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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by Paddles » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:42 am

raja wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:23 am
Paddles wrote:
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raja wrote:
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3 different formats right now (maybe a 4th coming soon).

Countries that don't play Test or ODI cricket do not even need to get into the intricacies of these, if that's going to confuse them.

Let them only learn about T20 - and focus 100% on it.

If China knows only T20 from day one, they will specialise in it, and hopefully beat the crap out of BCCI one day.

See, there really is NO confusion. :)

You're just using this as another opportunity to bash Test cricket. :)
Dude, I love you as a cricket fan brother, and you know so much about the game and its history, but you just exposed yourself here.

The whole ICC method is staggered.

You start with t20. Once you get good at that and rise up to a certain level. You then get 50 over opportunities. Once you get good enough at that, you then get tests.

That's the whole model. And AFG has nailed it.

Ireland and Kenya before them started before t20, so its been a bit more up and down. But the thing is, you have to prove competence at one, before you get the next. And that's a logical and fair system.

My point was as a response to GS saying multiple formats will confuse new entrants.

Clearly T20 is the easiest format to embrace for any new entrant.
There's no need for it to start off by learning other formats.
If they excel in T20, they could become Olympic champions.

That would be huge for their country - and give cricket a great boost in that country.
Whether this translates into other formats, we have to see.

If it does, fantastic.
If it doesn't, that's ok too.

You can promote a sport, but whether it will pick up or not, is not in your hands.
Cricket is competing for time with a lot of other leisure activities, not just sports.
ICC's job is to promote cricket globally.
Not just Test cricket globally.

If in 25 years' time, 100+ countries are actively playing T20 cricket (like football), there are cricket grounds in these countries, you have a UECA league (like a UEFA league) , the ICC would have done a fantastic job of promoting the game.

Maybe we have only 15 Test playing countries, because only 3 more managed to make the cut to Test cricket. (We have 12 now?)
I'd certainly like it to be more, because Test cricket (for me) has a charm, but if more countries do not adopt it, despite ICC efforts, that's ok with me.

Afghanistan and Ireland took a certain route.
Doesn't mean other countries will take the same route.
Ireland followed the route presented to them. They nailed it eventually. AFG had a different route, they nailed it too. Scotland is the next in line, or NED, to nail the routes given to them. But they are logical routes pending the formats of the time. That's the difference between ADG and IRE. Kenya, they failed big time. They are loss story for development. But SL, Ban, Ire and AFG are success stories. People at the ICC know what to do. Kenya either had a failed system, or relied too heavily on a single gifted player or two. But we all know its a team game. A player can win a single game. A team is required to win many games.

Let's have more success stories :)



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Ideas to improve cricket

Post by going south » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:57 am

One game. One format.
Imagine, would soccer be this popular if there are 3 different formats ?
Would NFL be this popular if there are 3 different formats ?
Would soccer be this popular if two teams play for 5 days for deciding who won in a face-off between two teams?
Nobody has that much time to follow a 5 day match.
Only retired people can spare 5 continues days to watch sports.
Cricket should be condensed for 4 hour game, preferably played in the evening after work or people watch it for couple of hours with a can of beer.
That’s what makes a game popular.


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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by Paddles » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:24 pm

You talking fuzball, indo soccer or soccer?

Rugby has 7's.

Basketball has 2, 3 and 5 a side...

There will be two basketballs at that Olympics btw...

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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by going south » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:56 pm

TIME

Does Olympics has “time” for conducting test cricket or even ODI cricket?

All different sports formats of other sports can co-exist just because they are under 5 hours on time. Duh!!

Find a cricket format that’s different from T20 but gives me a result within 5 hours, I am ok for that too.

If you cannot, there is no point in discussing any further.

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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by Paddles » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:53 am

going south wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:56 pm
TIME

Does Olympics has “time” for conducting test cricket or even ODI cricket?

All different sports formats of other sports can co-exist just because they are under 5 hours on time. Duh!!

Find a cricket format that’s different from T20 but gives me a result within 5 hours, I am ok for that too.

If you cannot, there is no point in discussing any further.
I REPEAT, IF THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES CAN DO A 50 OVER TOURNAMENT WITHIN ITS SMALLER TIME CONTRAINTS - THEN YES THE OLYMPICS CAN TOO.

But they won't. It will be Hundred or T20 format. We know this.

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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by going south » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:44 am

What do you need to do to avoid 4 day test matches ?

How do you ensure that there is always a result for a test match after 5 days of hard work ?

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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by Paddles » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:45 am

going south wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:44 am
What do you need to do to avoid 4 day test matches ?

How do you ensure that there is always a result for a test match after 5 days of hard work ?
I have no issue with 4 day tests if they schedule a 5th day for any rain outs.

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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by raja » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:19 am

Another idea to improve cricket

Instead of 11 vs 11 players, have 101 vs 101.

Instead of 10 wickets to get you runs, you have 100 wickets.
So 101 batsmen get a chance to bat.
But fielding remains at 11 player thing.
(You could even make it 15 or so, if you want to shorten the game).

You could keep it as a 1-innings game, but I suspect 2-innings are always more fun, so maybe keep it as 2-innings.
So each of your 101 players will have an opportunity to bat twice.

The match will have a scheduled time frame of one month, if it is a 2-innings game.

How does this idea sound?

The more I think of it, the more I'm liking it. :-)

We could call this version Marathon Cricket, or Month Cricket.

As opposed to ODI or T20.

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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by going south » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:49 am

Some teams can’t find 11 batsmen itself.


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Re: Ideas to improve cricket

Post by Paddles » Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:15 am

raja wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:19 am
Another idea to improve cricket

Instead of 11 vs 11 players, have 101 vs 101.

Instead of 10 wickets to get you runs, you have 100 wickets.
So 101 batsmen get a chance to bat.
But fielding remains at 11 player thing.
(You could even make it 15 or so, if you want to shorten the game).

You could keep it as a 1-innings game, but I suspect 2-innings are always more fun, so maybe keep it as 2-innings.
So each of your 101 players will have an opportunity to bat twice.

The match will have a scheduled time frame of one month, if it is a 2-innings game.

How does this idea sound?

The more I think of it, the more I'm liking it. :-)

We could call this version Marathon Cricket, or Month Cricket.

As opposed to ODI or T20.
Dude, NZ and Aus only have 6 FC teams. Think Ireland is 3. Afg like 4 perhaps...

Just cos SL and India have 459 FC teams... You know India at home would just play 4 spinners, Bumrah and 95 batsmen. But I think Saha would be the keeper in the squad.

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