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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:31 am

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... s-problems

This is a good article for what we've been talking about. In terms of overseas performance, England are third from the bottom above only West Indies and Bangladesh.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:33 am

And now it looks like Moeen isn't even going to bowl in this inter-Test warm up. I'm worried they're going to try and pick Mason Crane.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:40 pm

James Vince, average twenty over something like nine tests. Enough said. Not good enough.

Give foakes a run and move root to three. Move Moeen down a bit and fit foakes in to the top six

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Paddles » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:04 am

Boycs wrote:James Vince, average twenty over something like nine tests. Enough said. Not good enough.

Give foakes a run and move root to three. Move Moeen down a bit and fit foakes in to the top six


You can swap Bairstow and Moeen around and have Foakes bat 6 and keep ahead of Moeen 7.

Foakes is meant to be some wicket keeping boy wonder with skill levels not seen for England since Jack Russell lost the gloves to Alec Stewart's batting. But according to many Adam Gilchrist started the keeper batsman profecient bat trend later.
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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Paddles » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:53 am

On Moeen batting too high at 6,

"One of the [Australian] players asked if I was batting one place too high," he added. "I said I was actually two spots too high ... but it went straight over his head."


:lmao:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/cricket/news/article.cfm?c_id=29&objectid=11956516
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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:13 pm

Paddles wrote:
Boycs wrote:James Vince, average twenty over something like nine tests. Enough said. Not good enough.

Give foakes a run and move root to three. Move Moeen down a bit and fit foakes in to the top six


You can swap Bairstow and Moeen around and have Foakes bat 6 and keep ahead of Moeen 7.

Foakes is meant to be some wicket keeping boy wonder with skill levels not seen for England since Jack Russell lost the gloves to Alec Stewart's batting. But according to many Adam Gilchrist started the keeper batsman profecient bat trend later.


Didn’t Stewart average something like 70 when not opening, or without the gloves? One of the two.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:15 pm

Just checked. 46.70 or thereabouts. Not quite 70. But his times without the gloves may have coincided with his peak as a batsman regardless, here are always little caveats to stats.

Kumars 66+ non-keeper average is immense.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:28 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... s-anderson

"Duckett 'poured drink over' Anderson"

It seems anything is news these days...

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Paddles » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:55 pm

Boycs wrote:Just checked. 46.70 or thereabouts. Not quite 70. But his times without the gloves may have coincided with his peak as a batsman regardless, here are always little caveats to stats.

Kumars 66+ non-keeper average is immense.


Stewart' was weak to spin but very strong vs seam. He played many tests as non-keeper and then opened the innings smashing the seamers. He rarely kept and opened.
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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:32 pm

Stokes run out for another duck in New Zealand

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:45 pm

So is cookie past it? Or just dipping?

And believe it or not Broad hasn’t taken a five-for for two years according to Cricinfo

And stokes. When will he be back we wonder. He smacked some runs in the most recent NZ game

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:44 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... teven-finn

County grind 'sucks pace' out of England quicks - Finn

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:24 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... es-failure

George Dobell slating the recent years of change to the county championship as a factor for the defeat in Australia:

But by then the cloven hoof of the ECB had stepped in. They had introduced young player incentives (financial bonuses to encourage counties to pick young players) that had the knock-on effect of squeezing mature cricketers out of the game. They had squeezed the county championship into the margins of the season, which had the knock-on effect of negating the need for pace or spin bowlers. They started to take players out of county cricket for rest, Lions games and even strength and conditioning sessions, which had the knock-on effect of diluting the standard. And they cracked down on overseas players and Kolpak registrations, sending the counties scurrying between the rocks and stones for poor imitations. Neither Graeme Hick nor Viv Richards would qualify to play county cricket if they were starting their careers today as they did in their early years. How does that help?


But hang on, is this a case of post hoc ergo procter hoc? Repeat all the points in a slightly altered slots and they sound full of praise.

1) They had introduced young player incentives (financial bonuses to encourage counties to pick young players) - a few minutes ago we were bemoaning the lack of youngsters interested in Test cricket and were trying to encourage county cricket to be a production group for future English Test cricketers.

2) They had squeezed the county championship into the margins of the season, which had the knock-on effect of negating the need for pace or spin bowlers - true, but we were also desperate for money and public interest to revive county cricket as a whole, across all three formats

3) They started to take players out of county cricket for rest, Lions games and even strength and conditioning sessions - last time I checked you can't turn a corner without hearing something about a cricketer complaining about busy schedules, no fitness, no rest!

4) they cracked down on overseas players and Kolpak registrations, sending the counties scurrying between the rocks and stones for poor imitations - so we don't want home grown cricketers? Were we not a few months ago criticising the selection of Kopak players as they squeezed home grown talent out of the championship and thus meant fewer players were learning the trade who would go on to benefit England?

Just feels like taking issues with the championship for the asking of being able to fill out an article on CricInfo, using talking points that were being lobbied for to make the complete opposite arguments only a short while ago.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Paddles » Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:56 am

Boycs wrote:http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21805721/ecb-decade-errors-led-ashes-failure

George Dobell slating the recent years of change to the county championship as a factor for the defeat in Australia:

But by then the cloven hoof of the ECB had stepped in. They had introduced young player incentives (financial bonuses to encourage counties to pick young players) that had the knock-on effect of squeezing mature cricketers out of the game. They had squeezed the county championship into the margins of the season, which had the knock-on effect of negating the need for pace or spin bowlers. They started to take players out of county cricket for rest, Lions games and even strength and conditioning sessions, which had the knock-on effect of diluting the standard. And they cracked down on overseas players and Kolpak registrations, sending the counties scurrying between the rocks and stones for poor imitations. Neither Graeme Hick nor Viv Richards would qualify to play county cricket if they were starting their careers today as they did in their early years. How does that help?


But hang on, is this a case of post hoc ergo procter hoc? Repeat all the points in a slightly altered slots and they sound full of praise.

1) They had introduced young player incentives (financial bonuses to encourage counties to pick young players) - a few minutes ago we were bemoaning the lack of youngsters interested in Test cricket and were trying to encourage county cricket to be a production group for future English Test cricketers.

2) They had squeezed the county championship into the margins of the season, which had the knock-on effect of negating the need for pace or spin bowlers - true, but we were also desperate for money and public interest to revive county cricket as a whole, across all three formats

3) They started to take players out of county cricket for rest, Lions games and even strength and conditioning sessions - last time I checked you can't turn a corner without hearing something about a cricketer complaining about busy schedules, no fitness, no rest!

4) they cracked down on overseas players and Kolpak registrations, sending the counties scurrying between the rocks and stones for poor imitations - so we don't want home grown cricketers? Were we not a few months ago criticising the selection of Kopak players as they squeezed home grown talent out of the championship and thus meant fewer players were learning the trade who would go on to benefit England?

Just feels like taking issues with the championship for the asking of being able to fill out an article on CricInfo, using talking points that were being lobbied for to make the complete opposite arguments only a short while ago.


England's new batsmen are making runs in Australia, more runs than they needed at home to beat Safrica, and this is not with Root, Cook nor Ali scoring big neither. So the answer lies in the England bowling, which we all more more or less agreed before the series started. Anderson with some nice tail end wickets at the Waca, and starring in Adelaide (the latter we all more or less agreed would happen) is doing well enough this series, but 2 tests to go could see his average increase, but Broad has been dismal throughout. Overton has been okay till he got injured. Ball was the wrong decision for the 1st test.

So how does England get more tall bounce seamers, with some decent pace, who really are going to be guaranteed selection only every 4 years for a tour to Australia, and maybe, just maybe as a reserve to South Africa in case they shave their pitches the day before the test. The EWCB needs to entice a player to play this way, and not look to replicate Anderson and swing, or traditional English seam at Philander pace like Overton, but quicker.

The answer is, Kyle Abbott will be qualified to play for England next Straya tour :D And Overton has an identical brother who bowls even faster.
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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:32 am

Ooooo looks like we (Somerset) have signed Bancroft as an opener.

And Mason Crane is excitedly looking forward to a possible debut, apparently. FFS what has he done to deserve selection? Nothing. Pick Jack leach if you want to play a spinner. At least he’s taken some wickets albeit on a catered turner at Taunton.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:47 pm

I’m glad that the media appear to accept that this scoreline is just because Australia are far superior than England in Australia (just like England are a better team than Australia in England)

They are raising the issues of selection, stokes, off field distractions etc but rightly recognising that the simple gulf between the teams is far more of a factor. It’s no great mystery and in my opinion we all saw it coming.

That way we keep our heads and don’t bleat about sacking half the team or the coach.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Paddles » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:03 pm

Boycs wrote:That way we keep our heads and don’t bleat about sacking half the team or the coach.


Yups. Noone can question Jimmy and even Stuart's value at home.

While Stokes with the bat and TRJ with the ball may have offered a bit more - Aus is just damn tough to beat at home.
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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:30 pm

I am indeed looking forward to TRJ long term

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:03 pm

I shall be cancelling my BT sport membership after the final test, reverting to just sky for the Home season, but BT sport have been okay in their coverage and it’s nice to see Geoffrey get some TV time. Thoughts?

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:23 pm

Here’s a good pub quiz question for you.

Eight barons or baroness have played Test cricket. Can anyone name them all?

Raja, I’m looking at you.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Paddles » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:43 am

Sam Curran has put on two t20 master classes of batting this year against some good bowling.

At only 19 - and still svelte - this kid is one to watch out for in the future.

I havn't followed his bowling - but his batting is impossible not to pay attention too. Its pure t20 brilliance - pull bouncers for 6, paddle over keeper, reverse lap over short fine leg, smash through point. Doesn't take to play himself in neither.

He has played 3 seasons of FC in England and is only 19. So his current numbers are not yet indicative of his potential imo.
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Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:38 am

I watched him bowl on t20 debut. Very tight to the stumps and not afraid to pitch it up. Was impressed.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:01 pm

Strauss to consider £3 million 'spin fund' http://es.pn/2qUabx1

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Paddles » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:23 am

Boycs wrote:I watched him bowl on t20 debut. Very tight to the stumps and not afraid to pitch it up. Was impressed.


His bowling is getting smashed over here regularly. But his batting has pleasantly surprised Auclkland fans.
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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:39 am

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... e-contract

Alex Hales has become the latest England player to choose a future as a white-ball specialist.

Just days after Adil Rashid announced he would play only white-ball cricket for Yorkshire this season, Hales has agreed a white-ball only contract with Nottinghamshire until the end of the 2019 season. A club statement clarifies: "He will not play red-ball cricket."

While Hales and Rashid had both lost their places in England's Test team (Hales played the last of his 11 Tests against Pakistan in August 2016), a recall for either of them was far from impossible. Hales had been considered for a place in the Ashes squad and will have noted that none of his rivals took the opportunity to make that spot their own.

But with the growth in T20 leagues promising a lucrative future for those with the talent - and Hales, as the first England player to make a T20I century and, until recently, the holder of the highest score by an England batsman in an ODI, clearly has the talent - he may have concluded that the benefits of improvement in red-ball cricket do not match the rewards for his continued success in white-ball cricket. He may also have reasoned that the ability to concentrate on white-ball skills without the complications or demands of red-ball cricket would allow him greater scope for improvement.

It might also be relevant that Hales missed out on an IPL deal this year. If he can demonstrate improved T20 form - and assure potential bidders that he will not be required to leave the tournament early to report for county duty - he will surely make himself more attractive to potential suitors in future years.

"Alex is entitled to make himself available for whatever format he wants to play, and we respect his decision," Nottinghamshire's director of cricket, Mick Newell, said. "He's an outstanding white-ball player and we look forward to him helping us win more trophies in that format of the game."

Hales had previously vowed to reinvent himself as a middle-order batsman in first-class cricket. Having accepted that his game was just a little loose for the demands of opening, he had talked of moving back down the order - it had always been his preferred place to bat in first-class cricket - and aiming for a spot in England's Test middle-order. The reality of that, however - long days in the field; long days working on technique and negotiating the moving ball in early-season conditions without any guarantee of success - has lost out to the possibilities presented by a future as a limited-overs specialist.

"For the next 18 months I'm excited to focus entirely on limited-overs cricket," Hales said in a post on his Twitter account. "The decision to focus on my white-ball game wasn't taken lightly or on the spur of the moment; it's one I've thought long and hard about. It's also one I've discussed at length with the Notts management. I'd like to thank them for their continued support."

While Hales and Rashid have been at pains to state they have not retired from red-ball cricket, this news will reinforce the impression that the first-class game faces an uncertain future. Struggling to attract crowds (in many parts of the world, at least) and often more demanding of the participants, it is now clearly struggling to retain some of its more attractive players. The suspicion remains that, once the 2019 World Cup is finished, the 50-over game, may also struggle to retain the involvement of the best players.

All of which leaves the obvious question: who is next? The attractions of specialising in limited-overs cricket, for fast bowlers in particular, are obvious.

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Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:40 am

This follows a Rashid. Is this the start of another death knell for the county game? Or is it just good career smarts for players who know they will never get into the Test team again, so why not scrap the Test-preparatory school of first class cricket and focus on their white-ball skills, and also free up schedule time for T20 franchise cricket for financial security?

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Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:36 pm

Leach has taken a six-for against the West Indies for the Lions. Get him in the damn test team for a run and stop messing around with nobodies like crane and dawson

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Postby Boycs » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:19 am

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... re-captain

County stalwart Michael Carberry confirmed as Leicestershire captain for this season:

Leicestershire have confirmed the appointment of Michael Carberry as captain and Tom Smith as second XI coach.

Carberry, who joined the club towards the end of the 2017 season, replaces Mark Cosgrove as captain and will lead in all three formats. Leicestershire failed to win a Championship match in 2017 and finished bottom of the division two table.

While Carberry may feel he has some questions to answer about his own form - he averaged just 17.42 in the County Championship for Hampshire and Leicestershire in 2017 - he has vast experience from a career that has seen him represent England in all three formats and win four limited-overs trophies with Hampshire.

Despite his own health problems and advancing years (he is 37), Carberry has also remained impressively fit and is seen as the sort of role-model cricketer than can inspire Leicestershire's younger players.

Cosgrove, who was easily the club's highest run-scorer in the Championship in 2017, will continue at Leicestershire as a player.

Smith, meanwhile, returns to a club he represented on-loan in 2008. Having seen an impressive career as an all-rounder curtailed by injury - Smith was part of the Lancashire side that won the County Championship in 2011 and was appointed the club captain ahead of the 2015 season - he has had coaching spells with Lancashire's academy, Lancashire Thunder and England Women. He is 32.

The appointment completes a transformation of the club's coaching staff over recent months which has also seen Paul Nixon appointed as head coach, Matt Mason appointed as bowling coach and John Sadler appointed as assistant coach.

"This is an exciting opportunity for me at Leicestershire and it is great to be working alongside Nico [Paul Nixon], John Sadler, Matt Mason and all of the coaching staff," Smith said. "I enjoyed my time here as a player alongside Nico so it was an easy decision to make. I'm really looking forward to being part of a fresh coaching team at the Foxes and can't wait to get started."

"Tom is a brilliant bloke who I had the pleasure of playing alongside here," Nixon said. "He was a top-class cricketer who was highly skilled across all formats. Tom was named as captain of Lancashire at a young age which shows his pedigree.

"He has since upskilled his coaching CV with work at Lancashire both in the men's and women's game and has also been working with the England Women team. We're delighted to have Tom on board with us."

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Postby Boycs » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:47 am

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... ket-rashid

Rashid's "heart isn't in red ball cricket"

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Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:34 pm

Amla has signed for Hants

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Postby Boycs » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:34 pm

And Corey Anderson for Somerset

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Postby Boycs » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:30 pm

Sam Hain is averaging 60 in domestic one day cricket and today Ashley Giles calls his England debut “overdue”

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby raja » Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:11 am

England is overflowing with talent right now.
I can see it being No.1 in all three formats of the game within the next 12-24 months.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:02 am

Lol thanks for the jinx raja :D

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:27 pm

Someone explain to me, after ten Test matches, what Mark Wood has done to suggest he has what it takes for the international game? Averages 45 with the ball in both formats, so it's not even like he has found a niche in ODI cricket but is yet to develop a Test string to his bow. He's out-and-out overwhelmed at international level and has had sufficient time to be fully explored, judged, and now discarded. It's a harsh world but I can't see the reward of perseverance for love nor money.

Particularly when you had people like Jamie Harris (400 FC wickets at 29) Chris Rushworth (359 FC wickets at 24) and a few years ago Graham Onions (600+ FC wickets at 26, 32 Test wickets at 29) who over the last five years could have been fourth bowlers at Test level or at least given a run. And with up-and-comers like Jake Ball and Tom Curran, Ben Coad, all waiting in the wings.

Get out of the way, Mark.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Going South » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:26 am

you never answered my question so i ask here as it’s English related.

is kate an alien visitor from far away galaxy to probe humans ?
i get that feeling when entire english press go gaga over her finger’s length as if she is not human. cricket took back stage over THAT.

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Boycs » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:44 am

Kate Middleton? God who cares?

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Re: The Sun Never Sets Over the English Game - All things EWCB cricket

Postby Shambles » Thu May 17, 2018 6:37 pm

Can she open the batting..??