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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:34 am

Piyush Chawla turned out to be a big disappointment for me.
I had a lot of hopes from him.
Just checked his age - he's still only 29?

He last played cricket for India in Dec 2012.

What went wrong for him?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:50 am

it happens in all sports. Success at youth level is no guarantee for senior success. The percentages are fairly small.
It doesn't mean the player went off the rails, its more likely others had more upside in that period of growth. Senior level is a lot more competitive.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:55 am

I agree with Katto. Success at under 19 level is no guarantee for what the players do when they play internationals.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:54 am

raja wrote:Piyush Chawla turned out to be a big disappointment for me.
I had a lot of hopes from him.
Just checked his age - he's still only 29?

He last played cricket for India in Dec 2012.

What went wrong for him?


Nothing went wrong for him. He was rightly identified at the age of 15 as a cricketing talent for that 2 year u19 World Cup cycle.

He has since played over 30 international matches. I think that is a fairly successful career, especially for a spinner in India competing with a career cycle of Mishra, Bhaji, Ashwin, Chahal and Jadeja to name but a few who were not necessarily in his u19 WC cycle.

Almost all u19 players go onto to become professionally paid First Class and domestic cricketers. Especially those that star at that level. And most of those that starred then go onto full international honours, certainly at a much higher rate than those players that did not play u-19 do. Missing u19's is not a reason for a player who may subsequently grow as a cricketer to quit, nor is making the u19's a guarantee that a player will be the next Lara and not the next Ramprakash. But even if he becomes the next Ramprakash - that's not a bad career imo. And certainly reflects well enough on his u19 selection.

Making a u19 team is typically indicative of good cricket talent, on balance certainly enough for a professional domestic contract one day if not international, let alone a regular international. Just look at how many internationals played u19 cricket. Its much higher than the rate of those who did not. Its almost getting to the stage of capping them with the year that they were u19 players. The u19s has certainly become a fertile breeding ground for NZ national cricketers, it is far far more a case of who didn't play u19's (besides our African imports), and got better as cricketers than their national peers later, if any, than who did.

But the cycle of 2 years at u19 versus a career span of players upto and at times over 40 years of age does influence who goes on to be an international star. Some very good domestic players, just never got their intl opportunities, look at the Aussie super team where Stuie Law and co missed out on playing more than 1 test match. It doesn't mean that Stuart Law was not a very good red ball batsman. Just a team only has 11 spots, and his career was unfortunately timed for him. But cricket has nevertheless treated him well enough.

But its the 2 year u19 cycle vs the career cycle for international talent opportunities. It is no coincidence that so many u19 players then go on to play full internationals or become domestic pros. If you bowl or bat well at 18, you will invariably bowl or bat well at 25. Future talent identification has become part of the reason that the ICC u19's is now enjoying such a bigger profile than when it started.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby squarecut » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:25 am

bolero wrote:Many of the above guys flattered to deceive, some shone to wither away.

VRV Singh just could not make it at the highest level, was not good enough, I think he played a couple of ODI's.

Uthappa did play for a brief period in the shorter format. Dinesh Karthik is still around. Piyush Chawla was not good enough as Kumble and Mishra better bowlers were around.

Suresh Raina did sparkle in ODI's. Rayudu lost his best years to ICL. Irfan Pathan - best example of a talent gone waste under Greg Chappell.


Rayudu was not good enough for senior internationals. That is why he joined ICL.

Irfan Pathan started getting lots of advertisement contracts because of his success with Indian team and that went to his head. He began to neglect his bowling and he lost his bowling action. Denniss Lillee identified the cause and invited Irfan Pathan to MRF pace academy to rectify his bowling action. But Irfan Pathan was so pre occupied with ad shooting that he could not find time to report to MRF pace academy.

Subsequently, his deteriorated bowling action caused Irfan Pathan to lose his place. By now, he has become unfit for even IPL cricket. No team bothered to buy him. His short sighteness proved to be his undoing. He is a classic example of a little success getting to one's head.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:34 am

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bolero wrote:Many of the above guys flattered to deceive, some shone to wither away.

VRV Singh just could not make it at the highest level, was not good enough, I think he played a couple of ODI's.

Uthappa did play for a brief period in the shorter format. Dinesh Karthik is still around. Piyush Chawla was not good enough as Kumble and Mishra better bowlers were around.

Suresh Raina did sparkle in ODI's. Rayudu lost his best years to ICL. Irfan Pathan - best example of a talent gone waste under Greg Chappell.


Rayudu was not good enough for senior internationals. That is why he joined ICL.

Irfan Pathan started getting lots of advertisement contracts because of his success with Indian team and that went to his head. He began to neglect his bowling and he lost his bowling action. Denniss Lillee identified the cause and invited Irfan Pathan to MRF pace academy to rectify his bowling action. But Irfan Pathan was so pre occupied with ad shooting that he could not find time to report to MRF pace academy.

Subsequently, his deteriorated bowling action caused Irfan Pathan to lose his place. By now, he has become unfit for even IPL cricket. No team bothered to buy him. His short sighteness proved to be his undoing. He is a classic example of a little success getting to one's head.


I like the Pathan brothers. It demonstrates even India dabbles with bits and pieces cricketers. Not just Eng and NZ.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:26 am

Best example of a player who shone late in his career i.e. after 25 years is Matt Hayden.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:57 am

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bolero wrote:Many of the above guys flattered to deceive, some shone to wither away.

VRV Singh just could not make it at the highest level, was not good enough, I think he played a couple of ODI's.

Uthappa did play for a brief period in the shorter format. Dinesh Karthik is still around. Piyush Chawla was not good enough as Kumble and Mishra better bowlers were around.

Suresh Raina did sparkle in ODI's. Rayudu lost his best years to ICL. Irfan Pathan - best example of a talent gone waste under Greg Chappell.


Rayudu was not good enough for senior internationals. That is why he joined ICL.

Irfan Pathan started getting lots of advertisement contracts because of his success with Indian team and that went to his head. He began to neglect his bowling and he lost his bowling action. Denniss Lillee identified the cause and invited Irfan Pathan to MRF pace academy to rectify his bowling action. But Irfan Pathan was so pre occupied with ad shooting that he could not find time to report to MRF pace academy.

Subsequently, his deteriorated bowling action caused Irfan Pathan to lose his place. By now, he has become unfit for even IPL cricket. No team bothered to buy him. His short sighteness proved to be his undoing. He is a classic example of a little success getting to one's head.


Nice to give the perspective on Irfan Pathan. I was not aware his downfall was partly his own doing. How could he snub Dennis Lillee ?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:08 am

bolero wrote:Best example of a player who shone late in his career i.e. after 25 years is Matt Hayden.


Doubtful. Hayden was a world reknown Aus cricket star from making the 1993 Ashes tour and all his massive domestic run scoring. Slater got the test nod on 93 Ashes, Hayden the ODI. But Hayden was big cricket news from that time. Even in his main career, flat track bully tag has followed him even by Aussie fans, who state that is record in Australia and India on roads just didn't outshine Langer away from home as the better player.

Adam Voges is a far better example. And there's much debate and discussion by experts about his international career.

I like Grant Elliot for NZ odi myself.

[Edit] Now that I look at the stats, what Elliott did after being dropped a few times, was just increase his sr. But he was still inconsistent - just a stellar 2015 - which was of course a WC year.

Still leaves Voges, though.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:11 am

Paddles wrote:
bolero wrote:Best example of a player who shone late in his career i.e. after 25 years is Matt Hayden.


Doubtful. Hayden was a world reknown Aus cricket star from making the 1993 Ashes tour and all his massive domestic run scoring. Slater got the test nod on 93 Ashes, Hayden the ODI.

Adam Voges is a far better example. And there's much debate and discussion by experts about his international career.

I like Grant Elliot for NZ odi myself.


Domestically, Hayden was known, but internationally, he enjoyed big success after a few years into his career.

Grant Elliot, yes.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:16 am

bolero wrote:
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Doubtful. Hayden was a world reknown Aus cricket star from making the 1993 Ashes tour and all his massive domestic run scoring. Slater got the test nod on 93 Ashes, Hayden the ODI.

Adam Voges is a far better example. And there's much debate and discussion by experts about his international career.

I like Grant Elliot for NZ odi myself.


Domestically, Hayden was known, but internationally, he enjoyed big success after a few years into his career.

Grant Elliot, yes.


Big success on roads in India and Australia. There's a lot of Strayans who don't rate Hayden highly. Consistently, early middle and late, disapointed in seam friendly conditions. Its why it took him so long to grab a spot from Taylor, Elliot, Slater and co to begin with.

No - Hayden was internationally known for his domestic feats. He was like Aussie's Kambli. Or NZ's Ryder. Or Eng's Hick or Ramprakash. The cricket world was aware of them scoring huge in domestic even when not playing intls.

In fact Aussie had a plethora of them paraded round in 90s - when Aus A played an odi series with Aus Eng and Zim and made the final. Aus batting depth in mid and late 90s was excessive for 1 intl man team.

A point of pride for CA and its supporters still regularly mentioned ubiquitously. Stuart Law's career timing was awful.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:23 am

Yes, Hayden was a little suspect on seam friendly surfaces, but plundered runs elsewhere.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:26 am

bolero wrote:
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Rayudu was not good enough for senior internationals. That is why he joined ICL.

Irfan Pathan started getting lots of advertisement contracts because of his success with Indian team and that went to his head. He began to neglect his bowling and he lost his bowling action. Denniss Lillee identified the cause and invited Irfan Pathan to MRF pace academy to rectify his bowling action. But Irfan Pathan was so pre occupied with ad shooting that he could not find time to report to MRF pace academy.

Subsequently, his deteriorated bowling action caused Irfan Pathan to lose his place. By now, he has become unfit for even IPL cricket. No team bothered to buy him. His short sighteness proved to be his undoing. He is a classic example of a little success getting to one's head.


Nice to give the perspective on Irfan Pathan. I was not aware his downfall was partly his own doing. How could he snub Dennis Lillee ?


Also about Rayudu, he was hailed as the next big thing in Indian media. There was a lot of hype about him. People started comparing him to Tendulkar and what not.

One thing about Rayudu was his fierce temper. He could not control his temper.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:30 am

In the 2016 edition of the Indian Premier League (IPL), Harbhajan Singh of Mumbai Indians was bowling to Saurabh Tiwary of Rising Pune Supergiants. The ball was hit hard towards the boundary, where fielder Ambati Rayudu dived, attempting a catch but missed it. The Turbantor lost his cool and yelled at Rayudu.

But what followed was not Sreesanth-like sobbing after the Kerala speedster was reportedly slapped by Bhajji during an earlier edition of the IPL. Rayudu yelled back at his senior and walked angrily towards Harbhajan. Realising things were getting out of hand, Bhajji put his arm around Rayudu, only to be snubbed by the Hyderabadi.

A year later, when he was asked about his temper, Rayudu said, "I really do not have a short temper."

Those who have played with Rayudu may not quite agree. Nor would the person who was at the receiving end of Rayudu's road rage this week. A video clip surfaced where Rayudu is seen stepping out of his car angrily and hitting a man much older than him. The issue was reportedly over Rayudu's rash driving. The citizen had asked him to drive carefully.

Yet again, Rayudu brushed the incident aside as a minor issue.

What Rayudu, who is now Hyderabad Ranji team captain, does not realise is that such manifestation of irrational anger, on or off the field, does little to boost his role model status. Those who have known him say this is largely to blame for the talented youngster's inability to make a permanent place for himself in the India team.

The 31-year-old made his First Class debut when he was just 16 years old and was considered definite India material. Yet he managed to make his ODI debut for India only in 2013, when he was 27. A bad decision to join the ICL proved costly and moving out of Hyderabad meant tongues started wagging about his attitude.

The latest incident in Hyderabad is a minor scuffle and nothing like Navjot Singh Sidhu's infamous 1991 case, where he was charged and convicted for culpable homicide, it shows Rayudu in poor light. What it does is to immediately brand him as a repeat offender.

Rayudu's first public spat occurred more than a decade ago on the cricket field with N Arjun Yadav (former India player Shivlal Yadav's son), during a Ranji Trophy game in Anantapur in AP. Rayudu was representing Andhra Pradesh, while Arjun was playing for Hyderabad.

Ironically now when Rayudu is back with Hyderabad, Arjun has been appointed as the team coach, after the duo decided to let bygones be bygones.

"The more people try to pull us down, the more determined we are to prove them wrong. What happened then was past. It was one of those incidents which happened when we were young,” Arjun told The Hindu.

"Both of us have seen the highs and lows of Hyderabad cricket in the last few years. So, we are determined to script a new chapter," Rayudu said.

At 31, Rayudu's best is perhaps behind him but he can certainly play an important role for Hyderabad cricket where he learnt his basics. And it will be in the interest of Hyderabad cricket if he is in the news for cricketing reasons only. Leading the HCA XI to victory in the Moin-ud-Dowla tournament this year was great news. Wish the street brawl had not soured the victory champagne.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:33 am

Ambati Rayudu's latest roadside scuffle shows why he needs anger management counselling

There may be no pictorial evidence of Indian cricketers Manoj Prabhakar and Maninder Singh’s on-field scuffle during a match in Delhi. The photograph of Rashid Latif (with a wicket) and Raman Lamba (with a raised bat) threatening one another during a Duleep Trophy match in Jamshedpur has acquired sepia tones.

Pakistan batsman Javed Miandad has also provided cricket history with one picture of his and threatening to beat Australian paceman Dennis Lillee with a raised bat. And, there are videos of Inzamam-ul-Haq jumping the advertisement hoarding and the fence to get into the galleries and thrashed a fan in Toronto for calling him “Aloo (potato)”.

In these days, when social media sparks outrage, Ambati Rayudu’s recent scuffle with an elder man by the roadside in Hyderabad will be among the most watched videos. The infamous incident involving singer Mika Singh and actor Rakhi Sawant may have lasted a few seconds but the video played in loops and got ingrained in many memories. Rayudu may have courted similar fate now.

That only a few are ready to even consider the possibility of Rayudu reacting to grave provocation in his latest brawl is a telling, if sad, comment on the cricketer’s reputation of being a tinder-box with a very short fuse. That cricket officials are unwilling to even suggest to him that he undergoes an anger-management exercise is a more telling comment about the times we are in.

Of course, it is hard to sit in judgement over Rayudu’s action in this specific instance – someone’s mother was angrily abused and it cannot be figured the author of such ill-tempered language was – but his reputation as an intemperate person precedes him, making it difficult for many to back him. Yet, it is a travesty that he never appears to have been the beneficiary of counselling.

More than a decade ago, he had a massive fall out with N Arjun Yadav, former India off-spinner Shivlal Yadav’s son. During a Ranji Trophy match between Andhra (for whom Rayudu was playing as an up and coming cricketer) and Hyderabad in Anantapur, he provoked Arjun Yadav enough for the then Hyderabad skipper to pull out a stump and attack him.

This came a couple of years after he fell foul of Hyderabad Cricket Association officials and chose to shift base to Andhra. It did not help his cricket but these incidents, and his decision to sign up for the Indian Cricket League only added layers to his image as a loose cannon who expressed his frustration through anger.

Many will also remember that he did not take a backward step when off-spinner Harbhajan Singh screamed his lungs off after he allowed a boundary to slip past him during an IPL match. For someone so talented – Greg Chappell named Rayudu as a player of the future when he was himself bidding to become Team India coach – he has given his fans few positive images to recall.

It transpires that he was able to leave the recent incident behind when he stepped on the field and led Hyderabad Cricket Association XI to victory in the Moin-ud-Dowla Gold Cup final. Yet, with the video doing the rounds of social media and then getting on to some TV channels, prompting newspapers and websites to slam his anger, it is possible that he has had the chance to reflect.

At 31, he has some time to show that he is no rolling stone, let alone a mercenary. But that journey can start by signing up for an anger management course. He has not been named as part of the HCA team in the Buchi Babu tournament in Chennai. Perhaps it will give him time again to reflect and seek some guidance.

Footballers have been known to get into scuffles with fans. Manchester United’s Eric Cantona kicked a hooligan for insulting him in 1995 and, earlier this year, when Paul Pogba refused to sign autographs and a couple of United fans were outraged enough to test his defensive skills. Why, did the great Zinedine Zidane not headbutt Marco Materazzi in the 2006 FIFA World Cup final?

Indeed, athletes are very human – and some like Rayudu more than others. It is perhaps unfair to expect the modern sportsperson to remain models of civil behaviour, especially in the face of abuse. Yet, since they would want their careers prolonged, it would help them if their clubs and associations, teams and friends do their bit in channelising their anger in the right direction.

When Liverpool striker Luis Suarez bit Chelsea’s Branislav Ivanovic was offered anger management treatment by the Professional Footballers Association. And he had admitted earlier that he needed to change. The moot question is: does Ambati Rayudu acknowledge his short fuse and the need to express his passion in a more socially acceptable manner?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Loose halo » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:32 pm

Hayden went to a Monastery in India out of his own pocket to use their ground and turned his ability to play on sub continental tiger traps.

Paddles called them roads how come Hayden was the only Aussie to really be successful on them?

At home you couldn't get near the bowling machine when he was at the Gabba.

When you take into consideration his poor starting average and acknowledge where he ended up you have to give the guy credit.

Just ask his compatriots how good he was including Justin Langer.

This talk of his domestic success is nothing more than a tactic to obsfuscate the issue in an attempt to discredit his overall International career.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:18 am

Loose halo wrote:Hayden went to a Monastery in India out of his own pocket to use their ground and turned his ability to play on sub continental tiger traps.

Paddles called them roads how come Hayden was the only Aussie to really be successful on them?

At home you couldn't get near the bowling machine when he was at the Gabba.

When you take into consideration his poor starting average and acknowledge where he ended up you have to give the guy credit.

Just ask his compatriots how good he was including Justin Langer.

This talk of his domestic success is nothing more than a tactic to obsfuscate the issue in an attempt to discredit his overall International career.


I always admired Hayden. The way he used to intimidate bowlers. Langer was a different batsman, tenacious.Hayden bullied bowlers.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:53 am

Australia off to a good start in the final.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:41 am

Unless India take some wickets it would be difficult to contain Aussies

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:57 am

Shaw is a terrible captain.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:17 am

Missing Baggys commentary.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:29 am

Going a bit like the 2003 WC final.
BCCI boys look nervous.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:44 am

McSweeney gone, but I can't see BCCI boys pulling this back.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:46 am

For India, Merlos wicket would be the key.He has played a blinder today

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:51 am

Sutherland gone
191/6 off 41.3
I think Australia have already put the game out of BCCI's reach.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:23 am

W

Nagarkoti to Evans, OUT, knocks the off-stump. Full and pacy from Nagarkoti at 140ks, Evans is hanging his bat out loosely without making an effort to get his feet close to the delivery. The ball seams in and knocks the bails over
Z Evans b Nagarkoti 1 (3b 0x4 0x6) SR: 33.33

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:25 am

raja wrote:McSweeney gone, but I can't see BCCI boys pulling this back.

216 all out.
After being 183/4.
You can't say I haven't done my job. :grin:

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:35 am

(My job is only half-done)

I can't see these guys chasing.
They managed to pull Australia back a bit but this is the final - and I sense a lot of nerves in the BCCI camp.
They're always better setting a big target than chasing one.
We saw what happened with the Woman's WC final.

I won't be surprised if these guys choke.
Australian U-19 look far more composed.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:21 am

raja wrote:(My job is only half-done)

I can't see these guys chasing.
They managed to pull Australia back a bit but this is the final - and I sense a lot of nerves in the BCCI camp.
They're always better setting a big target than chasing one.
We saw what happened with the Woman's WC final.

I won't be surprised if these guys choke.
Australian U-19 look far more composed.

I saw something similar in 2012 raja when India won the final comfortably chasing. Sadly this will end the same way..weather permitting . Australia were at least 50 runs short.. Where was the intent..specially against the spinners. Hats off to the Indian bowling all the same.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:48 am

How I rate the Australians out of 10. (These figures are up to the semi finals only).

J. Edwards 8 (216r 5w)

M. Bryant 4 (97)

J.Sangha(c) 7.5 (229r)

J. Merlo 7.5 (149r 5w)

P. Uppal 6 (119r 1w)

N. McSweeney 7 (211r)

W. Sutherland 5 (4w 56r)

B Holt 6.5 (11d 56r)

Z. Evans 3 (3w)

R. Hadley 3 (3w)

L. Pope 6 (11w)

J.Ralston 7 (7w in his one match)

A.Waugh 2

X.Bartlett 2.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:00 am

Sledging is about all Australia has left. Unless Pope can do something extraordinary again then India will cruise to victory.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:02 am

James' Sunderland's son playing.

Nepotism or talent ?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:06 am

bolero wrote:James' Sunderland's son playing.

Nepotism or talent ?
Have a look at my rating of him and his figures for the WC.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:07 am

bolero wrote:James' Sunderland's son playing.

Nepotism or talent ?


Will leave it to the Aussies here to answer.

Right now, he's on.

Will Sutherland...or won't he?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:08 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
bolero wrote:James' Sunderland's son playing.

Nepotism or talent ?
Have a look at my rating of him and his figures for the WC.


Got the answer.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:08 am

He does.
Sutherland sends Prithvi back!

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Tinsel » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:09 am

bolero wrote:James' Sunderland's son playing.

Nepotism or talent ?

I knows but he just clean Bowled Shaw
Axar & Chahal failed to take wicket at Banglore vs Proteas A

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:12 am

At what point will nerves kick in for the BCCI boys?
1/3rd of the way there, but the 144 to get could seem like double that number if another wicket goes soon.
I sense some nerves already.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:52 am

Gill gone.
Is this when nerves kick in?
BCCI's game to lose.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:56 am

Uppal bowls Gill with a beauty. He will play senior cricket for Australia I am certain of that.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:03 am

Harbhajan Singh is a die-hard India supporter, but come Saturday, he will be rooting for Australia, particularly when his grandson Param Uppal takes the field at the Under-19 World Cup final in Mount Maunganui.

In Chandigarh, he used to make three-year old Param sit on his lap and divert his attention to the cricket while his parents were away at work. More than a decade later, Harbhajan remembers this fondly in Queenstown, where he has followed Australia's tournament up until the quarter-final. He flew home to Sydney before the semi-final, with his daughter-in-law Jaspreet, Param's mother, who had to return to work, but will be "watching from start to finish on finals day," says Devinder Singh Uppal, Param's father, who has stayed back in New Zealand with a few other parents.

"I applied for leaves six months ago, even before he was selected," says Devinder, who works at the New South Wales transport department. "I always wanted to be there if he was picked."

Barring an injury, Param's selection was all but certain in April 2017 when he captained Australia Under-19s for a home series against Sri Lanka. On debut, he scored a hundred too. Later in the year, he was awarded Player of the Series in Australia's Under-19 ODI championship for being the highest run-scorer.

The Uppals moved to Australia from India in 2003 when Param was four years old. Devinder, a lawyer in the Haryana High Court, gave up his practice of 10 years to shift base while Jaspreet completed a teaching course in Sydney to take up a job at a school. Param grew up in an environment that is typical of most Indian families - play cricket, but not at the expense of academics.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby squarecut » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:50 am

Tinsel wrote:Sorry Gill (372) you not able to break record of Athanaze’s 418 Aggregates Of runs in on going under 19 World Cup.Athanaze exciting young Westindies number 4 batsman who hits 2 Century and 3 scores of 50’s in 6 innings in current u19 WC

Lara and Sobers takes special interest to develope his career in higher Level cricket


West Indies finished third in their group and failed to qualify for super league. Most of the runs of Athanaze in this U-19 world cup have come against minnow level bowlings on Kenya, Canada, Sri Lanka. What exciting level batsman if his team finished only tenth in the tournament.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:54 am

squarecut wrote:
Tinsel wrote:Sorry Gill (372) you not able to break record of Athanaze’s 418 Aggregates Of runs in on going under 19 World Cup.Athanaze exciting young Westindies number 4 batsman who hits 2 Century and 3 scores of 50’s in 6 innings in current u19 WC

Lara and Sobers takes special interest to develope his career in higher Level cricket


West Indies finished third in their group and failed to qualify for super league. Most of the runs of Athanaze in this U-19 world cup have come against minnow level bowlings on Kenya, Canada, Sri Lanka. What exciting level batsman if his team finished only tenth in the tournament.


Because of his cut , copy, paste tendency he has overlooked this.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:55 am

India are world champs.. congrats.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:56 am

There it is!

BCCI U19 winners of the World Cup.

Congratulations!

Excellent performance, right through the tournament!

Authoritative in every single game.

Just look at the margin of victory in every game.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:00 am

India has won the World Cup Under 19 tournament.

Congrats to Australia for reaching the final and India for winning the tournament.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Going South » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:58 pm

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well done dravid !

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Boycs » Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:54 pm

Oooo is he the U19 coach?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:55 am

Yes

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Leo » Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:36 am

Congratulations India.
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