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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:37 am

Australia Under 17 stars to play in the CAX1 squad in the U19 nationals in December.

Kyle Brazell, Cricket Australia XI

Damien Burrage, Western Australia

Oliver Davies, NSW

Will Fort, NSW

Mackenzie Harvey, VIC

Josh Hoffmann, South Australia

Thomas Kelly, South Australia

Liam Marshall, NSW

Todd Murphy, VIC

Dominic O’Shannessy,ACT

Patrick Rowe, VIC

Ajay Singh, NSW

Matthew Willans, Queensland

Glenn Winsor, NSW



Under 17 National Championships Award Winners

Player of the Tournament: Kyle Brazell (CA XI from SA)

Player of the Final: Liam Scott (NSW )

Highest Run Scorer: Kyle Brazell (Cricket Australia XI) - 417 runs at 59.57

Leading Wicket Taker: Dominic O’Shannessy (ACT ) - 16 wickets at 13.63

Most Dismissals: Harry Walker (Queensland) - eight catches, two stumpings

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:25 pm

A couple of Redbacks sure bit the Blues on the bum yesterday. Weatherwald and Ross hammered some wayward bowling and the 350 score proved too big a task for the Blues to chase.

Lyon was one of the main culprits with Ross smoking him for four sixes and 32 runs off one over..Harry Conway probably bowled himself out of the side while towering youngster Mickey Edwards again impressed..as did Sean Abbott. Best I have seen him bowl.

Test discard Joe Mennie was the pick of the Redback bowlers with four scalps.

Why are they playing ODD games in Perth. Todays match starts at 2pm local time.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:03 am

Big John "The Duke" Hastings a has played his last ODI and Shield game. He says the recent injuries have taken their toll and he will only play T20 from now on.

Sydney-born Hastings played 75 first-class games for the Bushrangers collecting 138 wcts @ 24.75 and celebrated a JLT Sheffield Shield final win in 2009-10. He also played 29 ODIs and a solitary Test taking just the one wicket. Many will argue he got a bad deal and should have been persevered with. The Duke will turn out for The Stars in this year's BBL and is still elligible for Australia's T20 side..

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:20 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Australia Under 17 stars to play in the CAX1 squad in the U19 nationals in December.

Kyle Brazell, Cricket Australia XI

Damien Burrage, Western Australia

Oliver Davies, NSW

Will Fort, NSW

Mackenzie Harvey, VIC

Josh Hoffmann, South Australia

Thomas Kelly, South Australia

Liam Marshall, NSW

Todd Murphy, VIC

Dominic O’Shannessy,ACT

Patrick Rowe, VIC

Ajay Singh, NSW

Matthew Willans, Queensland

Glenn Winsor, NSW



Under 17 National Championships Award Winners

Player of the Tournament: Kyle Brazell (CA XI from SA)

Player of the Final: Liam Scott (NSW )

Highest Run Scorer: Kyle Brazell (Cricket Australia XI) - 417 runs at 59.57

Leading Wicket Taker: Dominic O’Shannessy (ACT ) - 16 wickets at 13.63

Most Dismissals: Harry Walker (Queensland) - eight catches, two stumpings

You won't miss Willens 16yo and 203cm (6'8-6'9) could hit 7.0' before he finishes growing. Davies looked classy in the final.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:42 am

I was going to say something similar about Willans. Astounding size for a 16 year old. Sounded like a well spoken young man in an interview too. Looking forward to watching he and Davies pitting themselves against the older boys in December.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:58 am

Jason Sangha has scored his maiden NSW Premier Cricket century. No younger player has scored more runs (162#) while making their debut century.

The classy teen right hander guided Randwick/Petersham to overhaul the 344 to defeat Mosman. His knock which encompassed 25 fours and 2 sixes was similar in importance to that which he scored in his international debut for the Under 19s in Dubai two years ago. You could now say the kid is on his way.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Boycs » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:04 am

I’ve just seen Nic Maddison’s unfortunate moustache

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Bhumin » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:14 am

Baggygreen

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/conten ... 82925.html

3 players. In list above scored DBL ON DEBUT , I sorts this out because someone hits 203 today in India ABHISHEK GUPTA ( keeper) on debut

NSW's Calleways 207 on debut was his only innings in First Class cricket in 1914 because he was killed in action in France in 1917

Loxton's 232 not out Highest debutant score not Sangha's 162 or so.i think Late Callaway was from NSW.
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NZ batted 27 overs for their 26 (WR in Tests) all out in 1955

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Bhumin » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:57 am

NSW's Ian Craig become Australia's test captain at the age of 22.He debut for NSW at the age of 16. Next year at the age of 17 and 239 days he Hits unbeaten 213 vs Touring Southafrica.

http://www.premier.nsw.cricket.com.au/c ... nghof.aspx above for 2017/18 but I still thinks someone must hits more on début than JS.
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NZ batted 27 overs for their 26 (WR in Tests) all out in 1955

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:30 am

Bhumin wrote:Baggygreen

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/conten ... 82925.html

3 players. In list above scored DBL ON DEBUT IN SHEFIELD SHIELDS , I sorts this out because someone hits 203 today in India ABHISHEK GUPTA ( keeper) on debut

NSW's Calleways 207 on debut was his only innings in First Class cricket in 1914 because he was killed in action in France in 1917

Loxton's 232 not out Highest debutant score not Sangha's 162 or so.i think Late Callaway was from NSW.

Baggygreen was referring to the NSW Premier League not the Sheffield Shield. The Premier League is a Club competition centred on Sydney from which the NSW Shield squads are selected, it is the level below the Sheffield Shield and to a degree the Futures League.
You need to make sure of your facts before you try to shoot someone down.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:30 am

Sean Marsh leads the batting stakes while Joe Mennie is the best of the bowlers at the half way point of the JLT Cup.

Player Mat Runs HS Ave 100 50
S Marsh 4 351 132* 117.00 1 3
(Western Australia)
Maddinson 4 284 137 71.00 2 0
(New South Wales)
D Hughes 4 254 105 63.50 1 2
(New South Wales)

Player Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ S/R 4 5
JM Mennie 4 4 39.5 2 170 10 5/36 17.00 4.26 23.9 1 1
(South Australia)
SA Abbott 4 4 36.2 1 211 10 3/29 21.10 5.80 21.8 0 0
(New South Wales)
CP Tremain 5 5 42.0 2 233 9 3/50 25.88 5.54 28.0 0 0

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:38 am

A Test championship and an One Day International League have been anounced by the ICC with the Test series to begin in 2019 after the World Cup.

Nine teams will play six series of Test matches over a two-year period - three at home and three away - culminating in a world Test championship final.

There will be a minimum of two matches in each series - all of which will be scheduled to last five days - but can be expanded to five for series such as the Ashes.

The top two teams by April 2021 will then play in a championship final in England.

Ireland, Zimbabwe and Afghanistan would initially be excluded from the Test championship but the introduction of four-day series would give them more Test experience.

A 13-team ODI league, introduced from 2021, will now be used to qualify for the World Cup.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:58 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:A Test championship and an One Day International League have been anounced by the ICC with the Test series to begin in 2019 after the World Cup.

Nine teams will play six series of Test matches over a two-year period - three at home and three away - culminating in a world Test championship final.

There will be a minimum of two matches in each series - all of which will be scheduled to last five days - but can be expanded to five for series such as the Ashes.

The top two teams by April 2021 will then play in a championship final in England.

Ireland, Zimbabwe and Afghanistan would initially be excluded from the Test championship but the introduction of four-day series would give them more Test experience.

A 13-team ODI league, introduced from 2021, will now be used to qualify for the World Cup.

By far the best idea I've heard of yet to get interest back into Test Cricket.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:05 am

]By far the best idea I've heard of yet to get interest back into Test Cricke[/quote]

I was not aware Test cricket needed resucitation Mick. Not in this country anyway. Interest drops off when a lesser side tours. I for one always enjoy watching the Baggy Greens wallop allcomers.

Gotta say a kick in the teeth for the newly introduced Test countries in Ireland and Afghanistran. After two years finding their feet in Test cricket they will be told see ya later you are not part of the Test Championship.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:18 am

The big thing that has come out of the 50 over JLT Cup is the number of batsman who are in the running for a test spot and in form.
Mitchell Marsh 258@129 sr 115(not currently bowling but is WA Captain and they are 4&1)
Shaun Marsh 380@95 sr 88
Cam Bancroft 189@47 sr 109
Nic Maddinson 398@66 sr 96
Daniel Hughes 379@63 sr 90
Kurtis Patterson 248@41 sr 85
Usman Khawaja 339@67 sr 96
Callum Ferguson 316@52 sr 99
Mathew Way 89@42 sr 139
Peter Handscomb 172@57 sr 121
George Bailey is also in great form but i can't see him in the running for a test spot.
3 players who would probably liked a few more runs are Peter Nevell, Alex Carey and Mat Renshaw.. Hilton Cartwright has only batted once in 3 matches for 5*.
Obviously they will all need to carry over form into the Shield but its a great start to the season.

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Postby Mick180461 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:23 am

baggygreenmania wrote:]By far the best idea I've heard of yet to get interest back into Test Cricke


I was not aware Test cricket needed resucitation Mick. Not in this country anyway. Interest drops off when a lesser side tours. I for one always enjoy watching the Baggy Greens wallop allcomers.

Gotta say a kick in the teeth for the newly introduced Test countries in Ireland and Afghanistran. After two years finding their feet in Test cricket they will be told see ya later you are not part of the Test Championship.[/quote]
Not in Australia, England or India but it certainly does everywhere else except maybe Bangladesh. This champioship will not preclude teams playing tests against Ireland & Afghanistan, they just won't count towards the Test championship. And in 5 test series only 3 will count towards the test champioship.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:28 am

This champioship will not preclude teams playing tests against Ireland & Afghanistan, they just won't count towards the Test championship.

As I say a kick in the teeth. How long has Ireland waited for Test status? She will feel like poor cousins.. hanging around for the family inheritance scraps.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:37 am

Obviously they will all need to carry over form into the Shield but its a great start to the season.[/quote]

Yes limited overs runs should play no part in Test selection Mick. I have seen two standout top shelp knocks this tournament..Cameron White (165) and Callum Ferguson (169). Both were composed and measured the type of batting needed in red ball cricket.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:00 pm

A few handy players back for the JLT Cup finals Victoria have Maxwell, Finch & Christian, Redbacks Head, Richardson and Zampa and WA after already having made the final have Stoinis, Behrendorf & Coulter-Nile to fit back in. Nice problems to have.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:16 am

You around Mick. Southern Stars will feel the loss of the worlds best women cricketer in Meg Lanning. Can we take out the Ashes without her?

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Postby Mick180461 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:12 am

We can but it definitely makes it harder, a few players will need to step up.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:18 am

Team performance chief Pat Howard has put batsmen on notice that #6 in the Ashes batting order will be decided by their performances in Shield rounds over the next month.

The search for a more stable middle order is key to Australia's chances this summer, after a debilitating build-up of collapses over the past two years that has placed undue pressure on Smith, David Warner and Usman Khawaja to make runs at every opportunity or risk the rest falling away.

Those to battle it out in the first three rounds for the crucial #6 spot will be Hilton Cartwright, Glenn Maxwell, Marcus Stoinis, Shaun Marsh, Mitch Marsh. I would add Cameron Bancroft to that list even tho I consider him a future Test opener.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:20 am

Mick180461 wrote:We can but it definitely makes it harder, a few players will need to step up.
Good start to the Ashes by our girls yesterday. Veteran Alex Blackwell was the anchor along with a fine all round performance by the exciting youngster Ashleigh Gardner.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:37 am

Ed Cowan has to be a bit stiff, leading run scorer in the Shield last year but with Smith & Warner both available there is no room for him.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:53 am

Re Cowan: That is very harsh. I can only imagine that the National selectors do not have the eyes on him for a comeback at all and want to see further NSW talent on display. Or do NSW not rate him ahead of the batting pool besides Smith and Warner?
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:17 am

Paddles wrote:Re Cowan: That is very harsh. I can only imagine that the National selectors do not have the eyes on him for a comeback at all and want to see further NSW talent on display. Or do NSW not rate him ahead of the batting pool besides Smith and Warner?


Agree a kick in the teeth for Ed but when you take stock of things the only other bloke to make way for Smith and other Test boys is Daniel Hughes and he has been in terrific form in the ODDs. Whereas Ed has had a quiet start to the season.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:19 am

Paddles Trent Boult looked super against the Indians last nite. Swinging the ball at pace and got some good lift from the deck. Expect a deck more suited to turn next game tho.

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Postby Mick180461 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:21 am

Henriques may be a bit lucky to be playing in front of Cowan

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:16 am

Moie was the skipper before he got injured last season. Not sure if he is again this season.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:14 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Paddles Trent Boult looked super against the Indians last nite. Swinging the ball at pace and got some good lift from the deck. Expect a deck more suited to turn next game tho.


Yeah - on the flip side if Boult is getting swing there's no excuse for Southee not too. Milne was bowling 130s - I have never seen him bowl so slow. So there's room for improvement there. I expect one of these two to make way for Sodhi on a bunsen burner. Matt Henry may also get a run at some point if these two don't find their mojo.

We still need a Starc, Malinga, Bunrah, Mustafizur closer to close out and support Boult. Southee must have lost his yorker cos he's not even trying to bowl it and Milne's not really an ideal canditate to even try with his sudden drop in pace issues. He has more to work on already. I did not enjoy Milne and Southee's lollipop bouncers - ball just stoox up to be smashed.

Funny thing I did notice is that Santner gets much more (deserving) love from Indian cricinfo journalists (befoe the match) and commentators than he does from the Sky team at home. They've worked out how economical he is - whereas idiots like Doull think the entire game every game is about taking spectacular 'ball of century' wickets and bowling 5 best bowlers to take wickets, even if they're not guns of Akram quality. Maybe he thinks he should have played more odis himself.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:23 pm

Paddles wrote:Re Cowan: That is very harsh. I can only imagine that the National selectors do not have the eyes on him for a comeback at all and want to see further NSW talent on display.


Yeah it is this. From Steve Smith tho

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21133895/steven-smith-takes-responsibility-ed-cowan-call
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:56 pm

:dance: The first round of the 2017/18 Shield kicks off today with a series of day/niters. Firstly The Bushies and Bulls get the ball rolling at the Gabba while the Tigers tackle the Warriors at the WACA in the second pink ball match. The third pinkie is between the Blues and the Redbacks at Adelaide Oval tomorrow.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... ball-debut

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Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:13 pm

baggygreenmania wrote::dance: The first round of the 2017/18 Shield kicks off today with a series of day/niters. Firstly The Bushies and Bulls get the ball rolling at the Gabba while the Tigers tackle the Warriors at the WACA in the second pink ball match. The third pinkie is between the Blues and the Redbacks at Adelaide Oval tomorrow.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... ball-debut


You getting any tv coverage of these pinky games BGM?

Surely they'd out rate the basketball?

I can get the FTA networks not wanting to load up their prime time with lower ranking FC cricket as against BBL and internationals, but it amazes me how slack pay tv is. They'd rather just show some American sports they get for nix or repeat major weekend events than send a film crew down to film some live cricket.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:51 pm

Live stream on CA website. No actual tv coverage tho. Baggers please Paddles.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:49 am

I am watching Sixers rookie Jack Edwards take apart a Lahore,Pakistan side . Not easy to imagine this kid is still 17. The timing and power he has is a joy to watch.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 1:52 am

Lucky thing that the matches don't start till Lunch time Baggers, can't have you getting out of bed before 11.00am

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:36 am

Mick180461 wrote:Lucky thing that the matches don't start till Lunch time Baggers, can't have you getting out of bed before 11.00am
Ha ha Mick. I wake between 8-9 every day. So waiting till mid arvo for red ball cricket is excruciating.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:01 am

The Banana Benders are batting ist so it will be Renshaw, Burns and Khawaja v Siddle & Tremain 1st up. Weather in Brisy is brilliant, not a cloud in the Sky.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:09 am

Great commentarry from the Gabba :wtf:
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:20 am

Took the QCA and WACA two years to get a decent video coverage. No chance then with audio too. Pearler from Chris Tremain is too good for Joe Burns..
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:28 am

Sidds is looking sharp too, haven't written him off yet for the test 12.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:34 am

Mick180461 wrote:Sidds is looking sharp too, haven't written him off yet for the test 12.
Bit of the green stuff on the Gabba surface. Did you get my PM this morning.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:36 am

Siddle is now way down the pecking order. If he gets picked ahead of Sayers, Bird or Tremain then there should be an outcry over it. Behrendorff is my pick to replace Pattinson for the fourth seamers spot.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:39 am

There is some microphone disturbance.. perhaps trying to set up commentary.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:55 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Siddle is now way down the pecking order. If he gets picked ahead of Sayers, Bird or Tremain then there should be an outcry over it. Behrendorff is my pick to replace Pattinson for the fourth seamers spot.

Bird is currently injured isn't he, yea agree Behrendorf the Coulter-Nile are probably behind the big 3 but not sure Tremain is in front of Siddle.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:10 am

I wouldn't be surprised if Behrendorf plays in Adelaide unless his shield form falls apart.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Oct 28, 2017 2:50 am

Trent Copeland showed again yesterday why he should not continue to be overlooked for national honors with a sixfer for the Blues in the opening pinkie at Adelaide Oval..

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:52 pm

Wins to the Blues, Warriors and Bulls in the first round of the Shield. Ball clearly dominated bat specially in the twilight hours when the artificial lite takes over.