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Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby asterix » Fri Jun 04, 2010 10:27 pm


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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby bharathh » Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:35 am

She is pretty hot... it will be interesting to see what the outcome of the case is.

Too bad there was noone like her working in any of my jobs :(

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby Asim » Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:54 am

Just having big B*****S makes some one hot?

If thats the reason she was fired then it's wrong.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby raja » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:22 am

Obviously if her looks were the reason she was fired, it is wrong.

I am not familiar with how these things work but now that she has filed a suit, does she have to prove that they fired her because of her looks or does Citi have to prove that they fired her for reasons other than her looks ?

She better have some evidence to back her case because otherwise it could be seen as if she is using her looks to get some money out of Citi.

Personally, I do not consider her hot at all - but that is just me. :-)

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby SuperGLS » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:15 pm

Haha, she's good looking, not like super hot though.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby Ankur » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:30 pm

She is good looking, nothing special. It seems she was fired because she was wearing inappropriate office attire despite warnings.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby Asim » Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:18 pm

I think she was hired because she was hot or whatever, then found out that she was no good at all when it come to work so had to fire her.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby Ranjith » Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:34 pm

Her boss was probably Gay! :P

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby asterix » Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:14 pm

She certainly is a distraction. But I wouldn't complain though.. :grin:

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby AndrewHughes » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:12 pm

Dear God, I knew American standards of journalism were poor but this is shockingly bad. I watched, waiting for the part where the journalist related to us why the woman had been dismissed. I'm still waiting. So approximately 90% of the news content of this 'story' is missing. Obviously she wasn't dismissed because she was too attractive. That would be absurd. A dreadful piece of reporting. Utter drivel. The only surprise is that it wasn't Fox News.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby asterix » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:00 pm

'Good looking' banker set to sue again

The New York banker who claims she was fired 'for being too good looking' has vowed to sue her new employer if they try to sack her, despite already breaching the company's code of conduct.
Debrahlee Lorenzana, 33, has continued to speak publicly of her lawsuit against ex-employer Citibank despite the fact that it could mean the loss of her new job, the Daily News reported.

Lorenzana and her lawyer claim that her new employer, JP Morgan Chase, has already threatened to fire her after her appearance on an American morning show.
"Even if she didn't come on this show this morning, she's already violated their code of conduct," her lawyer said.
Lorenzana claims she hasn't conducted any interviews on company time, and that she performed the most recent interview on a day off.
Her lawyer has said that they will file another lawsuit if JP Morgan Chase dismisses her.
"If they fire her, absolutely," he said.

Lorenzana claims she was fired from Citibank for wearing headlineoutfits that were too distracting for male colleagues.

Male customers who visited Lorenzana's Citibank branch have confirmed her 'hotness.'
"I would walk the extra few blocks just to go to this one to see her," publicist Matt Saulk, told The Daily News.
Another customer, Harold Mack used to like the "business-casual" outfits she wore.
"Whew, she was a hot one," he said.
"I'm sad she's gone, but she did stick out.
"I know she distracted me whenever I came into the bank."
Lorenzana claims her body has always drawn attention from males.

http://www.iinet.net.au/customers/news/ ... 66440.html

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby Ankur » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:06 pm

Lorenzana claims she was fired from Citibank for wearing headlineoutfits that were too distracting for male colleagues.

Male customers who visited Lorenzana's Citibank branch have confirmed her 'hotness.'
"I would walk the extra few blocks just to go to this one to see her," publicist Matt Saulk, told The Daily News.
Another customer, Harold Mack used to like the "business-casual" outfits she wore.



Ankur wrote:She is good looking, nothing special. It seems she was fired because she was wearing inappropriate office attire despite warnings.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby SuperGLS » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:40 pm

If she keeps this up she'll have her own reality show.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby bharathh » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:03 pm

Perhaps that's her real objective.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby raja » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:15 pm

So now if she gets fired by JP Morgan she is going to sue them, according to the lawyer.
Of course he will say so - he must be laughing all the way to the bank (pun intended).

On another note, I really did not find her all that attractive.
But reading the comments of customers, I am beginning to wonder - is it me? :-)

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby asterix » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:19 pm

raja wrote:So now if she gets fired by JP Morgan she is going to sue them, according to the lawyer.
Of course he will say so - he must be laughing all the way to the bank (pun intended).

On another note, I really did not find her all that attractive.
But reading the comments of customers, I am beginning to wonder - is it me? :-)


Yes, it is you.. :twisted:

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby raja » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:28 pm

:grin:

Hey, it is not like she is Konkona-pretty.
Now if this were Konkona, I can imagine guys falling all over her.

But THIS girl?
I have worked with far more attractive people at my work - and I daresay, they were both attractive and very sweet.

Somehow this girl does not seem to come across as very likeable either. Apart from having a very exaggerated opinion of her looks IMO.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby bharathh » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:38 pm

:grin:

She wasn't fired for being too pretty Raja ... She was fired for being too "hot"

She is not beautiful in the traditional sense of the word. However she is rather hot.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby raja » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:51 pm

And what does "hot" mean?
She is not even somebody who would be a head-turner on a busy New York street IMO.
But then I probably do not know what "hot" is.
So can somebody please explain? :grin:

I somehow get the feeling that this subject is getting out of my league now. :grin:

Maybe I am just too old - but hey, one is never too old to learn, right?
Especially about "hot" subjects like this. :grin:

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby asterix » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:59 pm

Raja bhai, by HOT means like this:

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If I was her collegue, I would naturally be distracted..:grin:

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby timydamonkey » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:15 pm

Breaching a company's code of conduct? Now my knowledge of code of conducts pretty much extend to websites rather than work, but on taking a job wouldn't you have to submit to following that code of conduct? If not, that's a purposeless code of conduct.

If so, if she gets a laywer they'd have to be really dim or want publicity, because I can't really see a case in being expected to follow something you agreed to follow on being hired. You break the conditions of being hired, you get fired. It's not rocket science. Trying to edge around them instead of following them or discussing the issue with them or asking if what they're doing is appropriate is just childish.

I wonder if she realises that she wouldn't win - and would still have to pay court fees, I'd assume! Not to mention she's simply highlighting herself to be a troublesome employee - who wants somebody who wants to roughshod over the rules?

I'm not a fan of shoddy journalism. It would be sexist to fire somebody for being a woman or being 'hot' - but code of conduct breaches are a different thing entirely.

You could argue the code of conduct is stupid or singles out women (I don't know, I haven't read it, but wouldn't be surprised if it did since according to some women are distracting due to... well, being women) - but that's pointless when you've agreed to follow it anyway!

I wouldn't miss our "if in doubt, sue people" culture, I really wouldn't. (Though I suspect lawyers wouldn't complain about the legal fees...!)

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby asterix » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:23 pm

I think she is trying to launch her career in Show Biz..The more controversial she gets, the better..

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby timydamonkey » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:35 pm

asterix wrote:I think she is trying to launch her career in Show Biz..The more controversial she gets, the better..


I wonder what she'd do with the inevitable hate mail.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby SuperGLS » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:06 am

Like I said, she's good looking, but not hot. Her face is the part that stops her from being hot as it were. Now I sound mean, but there it is.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby AndrewHughes » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:06 am

but on taking a job wouldn't you have to submit to following that code of conduct?


You would indeed, though the code of conduct itself would have to be legal. Private companies have a habit of making things up as they go along, legally. It's like when shops tell you you can't return things if they are faulty. You can, because that's the law and it makes no difference what some grubby little shopkeeper/managing director has dreamed up at a strategy meeting, the law overrules all.

But then we come back to the shoddy journalism. There is a large chunk of this 'story' missing, that is, er, what she was sacked for, or more specifically, what part of the company's code of conduct did she breach?

But then that is far too boring to research. Far more fun for the news network to run the 'sacked for being hot' story.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby asterix » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:41 am

Andrew,

Here's the link of the news about her first sacking.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaki ... 5874799394

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby AndrewHughes » Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:55 am

Thanks Asterix, this paper makes a better stab at it but the story is also light on information, most, if not all the quotes come from the woman concerned or her legal advisor. If it is true that she has been dismissed or discriminated against because she is considered by some to be attractive, then that is of course, appalling, but there is no evidence that that is what has happened. There are hints that there may have been a breach of the dress code, but nothing more. If those quotes attributed to the manager and assistant manager were correct, then it should have been they who were dismissed not her. But 'if' is the key word.

There may be a good story in here somewhere, if any of the journalists involved could be bothered to finish doing their job. At the moment, we have half a story, or in the case of the CNN report, a quarter of a story.

Bottom line here, the story is only running because news editors consider the woman concerned is attractive and that many viewers/readers will also be of that opinion. They are discriminating on the basis of her physical appearance, just as they allege her employers were doing.

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Re: Woman fired from bank 'for being too hot'

Postby raja » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:22 am

It does look like the story being put out there is one-sided. From her / her lawyer's side.
We don't have a spokesperson for Citi giving Citi's side of the story.
Maybe that person is not "hot" enough for the camera to waste time on him/her.

Her claim may still be valid but without listening to both sides of the story, it is difficult to take a standpoint.

I maintain that for me, she is just meh (merely exaggerated hot!).