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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:45 am

Stobo was disappointing Mike..the others deserved to keep their place.

As you correctly point out it is the batsmen that are the problem not the bowlers. To be fair Sandhu has been in reasonable form so I am all for him getting another shot. Conway seems to be standing still. Hard to imagine he got an all bowled hat trick in the 2012 U19 WC. His clever voice impressions are more impressive than his bowling. Larkin is finally getting meaningful runs with a scratchy 85.. Jarod Freeman looks a touch like a chubby Shane Warne when he first started tweaking.

Freeman just deceived Ed Cowan in flite for his first FC wicket. Well done young fellar.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:10 am

Henriques must frustrate his team mates and coach to distraction. To see the level of natural talent he has ..why then is he averaging less than @15 this season and @33 career wise?

Hold onto your hat Mike.. Henriques just posted his 50.. and a quality knock it was.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:57 am

Mike & Mick there is a Aust vs SAffer thread now in Live Cricket Forums.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:42 am

The century eludes Kurtis Patterson once again as he falls for a polished 72.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:11 am

A run plunder by the Blues at home today. Miracle or miracles Henriques with a ton. Can he now turn round his season?

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:03 am

Nevill fails again.
Still plenty of greenish grass on SCG deck. Much cooler today in Sydney after a southerly change overnite.

Another Canberra boy doing well is Tom Rogers. Has now joined Feldman in the wicket taking top 5.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:06 am

Redbacks welcome back Head, Carey while spin with Zampa is prefered over pace of Kane Richardson. Does that scribe who mooted the dumping of Nick Winter still have a job?

Bulls batting. Mike tell me why captains choose to open with two lefties. Blues did the same for years.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:38 am

Blues declare on 8-449 after a quickfire 40 by the under rated Trent Copeland. Centurion Henriques finished undefeated on 131.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:47 am

Plenty of runs (9/375) hit at the WACA with Travis Dean (111) leading the way. The incredibly in form Cameron White posted another 50. The Bear now has 485r @80 from 7 innings.

Darcy Short does not have the technique to be a red ball opener whereas Will Bosisto does. So where is Will?
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:23 am

Bye bye Charlie Hemphrey.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:28 am

Renshaw has turned round his season with some 300 runs in his last two games. Add 112 today.. his second ton on the trot and there is little argument over who is the form batsman along with veteran Cameron White plus youngsters Sam Heazlett and Josh Philippe. The most pleasing aspect of this is it is telling selectors all four are comfortable against the Dukes ball.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:38 am

If Chris Tremain is not the best quick outside of our Test attack then I know nothing about cricket.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:40 am

Mike I am having trouble getting my head around the fact Mike Neser with just 79 FC wickets @ 32 is opening the bowling for the Bulls when Ben Cutting with far greater experience..170 wickets @28 is continually overlooked.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:49 am

Baggers Neser is one of the form bowlers at the moment 21 wickets at 21 is good. And 3/9 currently. If Cutting was to play it would most likely be at the expense of Doggart who has 16 wickets at 24 or Jack Wildermuth, and it would be a brave man to drop him as he is the the top 20 batsmen and top 20 bowlers and for a No 5 bowler that is all you can ask of him. Wildermuth is probably ranked No 1 in the serious all-rounder department. Also you have to consider Neser is about 27 and Doggart, Wildermuth, Swepson are under 25, they're the future, they're performing, so no place for a 31 year old, that never rose up to the expectation at the FC level, as an all-rounder. Bowlers that average 28 after 51 FC games tend to be dropped in Queensland. Neser may follow in the next couple of years if he doesn't keep performing as he is currently.

It great to see Matthew Renshaw score his second 100 for the season joining Weatherald and Burns as the only ones to do that so far. Considering the poor start he had to the season to be in the top 5 run scorers this season is an incredible effort and shows he's back in form. The sad state is when you look at Weatherald, Burns and Renshaw, all of them would be fine in the baggy green, but all are vying for the one position, but there should be a lot of pressure on Bancroft and Khawaja and even Warner to keep producing.

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Postby MikeR68 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:54 am

Make that 4/9 now Baggers. And when you rank him he matches and if not better than 2 Australian selected bowlers in Mennie and Bird this season.

After watching players like Ferguson, Lehmann, Head, Carey, Weatherald all struggle, how good are the innings by Matthew Renshaw, Sam Heazlett, Jack Wildermuth and Jimmy Peirson. There's the future of Australian cricket.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:12 am

MikeR68 wrote:Make that 4/9 now Baggers. And when you rank him he matches and if not better than 2 Australian selected bowlers in Mennie and Bird this season.

After watching players like Ferguson, Lehmann, Head, Carey, Weatherald all struggle, how good are the innings by Matthew Renshaw, Sam Heazlett, Jack Wildermuth and Jimmy Peirson. There's the future of Australian cricket.


Mike I guess 4-9 makes a pretty good case. Yes Neser is on the improve but Cutting's original omission baffled me...still does. Doggett actually started the Redback rot with the two wickets of in form Weatherald and Head..
Renshaw definite. Heazlett, Phillipe probables, Wildermuth, Pierson possibles is how I read it Mike.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:43 am

That's the thing Baggers, you have to give the future players, whether possibles/probables/definite as much opportunity possible. NSW need to take a page from Qld book, and get rid of the rubbish regardless of how they perform. Henriques, Nevill and Maddinson are garbage and will never play for Australia again (they should never have been selected in the first place, they were selected on the back of one good season). Give some of these young players a go, Uppal is ready just coming off a good century in the futures, Ryan Gibson hasn't been given enough opportunity, Anthony Adlam is another. As for the bowlers how NSW pick Sandhu is confusing. In the last futures game for NSW, Conway took 6 wickets, Abbott 4, Sandhu took 0, and is continually selected he's played 31 games now for 70 wickets @35, that's enough. Surely Lenton has to be given a go now over Nevill.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:56 am

Blues selectors we agreed Mike should be at the funny farm. Here we have a Dukes ball which swings prodigiously. So do they bring in any decent swing bowlers to take advantage of the conditions.. no they pick all medium pace seamers. Smart.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:05 am

Mike where are you getting Futures details? Adlam I know nothing about. Sandhu has been the biggest dud since his heady early days when he took out the Steve Waugh Medal (best NSW player). He is so frustrating. Too laid back.. just dawdles in..bend your back son. Harry Conway is another that send coaches grey. If he concentrated on seam only he would have far more success. He is a giant of a man so gets good lift from a good length. but he piches full far too often.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:34 am

Mike I can see all three games with only a three day duration. Blues/Tigers game has already lost almost a full day. Bulls and Bushies in the box seat in the others. Aaron Finch only came out and hit a lazy 150 today on a belter of a WACA deck. Not a lot to assist the swinging Dukes...

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:21 pm

For the futures league baggers its on ESPN
http://www.espncricinfo.com/wi/engine/s ... 23035.html

They do fall behind in their postings so for up to date results try mycricket it's a lot more difficult to negotiate around but it gives you all rep games in the drop down

http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/common/ ... tyid=17240

http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/common/ ... =RVFIXTURE

mycricket also gives a good breakdown of a player even at club level eg Anthony Adlam

http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/common/ ... 24&eid=257

http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/common/ ... 03&eid=257

As you can see he is improving year after year and is one to watch.

For you Baggers mark this page as a favourite as it gives most of the current NSW players in the drop down, you should change the season to 2017/18 for up to date sheffield shield results (currently it is set on 2016/17 as it has come from my favourites page). Plus in the change clubs drop down it gives you which club cricket team they play for eg Hazlewood will have St George available.

http://mycricket.cricket.com.au/common/ ... tyid=11202

Hope that helps

I know you thought Moises Henriques played a good innings but I think Tasmania have proven the wicket is dead so it puts into perspective Henriques innings. If Larkin can play a decent innings there is nothing there. Probably highlights how poor Maddinson and Nevill are playing. But it is these one off innings that keep under-performing players in the side. That particular innings and also being a not out only gets Henriques to an average of 25 for the season, not something you want from a No5.

But credit to NSW they did the right thing by grabbing 2 BP in the batting but I think the groundsmen overdid it as Tasmania picked up 0.7 in the bowling and currently they will probably get 0.6 in batting and if they keep NSW down to 0.2 in the bowling NSW won't make much of a dint in the points differential maybe 1 point closer to TAS. Unfortunately Victoria will grab around 9 points today which should place them in 2nd, unless SA get an unlikely outright. But if Qld get the outright they will score 8.5 points and an outright next week against WA may see them pretty well hosting the final.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:15 pm

Mike thanks for those links. I will study them in the lunch break.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:28 am

Unlike the previous two rounds the AO is lifeless as we enter the third day with minimal lateral seam movment and while the Dukes is still swinging it is at a slowish pace so the batsman has time to adjust. Bulls are building a massive likely winning lead.

Unless George Bailey declares behind this match will ebb to a tedious draw. With the deck playing so well I can not see that happening.

Where is a second spinning option in Somerville or Fallins? There was something in the deck for the first day but it is deadish now and taking turn. Well done selectors another trick missed. Blues are now so desperate for a spinner they are using Ed Cowan and his leggies. I did not even know Ed bowled. Sandhu is also bowling his offies. Now I did know he bowled those as he was rather successful with them on an A tour to India several years ago when he still had promise.

Mike have you noticed how many right armers bowl round the wicket to lefties. Almost ad nauseum..born no doubt from limited overs cricket. I coached boys teams over the years and no way would I encourage that. Ball across the body is far harder to time.

Couple of interesting FL selections Mike...U19 star Jack Edwards and Sam Whiteman finally back from that finger injury.. Also 4 players Travis Dean, Will Bosisto, Justin Avendano, and Will Pucovski have all scored double tons. All but Avendano have been rewarded with FC cricket. I can see how Nick Larkin forced his way into the Blues squad with a lazy 338 runs from his single FL match.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:20 am

I too have noticed this constant bowling around the wicket to lefties, esp in the last Ashes series. All I can put it down to is the number of deliveries that pitch outside leg to a leftie. Generally we saw last Ashes tests a couple of times LBW decisions were referred unnecessarily upstairs as blind freddie could see they pitched outside leg. Bowling around the wicket eliminates that problem. I'm not a big fan of that particular LBW rule as an offie will spin the ball after it pitches but if it pitches outside leg it is not out. But I suppose it's there for some reason.

Qld starting to put the foot down now, looking for a declaration by tea, another 50 runs should get them to 420 required for SA. Good bowling by Winter again.

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Postby MikeR68 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:28 am

"Sandhu strikes with spin" is the headline, and you wonder how he keeps getting selected. That's the media for you. Didn't bother reporting that Sandhu has 2/121. and the bowling attack has been poor. Poor shot by Webster but he is forgiven after 136 runs. Good reflex catch by Larkin. It had nothing to do with great delivery by Sandhu.

Tasmania should throw the bat get 80 runs quickly and send NSW in, with their batting line-up anything could happen.

Nic Maddinson is on...this should be good for a laugh. Nic is now trying for an all-rounder position.

The laughs never stop with NSW we have Maddinson and Cowan bowling in tandem.

Baggers you have to admit NSW are in disarray, without Smith in the side they just can't get a win. 136 from Webster, 97 from Doran, 105* from Wade, 70* from McDermott, it's just too easy for Tasmania. 2 sixes off this Maddinson over so far, there goes his all-rounder dream.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:05 am

Disarray is the word Mike. Other than Hughes and Patterson the rest should be sacked.. that includes Henriques.. one swallow does not a summer make. Some poet wrote those words. but they ring true. Time for blokes like Gibson, Bertus, Uppal, Sams, Nair and Avendano to be given a run. Give Sangha another year. The SCG and AO decks are now belters. Even the Dukes is making no impression.

Bushies did it easy over the Warriors. A poor game by them. The Furnace is no longer a fortress. Where is their depth without the Marsh bros and Bancroft. Cartwright's form has dropped away this year but he still averages @41 whereas his top order mates Stoinis @33 and Turner @37 do not cut the mustard. Josh Philippe is an excitement machine but is he suited to open? Bosisto should open and be retained not dropped every couple of games. No player can get consistency or momentum from that policy. He is far better than his moderate @22 average.

Blues/Tigers game ends in an expected draw. Rain and a benign deck after the second day ruined that match.
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Postby MikeR68 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:25 am

Another one that can open is Daniel Solway, fairly consistent performance if you eliminate his game against Qld. Nair has to come in for both batting and bowling.

Baggers Larkin scored his runs against NSW metro not much in the bowling attack. Lenton, Daniel Solway, Bertus also scored centuries in that match so I wouldn't read much in that performance, sure try him, but he's failed try someone else.

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Postby MikeR68 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:29 am

I can't believe they've called of the match. Ben McDermott was on track for his 2nd 1st class century, he must be disappointed. I would have set 80 runs and had a bowl at NSW, you just never know.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:35 am

MikeR68 wrote:I can't believe they've called of the match. Ben McDermott was on track for his 2nd 1st class century, he must be disappointed. I would have set 80 runs and had a bowl at NSW, you just never know.
Yes Ben would not be happy. I too would have done what you said. Seems captains do not like an entertaining end to a four day match. Would prefer a tame draw. How many runs do Qld need.. isnt 430 sufficient with a day and a bit to play?

Mike has this match just reached the farcical stage. Jake Lehmann takes the ball to bowl his left armers but just as he is ready to bowl his first delivery he gets the word from his skipper that he is not bowling. Lehmann then spits the dummy and instead of handing the pill to Zampa he tosses it away. He then puts on close fielder pads but instead of going to short leg or silly mid off he goes into the outfield. Two balls later Swepson pops a ball where a short man would have gobbled it. What is going on????
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Postby MikeR68 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:42 am

Just going quick runs now for Qld, Swepson taking Zampa to the cleaners, declaration just around the corner. I think the pitch has settled a bit now so a few additional runs won't hurt. I still think SA could chase 450.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:54 am

To be honest Baggers I would struggle to put any players from NSW and Tas in my team for the week maybe Tom Rogers, especially with Dean and Finch, Chris Tremain performances, Pierson gets the keeper spot IMO important runs he has scored, and Renshaw and the other young players we mentioned before, Nick Winter has had a great game again. Neser and Worrall both bowled well. One thing I have noticed this round is that Alex Carey has been sloppy behind the stumps compared to Pierson.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:01 am

MikeR68 wrote:To be honest Baggers I would struggle to put any players from NSW and Tas in my team for the week maybe Tom Rogers, especially with Dean and Finch, Chris Tremain performances, Pierson gets the keeper spot IMO important runs he has scored, and Renshaw and the other young players we mentioned before, Nick Winter has had a great game again. Neser and Worrall both bowled well. One thing I have noticed this round is that Alex Carey has been sloppy behind the stumps compared to Pierson.

Have to agree with you Mike. Wade has hit a purple patch with the bat but his keeping is not in same street as Pierson.. plus he scored valuable runs. So he is the keeper. Renshaw is one opener. A Redback or two may come out tomorrow and score a big ton to win the match. So I will wait until the end before naming the remainder of my side.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:08 am

Just in case you missed this Mike.
Mike has this match just reached the farcical stage. Jake Lehmann takes the ball to bowl his slow left armers but just as he is ready to bowl his first delivery he gets the word from his skipper that he is not bowling. Lehmann then spits the dummy and instead of handing the pill to Zampa he tosses it away. He then puts on close fielder pads but instead of going to short leg or silly mid off he goes into the outfield. Two balls later Swepson pops a ball where a short man would have gobbled it. What is going on????

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:54 am

Could we see something special from Travis Head today. Has his 50. Still Cooper and Carey to come.. miracles do happen in cricket. On the other side of the coin Mitchell Swepson is now one of our best tweakers..could he produce a match winning spell or will the hooping Dukes in overcast have the final say? Intriguing possibilities.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:19 am

Doggett breaks the partnership.. just clipping leg? That is his third. Doggett will mature today as he faces the pressure of trying to win a vital FC match for his state.. Is it his day?

Head gets a snorter of an inswinger from Wildermuth. Is this the end for the Redbacks.

Carey with three top shelf cover drives from that Wildermuth over. Classy batting.

Redbacks still need 242 at lunch. Head was the money wicket for the Bulls.

Cooper perishes skying a short one. Should have pulled out of it.

Heartache for Carey as he holes out on 98. Proved he had the heart for the battle. Gutsy stuff. That is now the end of the brave Redback rearguard action. Carey gets my vote as our next national gloveman.

Should be all over shortly. Doggett passes the test as he is now bowling his state to a win with two in the one over.. Also has his first FC five for. Redbacks lose by more than 100 but showed plenty of ticker to the end. Carey and Head the stars with valuable contributions from Mennie and Zampa.
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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:54 am

Team of the week baggers
Renshaw
Webster
Finch
Henriques
Heazlett
Wildermuth
Jimmy Pierson (C)
Tremain
Neser
Doggart
Winter

If I had to pick a spinner it would be Sweepson for Neser. Pierson gets the W/K over Carey as Carey was sloppy behind the stumps (15 byes wasn't it) and Pierson was superb in his management of bowlers and field placement (Carey fell for the 3 card trick) and all round captaincy, perfect declaration. Carey as next keeper? highly doubtful, though he has some very useful high scores there are more low scores to get his average at only 28.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:12 am

My team of the Round:
Renshaw
Webster/Dean
Labuchagne
Head
Henriques
Finch
Carey
Tremain
Doggett
Neser
Zampa.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:13 am

Mike reckon Carey performance today just pips Pierson.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby MikeR68 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:22 am

Interesting side baggers, I imagine you go for Zampa because of his batting because 3/175 isn't that great. No Nick Winter Baggers, I thought he bowled consistently well both innings. I wasn't overly impressed with Head, too many ODI shots, where a calmer head may have got SA home.

Qld jumping 8 points clear so it makes for an interesting next round Qld win outright they should host the final. You were saying Baggers that Qld would struggle without Khawaja, when do you think this struggling will start? To be fair I am overly impressed how the young side has handled FC cricket. SA have a very strong batting side and with Winter their bowling attack is strong, it was a surprisingly strong win by the Qlders.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:41 am

That was an enthralling match. Not sure I agree with the MOM tho.This was more a batsmans deck so I will give it to Doggett for his 7-107 over Renshaw's 112. Hats off to your Bulls Mike. A pair of all rounders, a veteran and a rookie bowling attack plus a handful of young but talented batmen have stood up.
Heazlett for Head in hindsite I suppose. Yep Zampa for his valuable runs in both innings and three wickets. Both wristies struggled on this deck. Not much separated Winter and Neser I suppose. Could have gone either way.

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Postby MikeR68 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:53 am

You hit the nail on the head Baggers with your summation (and I do respect you for that), but let's be honest who do you think will ever wear the "baggy green". I can guarantee you Daniel Hughes and Kurtis Patterson will wear the cap prior to any in the Qld side, Queensland's performance will will be treated as a blip on the radar, as it has in the past as it will in the future. It will take just 1 century by those two to jump ahead of others, to replace either of the Marsh Bros, even Khawaja or Bancroft. It will be a cold day in hell when we see Bancroft, Renshaw, Burns, Smith, Head, Sam Heazlett, Jack Wildermuth, Jimmy Peirson, Cummins, Tremain, Doggett, Mitchell Swepson representing Australia. It will never happen!!!! ( If i could go further with the exclamation mark I would)

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Postby MikeR68 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:34 am

Who is Doggart? I can forgive you Tinsel, if you live in NSW. You would never have heard of him! Brendon Doggart from Toowoomaba Qld, he is an indigenous player that scored a rookie contract with CA in 2016 ( one of very few Qlders to earn such a contract as they are usually limited to NSW and Vic, as the other states are deemed worthless). He has played only 5 FC matches but has taken 21 wickets at 23 ( better than any current Australian bowler), but he will never represent Australia, mark this post.

The reason so many runs are scored for limited wickets, started a few years ago when NSW decided to play a lot of their games out of North Sydney Oval a very small ground, where Bonus points were given for runs scored within 100 overs, thus CA changed the points system to get get NSW in the final (Baggers and I would both agree it is a ridiculous points system). Instead of promoting NSW who played 5 games a season out of North Sydney Oval or a smaller oval, It ultimately backfired on NSW because they couldn't get outright wins where the real points come from. After that most teams decided bowling was the primary emphasis except NSW and to a limited extent Victoria. Plus the ridiculous drop in pitches Vic, SA, WA employ make it batsmen paradise. Only Queensland, Tasmania and to a limited extent for spinners NSW still prepare quality pitches. The Gabba today is the only pitch in Australia that is a genuine Australian pitch, thus why it is Australia's fortress, but it's curators have come to an end so it will be interesting to see where to now for the GABBA.

Currently only Queensland bowlers have the typical Australian wicket where there is a balance between ball and bat (Baggers would agree). But the problem is for Australian cricket is when you look at the domestic OD cricket it is played primarily out of the sub-par Sydney ovals, thus Australia's dramatic drop in ODI's. Australian wickets apart from WA and Qld are not conducive to pace attack, which explains Australia's below par performance overseas, as the current bowling attack for Australia are NSWmen, who have no idea how to bowl quality deliveries on "dead wickets" and rely on movement off the pitch and overcast conditions to actually do anything with the ball.

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Postby MikeR68 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:53 am

Baggers do you think they're reading our posts?

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/dukes-b ... 2018-03-01

How much money do you think we should ask? You being an ex-journalist and all.

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Postby Boycs » Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:17 am

Oooo is baggers someone famous?

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Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:28 am

Boycs wrote:Oooo is baggers someone famous?
No boycs.. just a sports hack in another life.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:49 am

MikeR68 wrote:You hit the nail on the head Baggers with your summation (and I do respect you for that), but let's be honest who do you think will ever wear the "baggy green". I can guarantee you Daniel Hughes and Kurtis Patterson will wear the cap prior to any in the Qld side, Queensland's performance will will be treated as a blip on the radar, as it has in the past as it will in the future. It will take just 1 century by those two to jump ahead of others, to replace either of the Marsh Bros, even Khawaja or Bancroft. It will be a cold day in hell when we see Bancroft, Renshaw, Burns, Smith, Head, Sam Heazlett, Jack Wildermuth, Jimmy Peirson, Cummins, Tremain, Doggett, Mitchell Swepson representing Australia. It will never happen!!!! ( If i could go further with the exclamation mark I would)
It will be a cold day in hell when we see Bancroft, Renshaw, Burns, Smith, Head, Sam Heazlett, Jack Wildermuth, Jimmy Peirson, Cummins, Tremain, Doggett, Mitchell Swepson representing Australia. It will never happen!!!!
Mike i feel the same way you do. Selectors should pick on performance. Hughes is not quite Test material.. whereas Patterson is but only when he starts converting his 70s/80s into triple figures regularly. If more QLDers want to wear a Baggy Green Mike they must become more consistent. Burns bounced back from his dropping and is now far more consistent. Consistency wins national caps.. or it should. So whether a bloke wears a blue, red or black or maroon cap.. if he is not consistent then he should remain outside of the national team.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:04 am

Bancroft, Renshaw, Burns, Smith, Head, Sam Heazlett, Jack Wildermuth, Jimmy Peirson, Cummins, Tremain, Doggett. This would make a good team Mike. Lets run thru them. Bancroft has confidence issues and is close to an axing. His brain fade yesterday indicates that. Renshaw is my long term opener...Weatherald is lurking. Burns deserves another shot. Can bat anywhere. Smith needs no comment. Head is another, like Patterson who has trouble converting. Early days for Sam Heazlett.. but he is a goodie and should wear a BG. Also early days for the promising bowling all rounder Wildermuth. Cartwright is still a CA fave but needs a return to form to be next cab off the rank. You know my views on Pierson. Careys record last year has him on keeper radar when Timmy gives it away. Swepson, Agar or Nair.. happy with either one as long term spinner. Dont discount Fallins. Cummins, Tremain yes.. Doggett is still a rookie. I would have Jhye Richardson ahead of him. But believe me Mike Hazlewood is going nowhere and either is Starc. Jason Behrendorff is still my fave leftie. Needs to get back on the park and soon otherwise he will be forgotten. Nick Winter should be given some international cricket as I think he would be a sensation in the Ashes in England next year.

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Re: BAGGY GREEN: The Many Faces Of Australian Cricket

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:23 pm

Mike the Blues/Bushies game only one today. Not sure why CA is suddenly splitting the round. You have any ideas. We got our wish with Param Uppal likely to make his FC debut. Sean Abbott returns.. why not Mickey Edwards who did nothing wrong on his debut? Talk about killing a bloke's confidence. Teams have not been named as yet but Bushies will bat on this dreadful drop in. Expect tedium ad nauseum today.