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Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:42 am

Thought i might start a catch all thread for the Australian/New Zealand Winter, where any news that comes along concerning Australian Cricket & Australian Cricketers can be posted, including.
County Cricket.
Winter A series.
Team selections.
Interstate movements of players.
But not IPL, lets keep that to the IPL threads.
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Re: Australian Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:08 am

Great Idea.

Wish there were more Kiwi fans so as to do the same for NZC players. I typically only follow a few leading players in county cricket, and lose interest in the Caribbean T20 quick smart. I do try to follow all Kiwis in IPL, though.

I look forward to reading this thread with interest.
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Re: Australian Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:11 am

Paddles wrote:Great Idea.

Wish there were more Kiwi fans so as to do the same for NZC players. I typically only follow a few leading players in county cricket, and lose interest in the Caribbean T20 quick smart.

I look forward to reading this thread with interest.

Can change it to a joint Aust/NZ Winter thread if you like, don't have a drama with that.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:47 am

If you and baggy, whoever else uses this thread, want to put up the good and bad performances of Kiwi cricketers in your updates, I would be highly appreciative of that.
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:08 am

My Ashes squad for the 1st test.
Smith
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Handscomb
Maxwell
Wade
Starc
Hazlewood
Pattinson
Cummins
Lyon
Can't split the fastmen, will depend on form.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:34 pm

Baggers Ashes squad.
Warner
Renshaw
Smith (c)
Khawaja
Cartwright
Handscomb
Whiteman
Starc
Hazlewood
Cummins
Pattinson.
Swepson/Maxwell (12th)
Presumably the first test will be at the Gabba.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:01 pm

Waca test

6Maxwell
Wade/Nevill
Cummins
Pattinson
Starc
Hazelwood
12 Lyon

Makes you thunk, how many more grounds are not ideal for Lyon ?
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:52 am

Paddles wrote:Waca test

6Maxwell
Wade/Nevill
Cummins
Pattinson
Starc
Hazelwood
12 Lyon

Makes you thunk, how many more grounds are not ideal for Lyon ?

None last summer, 17 wkts@49.88 for 6 tests at 3.62 runs per over, dreadful figures. But come the Gabba there he will be, because everyone loves him, you get people like Alan Border sitting in studios who say they can't understand why people want him dropped!!! Hes untouchable and i can't for the life of me work out why. O'Keefe might still only take 17 wkts for the summer but at least the run rate won't be out of control.
The proposed Bangladesh tour is in doubt due to the only available time Australia has is in their wet season. So the 1st Ashes test is likely to be Australias next. Maxwell & Wade done enough to keep their spots for at least the 1st 2 Ashes tests.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:55 am

Australia is due to return to India about Sept-Oct for the ODI part of the tour, nothing definate yet though.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:15 am

Mick180461 wrote:Australia is due to return to India about Sept-Oct for the ODI part of the tour, nothing definate yet though.

Totally agree with you views on Lyon Mick. A huge mystery. In the good old days they played the limited overs component on the same Test tour . Not today for some unknown reason. So instead of scheduling another smaller test tour as prep for the Ashes our boys have to saddle up in India again for a five match white ball series. :?

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:25 am

www.cricketaustralia.com.au/media/featu ... lia-under-
Moved this across from domestic thread in case we need it later on.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:30 am

Paddles. The last two WACA Test decks have been roads compared to the fearsome bouncy tracks of the past. So I doubt they will play all four quicks there. It may not even be played at the WACA as the new Perth Burswood Stadium could be up and running come November in which case Ashes Tests will be forever played there.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:34 am

An interesting anecdote by Ed Cowan on Virat Kohli.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/ed- ... 01bec21f05

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:46 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Paddles. The last two WACA Test decks have been roads compared to the fearsome bouncy tracks of the past. So I doubt they will play all four quicks there. It may not even be played at the WACA as the new Perth Burswood Stadium could be up and running come November in which case Ashes Tests will be forever played there.


The 2 allrounders - Maxwell and A Turner bowl spin; Pattinson, Cummins, Starc, and Hazelwood are intl quality.

There could be a change next season on pitches not conducive to spin.

I rate Lyon - but he's not J Pattinson.
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:33 am

Paddles wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:Paddles. The last two WACA Test decks have been roads compared to the fearsome bouncy tracks of the past. So I doubt they will play all four quicks there. It may not even be played at the WACA as the new Perth Burswood Stadium could be up and running come November in which case Ashes Tests will be forever played there.


The 2 allrounders - Maxwell and A Turner bowl spin; Pattinson, Cummins, Starc, and Hazelwood are intl quality.

There could be a change next season on pitches not conducive to spin.

I rate Lyon - but he's not J Pattinson.

Please do not be fooled by talk that Maxwell is an all rounder. A batting/change bowler only. Turner has not proven to me yet that he should be classed as a batting all rounder. I rate Ashton Agar over these two. Agar's action reminds me so much of your great left arm tweaker Dan Vettori. When are we going to see him bowling for his country? Since most Aussie decks became drop-ins they are conducive to spin.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:37 am

Paddles. Do you think your blokes may have batted too long first innings knowing there was some nasty weather around? Having the Saffers 5-80 at the close sounds to me they did and probably cruelled a win.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Misty » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:44 am

baggygreenmania wrote:An interesting anecdote by Ed Cowan on Virat Kohli.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/ed- ... 01bec21f05


Page not open in India, I may try to open in Google chrome later on.
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Misty » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:46 am

Nov /Dec. Ashes so no cricket this year between arch Rival of the current subject
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:18 am

Misty wrote:Nov /Dec. Ashes so no cricket this year between arch Rival of the current subject

VK manages to get up a lot of noses. Expression meaning he pi..es off a lot of people.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:17 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:Paddles. Do you think your blokes may have batted too long first innings knowing there was some nasty weather around? Having the Saffers 5-80 at the close sounds to me they did and probably cruelled a win.


No I don't. Forecasts were rain everyday and unreliable. There was a bit of criticism of Santner/Williamson going slow for first hour day 4. If KW bats slow - the bowling deserves his slow sr. He presumably had a plan of 500 and 4 sessions to bowl at SA. Thats a good enough plan. This innings of Santner could be the making of him. To try and win the game on day 4 would have turned the game in a one day match effectively with Safrica not incentivised to risk losing for winning being 1-0 up.

A bigger issue in tests in March. NZ could have won 2-1 (1st test rained out) but for rain or lost 2-1. England have a test here next year that hangs over till April. Irritating. The issue is rugby season and getting crowds for limited overs before rugby kicks off with the cricket tests on. But our schedule plays second fiddle to clashing with Safrica and Aus and we're the poor cousin.

But NZ needs to address its middle order to deserve to win series against teams like Safrica. Wellington 2nd test was pathetic. Broom will be gone with a fit Taylor but Nicchols is set for yet another season (and he'll prolly bully the Windies and secure another year in the team before England expose him).
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:24 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:
Paddles wrote:
The 2 allrounders - Maxwell and A Turner bowl spin; Pattinson, Cummins, Starc, and Hazelwood are intl quality.

There could be a change next season on pitches not conducive to spin.

I rate Lyon - but he's not J Pattinson.

Please do not be fooled by talk that Maxwell is an all rounder. A batting/change bowler only. Turner has not proven to me yet that he should be classed as a batting all rounder. I rate Ashton Agar over these two. Agar's action reminds me so much of your great left arm tweaker Dan Vettori. When are we going to see him bowling for his country? Since most Aussie decks became drop-ins they are conducive to spin.


Vettori was unable to turn a doorhandle for the last half of his career and was our best batsman from Flemming's retirement till Taylor's rise. Great odi bowler tho and far more effective in tests riding Shane Bond's wave when he was fit.

I just wanted to be the first poster to identify the chance of a 4 prong Aussie fast seam attack with Maxwell or Turner (or Agar) in support batting at 6 during the Ashes. You can argue the merits.
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:34 pm

Massive announcement out of CA this morning, they are so dissapointed to lose in India that they are dumping Steve Smith as captain and Darren Lehmann as coach and appointing Peter Handscomb as captain and Jason Gillespie Coach. Both Marshes, Lyon & O'Keefe have been told they will never be picked again and they just as well go and play IPL.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby louie_db9 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:26 pm

Mick180461 wrote:Massive announcement out of CA this morning, they are so dissapointed to lose in India that they are dumping Steve Smith as captain and Darren Lehmann as coach and appointing Peter Handscomb as captain and Jason Gillespie Coach. Both Marshes, Lyon & O'Keefe have been told they will never be picked again and they just as well go and play IPL.


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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:40 pm

M isty this is info on Sangha and Nair.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/ind ... -u19-squad

This is some footage of Nair debuting in Sydney Premier League at 15. I also have some footage of his 6 wickets in U19 final somewhere. Will have a look for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB1pU82URgs

This was what I could find on Param Uppal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRhpRGJorAI

http://www.cricketnsw.com.au/about/basi ... t-scholars

http://www.cricketnsw.com.au/about/basi ... t-scholars
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:57 pm

Mick180461 wrote:Massive announcement out of CA this morning, they are so dissapointed to lose in India that they are dumping Steve Smith as captain and Darren Lehmann as coach and appointing Peter Handscomb as captain and Jason Gillespie Coach. Both Marshes, Lyon & O'Keefe have been told they will never be picked again and they just as well go and play IPL.

Gotta tell you Mick I wish part of that was not just April Fool talk. The bit about dumping the spinners I mean. Boof can also go. What is this I hear about SOK saying Steve Smith's captaincy wilts under pressure? :oops:
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:03 am

Like that expression " unable to turn a door handle". Accuracy and variation made Dan stand out from the crowd in my view not the fact he turned the ball. Was a tall bloke as well so got unexpected bounce. I rate him very loftily. I would like to see CA appoint him our slow bowling coach. Has evidently been well received as Brisbane Heat coach. So you never know.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:12 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Like that expression " unable to turn a door handle". Accuracy and variation made Dan stand out from the crowd in my view not the fact he turned the ball. Was a tall bloke as well so got unexpected bounce. I rate him very loftily. I would like to see CA appoint him our slow bowling coach. Has evidently been well received as Brisbane Heat coach. So you never know.

He's an outstanding coach and thinker of the game. So is Flemming - so is Bond. NZC have none of them. Bond is a huge loss. But Vettori had limtations after back injuries to finish the job in tests due to a lack of turn. Outstanding er in odi tho with his variations.
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:32 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:Massive announcement out of CA this morning, they are so dissapointed to lose in India that they are dumping Steve Smith as captain and Darren Lehmann as coach and appointing Peter Handscomb as captain and Jason Gillespie Coach. Both Marshes, Lyon & O'Keefe have been told they will never be picked again and they just as well go and play IPL.

Gotta tell you Mick I wish part of that was not just April Fool talk. The bit about dumping the spinners I mean. Boof can also go. What is this I hear about SOK saying Steve Smith's captaincy wilts under pressure? Could say the same thing about you SOK. That is really the pot calling the kettle black. :oops:


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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:38 am

My bad. The Skull said it. Should have done better homework. What I said about SOK still stands. I have been feeling something similar about Smith's captaincy when the side is under extreme pressure.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

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Mick180461 wrote:Massive announcement out of CA this morning, they are so dissapointed to lose in India that they are dumping Steve Smith as captain and Darren Lehmann as coach and appointing Peter Handscomb as captain and Jason Gillespie Coach. Both Marshes, Lyon & O'Keefe have been told they will never be picked again and they just as well go and play IPL.


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Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:48 am

Funny Mick. I picked it in a flash mate. (PM)

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:56 am

Chadd sayers has iced the cake with Shield Player of the Year gong. He topped the wicket tally with the second loftiest return in shield history of 62 behind only the enigmatic Shaun Tait a decade ago. Hilton Cartwright polled second while Blues veteran Ed Cowan rounded out the placings. I expect to see Chadd Sayers to at least make the Bangladesh squad. He may also come into consideration for the Champions Trophy in England where the conditions would suit his bowling style.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:28 am

Aussies who will be playing English County cricket in Winter.
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australi ... 2017-03-31

The main thing that stands out on that list is the lack of young players. All chasing big bucks in the IPL. A season in English cricket would be far more beneficial to their careers.

Also interested seeing if any of our up and comers are playing English League Cricket.
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:41 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Chadd sayers has iced the cake with Shield Player of the Year gong. He topped the wicket tally with the second loftiest return in shield history of 62 behind only the enigmatic Shaun Tait a decade ago. Hilton Cartwright polled second while Blues veteran Ed Cowan rounded out the placings. I expect to see Chadd Sayers to at least make the Bangladesh squad. He may also come into consideration for the Champions Trophy in England where the conditions would suit his bowling style.

Baggers have you seen Sayers list A record 11 matches 6 wkts @80.66, totally a red ball specialist.
Cartwright is WAs player of the year and Holland is Victorias, no real surprises there.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:17 am

His List A record is on Aussie decks . Totally different to the Pom tracks where the Champions Trophy will be played. CA rewards domestic results. I see this as his only door to a baggy green...even then it is at very long odds.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:46 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Aussies who will be playing English County cricket in Winter.
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australi ... 2017-03-31

The main thing that stands out on that list is the lack of young players. All chasing big bucks in the IPL. A season in English cricket would be far more beneficial to their careers.

Also interested seeing if any of our up and comers are playing English League Cricket.

The good one is Cam Bancroft having a full season of county Cricket, interesting to see if his name popped up for Aus A selection or not, the Selectors could leave him where he is as a better Career path then bringing him back. A strong season would put him back in front of the selectors. Would like to see Renshaw play some county games as he will only get Bangladesh or Aus A over winter.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby louie_db9 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:47 am

Mick180461 wrote:
louie_db9 wrote:
Any source/link?

Yes mate aprilthefirst.com


Bloody timezones! :evil:

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:36 pm

louie_db9 wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:Yes mate aprilthefirst.com


Bloody timezones! :evil:

What is your time zone?

We are an hour closer to the rest of the world from today as daylite saving has finished here on the southern east coast of Australia.

This makes interesting reading. Take a look at Warner's figures. His career is going down the slippery slope .
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australi ... 2017-04-01

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Postby louie_db9 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:55 pm

I'm in the UK

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

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louie_db9 wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:Yes mate aprilthefirst.com


Bloody timezones! :evil:

Seeing it was still the 31st of march in Pommieland, your excused. :lol:

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:38 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
louie_db9 wrote:
Bloody timezones! :evil:

What is your time zone?

We are an hour closer to the rest of the world from today as daylite saving has finished here on the southern east coast of Australia.

This makes interesting reading. Take a look at Warner's figures. His career is going down the slippery slope .
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australi ... 2017-04-01

:welcome: back from the twilight zone, don't have to work out the time for the rest of the east coast for the next 6 months

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:50 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
This makes interesting reading. Take a look at Warner's figures. His career is going down the slippery slope .
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australi ... 2017-04-01

There's a couple of interesting ones in that lot, Shaun Marsh is another who's average is on a slippery slope started the summer with an avetage of 40 now down to 36. IF and thats a big IF Warner has any brains he would be changing his bat now to meet the new regs, he has to much talent to let this slide continue simply due to having to play with a smaller bat.
Ed Cowan is the NSW player of the year, again a no -brainer, could put him in line for an Ashes spot if he can continue that form in County Cricket and early Shiels matches.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:03 am

louie_db9 wrote:I'm in the UK

Well we all have our crosses to bear. You will be pleased that your domestic season is about to start. While ours goes into hibernation. Apart from the odd underage or Aussie A series the cricket cupboard is bare until November when we do battle again..this time on our shores and in our conditions. :popcorn:

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:10 am

George Bailey esq. will also be playing in England..Hampshire. Scrub this total youth policy. Every side needs at least one hard head. If so it will be out of Ed or George for a spot in the Ashes.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:37 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
louie_db9 wrote:
Bloody timezones! :evil:

What is your time zone?

We are an hour closer to the rest of the world from today as daylite saving has finished here on the southern east coast of Australia.

This makes interesting reading. Take a look at Warner's figures. His career is going down the slippery slope .
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australi ... 2017-04-01
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:38 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
This makes interesting reading. Take a look at Warner's figures. His career is going down the slippery slope .
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/australi ... 2017-04-01


You think that Warner's lack of runs away from home in India is a steady downturn that will continue to a lack of runs at home; or you making a slippery slope argument as to his away form from his home form? I hope you're right, but I doubt it. My doubts will be confirmed with some big ipl scores. Personally I think he plays within himself too much in Indian tests. Besides Safrican and a single UAE tour, he has regularly performed at a lesser level on tour than he has in Australia.

Is the August tour of Australia by Bangladesh still on, what are the grounds?
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:32 am

Dunno bout the Bangla tour at this stage. CA will not confirm. As for Warner. Yes his away form, specially in sub continent.. is moderate at best. In my view his home form has also been wanin g as his average indicates. Apart from that pair of 100s in one game his returns last summer were again rather moderate. Will the loss of his monster bat make any difference? Regardless of whatever bat you use you have to have the correct technique to score runs or occupy the crease. Davey has never been any good against the moving ball and I do not think he has heard of the word patience.. So I see the loss of his monster bat making little difference. He certainly will not be clearing boundaries off the edge any more.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Mick180461 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:35 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Dunno bout the Bangla tour at this stage. CA will not confirm. As for Warner. Yes his away form, specially in sub continent.. is moderate at best. In my view his home form has also been wanin g as his average indicates. Apart from that pair of 100s in one game his returns last summer were again rather moderate. Will the loss of his monster bat make any difference? Regardless of whatever bat you use you have to have the correct technique to score runs or occupy the crease. Davey has never been any good against the moving ball and I do not think he has heard of the word patience.. So I see the loss of his monster bat making little difference. He certainly will not be clearing boundaries off the edge any more.

Actually Warner had a pretty good tour to England in 2015, scored 418 runs @46.

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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby Paddles » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:42 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Dunno bout the Bangla tour at this stage. CA will not confirm. As for Warner. Yes his away form, specially in sub continent.. is moderate at best. In my view his home form has also been wanin g as his average indicates. Apart from that pair of 100s in one game his returns last summer were again rather moderate. Will the loss of his monster bat make any difference? Regardless of whatever bat you use you have to have the correct technique to score runs or occupy the crease. Davey has never been any good against the moving ball and I do not think he has heard of the word patience.. So I see the loss of his monster bat making little difference. He certainly will not be clearing boundaries off the edge any more.


Davey made a name for himself carrying his bat on a Hobart greenie in 2011. Just sayin'. Safrica seams too, as does NZ - but Safrica are faster wickets. Australian pitches are as fast as it gets. I think with Davey its pace he likes more and has trouble adjusting for slower pitches more for than movement. Even in Aus he is playing cover drives wide of him on the up to the swinging new ball. But in Aus he plunders. "Crunch" as Michael Slater says.

You may be right, and the moving ball is a common criticism of Aussie batsmen post '07 but I'm not entirely convinced it is Davey's problem. And having seen his demolition ipl jobs - I think he ought to have treated India's bowlers with more disdain in tests. It is a similar catch 22 that saw Afridi retire from tests despite recent good form from run making via scoring fast, of batting time and setting the example Smith wanted the team to follow. David can bat time tho on tricky wickets if he's scoring.

David is Grey Nichols sponsored - for those that like science over feelings, they can just re-release the scoop bat for David
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Re: Australian/New Zealand Cricketers over the winter

Postby louie_db9 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:48 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
louie_db9 wrote:I'm in the UK

Well we all have our crosses to bear. You will be pleased that your domestic season is about to start. While ours goes into hibernation. Apart from the odd underage or Aussie A series the cricket cupboard is bare until November when we do battle again..this time on our shores and in our conditions. :popcorn:


I'm an India fan and don't really keep up with the English domestic scene that much aside from checking the odd score. Will try to keep up more with the IPL, but being a Kings XI Punjab fan that's not the easiest thing to do usually.


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