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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby raja » Mon May 28, 2018 11:03 am

I thought Ben Cutting did ok.
Dan Christian was almost an apology, using up a valuable overseas player's spot.
Hardly noticed Laughlin.

LOL at the above piece saying D'Arcy Short has loads of talent.

What do you guys think of him? I was singularly unimpressed.
Ofc, I could be wrong. I'd never even heard of him before the IPL auction. :-)

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby bolero » Mon May 28, 2018 12:29 pm

D'Arcy Short was poor.

Watson's innings in final was one of those Gayle like innings where he blows apart the opposition.

I guess SRH missed a trick. Watson struggles against quality leg spinners like Mishra, I dont know if they had one in their side. They could have tried out Shakib against Watson, worth a try.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby raja » Mon May 28, 2018 1:21 pm

They had Rashid.
Of his 24 deliveries, 10 were to Watson.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Mon May 28, 2018 1:23 pm

bolero wrote:CHENNAI SUPER KINGS
Shane Watson
Matches: 15

Runs: 555 at an average of 39.6

100/50: 2/2

High score: 117*

Strike rate: 154.6

Wickets: 6 at an average of 41

Economy rate: 9

Best bowling: 1/16

Arguably Australia’s most damaging representative and, disappointingly, not on the radar for international selection having announced his retirement last year. Batting with a strained hamstring, Watson smashed a match-winning hundred in the final, breaking the record for the highest individual score in an IPL decider.

DELHI DAREDEVILS
Glenn Maxwell
Matches: 12

Runs: 169 at an average of 14.1

100/50: 0/0

High score: 47

Strike rate: 140.8

Wickets: 5 at 26.4

Economy rate: 8.25

Best bowling: 2/22

Paid millions to be there and flopped to the point where he was dropped for the back end of the tournament. Was down on last year in nearly every statistical category. Should benefit from a change of format and will likely feature in Langer’s first team.

Dan Christian
Matches: 4

Runs: 26 at an average of 13

100/50: 0/0

High score: 13

Strike rate: 78.8

Wickets: 4 at an average of 25.3

Economy rate: 8.5

Best bowling: 2/10

Did his bit with the ball when called upon but featured primarily as a depth player. Seems to have lost his explosiveness at the crease, hitting just one boundary in three innings.

KOLKATA KNIGHT RIDERS
Chris Lynn
Matches: 16

Runs: 491 at an average of 32.7

100/50: 0/3

High score: 74

Strike rate: 130.2

Had a disappointing tournament, which is testament to Lynn’s freakish ability. Endured a shoulder injury and, at times, batted within himself while opening partner Sunil Narine teed off. That notwithstanding, it’s still strange he wasn’t selected in Australia’s ODI or T20I squads.

Mitchell Johnson
Matches: 6

Wickets: 2 at an average of 108.

Economy rate: 10.3

Best bowling: 1/30

Ouch. Looked short a yard of pace and seemed affected by an extended period on the sidelines. Wasn’t helped by KKR’s roster of strong international talent.

KING’S XI PUNJAB
Aaron Finch
Matches: 10

Runs: 134 at an average of 16.8

100/50: 0/0

High score: 46

Strike rate: 134

A disappointing tournament from Finch, who managed just 14 boundaries – six fours and eight sixes – in his 10 innings. Stands as one of the more senior figures in Australia’s ODI set up and will need to regain form soon.

Marcus Stoinis
Matches: 7

Runs: 99 at an average of 24.8

100/50: 0/0

High score: 29*

Strike rate: 130.7

Wickets: 3 at an average of 40

Economy rate: 10.9

Best bowling: 1/15

Was restricted by a shoulder injury and showed only glimpses when fit. Is fully recovered now and training with the national squad in Queensland.

Andrew Tye
Matches: 14

Wickets: 24 at an average of 18.7

Economy rate: 7.6

Best bowling: 5/17

Arguably Australia’s best import – perhaps alongside Watson – and has done everything he can to hold his place in Australia’s ODI pace attack. Claimed the purple cap as the competition’s leading wicket-taker, bagging four wickets or more on four occasions.

Ben Dwarshuis
Dwashuis didn’t manage a game for Kings XI but is on the radar of Australia’s selectors and will be better for the experience. Was selected in the national T20 squad at the end of last year but spent that tournament carrying the drinks as well.

MUMBAI INDIANS
Ben Cutting
Matches: 9

Runs: 96 at an average of 24

100/50: 0/0

High score: 37

Strike rate: 165.5

Wickets: 2 at an average of 84

Economy rate: 9.9

Best bowling: 1/12

Once near the front of the queue for a Test berth as a pace bowler, Cutting now provides more value as a power-hitting batsman. Hit a few long balls for Rajasthan and nearly pulled off an impossible comeback against Delhi with a blinding 37.

RAJASTHAN ROYALS
D’Arcy Short
Matches: 7

Runs: 115

100/50: 0/0

High score: 44 at an average of 16.42

Strike rate: 116.16

Wickets: 1 at an average of 19

Economy rate: 6.33

Is expected to open the batting in England with Aaron Finch, despite a modest tournament. Let’s put this one down as a learning experience. Still new to the international scene and has bags of talent.

Ben Laughlin
Matches: 7

Wickets: 9 at an average of 23.4

Economy rate: 10

Best bowling: 2/15

Played well when called upon, which wasn’t often. Was reportedly close to a surprise call-up for Australia’s T20I squad last year, but missed out.

ROYAL CHALLENGERS BANGALORE
No Australian players featured on RCB’s roster.

SUNRISERS HYDERABAD
Billy Stanlake
Matches: 4

Wickets: 5 at an average of 26

Economy rate: 8.1

Best bowling: 2/21

Didn’t get a heap of airtime but played well enough when on the park. Flew home in April with a finger injury but should be fit to face England.

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not many first choice Aussies in the tournament anyway

I don't know how Dan Christian keeps getting contracts, he's not even a good player domestically

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby bolero » Mon May 28, 2018 1:26 pm

raja wrote:They had Rashid.
Of his 24 deliveries, 10 were to Watson.


Yeah, CSK basically played out Rashid and Bhuvaneshwar Kumar, they ensured they were not given wickets and went after the rest.

Smart strategy.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby bolero » Mon May 28, 2018 1:29 pm

Warner was missed badly. He is superb in this format. The Aussies werent as represented as they normally are in IPL.

Cutting was good.

Jofra Archer of West Indies was really fast, clocked close to 150 kmph.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue May 29, 2018 1:30 am

Aussies will go to England without all three of their Test attack. Josh Hazlewood has been pulled from our ODI squad with back trouble. CA says it is more precautionary and is not stress fractures .. something that floored the quality seamer when he was 20. Little is being written why Pat Cummins has also not made the squad. Hazlewood will be replaced by Bulls bowling all rounder Michael Neser. This will no doubt please parochial Qlder Mike.. but I have to question Neser's inclusion given he averages @36 in domestic List A.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue May 29, 2018 1:39 am

John Hastings will return to his roots after signing a one-year deal with the Sydney Sixers.

In the wake of a last-placed finish in BBL|07 for the Melbourne stars, the fast bowler has decided it is time to head back to where he grew up.

"It is nice to be back in Sydney actually, it brought back a lot of nice memories walking through that NSW cricket office," Hastings said.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby raja » Tue May 29, 2018 9:33 am

What do you guys think of D'Arcy Short?
He was a flop in the IPL (to be fair to him, he got run out a couple of times) - but even otherwise I wasn't impressed.
Of course, it could be put down to learning.
He's still very young, first tour of India - not used to conditions.
I remember how horrible Punter was early in his career in India.

So you think Short could be a long-term prospect for Australia? In limited-overs at least?

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Postby Going South » Tue May 29, 2018 2:39 pm

we don’t want any “unfit” Shorts in T20. Appreciate if you take him away from T20 and play him ONLY in test cricket.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue May 29, 2018 11:36 pm

Mitch Marsh is well and truly on the radar for future Test captaincy after being named to skipper the Aussie A side to India. Marsh leads a 14-man squad packed with talented young guns.. Alex Carey (vc), Ashton Agar, Kurtis Patterson, Mitch Swepson, Jack Wildermuth, Joel Paris, Matthew Renshaw, Marnus Labuchagne . Providing the experience will be Usman Khawaja, Michael Neser Chris Tremain and John Holland.

Joel Paris is a surprise as is Brendon Doggett.

Where is Joe Burns or has he cemented his spot in the First X1? How does Handscomb make the red ball squad..any national squad for that matter. The man is a walking wicket. Jake Weatherald is desperately unlucky. So who will open the innings with Renshaw in the red ball games?

Sorry the selectors have not found room for Jake Winter. The Canberra leftie now has only this summer's Shield to further push his claims for the 2019 Ashes. Very pleased Chris Tremain finally makes an overseas squad and he should lead the attack. The Dubbo- born quick impressed in an home A series two years ago but has since been ignored despite two impressive seasons on the trot. His omission could m no longer be denied after he topped the wicket tally in last summers Shield.

Perennial Blues kicker Mike should be tickled pink that 8 of his Bulls made the cut while only Kurtis Patterson is the solitary selection from south of the border. Shows you how much New South has fallen behind over recent years due to its policy of hanging onto dead wood and not giving youth a fair go...

On the whole this new look squad is reward for strong Shield and ODD form.

Australia A four-day squad: Mitchell Marsh (c), Alex Carey (vc), Ashton Agar, Brendan Doggett, Peter Handscomb, Travis Head, Jon Holland, Usman Khawaja, Michael Neser, Joel Paris, Kurtis Patterson, Matthew Renshaw, Mitch Swepson, Chris Tremain

Australia A one-day squad: Travis Head (c), Alex Carey (vc), Ashton Agar, Peter Handscomb, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Michael Neser, Matthew Renshaw, Jhye Richardson, D’Arcy Short, Billy Stanlake, Mitch Swepson, Chris Tremain, Jack Wildermuth.



Tour schedule

One-Day fixtures - Vijayawada

17 August v India A

19 August v South Africa A

23 August v India A

25 August v South Africa A

29 August – Tri-Series Final

Four-Day fixtures - Vizag

2 – 5 September v India A

8 – 11 September v India A

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Wed May 30, 2018 7:41 am

:oops: insanity

Adam Gilchrist reveals Justin Langer’s ‘marry test’ for players
AUSTRALIA
May 30, 2018 12:03pm
by JACOB POLYCHRONIS
Source: FOX SPORTS
Adam Gilchrist has revealed Justin Langer’s bizarre new selection criteria.

Source: News Corp Australia
LEGEND wicketkeeper-batsman Adam Gilchrist has revealed the bizarre rule Justin Langer has implemented as part of his culture overhaul of the Australian cricket team.

The Fox Sports commentator said Langer’s players need to prove to the coach that they are worthy of marrying one of his daughters.

Gilchrist made the revelation on Back Page Live on Tuesday night after Langer set the standard for his players during a pre-England tour camp in Brisbane on the weekend.

“Langer, as you’ve heard, wants honesty and humility,” Gilchrist said.

“Actually, I’ve heard him say he wants his players to be good enough blokes that he would consider allowing them to marry his daughters.

“He’s got four daughters - so that’s the selection process going on.”

Despite the intense scrutiny Australia’s behaviour will come under in the team’s first series since the ball-tampering saga, Gilchrist said he expects the side will continue to sledge.

Langer spoke to players and coaches in Brisbane on Saturday and made it clear that banter is fine, but personal abuse won’t be tolerated.

“Get it clear from day one,’’ Langer said.

“We have to aim to be No. 1 in professionalism, No. 1 in honesty and humility.

“It does not matter how many runs you score. If you are not a good bloke, that is what people remember.

Langer: 'We've got our way'Langer: 'We've got our way'0:50
“Our mateship is really important. Sticking together.’’

Australia’s first test under the Langer era will come next month in England, where the new coach said he expects his team to be relentlessly sledged by the press.

But Langer said the abuse is part of the job and that his players shouldn’t be fazed by it.

“We are expecting plenty from the crowds and the media but that is England. When you are winning all the time and you are squeaky clean you still cop it,” he said.

“We will cop it just as much as usual. That is OK. It will be a good experience for our younger guys.”
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Wed May 30, 2018 8:36 am

raja wrote:What do you guys think of D'Arcy Short?
He was a flop in the IPL (to be fair to him, he got run out a couple of times) - but even otherwise I wasn't impressed.
Of course, it could be put down to learning.
He's still very young, first tour of India - not used to conditions.
I remember how horrible Punter was early in his career in India.

So you think Short could be a long-term prospect for Australia? In limited-overs at least?


Darcy Short had a brilliant BBL breakthrough last summer.

Got into Aus t20i.

Iirc there was a game vs NZ where he was down right awful to begin. Slow, streaky, bog ordinary. He was all at sea. But he didn't get out. He got better. And he ultimately played a huge hand in winning the game.

Give him time to find his feet. The verdict is not out from me yet on him.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Going South » Wed May 30, 2018 2:18 pm

BBL is very average compared to IPL on player skills & competitive nature. I doubt he can be successful in international T20s.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu May 31, 2018 1:29 am

Really katto. Missed that Back Page edition. Is Langer for real or is that a tongue firmly planted in cheek statement?

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Postby baggygreenmania » Thu May 31, 2018 1:31 am

there was a game vs NZ where he was down right awful to begin. Slow, streaky, bog ordinary. He was all at sea. But he didn't get out. He got better. And he ultimately played a huge hand in winning the game.

CA has placed a lot of faith in Short on the strength of his BBL performances. Hope that is not misplaced faith. Last thing Australian T20/ODI needs is another Glenn Maxwell..all show and little substance.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu May 31, 2018 1:55 am

Seems Joe Burns has not cemented his place in the Test team as the scribes are questioning why he was ommited from the A team to India. Burns has struck me as a talented strokemaker but with a dicey technique that has him knicking off far too often. Of his 14 tests he has been snaffled off the bat on 15 occasions. His average of @36 tells me he does not spend a lot of time at the crease.. so does not value his wicket with the passion needed by a Test top order man.

With Burns on the outer.. a huge chance for Matthew Renshaw, Travis Head and uncapped Kurtis Patterson to stake their claims for a berth against Pakistan in October. Evidently Shaun Marsh has already been penciled in for that series given his fine record against spin on the Sub Continent... surely the most important criteria for touring these parts.

I have seen a lot of Head and Patterson and neither are totally proficient players of spin. Capable at best. Usman Khawaja's selection is a bit of a head scratcher as he looks a walking wicket the moment he faces up to spin. Only reason I can see for his selection is that he can dismiss even the best spinner with class once he spends some time at the crease and gains confidence. It is the first 30 balls that are Ussie's biggest concern.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Thu May 31, 2018 4:02 am

I don't think there's a single player in the Australian squad in a post Steve Smith world who is a totally proficient player of spin.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu May 31, 2018 4:24 am

Katto wrote:I don't think there's a single player in the Australian squad in a post Steve Smith world who is a totally proficient player of spin.
Tend to agree mate. There is amongst the next gen.. a direct result of the CA Pathway program which ensures regular trips to the Sub Continent to study and play. So I am confident of an improvement going forward.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Thu May 31, 2018 6:00 am

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Katto wrote:I don't think there's a single player in the Australian squad in a post Steve Smith world who is a totally proficient player of spin.
Tend to agree mate. There is amongst the next gen.. a direct result of the CA Pathway program which ensures regular trips to the Sub Continent to study and play. So I am confident of an improvement going forward.


You keep saying this but it reminds me of the same national curriculum pathway they put in place for soccer. They told us 13 years ago, wait for this next generation they're going to be sooo good because they've gone through the new improved national system. Well we've now seen the results and they're not pretty at all. The game has gone backwards and no talent coming through at all. Centralisation and national curriculums tend to kill innovation, creativity and natural talent while ignoring players who cant afford to go via those channels.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby bolero » Thu May 31, 2018 4:15 pm

Katto wrote:I don't think there's a single player in the Australian squad in a post Steve Smith world who is a totally proficient player of spin.


Agree

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Going South » Thu May 31, 2018 4:22 pm

warner can play spin.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:00 am

Going South wrote:BBL is very average compared to IPL on player skills & competitive nature. I doubt he can be successful in international T20s.


Well given he is averaging 49 at 149 in T20i after 5 games with 2 50's (incl one in a final)

2 games vs England averages 66
3 games vs NZ (then #1 in t20i), 43.33 at 166.66 (and NZ were playing a Santner and Sodhi double)

it appears that he certainly has already been successful in international t20 and has made runs against some of the best t20 spinners in the world.

I think that the guy is quite possibly still finding his way in the sub continent as against Australia and NZ pitches.

But on the basis of 6 IPL games where he struggled vs 1 succeeded in, and his BBL and T20i career, I don't think the writing is on the wall for him either way just yet.

It would be like looking at Martin Guptil play and fail in the IPL and stating he will not make as an limited overs international cricketer, when he surprisingly is actually one of the best in the world at limited overs cricket including t20i. He just failed miserably at the IPL and in India in general really.

There's more pitches, more climates, the IPL is not the whole world.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Going South » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:32 am

2 matches? lol. very small sample compared MANY IPL matches! Also, when was it again when last played in internationals? huh!

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:14 am

Going South wrote:2 matches? lol. very small sample compared MANY IPL matches! Also, when was it again when last played in internationals? huh!



Count again.

2+3 = 5 :P

They were all this year.

7 IPL games, 6 bad days, 1 good day.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:13 am

further to my point, we've been sending kids to India for years and we see no improvement..in fact they're getting worse

why? because we're sending pampered kids not kids with natural talent. these kids don't have the right mentality, you can give them all the opportunities you want but if the mentality and application isn't there its wasted.

and talent isn't some physical prowess either, its a frame of mind that you either have or you don't - a frame of mind to be OCD about one skillset and devote your whole life to it (this is why most of the world's best sports stars are boring interviews)

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:18 am

Katto wrote:further to my point, we've been sending kids to India for years and we see no improvement..in fact they're getting worse

why? because we're sending pampered kids not kids with natural talent. these kids don't have the right mentality, you can give them all the opportunities you want but if the mentality and application isn't there its wasted.

and talent isn't some physical prowess either, its a frame of mind that you either have or you don't - a frame of mind to be OCD about one skillset and devote your whole life to it (this is why most of the world's best sports stars are boring interviews)

I want to disagree, but the truth is that I understand your sentiment which is really talent + effort = results. And if I give you this generosity, you're right. And I agree with this. KW said talent is hitting the ball in the middle of the bat, effort is choosing the right shots at high percentages. And if we're honest, this makes sense for every single player. I don't know the mix for the best player, nor does KW, but I know what you're really saying.

And its not wrong.

So I won't be disagreeing.

There is a mental element and effort or OCD as Katto says to improvement that operates with the talent variable independently. Both are needed for results. The mix is debated or player specific. But talent with no effort loses to talent-less effort quite often.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Going South » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:26 pm

Paddles wrote:
Going South wrote:2 matches? lol. very small sample compared MANY IPL matches! Also, when was it again when last played in internationals? huh!



Count again.

2+3 = 5 :P

They were all this year.

7 IPL games, 6 bad days, 1 good day.

still a very small sample to decide.

it’s a hit or miss.

I rate recent IPL success more than international T20 success that teams play once in a blue moon single T20 match, many many months ago.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:53 am

further to my point, we've been sending kids to India for years and we see no improvement..in fact they're getting worse

why? because we're sending pampered kids not kids with natural talent. these kids don't have the right mentality, you can give them all the opportunities you want but if the mentality and application isn't there its wasted.

Where is your proof.. pure speculation.

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Postby Katto » Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:49 am

baggygreenmania wrote:further to my point, we've been sending kids to India for years and we see no improvement..in fact they're getting worse

why? because we're sending pampered kids not kids with natural talent. these kids don't have the right mentality, you can give them all the opportunities you want but if the mentality and application isn't there its wasted.

Where is your proof.. pure speculation.


we have the last decade as proof

where is your proof the next generation is going to be any better than the current?

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Postby Going South » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:03 am

Oh. Looking at the history, I doubt next generation of Australian cricketers are going to be any good. You can see the slow death starting with Border’s retirement.

Gone are the GOLDEN DAYS of Australian cricket where they are THE BEST cricket team in all formats.

Brace the fact that “test cricket is on its deathbed” and accept to live with T20 cricket from clubs.

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Postby Paddles » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:32 am

Border's retirement?

Like before Punter and Gilly even debut'd?

Oh dear oh dear.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:23 pm

Katto wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:further to my point, we've been sending kids to India for years and we see no improvement..in fact they're getting worse

why? because we're sending pampered kids not kids with natural talent. these kids don't have the right mentality, you can give them all the opportunities you want but if the mentality and application isn't there its wasted.

Where is your proof.. pure speculation.


we have the last decade as proof

where is your proof the next generation is going to be any better than the current?
I am talking about our best 16 yr olds that get to play in a local Indian or Sri Lankan junior comp every year as part of the recently introduced lower tier of the Pathway Program. We will see the fruits of their labor and CA's vision in years to come.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:09 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:
we have the last decade as proof

where is your proof the next generation is going to be any better than the current?
I am talking about our best 16 yr olds that get to play in a local Indian or Sri Lankan junior comp every year as part of the recently introduced lower tier of the Pathway Program. We will see the fruits of their labor and CA's vision in years to come.


There is no proof of that. This is just hope and I'll put it to you these pathway programs never improve international performances because only a select few are chosen and there is no way of knowing these 16 year olds are going to be any good as adults. I gave you the example of soccer as being a parallel template as to why national programs fail.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:49 pm

http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australi ... 2018-06-02

The Aust.Indigenous XI have made the perfect start to their 150-year anniversary commemorations with back-to-back wins over the Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) in their double-header on Tuesday at Arundel Castle.

Indigenous XI Tour of England - Men's, Match 1
Arundel Castle, Arundel
5 June 2018

Indigenous XI win by 6 wickets

MCC
20.0 3-147

AXI
4-148 19.2

Match 2
Arundel Castle, Arundel
5 June

Indigenous XI win by 21 runs

MCC
19.3 129

AXI
8-150 20.0
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Departing CEO says Cape Town saga had no bearing on his decision to resign after 17 years in the top job.

Yeh sure it didnt James.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:57 am

Australia Test opener Matt Renshaw has posted his third County ton for Somerset.

Renshaw's 106 was the centrepiece of Somerset's 7-307 on the opening day of their match at home to First Division ladder-leaders Nottinghamshire on Saturday. The classy southpaw has 411 @58 from just 8 innings.

Somerset need to make the most of the Aussie as he leaves the county in August for the Australia A tour to India.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:55 am

I guess when they say Warner is the best odi and t20 player of the last 10 years they mean Australian, or this is the most ultimate slight on ABdV's retirement that I have seen yet.

Even then is - is he?

Shane Watto has been damn impressive for Australia in this period. Starc more than useful.

It is a bold claim. (My money's really on Watto).

Good luck Davey. Unlike many I always rated your talent, like many, not your intelligence. You're walking into the lion's den of public opinion. Don't make a fool of yourself.
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