Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby raja » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:09 am

I didn't even know Roy had moved from South Africa to England at age 10.
But then I don't follow limited-overs cricket & its players much.
Roy seems to have been slotted into limited-overs only.

Seems like a very talented bloke - and he's just 27.

England could have a very potent ODI squad for the next World Cup.
And it's in home conditions, so every reason for them to start as favourites.
They need to ensure they don't dilute their squad with Test match players like Root and Broad.
Every batsman should be a guy with a potential 150+ SR, even if he settles at 120 depending on match situation.
If you don't even have the capacity to explode, what sort of limited-overs batsman are you?

Root might be OK though - his current career SR is 86, not bad.

England's bowling might need work though.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Paddles » Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:36 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Turn it up. Roy moved to UK aged nine.

Should have done my homework paddles. My point is so many of England's past players have learned their cricket in another country. Pietersen, Hick, Caddick, Malcolm, Robin Smith and Tony Grieg. No doubt there are plenty more. Their latest Keaton Jennings grew up in Joburg. There are also several Aussies..the latest two being Darren Pattinson and Sam Robson. In all there have been 66 foreign born players for England..


And? Its a popular country to migrate to. Great chances to make riches there and live a good life. Even better if you can miss their winters apparently.
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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Boycs » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:59 am

What's bad about the winters is it's soggy and raining rather than splendorous snow scenes that you'd get in other countries. It can make it not even worth having a winter :D

But I'm in the countryside so I'm okay:

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:37 pm

Why is there five days between the first ODI and the second. Ludicrous!

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:39 pm

Hearing from a friend that Liverpool is freezing with frost and biting Arctic winds. Your winters are bitterly cold and your summers are usually wet and coolish with constant overcast. You can have your climate Boycs.
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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:59 am

Two Aussies making their ODI debut today.. Jhye Richardson and Alex Carey. Congrats boys. Time for some pay back Wattyls..

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:52 am

England go 2-0 up

I dont like the look of this Aussie ODI side at all

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:01 am

Terrific limited overs bowling. Agree 2-0. .
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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:26 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Hearing from a friend that Liverpool is freezing with frost and biting Arctic winds. Your winters are bitterly cold and your summers are usually wet and coolish with constant overcast. You can have your climate Boycs.


You need all the tools of wealth to live in Britain and north western Europe.

Met a bloke once who said he loved being snowed under.

Such is the self hypnotic survival mode engendered in the human psyche.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:57 am

The Starc pie shop is open for business again.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Verity » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:39 am

Katto wrote:England go 2-0 up

I dont like the look of this Aussie ODI side at all


its been a bits and pieces side for some time.
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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:49 am

Verity wrote:
Katto wrote:England go 2-0 up

I dont like the look of this Aussie ODI side at all


its been a bits and pieces side for some time.


yeah its composition seems like an afterthought

I cant help but think the manner in which the domestic one day comp has been treated in recent times has contributed

really they're picking players based on T20 form

not sure how England manage their domestic season as they have all these formats too

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:37 am

yawn predictable outcome

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Shambles » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:54 pm

Would be very interesting to see Englands Test side playing Englands One Day side..??

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:07 pm

Smith fails Australia fails.


Being disgusted with Australias slow batting I switched to the Tennis to watch Kyrgious win in a great match.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:03 am

Aussies appear unable to switch from Test mode to ODI mode. Bloody pathetic.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Boycs » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:22 am

Hehe the knives come out so quickly :D it’s not just English fans then

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:26 am

This has been a poor Aussie ODI team for some time now.
We never really replaced Shane Watson.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Paddles » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:31 am

Katto wrote:This has been a poor Aussie ODI team for some time now.
We never really replaced Shane Watson.


Watson was a brilliant ODI player.

I don't think Australia are poor in ODI now, but Watson has left a difficult hole to fill. He was just so good with both bat and ball and so often this helped to get Australia over the line in close games. Sometimes he just blew the opposition away in not so close games.
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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:01 am

Boycs wrote:Hehe the knives come out so quickly :D it’s not just English fans then


There was no gloating during the test series by the Aussie posters some praise and some criticism so no one is bailing out as you imply.

Some inclusions like Travis Head and some omissions like Nathan Lyon were unpopular but England took advantage and played better.

For example England batsmen pierced the field Australian players hit the fielders such was the difference in ODI skill between the teams.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:54 am

Australia gets its chance here at the SCG.

I expect Head to be dropped and hopefully Hazlewood Cummins and Lyon to return.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:23 am

Loose halo wrote:Australia gets its chance here at the SCG.

I expect Head to be dropped and hopefully Hazlewood Cummins and Lyon to return.


shouldn't we be replacing a batsman with another batsman?

also Cameron White is past it and not very good.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:11 am

Who did they drop for Zampa? Bout time he played.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Paddles » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:32 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Who did they drop for Zampa? Bout time he played.


Head.

Zampla played game 1 (4 bwlr + 2ar). Was dropped for White in game 2 (3 bwlr + 2 ar). Now back to 4 bwlr + 2ar.
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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:42 am

Zampa is OK but is not our best leggie IMO Swepson is. He got Bairstow with a wrong ún I wish he would use it a lot more the psychology being reinforcement to the batsman that it may be going either way more often.

Anyone for Lyon in lieu of Zampa?

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby bolero » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:36 am

I hear all our Aussie friends including Loose Halo and Katto talk about Swepson.Would like.to see him bowl.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:58 am

Why cant our bowlers execute the yorker? The numbers of half volleys they dish up is embarrassing.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:07 am

bolero wrote:I hear all our Aussie friends including Loose Halo and Katto talk about Swepson.Would like.to see him bowl.


nope, I never mentioned Swepson other than who is he and I never saw him bowl :lol:

Loose Halo loves his QLDers and would prefer the whole Aussie team stacked with them

I'm not a big fan of Zampa either. He bowls too many loose deliveries. He might be effective on assisting pitches and against teams like NZ who are clueless against leg spin but other than that he can be a serious liability.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:28 am

White is still shit. Shuffling deck chairs at this point.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:00 am

Finch falls lbw to Rashid after his fifty.

I hear plunkett has injured himself? A lot of overs for root then

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:06 am

Katto wrote:
bolero wrote:I hear all our Aussie friends including Loose Halo and Katto talk about Swepson.Would like.to see him bowl.


nope, I never mentioned Swepson other than who is he and I never saw him bowl :lol:

Loose Halo loves his QLDers and would prefer the whole Aussie team stacked with them

I'm not a big fan of Zampa either. He bowls too many loose deliveries. He might be effective on assisting pitches and against teams like NZ who are clueless against leg spin but other than that he can be a serious liability.


Swepson and Lynn maybe is all.

Stop your stirring Croweater :)

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:08 am

Jimmy A has been given some TMS commentary duties. Thinking of his retirement perhaps?

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:10 am

I am sick and tired of Umpires giving LBW's that change games with a hell of a lot of doubt.

Watching Finch live I said you can't give those.!!!!

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:12 am

I don’t mind it so much :P

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:18 am

Loose halo wrote:I am sick and tired of Umpires giving LBW's that change games with a hell of a lot of doubt.

Watching Finch live I said you can't give those.!!!!


was it Gaffney again?

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:54 am

Smith another victim of the Umpire's union.

RIDICULOUS DECISION.

The ball was clearly grassed.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:58 am

I’ve only seen one reply of the catch and it didn’t look out to me. There’s a wiggle of the ball as it kind of chips up into the glove from
The ground.

I do accept that butler could have honestly believed he caught it though. I think any jumping up of the ball can be easily disguised amongst the glove hitting the ground

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:01 am

was it Gaffney again?

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:22 am

the one day Ashes are proving even more one sided

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:25 am

why isn't Khawaja in this team? and hasbeens like White are?

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:42 am

Someone tell me what Mark Wood's appeal is? He averages 40-45 with the ball in both formats after over 30 matches!!

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:04 am

so many poorly timed shots

2 dead rubbers to come

yawn

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Loose halo » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:13 am

England had help from the Umpires but you can't take away Buttler's innings.

Looking back I think the Aussie selectors trialled too many dud players not the first time they have been guilty of underestimating the opposition after a bit of success.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Paddles » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:33 am

Loose halo wrote:
Katto wrote:
nope, I never mentioned Swepson other than who is he and I never saw him bowl :lol:

Loose Halo loves his QLDers and would prefer the whole Aussie team stacked with them

I'm not a big fan of Zampa either. He bowls too many loose deliveries. He might be effective on assisting pitches and against teams like NZ who are clueless against leg spin but other than that he can be a serious liability.


Swepson and Lynn maybe is all.

Stop your stirring Croweater :)


Yeah Zampa has tormented NZ's batsmen in 4 matches now, plundering wickets at a mere 40+ runs each and bowling middle overs with a suffocating 5.6+ runs an over.
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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Yorkshire » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:38 am

Katto wrote:why isn't Khawaja in this team? and hasbeens like White are?

Are you plan to add more trash? We do not need permanent test player ( in Aus) for ODI team, we need new team for the 4th and 5th ODI.

Lets starts talk about new possible team

Smith ( captain)

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:33 pm

For starters pick limited overs specialist bowlers. Our Test attack, barring perhaps Starc, is suited to this format. The Poms pick specialists and they have just walloped our insipid Wattyls 3-0 to take the series.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:35 pm

Lets starts talk about new possible team

Smith ( captain)

Selectors should choose the ODI side from the best performed players from our one day domestic competition.. plus Smith. No ifs..no buts.

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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Verity » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:32 pm

Yorkshire wrote:
Katto wrote:why isn't Khawaja in this team? and hasbeens like White are?

Are you plan to add more trash? We do not need permanent test player ( in Aus) for ODI team, we need new team for the 4th and 5th ODI.

Lets starts talk about new possible team

Smith ( captain)


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Re: Australia vs England: ODI Series; Jan 14-28, 2018 in Australia

Postby Verity » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:34 pm

Khawaja and Nathan Lyon missing out has me dumbfounded.
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