Australia A squad due to tour Africa are split down the middle with players on the brink of unemployment and the rest in a position where even if the Memorandum of Understanding saga remains unresolved, they will continue to be paid on multi-year state contracts. :roll:

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:55 am

:hatsoff: Left handed Blues veteran Ben Rohrer has played his last Shield game for his state with Cricket NSW not offering him another contract. He will however continue to play for the Sydney Thunder.

Rohrer debuted for NSW in 2007, scoring 2895 Sheffield Shield runs in 54 games at an average of 36.65 with five centuries.His highest score of 163 came in his first match, against Tasmania.

Rohrer also played 43 one-day matches for NSW and represented his state in the original Big Bash competition before stints with the Melbourne Renegades, the Sydney Sixers, and now the Thunder. :hatsoff:


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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:00 am

baggygreenmania wrote:The ongoing and sometimes dirty pay dispute between CA and the ACA is developing into farce now. It is understood that Glenn Maxwell, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja and Jackson Bird will be asked by CA to represent their country for love and no money in an extraordinary scenario that defies the era of professional sport.

Cricket’s pay crisis, which is set to leave more than 200 players unemployed come Saturday, will now see some of the game’s biggest names offered temporary 'unpaid tour contracts' to play for Australia A in a fortnite in a bid to save the tour from collapse.…

As it stands the Australia A squad due to tour Africa are split down the middle with players on the brink of unemployment and the rest in a position where even if the Memorandum of Understanding saga remains unresolved, they will continue to be paid on multi-year state contracts. :roll:

There is a feeling among some people that this is only between CA and the 20 players offered contracts, it's not. It's between CA and the ACA (Australian Cricketers association) to which all elite level Cricketers in Australia belong. CA could announce a totally new squad of 20 come the 1st July but they will have to sign them to new contracts, who will represent the players at the Contract negotiations? Exactly the same people who are representing the 1st 20, their demands will be exactly the same, so nothing changes.
If CA was to offer players contracts on a personal basis without going through the ACA how many would go against their own association and sign? Very few if any and the reprucations for Australian Cricket would be felt for the next 10 years.
This has to be sorted or there will be no Bangladesh tour and no Ashes.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:09 am

baggygreenmania wrote::hatsoff: Left handed Blues veteran Ben Rohrer has played his last Shield game for his state with Cricket NSW not offering him another contract. He will however continue to play for the Sydney Thunder.

Rohrer debuted for NSW in 2007, scoring 2895 Sheffield Shield runs in 54 games at an average of 36.65 with five centuries.His highest score of 163 came in his first match, against Tasmania.

Rohrer also played 43 one-day matches for NSW and represented his state in the original Big Bash competition before stints with the Melbourne Renegades, the Sydney Sixers, and now the Thunder. :hatsoff:


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He also played one T20 for Australia against the Windies at the Gabba in 2013. A great servant of NSW Cricket for a decade, FC comps all over the world is built on players like him, without them we can't develop the Kohlis, Smiths, Williansons & Roots of the world :bow:
He's moving to Tassie to take up a Talent Manager role with Tasmania. Possibly the type of player who would make a good coach, not the most gifted but got there through hard work.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:13 am

Australia’s cricketers could have access to a new, state-of-the-art facility ahead of the ICC Men’s and Women’s World T20 tournaments in 2020.

CA and Qld Cricket have committed $4.25 million towards the creation of a National Cricket Campus, to include upgrades to the NCC and Qld Cricket facilities at the Allan Border Field in Albion.

The Campus would provide access for all male and female National teams and performance squads, plus provide a new premier venue for state and national age championships, international youth events and female tournaments in all formats.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:33 am

Blues right handed rookie Ryan Gibson has been accepted as a scholar in the 2017 National Performance Squad, Australian cricket's elite finishing school for the most promising cricketers in the country. :hatsoff:

Gibbo announced himself to Australian cricket last season with debuts in all three formats..S Shield, Matador Cup and BBL.

The stylish strokemaker's big summer included 293 runs for the CA XI at the Matador Cup, seventh overall, behind the likes of Cameron White, Moises Henriques and Adam Voges.

He also made three Shield appearances in a star-studded NSW Blues outfit, with a top score of 65 not out, plus seven outings in the BBL with the Sydney Thunder.

2017 National Performance Squad: Alex Carey (SA), Jackson Coleman (VIC), Michael Cormack (SA), Brendan Doggett (QLD), Jake Doran (TAS), Daniel Fallins (NSW), Jordan Gauci (NSW), Ryan Gibson (NSW), Ryan Hadley (NSW), Josh Inglis (WA), Marnus Labuschagne (QLD), Lewin Maladay (NSW), Ben McDermott (TAS), Tom O'Donnell (VIC), Ben Pengelley (SA), Henry Thornton (NSW), Param Uppal (NSW), Mac Wright (TAS).

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:29 am

BBL is losing money big time and CA revenue is tanking as a result. They made their bed now they have to lay in it.
There's not enough money in Australia to go around. If 1st class players want a career they'll have to go to England.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:52 am

That's fine. We'll figure them out.

Though actually they'll get used to the dukes ball.

Crap! :P

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:05 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/c ... 07173.html

CA warns of six-month bans for playing unsanctioned matches

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:26 am

Boycs wrote:http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/1107173.html

CA warns of six-month bans for playing unsanctioned matches

The excrement is about to well and truly hit the fan!

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:39 am

is it 1978 or 1984 all over again?

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possible ASHES BAN for australians

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Re: possible ASHES BAN for australians

Postby Boycs » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:56 am

Misty wrote:http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/1107173.html


Misty I've moved your topic into here as we are already talking about it :)

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:29 pm

What were these exhibition matches then? First I've heard of players thinking these up.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:20 pm

no one is going to play in exhibition matches and expect to make a living

unsanctioned T20 and first class contracts is what's really at stake

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:22 pm

I thought CA is open to IPL contracts? Or are they not as open as the players would prefer

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:28 pm

Boycs wrote:I thought CA is open to IPL contracts? Or are they not as open as the players would prefer


there's more to T20 than the IPL

eg CPLT20

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:35 pm

Don't let GS hear you say that

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Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:56 am

Boycs wrote:
Misty wrote:http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/1107173.html


Misty I've moved your topic into here as we are already talking about it :)


Can not read Misty's posted link?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:02 am

Boycs wrote:I thought CA is open to IPL contracts? Or are they not as open as the players would prefer


I think this is a contentious issue and could be related to this dispute. I believe CA would prefer our test boys played in England in the off season. If not then they should. Instead of our premier players chasing the big bucks on offer in the IPL.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:21 am

Boycs wrote:I thought CA is open to IPL contracts? Or are they not as open as the players would prefer

CA retains the right to deny a contracted player permission to play in any competition outside of those run by CA. It's not exercised very often, mainly occurs if CA thinks the Player needs a break. All Australian players are contracted by CA for the entire 12 months where a IPL or BBL player is only contracted for 6 weeks or so and i think you will find that all the Cricket Boards work the same way. It's one of the root causes for the Windies problems, their best players refuse to be dictated to by the Windies Board so have walked away from Windies Cricket.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:20 am

A brilliant 152* by champion skipper Meg Lanning has powered the Southern Stars to a thrashing of Sri Lanka in its World Cup pool match. In the process the Stars pulled off a record run chase to completely demoralise the Lankans who had been bouyed by a beligerent undefeated 178 by the left handed Chamari Athapathu.

The score: Sri Lanka 9-257 (Athapaththu 178no, Bolton 2-18) in 50 overs lost to Australia 2-262 (Lanning 152*, Bolton 60) by eight wickets in 43.5 overs.

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Postby Mick180461 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:18 pm

Beyond me why i can't get links to work here, have no problems elsewhere.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:52 pm

Australias Southern Stars have made it three from three World Cup wins on the trot by taking out the Kiwi Silver Ferns overnite.

Champion all rounder Ellyse Perry and left arm tweaker Jess Jonassen combined to steer the Southern Stars to the five-wicket win and remain on top in their pool.

Player of the match was a close call between the two but Perry’s gritty anchoring role(71)saw the Stars thru a tricky chase.

Support acts were skipper Meg Lanning (47) Megan Schutt 3-40 and Ashleigh Gardner (1-32), whose accurate off-spin built pressure thwarting the Kiwis and denying them easy runs in the middle stages. :dance:
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jul 02, 2017 10:52 pm

Mick180461 wrote:Beyond me why i can't get links to work here, have no problems elsewhere.

What are you trying to link Mick?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:30 pm

Australia A tour to South Africa now in jeopardy. Is it fair denying those fringe test players a chance to show their wares in the African republic? I so no it is not. :cry:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/c ... 07878.html
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:21 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:Beyond me why i can't get links to work here, have no problems elsewhere.

What are you trying to link Mick?

The same link you have posted above, tks Baggers, my links just go to a strange Crickinfo page, no matter what Server i try.
The link you have provided proves what i have been saying there will be no Bangladesh tour, no India 1 dayer tour, no Ashes unless this is sorted.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:27 am

Quite corrct Mick. Unless CA cave in within four days the A tour will be the first to be abandoned. The Ashes can not and must not be ruined by this ridiculous standoff over the way CA coffers are distributed. Mate I have no idea why you can not link. I simply cut and paste and presto. I can tho for some unknown reason not post a pic?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:05 am

lol

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:54 am

Katto wrote:lol

Thanks Baggers hopefully they will fix it soon.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jul 03, 2017 11:44 pm

FICA reaffirms its support of ACA

The Federation of International Cricketers' Association was "concerned" that the dispute between Cricket Australia and its players has been dragging on.

In a press release on Monday, executive chairman Tony Irish said, "FICA and its member associations stand shoulder to shoulder in support of the ACA and the Australian cricketers in their current dispute with their board.

As an important stakeholder in the game, players and their associations deserve to be treated with professionalism and respect.

It is in the interests of everyone in the world game that the situation in Australia is resolved quickly and in a manner that is acceptable to the players collectively."

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Verity » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:44 am

players are greedy fucks, bunch of no good assholes
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:50 am

It's difficult. The international players have a lot of benefits for playing for Australia (though they work hard for it) but the domestic players work hard and graft to provide for their families but won't ever reach that level of financial security. County cricketers here have the same issue

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:03 pm

This isn't about the international players, this is all about the domestic players.
The internationals are just working in solidarity with them.

The prospect of an ashes series featuring grade level players is quite interesting. :lol:

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Tue Jul 04, 2017 12:45 pm

Katto wrote:This isn't about the international players, this is all about the domestic players.
The internationals are just working in solidarity with them.


Yeah that's my point, the havers seem to me trying to support the plight of the have-nots

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:25 am

Average domestic men's cricketer payments to rise to A$235,000 by 2021-22, up from A$199,000 in 2016-17 under the CA proposal.
Minimum and average hourly pay will be the same for men and women domestic cricketers'
How is $199K not enuff wage for a domestic cricketer. Thats a hell of a lot more than the average Australian earns. Solidarity what solidarity? This is all about greed.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:15 am

The players are the product. Just 'cos they earn over the average wage already is completely irrelevant. Many of us if we were suitably skilled or blessed with opportunity, privilege and luck to succeed would have chosen more lucrative careers. And if sports want to do their best of nabbing and keeping the best talent, rewarding players with high salaries is a factor. Are the players proffesional cricketers or charity workers? Just because CA is a charity doesn't mean that the FC players are also.

Its funny - in the USA many basketball fans are furious that Kevin Durant accepted a contract of only ~24/25m usd a year instead of 36/37m which helps ensure GSW remain superstrong with more star players and owners with more $$$ in their pockets in a salary cap penalty era. Apparently to many fans, he's ruining the league's competitiveness by NOT seeking to maximise his salary. But when a player does and leaves or the players league strike - people say that they're greedy.

I applaud the international players standing by the domestic players and turning down more lucrative contracts to ensure better paid state players. But I will criticise both parties' counsel if a solution is not agreed upon before the Ashes. I understand both parties' views, but CA need to understand that an investment they make that brings in more revenue due to players playing - needs players rewarded. And the BBL salaries per se are not doing it - but do when combined with the higher FC and matador contracts as well.

A team of financial analysts and lawyers on each side ought to mediate this rather simply. Someones presumably being thick headed - I'm not sure whether which or both parties to blame here. TV revenue, ticket sales, fees earned from licensing at matches - percentage share the revenuecl with the players. Grass root membership revenues from clubs are player exempt. Problem solved.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:10 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Average domestic men's cricketer payments to rise to A$235,000 by 2021-22, up from A$199,000 in 2016-17 under the CA proposal.
Minimum and average hourly pay will be the same for men and women domestic cricketers'
How is $199K not enuff wage for a domestic cricketer. Thats a hell of a lot more than the average Australian earns. Solidarity what solidarity? This is all about greed.


fair point, however the question is who is getting that surplus revenue and do they deserve it any more than the players?

The other factor with sports is the career is short. After that they have to start again with a completely new career, which many are not trained up for as they've devoted their formative years to sport.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby raja » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:08 pm

BCCI also had these isssues with its players in the past. Say, in the 1990s.
It tried to impose restrictions on players, on doing ads and stuff.
Players weren't one bit happy with the rules being imposed on them.

After a standoff, BCCI realised that the players are the ones who bring in the money.
It changed its attitude completely, began pampering the players - and today it's one big happy family.

Players make loads of money, BCCI makes loads of money, fans are happy, broadcasters are happy, sponsors are happy, advertisers are happy.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:47 am

Boycs wrote:
Katto wrote:This isn't about the international players, this is all about the domestic players.
The internationals are just working in solidarity with them.


Yeah that's my point, the havers seem to me trying to support the plight of the have-nots

Everyone is a domestic player and a potential International Player and can play T20 comps outside of the Australian Season, the internationals get that $235,000 as well as their International money.