South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

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South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Leo » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:43 am

Fixture

1st Test: March 1-5 at Kingsmead, Durban

2nd Test: March 9-13 at St George's Park, Port Elizabeth

3rd Test: Mar 22-26 at Newlands, Cape Town

4th Test: Mar 30 - Apr 3 at New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Going South » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:29 pm

now this is some test match series even i might find time & interest to follow. ashes my foot. damp squib.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:37 am

Going South wrote:now this is some test match series even i might find time & interest to follow. ashes my foot. damp squib.


England's fault they mailed it in.

Moeen Ali is now complaining that the crowds didn't turn up.
I'm not sure what he was expecting.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Going South » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:51 am

is that an excuse for losing?

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby squarecut » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:25 am

This series should indeed be more competitive and interesting than Ashes.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:28 am

Going South wrote:is that an excuse for losing?


an excuse for him being so shit on tour

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Boycs » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:48 am

Katto wrote:
Going South wrote:now this is some test match series even i might find time & interest to follow. ashes my foot. damp squib.


England's fault they mailed it in.

Moeen Ali is now complaining that the crowds didn't turn up.
I'm not sure what he was expecting.


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Re: Australia vs South Africa Series 2018.

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:47 am

Australia is getting a good hit out and blowing out the cobwebs in its 3-day warm up match against a SA A side. At stumps on the second day the Baggy Greens were well placed to inflict defeat on the SAffers on the last day..

SA A
220 & 55/0 (18 ov)

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Day 2: South Africa A trail by 54 runs with 10 wickets remaining.
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Re: Australia vs South Africa Series 2018.

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:32 am

Australia will be looking to replicate the result the last time we were hosted by the SAffers 4 years ago..
These were the scores of the 3 tests played.

1st Test: South Africa v Australia at Centurion - Feb 12-15, 2014
Australia 397 and 290/4d; South Africa 206 and 200 (59.4 ov, target: 482. Australia won by 281 runs.

2nd Test: South Africa v Australia at Port Elizabeth - Feb 20-23, 2014
South Africa 423 and 270/5d; Australia 246 and 216 (73.4 ov, target: 448). South Africa won by 231 runs.

3rd Test: South Africa v Australia at Cape Town - Mar 1-5, 2014
Australia 494/7d and 303/5d; South Africa 287 and 265 (134.3 ov, target: 511). Australia won by 245 runs.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Boycs » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:51 am

Hi baggy. There was already a thread for this so I hope you don’t mind I merged the two together

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:58 am

Boycs wrote:Hi baggy. There was already a thread for this so I hope you don’t mind I merged the two together
I assure you I looked on the Live Forum before starting this topic Boycs. How did I miss it?

Boycs can you please delete the duplicate Test listing four posts up. thanks..
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:04 am

Aussies effectively have SAffer A 3- for 0 early on the morning of the last day. Starc has finally hit some form with the wickets of Malan and de Bruyn.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Boycs » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:11 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Boycs wrote:Hi baggy. There was already a thread for this so I hope you don’t mind I merged the two together
I assure you I looked on the Live Forum before starting this topic Boycs. How did I miss it?

Boycs can you please delete the duplicate Test listing four posts up. thanks..


No probs all done

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:58 am

Three days is barely enuff time to get any kinda batting and bowling form leading into the first Test. I keep harping on about this.. but the ICC has to insist at least two four- day games before a test and one during the series..
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:32 am

At least the SAffers made a game of it with a final day declaration. The worrying thing for the Aussie camp is this was a ball dominated game with the meatiest score by a top 6 batsman a moderate 43 by Cameron Bancroft. Resting our best batsmen (Smith 23/25) Khawaja (22/8) before coming to SA could come back and bite us on the bum for the first Test.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:49 am

Chris Tremain should be reserve bowler for this tour. He is clearly the next best. Why cant the selectors see that. His 7 for today in Perth annihilated the Warriors .
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Tinsel » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:30 am

He played test or Limited over games for Aus, last year, I think
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:37 am

Tinsel wrote:He played test last year I think

With respect.. Tremain is yet to make his Test debut. He has played in Aust A sides tho.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Tinsel » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:18 pm

Leo wrote:Fixture

1st Test: March 1-5 at Kingsmead, Durban

2nd Test: March 9-13 at St George's Park, Port Elizabeth

3rd Test: Mar 22-26 at Newlands, Cape Town

4th Test: Mar 30 - Apr 3 at New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg

What time the game starts ?
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:26 am

Tinsel wrote:
Leo wrote:Fixture

1st Test: March 1-5 at Kingsmead, Durban

2nd Test: March 9-13 at St George's Park, Port Elizabeth

3rd Test: Mar 22-26 at Newlands, Cape Town

4th Test: Mar 30 - Apr 3 at New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg

What time the game starts ?

10am I expect. For me in Sydney that is around 8pm. Have not heard if there is to be a day/nite Test.

I had forgotten about Tremain's ODIs in 2016. He has become a much improved bowler since..

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Loose halo » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:14 am

Betting closes 1900 Sydney time so you will get an extra hour plus pregame of course.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby raja » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:07 am

If Australia can put up a half-decent performance, they should win this.
SA are struggling right now.
Amla is a shadow of his glorious past, ABDV is also struggling to get big scores.
Qdk, as you'd expect from an RCB signing, is in the worst form of his life.

How much can you depend on Elgar and Markram?

SA's bowling attack is very good though - that might just salvage the series for them.
It's their batsmen who are pathetic right now.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Katto » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:39 am

how much can you depend on Smith..

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:41 am

raja wrote:If Australia can put up a half-decent performance, they should win this.
SA are struggling right now.
Amla is a shadow of his glorious past, ABDV is also struggling to get big scores.
Qdk, as you'd expect from an RCB signing, is in the worst form of his life.

How much can you depend on Elgar and Markram?

SA's bowling attack is very good though - that might just salvage the series for them.
It's their batsmen who are pathetic right now.
This will be a ball dominated series In my view raja. Josh Hazlewood should finally have conditions which suit him. I am backing him for a big series.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Going South » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:55 am

squarecut wrote:This series should indeed be more competitive and interesting than Ashes.

+100

home team always would have GREAT advantage. let’s see.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:21 am

Going South wrote:
squarecut wrote:This series should indeed be more competitive and interesting than Ashes.

+100. I agree with that. Will be closer than the Ashes.

home team always would have GREAT advantage. let’s see.


SA had home advantage here.
1st Test: South Africa v Australia at Centurion - Feb 12-15, 2014
Australia 397 and 290/4d; South Africa 206 and 200 (59.4 ov, target: 482. Australia won by 281 runs.

2nd Test: South Africa v Australia at Port Elizabeth - Feb 20-23, 2014
South Africa 423 and 270/5d; Australia 246 and 216 (73.4 ov, target: 448). South Africa won by 231 runs.

3rd Test: South Africa v Australia at Cape Town - Mar 1-5, 2014
Australia 494/7d and 303/5d; South Africa 287 and 265 (134.3 ov, target: 511). Australia won by 245 runs.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Loose halo » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:59 am

raja wrote:If Australia can put up a half-decent performance, they should win this.
SA are struggling right now.
Amla is a shadow of his glorious past, ABDV is also struggling to get big scores.
Qdk, as you'd expect from an RCB signing, is in the worst form of his life.

How much can you depend on Elgar and Markram?

SA's bowling attack is very good though - that might just salvage the series for them.
It's their batsmen who are pathetic right now.


A good assessment raja.

As an Aussie my only problem is how much of SA's struggle was due to the outstanding India bowling attack?

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby raja » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:04 am

Well, Amla has been struggling for a while now.
And ABDV, after his return, hasn't seemed the same.
I don't think this has anything to do with BCCI's bowling.
Just a phase.

This is one of the weakest SA batting line-ups in a long time.
Invariably Philander is required to take them to some level of respectability.

Maybe they still miss Kallis in their ranks.
He has a poor record against Australia (from what I remember), but overall he lent a semblance of solidity to their batting.

Having said that, SA might surprise us.
They have a longer rivalry with Australia than with BCCI.
Someone might just step up - and frustrate the Aussies.

I agree that this could be a bowler-dominated series.
Both sides have far better bowling attacks than batting line-ups.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Loose halo » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:03 am

raja wrote:Well, Amla has been struggling for a while now.
And ABDV, after his return, hasn't seemed the same.
I don't think this has anything to do with BCCI's bowling.
Just a phase.

This is one of the weakest SA batting line-ups in a long time.
Invariably Philander is required to take them to some level of respectability.

Maybe they still miss Kallis in their ranks.
He has a poor record against Australia (from what I remember), but overall he lent a semblance of solidity to their batting.

Having said that, SA might surprise us.
They have a longer rivalry with Australia than with BCCI.
Someone might just step up - and frustrate the Aussies.

I agree that this could be a bowler-dominated series.
Both sides have far better bowling attacks than batting line-ups.


I am yet to be fully convinced that SA are on the decline however temporarily but the loss of Kallis has certainly hallmarked a downward trend IMO.

Add to this the newer players have not set the world on fire batting or bowling just yet. Is their a question mark over Amla De Villiers Faf and Steyn being as good as they were?

We know where Australia are at but not SA that is what makes this series so interesting.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Boycs » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:09 am

Loose halo wrote:
raja wrote:Well, Amla has been struggling for a while now.
And ABDV, after his return, hasn't seemed the same.
I don't think this has anything to do with BCCI's bowling.
Just a phase.

This is one of the weakest SA batting line-ups in a long time.
Invariably Philander is required to take them to some level of respectability.

Maybe they still miss Kallis in their ranks.
He has a poor record against Australia (from what I remember), but overall he lent a semblance of solidity to their batting.

Having said that, SA might surprise us.
They have a longer rivalry with Australia than with BCCI.
Someone might just step up - and frustrate the Aussies.

I agree that this could be a bowler-dominated series.
Both sides have far better bowling attacks than batting line-ups.


I am yet to be fully convinced that SA are on the decline however temporarily but the loss of Kallis has certainly hallmarked a downward trend IMO.

Add to this the newer players have not set the world on fire batting or bowling just yet. Is their a question mark over Amla De Villiers Faf and Steyn being as good as they were?

We know where Australia are at but not SA that is what makes this series so interesting.


I’d say steyn is in definite decline, ABDV is on a wind down though perhaps not as noticeably.

Wasn’t Amla not too long ago the only one of them making runs? But he must be 34/35 right? He too must be in the final year of his career.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby bolero » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:56 am

Morne Morkel has declared this would be his farewell series.

He has announced his retirement post the series.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby bolero » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:58 am

South Africa had a very mixed tour with India.

They won the test series against India 2-1, all 3 tests could have been won by any of the teams. It was close at many intervals.

South Africa subsequently were whipped 1-5 by India in the ODI's , the worst they have played against India at home.

South Africa also lost the T20 series against India 1-2.

So , I am not sure in what state of mind they would be when facing the Aussies.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Loose halo » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:58 am

Will Rabada continue his antics when nicks go to the boundary?
Will Aussie quicks target Faf's mended finger a player they dislike intensely?
Will Steyn be ready to play?
Will Amla's fading reflexes hold out the newish ball?
Will Smith return to form?

Can't wait to find out.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Going South » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:19 pm

bolero wrote:South Africa had a very mixed tour.
So , I am not sure in what state of mind they would be when facing the Aussies.


The tour started favorably for south africans but by the time tour ended it left a bad taste for them. I am sure their morale low by the end of HOME series and expect a FANGS-LESS team visit Australia, thanks to BCCI.

My money is on Australia on this series.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:41 am

"It's up to the batters ... whichever batting unit performs better will win the series because both bowling attacks are pretty potent and capable of taking 20 wickets." Australia's most successful test captain Steve Waugh speaking this morning. He also said this: "The three Aussie quicks – Hazlewood, Cummins and Starc – plus Nathan Lyon are as good as any attack right now or in any previous era. They're only going to get better. Right now I think our attack is the best in world cricket."

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:45 am

Wasn’t Amla not too long ago the only one of them making runs? But he must be 34/35 right? He too must be in the final year of his career.

Amla is also Hazlewood's bunny.. claiming him five time from five innings on the 2016 Saffer tour.

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:17 am

Loose halo wrote:Will Rabada continue his antics when nicks go to the boundary?
Will Aussie quicks target Faf's mended finger a player they dislike intensely?
Will Steyn be ready to play?
Will Amla's fading reflexes hold out the newish ball?
Will Smith return to form?

Can't wait to find out.
Are any quicks happy when nicks do not go to hand or go to the boundary specially down to third man.
I expect Starc and Cummins to target Faf's hand.. they say cut off the head of the snake....
Steyn will be underdone I am thinking..
I see Hazlewood continuing his dominance over Amla..
Smith has never been out of red ball form.. forget limited overs form.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:39 am

Surprised to see morkel retire before steyn. Isn’t steyn older and been playing for longer?

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby Loose halo » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:31 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Loose halo wrote:Will Rabada continue his antics when nicks go to the boundary?
Will Aussie quicks target Faf's mended finger a player they dislike intensely?
Will Steyn be ready to play?
Will Amla's fading reflexes hold out the newish ball?
Will Smith return to form?

Can't wait to find out.
Are any quicks happy when nicks do not go to hand or go to the boundary specially down to third man.
I expect Starc and Cummins to target Faf's hand.. they say cut off the head of the snake....
Steyn will be underdone I am thinking..
I see Hazlewood continuing his dominance over Amla..
Smith has never been out of red ball form.. forget limited overs form.


Rabada started with a Stokes send off and has continued his tantrums recently.

SOUTH African pace bowler Kagiso Rabada has been fined over his demonstrative send-off of an Indian batsman in Tuesday’s one-day international loss in Port Elizabeth.

It puts the world’s No.2-ranked bowler on the cusp of a two-Test suspension ahead of Australia’s arrival in South Africa for a much-anticipated four-Test tour.

The ICC on Wednesday fined Rabada 15 per cent of his match fee and imposed one demerit point for his behaviour, when he waved at departing batsman Shikhar Darwan, pointing his way back to the change room and seeming to swear after the Indian opener was caught in the deep off his bowling.

He was charged by match officials for using language and gestures that could have provoked an aggressive reaction from the batsman.

Rabada has five demerit points on his disciplinary record.

He was suspended last year when he reached four points and was barred from playing in the second Test in England.

If he reaches the next threshold of eight points within the next two years, he will be suspended again but this time for two Tests, or one Test and two ODIs, or four ODIs and T20s, depending on which comes first.

That would require a more serious breach, and a dock of three demerit points — but that’s not foreign territory for the fiery quick.

In February last year Rabada and Sri Lanka’s Niroshan Dickwella were fined and handed three demerit points after making avoidable physical contact during a one-day clash — before a more minor send-off of England’s Ben Stokes in just led to a one-match ban.

The ICC said Rabada admitted the latest offence and accepted the sanction at the end of Tuesday’s match, which India won by 73 runs at St George’s Park.

India took an unassailable 4-1 lead in the six-match series.

Rabada is set to play the final ODI on Friday, but has been rested from the T20 series which follows.

Originally published asFiery Proteas pace star edging closer to heavy ban

Maddinson was given another Rabada blast in the A match recently.

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Postby Loose halo » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:53 am

Australia for many years dating back to the days it began as a penal colony was subject to English rule.
Along came Cricket and Australia turned the tables for a goodly period.

The Ashes is an ongoing symbolic contest between ruler and subject and traditionally fought fiercely between the two countries with many epic battles.

Yes I have been called a convict on the sporting field and though my forbears came from the UK I rejoice in Australia holding the Ashes and metaphorically grieve when they are lost.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:48 pm

Loose halo wrote:Australia for many years dating back to the days it began as a penal colony was subject to English rule.
Along came Cricket and Australia turned the tables for a goodly period.

The Ashes is an ongoing symbolic contest between ruler and subject and traditionally fought fiercely between the two countries with many epic battles.

Yes I have been called a convict on the sporting field and though my forbears came from the UK I rejoice in Australia holding the Ashes and metaphorically grieve when they are lost.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:53 pm

Only some 8 hours to wait before the Baggy Greens are engaged in Test cricket once again. I am counting the minutes. There is only one pure form of cricket. After the Ashes I enjoy us playing India and Sth Africa in that order. I do prefer the Saffer wickets as they are more conjusive for our bowling unit unlike Indian dust bowls.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:01 am

Smith names Baggy Green First Test X1: David Warner, Cameron Bancroft, Usman Khawaja, Steve Smith (c), Shaun Marsh, Mitchell Marsh, Tim Paine (wk), Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Nathan Lyon, Josh Hazlewood.
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Wessels says SA Curators have been instructed to take the pace out of the test wickets in order to moderate our quicks.

At least he is honest about it.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:23 am

Conditions wise it's as similar as you get to back home. Not sure I agree entirely with this comment by Steve Smith. Yes the two climates are similar but the pitches differ greatly these days. Other than Brisbane and occasionally the WACA our decks are slowish grassless roads with little assistance for the quicks. Whereas Saffer decks are grassy providing good pace and carry.. tailor made for our mostly seam attack.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:26 am

Loose halo wrote:Wessels says SA Curators have been instructed to take the pace out of the test wickets in order to moderate our quicks.

At least he is honest about it.
Is that wise.. as it will also nullify their quicks who are not a exactly pedestrian plodders. As long as they leave some grass on the surface for the specialist seamers we have like Hazlewood. I expect Philander will also enjoy those conditions. A slowish surface will also assist the batsman.. and Australia has the worlds best in Steve Smith plus blokes like Khawaja and Shaun Marsh who just love batting time. I see this policy as folly by Saffer management.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:02 am

Expected SAffer X1:
Elgar
Markram
Amla
De Villiers
Du Plessis
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De Kock
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Postby MikeR68 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:45 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Loose halo wrote:Wessels says SA Curators have been instructed to take the pace out of the test wickets in order to moderate our quicks.

At least he is honest about it.
Is that wise.. as it will also nullify their quicks who are not a exactly pedestrian plodders. As long as they leave some grass on the surface for the specialist seamers we have like Hazlewood. I expect Philander will also enjoy those conditions. A slowish surface will also assist the batsman.. and Australia has the worlds best in Steve Smith plus blokes like Khawaja and Shaun Marsh who just love batting time. I see this policy as folly by Saffer management.


You have far too much faith in Hazlewood, Baggers. 67 innings for only 139 wickets, shows he is fairly pedestrian, When I look at his record I can't help but think of Danny Morrison 76 innings for 160 wickets (sorry Paddles, I don't mean to group Hazlewood with Morrison, Morrison wAS far better). or Phil DeFreitas 76 innings for 140 wickets or Ian Bishop 76 innings for 161 wickets, or the mighty Venkatesh Prasad 58 innings for 96 wickets or the exceptional Umar Gul (who???) 90 innings for 163 wickets or Andre Nel 69 innings for 123 wickets or Fazal Mahmood 53 innings for 139 wickets ( same number of wickets a lot less innings). All legendary wicket takers, all medium pacers LOL, and household names??????? Not!!!!

No this series will be based on who handles the swinging deliveries the best. Both teams in my opinion nullify each other in the bowling with SA the better bowling attack, but SA IMO have the better batting line up, with the exception of Smith, Smith will be the difference between the two sides just as he is at state Sheffield shield level and at recent internationals, as I have said previously Smith shoulders the careers of both batsmen and bowlers and it is a lot of weight for a legendary cricketer in the making. We have selected the wrong batting line up IMO, but I hope I am wrong. Warner, Bancroft, the Marsh bros, Khawaja very unpredictable IMO, it will be interesting. Would have been better with Renshaw, Burns (regardless of fitness, fit now I believe ) give Sam Heazlett a go, maybe Aaaron Finch or Travis Dean take the true all-rounder Jack Wildermuth or or Marcus Stoinis rather than M Marsh, not necessarily play them, Michael Neser or Brendan Doggett or Chris Tremain or Nick Winter or Tom Rogers, something unseen instead of Starc and Josh "I'll bowl 4 foot outside off and hope the batsmen play a rash shot" Hazlewood.
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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby MikeR68 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:16 am

It's a bit of a worry when articles like this is written

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/josh-ha ... 2018-02-27

Amla is one batsman. What is the plan to Faf du Plessis, Quinton de Kock, AB de Villiers, Dean Elgar. It take more than 1 batsman to target.

or this one

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/michael ... 2018-03-01

What do you expect from the most hated captain ( and was just voted the most unpopular commentator ) Michael Clarke. A more unbiased captain Australia will never ever experience. Pro NSW all the way. They even gave him official selector until the India/England Debacle 2012–13, and it shows in the selection (NSW all the way). No wonder we lost, a state side against an international side, (Arrogance sheer arrogance, Michael Clarke all the way)!!!!

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Re: South Africa vs Australia: Test Series; March 1 to April 3, 2018 in South Africa

Postby bolero » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:55 am

South African batsmen were bloodied facing the Indian quicks.

All of them Elgar, Amla, faf, ABDV, De Kock were hit by the Indian quicks Shami, Bumrah, Ishant, Bhuvi, Pandya. Umesh Yadav didnt even play a single test.

Australia will give similar or worse treatment to the SA batsmen if they prepare quick tracks.