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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:04 pm

Baggers I have nothing in my private messages from you, try again if you will.It appears you are not accepting PMs as there is nothing in my Sent File Mike. This is coming up when I tried to reply to your PM. The requested users (MikeR68) to be added do not exist..
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:12 pm

Mike I was not aware we had a standing bet re Hazlewood. If so perhaps we can settle it with those cold ones in April. Perhaps a couple of your fav hard tipple. Mine is Jack Daniels Black label. Getting back to Hazlewood. It would have been to his advantage and mine had CA not rested our test attack from the last Shield game. Bloody ludicrous. So they go into a tuff series with little cricket and no red ball cricket since end of Ashes. I am backing Haze to take those wickets as he will finally have pitches conjucive to his talents in Sth Africa. He doesnt get much assistance from his home tracks. Agree losing Behrendorff was a big blow as he was putting pressure on Starc. I doubt Pattinson will ever be considered for Test cricket again. A huge shame as I do rate him. Cummins is developing beautifully. I see him as a dangerous prospect for the Saffers. His incredible debut 5 years ago must still give Amla and de Villiers nitemares. Amla will also be having nitemares over Hazlewood. In our last home series Haze took him down 5/6 times from memory.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:05 pm

Why do officialdom have to mess with tradition.. re new points system. How hard is it to follow? I see the Blues falling further down the ladder unless they make changes to the batting lineup. Where are all the 100s.. no one is scoring them while others from interstate are. The Bulls will struggle unless they get Khawaja back and a quality paceman. The Tigers old firm of Bailey, Doolan have not hit their straps since resumption. The other elder of the club Wade..has barely scored any runs the past few months. Doran is finally hitting some form..give him the gloves. Jordan Silk was having a solid season where is he? I see the Redbacks and the Bushies..on the back of two strong attacks, as the two best sides again this season. I expect them to play out the final.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:47 pm

Baggers sent you a PM, I still can't see anything wrong with my profile, I don't know what has gone wrong there.

The thing I like about Cummins is his consistency. He is regularly taking 2-4 wickets per innings compared to Hazlewood who since NZ toured here has lots of 0-2 wicket performances (last 22 innings he has taken 0 or 1 wickets 11 times, that's 50 %). Cummins is consistent. I would always choose a consistent performer over an occassional one. Another reason is Cummins attitude both on and off the field, you can see he loves playing and gives his all. Recently Lehmann said Paine brings a lot of experience to the team and said he keeps the bowlers from mouthing off in the dressing room. I can guarantee you that is not Cummins he is talking about and you and I know exactly who that is. Probably explains Baggers why I am harder on Hazlewood because if the team performs poorly or an outstanding bowler presents and needs to be selected the current bowler to be dropped it is going to be Cummins, and I think that is totally unfair, he is the most consistent performer currently and should be given the same leniency in selection that Hazlewood has been given.

I forgot to ask you what you thought of the IPL auction, where people are finally asked to put their money where their mouths are regarding players ability. Starc Tye and Cummins going for $1 million plus. Mitchel Johnson, NCN, Jason Behrendorff, Ben Dwarshuis all getting good money and Ben Laughlin and Billy Stanlake getting a contract (surprising result for Laughlin). But no offers on Hazlewood, that has to be a slap in the face for Josh when his fellow Australian bowlers are getting a million for a few weeks work and no-one wants him. I think Josh's minimum was what Behrendorff scored as his contract. You know the old saying Money talks... BS walks.

I can now understand why Lynn turned his back on the baggy green. $1.86 million is a lot of reasons. Not to mention his $1 million deal with the Heat, the big dollars being the top pick in the Pakistan Super League Draft. His Hong Kong contract. His West Indies contract...........

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:24 am

I really am not all that bothered by millions being thrown around for players who doubtfully do not deserve them. Lynn or Kholi or de Villiers excepted. Lynn has never spurned the Baggy Green Mike. Said, like all Aussies, he dreams of wearing a BG one day. But will his fragile shoulder survive five day cricket. Reason he likes taking the T20 big bucks. I am rather surprised Hazlewood did not get an IPL contract as wasnt he the leading Aussie short format wicket taker (ODI) last year. Perhaps it was the worlds best.. google it. Having said that he has never really come to terms with limited overs bowling. Said as much himself when he questioned why there wasnt more white ball training .

Are you saying that Hazlewood is a dressing room pest? He is a country boy. Wasnt McGrath also a serial pest. Did not stop him being a good bowler. I like Timmy Paine always have.. he is a great team man and mentor. Would have made a great national captain. Much along the lines of the Big Bear who began his FC career as an 18 year old..captained Vic at 20 and is still going strong 14 years later. Is just as hungry as he was back then.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:46 pm

Mike did you contact raja re PMs?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:29 pm

Who watched the Allan Border Medal presentation? Did we know it was even on. Did Nine promote it.. certainly not with the gusto and over the top hype of its reality shows. They are not even replaying it. Poor show Nine.

From the small morsels of ABM hilites Nine deemed to put online I saw Ricky Ponting's acceptance speech after he was inducted into the Hall of Fame along with Karen Rolton and Norm O'Neil. Loved Ricky's anecdotes about his cricket journey. Was it sexist but I did not find an interview of Karen Rolton let alone the top female Ellyse Perry. Again poor show Nine.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:41 am

never watch it
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:57 am

Katto wrote:never watch it
hate award shows
boring as hell
Not cricket ones when you are a tragic such as I.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:59 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:never watch it
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boring as hell
Not cricket ones when you are a tragic such as I.
Katto. I have been trying to PM raja for a couple of days now.. with no luck. Wanna register with Chrome but am not being accepted???

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:45 pm

Chadd Sayers has replaced Jackson Bird in the Baggy Green touring party for the Saffer tour. Not before time.

Sayers has been been rewarded for his enormous tally of wickets at every level over the past two seasons including taking 62 @19 in the Shield last summer. Tho being picked in touring squads before he has never played a Test..always understudy to the less talented Bird in my view.

"I just think I've got to do what I've been doing at Shield level. I can't go away from what's been working for me, so if I get the chance I'll just do what I've been doing." he told Cricinfo.

Sayers must now be a big chance to make a long overdo Ashes tour next year.

The team leaves on Thursday for the four Test series. The quicks surely are underdone. Why is the media not jumping up and down about their lack of recent cricket leading into a vital series?
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:45 am

Ok I hear you all saying "who cares about women's cricket". Since CA put our women on central contracts along with our men then women's cricket became serious. So when is the ICC going to take it serious and introduce Test cricket to nations other than Australia and England? The organisation had the perfect chance to raise the profile of womenes game this march when A the S Aussie southern stars tour India as i understand it for the first time. Yes this is a step in the rite direction but why is a Test match not being added to the limited overs intinerary?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:53 am

I do get astounded by the incompetence of the people running our great game. Why are our Baggy Greens heading to Sth Africa so early when the first tour match is not until the 22nd? What this means is that there is time for our Test squad to play in this week's Shield match. That would have been far better preparation for an important series over slumming it in some resort,viewing wild animals and perhaps playing the odd game of ridiculous intrasquad cricket...

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:21 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote: Not cricket ones when you are a tragic such as I.
Katto. I have been trying to PM raja for a couple of days now.. with no luck. Wanna register with Chrome but am not being accepted???

:? Chrome?

check his twitter or post a thread calling him out

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Postby bolero » Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:21 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Baggers I have nothing in my private messages from you, try again if you will.It appears you are not accepting PMs as there is nothing in my Sent File Mike. This is coming up when I tried to reply to your PM. The requested users (MikeR68) to be added do not exist..


Baggers, has it got rectified ? You can ask Going South for help, if you need assistance or there is an issue logging in.

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Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:12 am

He pm me I’ve asked on the mod forum thinking GS might see it there

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Postby bolero » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:34 am

Boycs wrote:He pm me I’ve asked on the mod forum thinking GS might see it there


Yeah, I saw your post.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:01 am

bolero wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:Baggers I have nothing in my private messages from you, try again if you will.It appears you are not accepting PMs as there is nothing in my Sent File Mike. This is coming up when I tried to reply to your PM. The requested users (MikeR68) to be added do not exist..


Baggers, has it got rectified ? You can ask Going South for help, if you need assistance or there is an issue logging in.
No still not being accepted. I have PMed raja. No response as yet Bolero. Thank you for your concern..

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:07 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Ok I hear you all saying "who cares about women's cricket". Since CA put our women on central contracts along with our men then women's cricket became serious. So when is the ICC going to take it serious and introduce Test cricket to nations other than Australia and England? The organisation had the perfect chance to raise the profile of womenes game this march when A the S Aussie southern stars tour India as i understand it for the first time. Yes this is a step in the rite direction but why is a Test match not being added to the limited overs intinerary?


I briefly read your reply paddles. I was under the impression that the as the governor of cricket it is the ICC that determines whether Test cricket is played. Am I incorrect? If so then why has CA and the BCCI not gotten together to schedule a Test match for the upcoming Indian tour? Is this a deliberate ploy by them to hold back womens cricket in the sub contrinent?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:03 am

Victoria squad: Cameron White (C), Fawad Ahmed, Scott Boland, Jackson Coleman, Travis Dean, Seb Gotch, Marcus Harris, Will Pucovski, Matthew Short, Peter Siddle, Chris Tremain, Eamonn Vines. To be played at SCG.

Queensland squad: Jimmy Peirson (c), Brendan Doggett, Luke Feldman, Charlie Hemphrey, Sam Heazlett, Marnus Labuschagne, Michael Neser, Lachlan Pfeffer, Matthew Renshaw, Mark Steketee, Mitch Swepson, Jack Wildermuth.

Tasmanian Tigers squad: George Bailey (c), Alex Doolan, Jake Doran, Andrew Fekete, Hamish Kingston, Ben McDermott, Riley Meredith, Simon Milenko, Sam Rainbird, Tom Rogers, Matthew Wade, Beau Webster. To be played at Blunstone Arena.

Western Australia squad: Ashton Turner (c), Alex Bevilaqua, Will Bosisto, Jake Carder, Hilton Cartwright, Liam Guthrie, Matthew Hanna, Clint Hinchliffe, Andrew Holder, Josh Inglis, Simon Mackin, Josh Philippe, Jonathan Wells.

Redbacks squad: Callum Ferguson (c), Tom Andrews, Tom Cooper, John Dalton, Jake Lehmann, Joe Mennie, Harry Nielsen, Alex Ross, Cameron Valente, Jake Weatherald, Nick Winter, Daniel Worrall. To be played at Adelaide Stadium.

NSW Blues squad: Peter Nevill (c), Harry Conway, Trent Copeland, Ed Cowan, Mickey Edwards, Dan Fallins, Moises Henriques, Daniel Hughes, Nick Larkin, Nic Maddinson, Kurtis Patterson, Gurinder Sandhu, Will Somerville, Charlie Stobo


The Warriors and Bulls selectors are to be congratulated with their youth policy. Is there a player over 27/28? One Luke Feldman and he is bowling like a 20 year old anyway. Compare these youthful teams to the Blues with their 'dads army' squad. Pleased to see some good young talent in Josh Philippe (Warriors) Sam Heazlett (Bulls) Will Pukovski (Bushies) and Dan Fallins (Blues). Obviously the Blues selectors view Henriques as undroppable and Param Uppal not ready for FC cricket.
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Postby MikeR68 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:54 pm

Bit hard on NSW baggers. They're giving Charles Stobo and Mickey "get a haircut" Edwards a trundle. But you're right about Qld's youth policy and remember Burns is only 28 as well. That's what I keep saying Qld currently are building for the future and considering they're sitting in 1st currently, they're selecting well.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:05 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Ok I hear you all saying "who cares about women's cricket". Since CA put our women on central contracts along with our men then women's cricket became serious. So when is the ICC going to take it serious and introduce Test cricket to nations other than Australia and England? The organisation had the perfect chance to raise the profile of womenes game this march when A the S Aussie southern stars tour India as i understand it for the first time. Yes this is a step in the rite direction but why is a Test match not being added to the limited overs intinerary?

I briefly read your reply paddles. I was under the impression that the as the governor of cricket it is the ICC that determines whether Test cricket is played. Am I incorrect?


Already answered in my last reply. The ICC does not set the details of bilateral tours. If BCCI and CA want to play a test, it is upto them to arrange.

baggygreenmania wrote:If so then why has CA and the BCCI not gotten together to schedule a Test match for the upcoming Indian tour? Is this a deliberate ploy by them to hold back womens cricket in the sub contrinent?


Well to arrange a tour is not holding back women's cricket. Your issue is with the lack of test matches, this is just one form of cricket.

The Indian women's team has not played a test match since 2014. In that time Australia and England have played 2 tests against each other, 1 in each Ashes. South African women not since 2014. The West Indian, Pakistan and New Zealand women have not played a test since 2004. Sri Lanka not since 1998.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/conten ... 83305.html

I doubt its much of a "holding back" issue when they were played previously. If you follow the money, you will likely find the answer. I take little interest myself in women's cricket but it is my understanding that many of the players outside Australia (and possibly England) are semi-pro and work daily jobs, meaning taking a long time off work for a test tour is arduous, especially if the funds produced from those tests don't grant them better wages from cricket. Now with women's pay from cricket increasing, to keep increasing the product has to sell for more, and tours be shorter with costs cut. So that means less full tours and more limited overs cricket, which has been happening in the men's game too albeit with greater efforts to continue playing test cricket. In the men's game, limited overs funds tests and the men's salaries. In the women's game, what is funding what?

Which is why I say, just because Cricket Australia is cashed up and it and their fans are ready and keen to play women's test cricket with its full time pro team does not mean that the rest of the world is. Australian women can either do a Packer type revolution and buy some opposition to play against, or they will have to wait for Indian cricket fans to want and demand it like they do men's "Outside of Big 3" international limited overs matches, and accordingly pay for it, or women's cricket can cut (further*) into the men's funding, which outside the big 3 nations would further expose international men's cricket to many problems.

I think if India wanted a test, they would have scheduled one. Perhaps women's cricket and the lack of tests is merely foreshadowing what will happen to the men's game over time.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:26 am

So it is the various national associations that determine whether Test for women cricket is played. So it appears both the BCCI and CA do not want to step on the toes of men's cricket funding. I guess before Test cricket is further considered in this country that a four day domestic competition be introduced. Our girls still only play one day white ball domestic cricket. As they say you have to crawl before you can walk.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:37 am

baggygreenmania wrote:So it is the various national associations that determine whether Test for women cricket is played. So it appears both the BCCI and CA do not want to step on the toes of men's cricket funding. I guess before Test cricket is further considered in this country that a four day domestic competition be introduced. Our girls still only play one day white ball domestic cricket. As they say you have to crawl before you can walk.


The cost of four day domestic would be extreme. And even then, the question is whether it be worth it, when only Australia, England and India are able to financially replicate it.

What people have a tough time understanding is that cricket outside the big 3 is so greatly funded by what the Indian cricket fan wants to watch. And they're still not a wealthy country per capita. But that is where the biggest majority global cricket fan are situated.

Accordingly, the BCCI does not even want to pay equal sharing for ICC events, but if the tap is turned off, cricket in SL, SA, NZ, WI, Zim, Afg, Pak, Ire, anywhere outside the big 3 - will fall way behind leaving men's cricket as a 3 nation sport professionally.

A contracted four day men's pro in NZ gets as little $25k (NZD) retainer and no chance to double it even if playing all matches. Now sure - they can work the winter (or goto UK and Europe and play leagues for the experience), and this is still a dream job for teenager or player in early 20's, but if this funding is further cut, what about the 30 plus year olds who bring experience to FC to help produce the next international players.

So women's and men's cricket has a dilemma, do they want to be a 3 nation sport, or a 10+nation sport? I will tell you now, if it becomes a 3 nation sport, the domestic competitions are going to have to be the bread and butter; just like the old Sheffield Shield and county cricket days before so many internationals on TV.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:41 am

MikeR68 wrote:Bit hard on NSW baggers. They're giving Charles Stobo and Mickey "get a haircut" Edwards a trundle. But you're right about Qld's youth policy and remember Burns is only 28 as well. That's what I keep saying Qld currently are building for the future and considering they're sitting in 1st currently, they're selecting well.
I was thinking more about the Blues batting lineup Mike. Param will just have to wait his turn. The consistency with which New South wins national youth competitions, is not reflected in selections. Most have to wait for the big time until in their mide 20s or beyond. By this time they become disillusioned and are forced interstate. Give them the pressure while they are young and enthusiastic.. like Qld did with Renshaw and Heazlett. Matt Kelly yet another quick down with back trouble. I have been impressed by him. Dont know much about his replacement..Andrew Holder. You?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:47 am

Paddles. I reckon when all is said and done no one want the demise of Test cricket.. not even India. You only have to see the huge crowds that support the pure format of our game. So it is up to the governor to provide more funding and convince the strong nations to help fund the weak ones. So the bloke on a $2mill pay packet will have to take a pay cut. He will survive.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:54 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Paddles. I reckon when all is said and done no one want the demise of Test cricket.. not even India. You only have to see the huge crowds that support the pure format of our game. So it is up to the governor to provide more funding and convince the strong nations to help fund the weak ones. So the bloke on a $2mill pay packet will have to take a pay cut. He will survive.


Well, this was also discussed in my original post which you should read in full. But again, the men million dollar plus salaries is only EWCB, BCCI (and its IPL) and CA players.

But the ICC does not have this level of governance currently, and to obtain it, it would have to convince the EWCB, CA, and the BCCI to relinquish what they have currently for the good of the game globally, for both men and women. As I said previously, your possibly utopian suggested solution would initially be welcomed by all men outside the big 3, and all women as a pay rise from what they earn presently.

But there is a strong nationalist feel to the BCCI in its stance with the ICC already demanding an unequal share, and I dare say that they are not so keen to be the jewel in the crown to have their tv audience proceeds fund the whims of foreigners that they have little interest in watching themselves. Or you could make them want to watch women's (test) cricket and fund it in the same way that the men's game is.

If you invert the current trickle down model - the Big 3 lose their present wealth and advantage, with the BCCI losing by far the most. Good luck getting that implemented. I don't fancy your odds of success. But it'd be great for all men outside the big 3 and all women cricketers everywhere. Of course given the deliberate inefficiencies to create global and sexual equality as well as to provide a pathway to prepare for top level cricket, then you still have to worry about private enterprise raiders free riders stealing the top mens talent into made for tv rebel structures reemulating Kerry Packer and Subhash Chandra before them.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:59 am

SCG deck has good pace and bounce and no shortage of greenish grass.

Nick Larkin is for the knackers yard surely after yet another failure.

Whats with the racey helmets some Blues are wearing?
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:13 am

Heaps of life in the Blundstone deck. Tassie with another shocker of a start. Where is the application.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:14 am

Renshaw has turned around his season with his second half ton on the trot.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:27 am

Another 50 to Renshaw, impressive quick return to form by the young bloke. Switched on between the ears, sign of a potential champion. Worrying signs for NSW, one more wicket and they're into NSW tail starting with Henriques.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:46 am

Agree Mike. Not long before he is back opening for Australia.

Plenty of grass on all the decks and as the ball ages the Dukes should start hooping.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:37 am

Renshaw with a classy ton Mike. Has since been savage on Fawad.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:21 am

1,5,0.5,0. Moises Henriques last five Shield scores.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:34 am

Matt Renshaw is confused.. this is FC cricket young man not T20. Throws away a double ton.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Katto » Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:44 am

Paddles wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:Paddles. I reckon when all is said and done no one want the demise of Test cricket.. not even India. You only have to see the huge crowds that support the pure format of our game. So it is up to the governor to provide more funding and convince the strong nations to help fund the weak ones. So the bloke on a $2mill pay packet will have to take a pay cut. He will survive.


Well, this was also discussed in my original post which you should read in full. But again, the men million dollar plus salaries is only EWCB, BCCI (and its IPL) and CA players.


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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:41 am

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Well, this was also discussed in my original post which you should read in full. But again, the men million dollar plus salaries is only EWCB, BCCI (and its IPL) and CA players.


life is too short sport :)


That is fine by me Katto; your aversion to reading my posts or anything longer than 1 page is well known. As such, I do not expect nor request that you read my posts. In fact I prefer that you do not, as it saves me from having to explain simple concepts and logic to you that you often either don't read, miss-comprehend or just don't seem to understand. Life is too short for me to continue doing this so regularly only to be insulted in kind. No offence.

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Postby Going South » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:47 pm

tell me abt it. half my office is empty as they are hit by flu. ha. good that we got 3 day holidays long weekend before i see them all. expecting snow tomorrow brrrrrr

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:45 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:Matt Renshaw is confused.. this is FC cricket young man not T20. Throws away a double ton.


Partly right Baggers but that is due to the new points system in sheffield shield. That performance by Renshaw has extended Qld lead over NSW by a point (NSW only got 0.56 BP compared to Qld 1.33 with 4 overs to go). So you can argue that Renshaw in context of the tournament played correctly and Hughes and Patterson played for themselves rather than what is best for the team. NSW really have to win this particular game outright to keep with Qld, but they do have the bowlers in Sommerville and Copeland, and some promising youth.

NSW did SA a favour allowing them to get the full 1.5 points for bowling keeping them in the race for the finals. That tail NSW plays is getting longer with each game they play, back to the drawing board. Apart from Hughes and Patterson the scorecard looks like an U12 scorecard, if that isn't a message to NSW selectors I don't know what is. And they're also playing on their home ground. Of the 26 points NSW currently have 23+ of them came with one common denominator Steve Smith. They can win without their Australian bowlers as long as Smith plays but as soon a Smith isn't in the side they are poor. Really you cannot consider any of the players possibles for Australian selection. And also considering NSW are playing 4 baggy green test capped players, the most of any other state team currently there are many questions, they should be dominating. You must have been disappointed for Hughes and Patterson falling short of their centuries, both are yet to score one this season.

Worrying signs for Victoria only have 4 wickets with 4 overs to go, so the possibility of picking up any bonus points for bowling are slim, they need 1 wicket in the first 4 overs to get 0.5 BP.

What I am enjoying presently is the battle of the all-rounders in Jack Wildermuth and Simon Milenko, good performances by both currently in their respective games, and it will be interesting to see what they do with the ball. Wildermuth has age on his side being only 24.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:10 am

Mike I was more disappointed for and in Renners demise as he deserved the double. You and I retain faith in the young man.. now the selectors need to follow suit. He will be a superstar in the coming years.
Patterson and Hughes the only Blues batsmen to stand up on a lively deck. Needed Ed Cowan to continue his good form. Henriques and Nevill's heads are in the noose.Excited for young Fallins making his FC debut.

Another five for by Nick Winter. The Dukes is his new best buddy.

A gutsy Wade-led rearguard action by the Tigers puts Tassie in a strong position..
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:40 am

All the Bulls young guns are firing Mike.

Dunno about the rest of you but I feel rather sad when I see these huge colleseums .. such as the MCG plus AO and SCG to a lesser extent.. devoid of patronage. Need to play these games on more intimate suburban grounds which would attract a decent crowd. Also I was under the impression that Melbourne was the sport capital of Australia. So where are the cricket spectators.. and on a weekend?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:29 am

Copeland leading a Blues revival.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:42 am

Super ton by Heazlett. Showed good temperament. Wish I had have seen more of it.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:52 am

Heazlett is the future for both Queensland and Australia. Only 22 and has got a taste of Australia with an ODI, though it wasn't a memorable game for him nor for Australia (great game for Stoinis both with bat and ball). Only his 3rd game for the year, must have had some sort of injury.

Feldman and Neser starting off well, 2 quick wickets for Qld

Bit of a fight back by NSW, fast becoming an interesting match. Copeland is still a talented bowler, shame about injury for his career.

Tasmania on fire putting on a bit of a display against WA who appear to be a bit short in the talent department for this game.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:53 am

Tassie bundle the Warriors out for a piddly 67. Hang your heads. Rare tactic these days by George Bailey.. enforcing the follow on. Tigers going for the kill.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:01 am

What a counter attack in second innings by Warriors debutant Josh Phillippe. This kid is an exciting prospect. What are your views on him Mike?

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Postby MikeR68 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:16 pm

Haven't seen a lot of him baggers. He's another keeper who bats well, starting to be a common thing now. In the futures he has been slightly over-shadowed by Bosisto but he has been performing well opening and keeping (I think he's the leading run scorer in the futures), and he's just 20. I can't remember if he was chosen for the U19 World Cup in 2016 which Australia withdrew from, he was part of the WA U19 side in 2015/16 with Clinton Hinchliffe and Jhye Richardson, and played well then. Currently in the futures he and Bosisto, your boy Justin Avendano, Eamonn Vines, Will Pucovski (saving Victoria at the moment), Kelvin Smith, Lachlan Pfeffer are the real standouts and apart from Avendano the rest are being given an opportunity for their respective states. Good to see if they are given enough opportunities how they go. Surely Avendano has to replace Larkin.

NSW are the ones currently that should have lots of positions available and players like Avendano, Daniel Solway, Nicholas Bertus, Jay Lenton could be given opportunities, they aren't spectacular but given opportunities they could develop. But in saying that watch how Henriques and Nevill and Cowan will score runs this innings keeping the selectors off their backs.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:05 am

Phillippe impressed for CAX1 against the touring Poms. This kid is a talent. His driving is top shelf. The way he flayed those cover drives off the swinging ball was a joy to watch for an old tragic like me. But the main thing that impressed me yesterday was he is a fast learner. Threw his wicket away against the Poms but here he toned it down, showed he has more than one gear. He also has a solid technique..compact in defense. Took a terrific ball to remove him. He has been thrown to the lions as opener. Told a reporter he had not opened since the U15s.

To be fair Cowan is going ok.. it is Henriques, Larkin and Nevill who should get the push..replaced by Avendano, Sams and Lenton. Fallins should remain as the main spinner. I like him.

Kelvin Smith has been given a couple of shots at securing a Redbacks spot but can not grasp it. Another who gets starts without going on like Larkin and many others.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:20 am

How well is the big Bear going.. career best form? 4 games 409* @102 top score 149. His career FC av of @40 should have seen him play more than 4 Test matches.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:30 am

Victoria do the right thing in selection. Cameron White is the perfect foil to the youthful players in Vines and Pucovski's development. Smart selections. Looks like a big win for Tasmania in the next few minutes. Hinchcliff would not like his debut 1 and 0.