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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby raja » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:15 pm

And now Mitch Marsh goes.
This is an Aussie side that lacks skill and temperament.
Am SO glad we have the Ashes behind us for now.
Had England played this side, they'd have handed out a 5-0 drubbing.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:17 pm

Shaun Marsh looked all at sea against this spinner all series

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby raja » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:17 pm

And now Shaun.
96/6.
Aussie spectators in the crowd will be feeling they want to get their money back.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby raja » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:18 pm

Anyway, I have a bit of hope now.
The two best Aussie batsmen, Paine and Cummins, now at the crease.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:19 pm

Lyon at #9 OMG we have three #11's in this line up

there is no batting to come at all.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:20 pm

raja wrote:Anyway, I have a bit of hope now.
The two best Aussie batsmen, Paine and Cummins, now at the crease.


the only two Aussies in this series with a pass mark

Khawaja is the best batsman in this line up though

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:34 pm

Tim Paine needs to play with his blade not his handle else he's going to be experiencing more pain

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:34 pm

RSA won this day 3-0

5-1 ahead now in sessions

CA XI further behind at the end of the day than they were at the start

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Verity » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:12 pm

What a fall from grace for Australia after the first Test I thought South Africa were a struggling team on the rebuild and Australia were the best in the world.... no now..
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Boycs » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:48 pm

I personally would say South Africa have been the most consistently strong side of my cricket watching career. Every other side has had periods of really shite cricket and average-at-best line ups. Yes south Africa have had strong and less-strong players at times but I’d say they’ve never had a period since 2003 where they’ve not been at least a very competitive side and a challenge to beat.

I mean look at the teams. Consistently producing fast bowlers from ntini and pollock to steyn, morkel, philander and now rabada and batsmen like smith, kallis, Boucher, AB, amla, faf. They’ve not always been the best team in the world but unlike India England or Australia I can’t recall them having a “shit” period like England post 2006-2008, Australia 2009-2011, England now, India a few years back pre-kohli captaincy, Pakistan and Sri Lanka post-mass-retirements, West Indies for nearly fifteen years now...

South Africa seem to have always been there, punching as middleweights at their worst and top flight heavyweights at their best

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby MikeR68 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:19 pm

Time for Australia to re-build. Following their series loss to Sri Lanka and the drawn series against Bangladesh, now the first time Australia has lost a series against South Africa in South Africa since their re-introduction, and will now most probably will fall behind New Zealand in the test rankings, it is official, worst side Australia has produced in the last 30 years, worst batting line up, worst bowling line up, and not cohesive as a unit. But there are some interesting points to be learnt from.

Renshaw and Burns you can't blame for any poor performances, they've been thrown in the worst case scenario possible, this is their 7th game in 8 weeks plus add in jet lag, CA disrupting training in their quest to find out what fools have been doing etc. Handscomb is more of a concern but lack of matches could be reason, but Khawaja and the Marsh Brothers up and down form is a worrying sign that things just aren't right. All of these batsmen have been dominate at shield level, why so poor at international level

Pat Cummins form is great at the moment, no concerns at all, probably clears him of all wrong doings, he's just not worried about anything. 18 wickets @ 23 for the series

Lyons probably bowling as expected in South Africa, but went for a few too many runs but who else is there in the spinning department. 14 wickets @ 40 shows he had to bowl too much.

Mitchell Starc, 12 wickets @ 34 is not great but made worse by the fact that he took 9/109 in the first test, the 3/300+ in the next 2 games, position must be on the line, the unplayable in-swinging yorkers are too few and far between.

Josh Hazlewood offers heaps of interesting points.

First 12 wickets @ 36 is poor.

This current test is the 5th time Josh has led the bowling attack (i.e. without Starc nor Johnson, nor Harris) with this likely loss looming his record is 3 losses and 2 draws. Some would say not Josh's fault, but his figures suggest otherwise. V India (Ranchi) 1/103, V India (Dharamsala) 1/65, V Bangladesh (Dhaka) 0/42, V England (Melbourne) 3/95 and this current test probably won't bowl again 0/86. So when Josh has lead the attack 5 wickets @ 78.5, I wouldn't say those are a leaders figures.

In Australia's last 5 away series (New Zealand, Sri Lanka, India, Bangladesh, South Africa) his average is 36.

So apart from his domination of the West Indies and New Zealand in Australia (his overall av against NZ is 22 wickets @33), Josh hasn't really done much to justify the accolades he receives.

So where to now for Australia? The answer may lie with Usman Khawaja. When Khawaja left NSW for Qld he gave the following reason. To improve his batting against a variety of bowlers to put him in good stead for playing at an international level. Playing for NSW he was facing in the nets Starc who only bowls an unplayable yorker and sprays the ball otherwise, Hazlewood, Bollinger, Copeland, Josh Lalor who bowl wide of off and wait for batsmen to play a rash stroke, Shane Watson not overly productive, 2nd rate spinners in O'keefe, Nathan Hauritz, Smith. When facing these types of bowlers it creates muscle memory in playing strokes against deliveries best left alone, which showed when Khawaja first played for Australia, and he was subsequently dropped. This is sounding all too familiar with the current Australia side, whereas the South Africans are prepared to leave those wide deliveries and play balls off their stumps well, afterall that is how South Africa bowl.

How does Steve Smith develop a technique of walking across his stumps? It's not from any coaching manual i've ever read. Facing Hazlewood, Bollinger, Copeland in the nets, it's a way of getting behind the ball. International quality bowlers who aim at the stumps will be his undoing and was against South Africa. England bowlers were slower and gave him more time.

Good bowling sides produce good batsmen due to net practice and the creation of muscle memory. It has in the past, it will in the future.
Lillee/Thompson = Greg and Ian Chappell, Rick McCosker, Allan Border, Doug Walters, etc etc
McDermott/Hughes = Taylor, Boon, Mark and Steve Waugh, Dean Jones, Justin Langer, Matthew Hayden, Ricky Ponting

How does Australia improve their bowling? Bowlers that are very productive at shield level but fail at international level, because shield batsmen play rash shots at deliveries best left alone and that makes the bowlers look good.

Australia probably should have a bowling camp for the best around Australia. Starc, Hazlewood could benefit bowling alongside the likes of Tremain, Worrall, Feldman, Neser, Bolland, Behrendorff, Bird, Siddle and youthful bowlers like Richardson, Winter, Rogers, Bell Doggart and Wildermuth can also learn from them. Upcoming spinners can learn from Lyons, Ahmed, and Agar.

How to make Hazlewood better, get Harris to teach him about correct lines at the top of off stump, if Harris isn't available get McGrath. Improve Starc and Cummins get Johnson to help with their development, the ball didn't always swing for Johnson but he had other tricks. Afterall you don't win ICC international cricketer of the year twice especially as a bowler if there isn't any talent. Get Bichel to help with the fitness training he has done wonders for QLD. Who the hell is David Saker anyway? A 52 year old, over-weight, never played for Australia, averaged 31 at FC level, nobody. Those that can't do..Teach.

Get the bowlers right, the batsmen will follow. Why this won't occur is CA is willing to throw money at under-performing players such as Starc and Hazlewood, but won't spend money to help them improve, all these ideas would cost so CA won't do it. So change the hierarchy at CA.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Loose halo » Sat Mar 31, 2018 11:24 pm

How I hate to see openers getting caught behind the wicket.

Marsh brothers fail when needed.

Wonder whether our ODI team can do better in England?

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:33 am

Loose halo wrote:How I hate to see openers getting caught behind the wicket.

Marsh brothers fail when needed.

Wonder whether our ODI team can do better in England?


at least they wont lose by an innings

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:26 am

raja wrote:This is just poor batting.
Poor judgment by each of these guys.
Bowling is decent-to-good, nothing spectacular.
Agree. Aussie morale is rock bottom at moment and it showed. Burns has not learnt a thing from his earlier stint in the Baggy Green. Still prodding at balls he should be leaving. Renshaw played at a wide ball that he too should have left. He was just beginning to look comfortable too. While Handscomb's leaden footed technique caused him to play on. Missed Mitch amd SOS dismissals? Ussie probably saved his career with a timely half ton. Enjoyed his use of feet against Maharaj.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:27 am

Marsh brothers fail when needed.

Wonder whether our ODI team can do better in England?
[/quote][quote="Loose halo"]How I hate to see openers getting caught behind the wicket.

specially when they bring about their own fate with poor shots.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:29 am

Mikes morning novelette. One bad day and you are Hazlewood bashing again. Mate take a look at the ICC Test bowler rankings. Top ranked Aussie quick.. fifth ranked in the world. Appears the gentlemen on ICC Committee do not share your views.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:47 am

Boycs wrote:I personally would say South Africa have been the most consistently strong side of my cricket watching career. Every other side has had periods of really shite cricket and average-at-best line ups. Yes south Africa have had strong and less-strong players at times but I’d say they’ve never had a period since 2003 where they’ve not been at least a very competitive side and a challenge to beat.

I mean look at the teams. Consistently producing fast bowlers from ntini and pollock to steyn, morkel, philander and now rabada and batsmen like smith, kallis, Boucher, AB, amla, faf. They’ve not always been the best team in the world but unlike India England or Australia I can’t recall them having a “shit” period like England post 2006-2008, Australia 2009-2011, England now, India a few years back pre-kohli captaincy, Pakistan and Sri Lanka post-mass-retirements, West Indies for nearly fifteen years now...

South Africa seem to have always been there, punching as middleweights at their worst and top flight heavyweights at their best
They were walloped by Australia last time.. in fact have lost every home based series against the BGs since readmission.(until now)

Thankfully (for their opponents) their champions.. AB dV, Amla, Philly, Steyn will leave the game shortly and like teams before SA will struggle for several seasons to replace that quality.

Australia on other hand need to rebuild the nucleus of a new cricket team together with a more respectful culture.

It is easy to see those batsmen raised on the fast, bouncy (but little movement) tracks at home are still struggling against the moving ball. Younger players thriving against the Dukes ball in Shield cricket should be picked now and groomed for next years Ashes. I would include all of those on the Shield top run/wickets list as strong candidates. Cal Ferguson &Joe Burns perhaps excluded. If I were Joe I would be looking at county cricket in the off season.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:09 am

Katto wrote:
raja wrote:Anyway, I have a bit of hope now.
The two best Aussie batsmen, Paine and Cummins, now at the crease.


the only two Aussies in this series with a pass mark

Khawaja is the best batsman in this line up though


5,1, 4, 75,14, 6 . Ussies last six innings before today. Figures dont lie. All very well having the best technique but no good if not firing.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:55 am

Wonder whether our ODI team can do better in England?

I wanna see our leading Shield bowlers get the nod for this ODI tour. The Dukes will be in use I expect. Take a punt on Nick Winter.. would be a good audition for next years Ashes. Chris Tremain has earned his spot. Jhye Richardson or namesake Kane should also be in our attack.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby raja » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:46 am

Interesting thoughts from Boycs and Mike today.

On Boycs' thoughts:
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I agree that SA has been the most consistent side of them all - thanks mainly to a steady stream of good cricketers coming through.
Smith retiring early should've hurt them more than it has.
Kallis was their rock for so many years - and yet, they're managing fairly decently without him.

I think SA's strength, since readmission, has always been their bowling. I've never known them to have a weak fast bowling attack.
I'm not good at data analysis but can someone check average team score against SA, compared to other teams?
This allows their average (or at best decent, but by no means, high-quality) batting not to get embarrassed.

Other teams don't have this. BCCI were highly embarrassed in England and Australia in 2011, when their once-performing batsmen came a cropper. Their bowling continued to get hit to all corners of the park, but it was the batsmen who let them down.

Australia struggled once Haydos/Gilly/Warne/McGrath left the scene. These were just too big boots to fill. These type of cricketers stand out in any generation - Australia had them all in one. Punter & Pup (and Smith) were always going to struggle to win games without players of this quality.

As for Engand, I don't think they've had too many ups and downs. Their high performers (Flintoff, KP, Vaughan, Strauss) have all been phased out without any tremors. The real test will be when Anderson and Broad leave the scene. But I'm confident England will find their replacements. Their county system regularly throws up quality - and, worst case, they can always count on SA/NZ/Aus to fill in the blanks. :-)

On Mike's thoughts:
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Totally agree that the bowling first needs to be fixed, cos it makes the batsmen look better than they are.
This explains why Aussie batsmen are getting loads of runs in Shield cricket, but getting thoroughly exposed at international level.
This tendency for top-order batsmen to fish outside the off-stump (a schoolboy error) is annoying. (Other teams have this too, but Australia cannot afford to do this, given it has too many weak links at the moment. Each one needs to be tightened - and they can start with this).

No doubt, it is looking bleak for Australia right now - and part of it is definitely down to poor quality. It's easy to put this particular showing now down to low team morale, but that only makes an already poor team perform even worse.

I don't follow the Aussie domestic circuit keenly but if there are young players who show potential (with batting or bowling), I'd immediately put them under the mentorship of some able ex-cricketers. Each of these players could be tomorrow's Aussie star - or could just waste away, given the generally negative environment at the moment. We need guys like McGrath, Warne to tutor next gen's quicks / spinners, we need a Chappelli to mentor young batsmen.

Aussie cricket can come out of this - but it has to build itself back from the basics. Focus on skills and temperament - forget sledging, cheating and all else that has completely distracted us from the basics.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:04 am

Aussie cricket can come out of this - but it has to build itself back from the basics. Focus on skills and temperament - forget sledging, cheating and all else that has completely distracted us from the basics.

This ball tampering blown out of all proportion incident could be a blessing in disguise. There needed to be change from within.. this could well be the catalyst for that change. Gone is a weak leader in Smith.. a disruptive influence in Warner and a coach that took his eye off the ball in Lehmann.

Who will now be the nucleus of the Aussie side for the next 12 months.. ie the batting leadership group. Tim Paine should be one, Usman Khawaja too. Not sure about the future of Shaun Marsh. He is almost 35. Besides a paltry 127 runs this tour from a senior player hardly screams out "pick me again". SOS has been given many chances but continues to fall short more often than not. Mitch Marsh has not cemented his spot. Doubts remain over the long term prospects of Peter Handscomb.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:12 am

There are several batsmen shoving at rather than smashing down the door at domestic level in Jake Weatherald, Marnus Labuchagne and Jake Doran. Limited overs specialist Travis Head is improving his consistency every year and should be now considered for the longer form.. Among the veterans are Callum Ferguson, George Bailey and Cameron White..all of whom are still making mountain of runs.

We need guys like McGrath, Warne to tutor next gen's quicks / spinners, we need a Chappelli to mentor young batsmen.

To my knowledge McGrath is still tied up with running the MRF Pace Foundation Academy in India so his time is limited. Warne only commits to consultancy work for CA. Chappelli continues to hurt our eardrums as a Nine commentator. But I see your point.

Thankfully Australia has a very good Youth Pathway Program. So we will continue to produce quality cricketers for generations to come.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:28 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:
the only two Aussies in this series with a pass mark

Khawaja is the best batsman in this line up though


5,1, 4, 75,14, 6 . Ussies last six innings before today. Figures dont lie. All very well having the best technique but no good if not firing.


who else has done any better?

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:29 am

Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse, Tim Paine has broken his thumb

the good news is he probably won't have to field again on this tour

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:33 am

Philander didn't turn around to appeal to the umpire, just keep running straight ahead

imagine if an Aussie did that, he'd be sent home

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Verity » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:51 am

“He was sitting in the dressing room with Bancroft and they came up with this ruse. As I understand it, Steve looked over to them and said, ‘What are you blokes up to? Oh, I don’t want to know’. He went out onto the field and he probably should have been more vigilant, as I said.”


Is that all Smith really done???

f**k its harsh on him..
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:52 am

1 short of 100 partnership

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:52 am

Well batted Pat Cummins.. put most of our top order to shame.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:54 am

Timmy has brittle digits.. another break. I recall the ball when it happened.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:01 am

Can the Baggies avoid the follow on?

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:37 am

talk is RSA wont enforce because of Morkel injury

I would say they wont get to 288 because Lyon, Sayers and Hazlewood can't bat

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:43 am

Lyon gone already
this won't last long unless Paine can farm the strike

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:53 am

Katto wrote:talk is RSA wont enforce because of Morkel injury

I would say they wont get to 288 because Lyon, Sayers and Hazlewood can't bat
Do they need Morkel?

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 10:55 am

Katto wrote:Lyon gone already
this won't last long unless Paine can farm the strike
Tim does not believe in farming the strike. Reason he has been praised for doing such a good job with the tail this tour.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:01 am

As the pick of the SA quicks Philly should be finishing off this.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:04 am

Dean Elgar's got hands like pillows

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:04 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:Lyon gone already
this won't last long unless Paine can farm the strike
Tim does not believe in farming the strike. Reason he has been praised for doing such a good job with the tail this tour.


he's farmed the strike every time he's batted with #11

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:05 am

Gritty stuff skipper.. and with a fractured thumb.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:07 am

I don't know why he played that shot. Didn't seem necessary at all.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby bolero » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:15 am

Morkel is injured.So I doubt whether SA would enforce follow on with 1 bowler short.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:25 am

Hazlewood has a chance to make amends for an ordinary first innings.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:50 am

Good Luck Haze in next 57 overs.

In my book the mark of a good bowler is the amount of times he makes the batsman play. Hazey does it more than most.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:03 pm

In my book the mark of a good bowler is the amount of wickets he takes

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Tinsel » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:13 pm

SOA 300 for 0
Over all

I wonder when Bevan took 6 wickets here in test?
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:24 pm

Our three main bowlers unable to prise apart the SA openers. Markram and Elgar again getting away from us.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:25 pm

Tinsel wrote:SOA 300 for 0
Over all

I wonder when Bevan took 6 wickets here in test?
1997 I believe.

A good a record as Lyon has.. he is never going to run thru a side. A wristie would have been a better bet against the SAffers Imo.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:30 pm

the anti Lyon agenda continues

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:33 pm

The inform bowler Cummins has the inform batsman Markram.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:35 pm

Amla in

Hazlewood in 3...2...1..

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:37 pm

Katto wrote:the anti Lyon agenda continues
No not anti Lyon. He has won my respect with huge improvement last 12/18 months. But he is no Warne, Kumble, Murali three guys that could win you a match. All wristies.. tho technically Murali was a finger spinner.
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