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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:34 am

Edwards deserves his place but how does Bryant remain in this side with his poorish returns.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:36 am

Tinsel wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:Pakistan were Australia's opposition in the final of the last WC held in NZ.. back in 2010. Team was led by Mitch Marsh.


So last WC also held in NZ ?
No. You misunderstood. The last Australia vs Pakistan final was also in NZ.. in 2010.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:50 am

Another failure to Bryant.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:03 am

Love Edward's intent. The kid has talent as well.. as evidenced by those two lofted sixes off the mystery spinner.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:38 am

Huge blow losing Sangha. Can the rest pick the ball spinning the other way. We will see.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:01 am

Come on, Afghanistan.

Normally I'd support Australia, but it's just so wonderful to see Afghanistan come up as a new force in cricket.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:04 am

Merlo threw away his wicket. Bat sensibly from here and the final is ours Aussies.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:06 am

Now Edwards has gone after a terrific knock. Aussies teetering a little with the target within site.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:14 am

Australia should win this one but my sympathies with Afghanistan.As a country, they have been through a lot.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:20 am

This guy Mujeeb who is playing for Afg has been picked for one of the IPL teams.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:30 am

Just 22 needed now boys. Keep concentrating.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:31 am

bolero wrote:This guy Mujeeb who is playing for Afg has been picked for one of the IPL teams.
Is that not too much pressure on a boy still not 17.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:37 am

I can see Afghanistan competing favorably with most of the established Test nations..specially on spinning decks.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:47 am

:dance: Outstanding performance Baby Baggies :dance:

26 of the 37 overs were bowled by spinners.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:11 am

Australia is the Millwall of world cricket
everybody hates us but we dont care :lol:

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:43 am

Katto wrote:Australia is the Millwall of world cricket
everybody hates us but we dont care :lol:

Australia has long been my favourite cricket side but Afghanistan comes before Australia in alphabetical order. :grin:

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby squarecut » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:30 am

Afghanistan are coming up fast but they still have a long way to go. Till now they win when their opponents have off days. Much like how Bangladesh used to pull of their rare wins. The Afghanistan players are lion hearted and gutsy, and this admirable quality will see them make rapid progress in the game. They will need to have proper batsmen, rather than sloggers, especially in the longer format of the game.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:52 am

India Pak match will be a cracker.

Pakistan's left arm pace sensation Shaheen Afridi will be a threat.

Indian pace attack revolves around Shivam Mavi and Kamlesh Nagarkoti, both of whom bowl over 140 kmph.

Batting revolves around Prithvi Shaw and Shubman Gill.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:02 am

Dravid keeps boys' focus on World Cup knockouts ahead of IPL auction

It's the week leading up to the IPL auction and as many as nine India Under-19 players currently at the World Cup in New Zealand are among 578 cricketers who will go under the hammer. That they have filtered through to the final list from an initial pool off 1122 players signifies interest from the franchises. But with the Under-19 World Cup in the knockout stage, India coach Rahul Dravid doesn't want his boys to look beyond their immediate challenge: Bangladesh in the quarter-final.
Among those in the auction pool from the current batch are captain Prithvi Shaw, Shubman Gill, Himanshu Rana, Abhishek Sharma, Riyan Parag, Kamlesh Nagarkoti, Shivam Mavi, Arshdeep Singh and Harvik Desai.

"There's no point hiding from the fact that it is there. It is around the corner," Dravid said of the auction that will be held in Bengaluru this weekend. "There's no point living in the bubble and pretending it doesn't exist. We do discuss it. We've spoken about what their focus should be and what their long-term goals are as compared to their short-term goals."

Following the conclusion of the Under-19 Challenger Trophy in November in Mumbai, a number of players were invited by Mumbai Indians for selection trials, only to be called back by the team management, keeping in mind their immediate priorities of playing in a World Cup. The team management was mindful of "players being distracted" by a number of other aspects like signing bat sponsorships and being acquired by talent management companies, in the build up to the tournament.

With the auction dynamics being as they are, there is a possibility that a number of players could be auctioned for the kind of money they are yet to see. There is also a flipside, having to deal with a group of young players who might go unsold. Dravid, though, has prior experience of this, during the 2016 World Cup in Bangladesh, and has passed on a clear message: 'One or two auctions won't make or break players.'

"The auction is not something the boys can control," Dravid said. "One or two auctions won't really have a long-term impact on their careers. There is an auction every year, but not every year will they have an opportunity to play for India in possibly a World Cup semi-final. That doesn't come very often."

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:08 am

I would love to see Mavi and Nagarkoti bowling alongside Starc or Johnson in IPL. They will learn a lot.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:42 am

Aussie vs India in final after the Indians hammered Pakistan today.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:03 am

India Vs Aus once again. Match promises to be a cracker.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:09 am

I think it's not just the talent/skill of these U19 players that has got them to the final.
Rahul Dravid, being the U19 coach, makes a big difference.
Not just guiding them technically, but also the right frame of mind.
He is always so level-headed and focussed.
Terrific mentor to have.
They couldn't have asked for a better Indian coach, I think.

It would probably not work with the senior team - he'd probably get the same treatment as Kumble - but for the U19, it works great.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:18 am

Dravid is a great mentor for these kids. His feet are always planted to the ground.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:27 am

bolero wrote:India Vs Aus once again. Match promises to be a cracker.
Aussies will be out to avenge the loss in 2012 final in North Qld which I saw live by the way.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 30, 2018 5:46 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
bolero wrote:India Vs Aus once again. Match promises to be a cracker.
Aussies will be out to avenge the loss in 2012 final in North Qld which I saw live by the way.


Somehow there is a rivalry between the 2 teams at the senior level and now junior level as well.

Both teams up their game when playing against each other.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby squarecut » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:20 am

At one stage, Mavi's analysis read 3-3-0-0. Intense pressure created by him and later Nagarkoti (together they conceded 13 runs in 9 overs) forced Pakistani batsmen to take chances against Porel and Porel capitalised with 4/17.

Mavi bowling upto 145 kmph. Nagarkoti bowling upto 146 kmph. All the inverstment that were made on pacers over the last couple of decades is finally paying off with so many tearaway pacers coming up. If we had such pacers three decades ago, then I am sure there would be no batting heroics against India from the likes of Miandad, Saeed Anwar, Mudassar Nazar etc.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:24 am

I agree with Squarecut's analysis.

Pakistani fans look shocked at the scoreline claiming India were a weak team in Asia Cup.

What they are not aware is that India did not field its best Under 19 team in Asia Cup. It was like a 'B' team which was sent to the Cup. Prithvi Shaw was busy opening the innings for Mumbai in Ranji trophy. he is already playing with senior level. And Prithvi has had a stint in England with Gloucestershire. He trained for sometime in England.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:28 am

“I am a professional and when I see talent I know it. If he keeps up the work, in five years he will arguably be the best batsman in the world,” Julian Wood had prophesied about a 13-year-old Prithvi in the summer of 2013, months before he had slammed the 546 in school cricket and made headlines as the ‘next Sachin Tendulkar’. A former Hampshire all-rounder, Wood is currently a renowned coach in England and has eye for talent.

Five years later, Prithvi Shaw is leading the Indian side in the Under-19 World Cup. Best batsman? At his age, he will remain a work in progress as was Tendulkar, but he has comfortably looked the best batsman in his age group.

Debuting for the star-studded Mumbai at 17, that too in a Ranji Trophy semi-final last season, Prithvi immediately impressed with a hundred. He would later slam a hundred on his Duleep Trophy debut as well.

Let us forget the numbers for a moment.

From short selection to technique to composure to ability to dominate, Prithvi has stood out in all his outings so far. He recently said that though it isn’t easy facing the bowlers in First-Class cricket, he finds it easy to pick them, in terms of what the bowler is going to bowl.

Rahul Dravid, India Under-19 coach, believes Prithvi is more mature than his peers and colleagues and about how the World Cup has thrown the spotlight on him, where he will learn to live up to the expectations.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/articles/ ... ket-679343

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:50 am

bolero wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote: Aussies will be out to avenge the loss in 2012 final in North Qld which I saw live by the way.


Somehow there is a rivalry between the 2 teams at the senior level and now junior level as well.

Both teams up their game when playing against each other.


hmm dunno. India won the prelim game pretty easily. I expect the same in the final.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

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bolero wrote:
Rahul Dravid, India Under-19 coach, believes Prithvi is more mature than his peers and colleagues and about how the World Cup has thrown the spotlight on him, where he will learn to live up to the expectations.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/articles/ ... ket-679343


Indeed, the replies that Prithvi Shaw gives during post match presentation shows that he has a calm head over his shoulders and he does not get carried even with big wins. It is an admirable maturity in someone so young.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:27 am

Hope he becomes the next famous ' Shaw ' after George Bernard Shaw.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

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squarecut wrote:
bolero wrote:
Rahul Dravid, India Under-19 coach, believes Prithvi is more mature than his peers and colleagues and about how the World Cup has thrown the spotlight on him, where he will learn to live up to the expectations.

http://www.cricketcountry.com/articles/ ... ket-679343


Indeed, the replies that Prithvi Shaw gives during post match presentation shows that he has a calm head over his shoulders and he does not get carried even with big wins. It is an admirable maturity in someone so young.


Good to see.

We have the opposite example of Vinod Kambli who lost his career to indiscipline, booze and womanizing.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:13 am

India have won 3 World Cup Under 19 titles till date, 2000 under Mohammad Kaif, 2008 under Virat Kohli and 2012 under Unmukt Chand.

India have lost 2 World Cup Under 19 finals, 2006 under Cheteswara Pujara and 2016 under Ishan Kishan.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

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Shubman Gill a better player than Prithvi Shaw: Sourav Ganguly

Former India captain Sourav Ganguly hailed Shubman Gill's hundred in the ICC U-19 World Cup semi-final on Tuesday and went on to say that he sees a bit of Brian Lara and Kane Williamson in the young Indian batsman.

Gill smashed an unbeaten 102 off 94 balls to power India to 272/9 in the second semi-final against Pakistan at Christchurch.

The Indian fast bowlers and spinners then turned on the heat on the arch-rivals and bowled them out for a paltry 69 in 29.3 overs to register victory by 203 runs. Bengal pacer Ishan Porel grabbed 4 wickets for 17 runs while Anukul Roy and Riyan Parag took two wickets each.

Gill's hundred was his first in first-class cricket and it was his fourth successive score of over 50 in the tournament. The Punjab cricketer has enjoyed a dream run in the World Cup with scores of 63, 90*, 86 and 102*.

"I actually feel Shubman Gill is a better player than Prithvi Shaw. I feel he is the best player in this team. He is a bit like Brian Lara and Kane Williamson. Even Ishan Porel who plays for Bengal, created havoc with the new ball. He was injured at the start of the tournament and couldn't play for a week. It's great to see him back, get fit and come and bowl so well. They are special these kids," Ganguly told India Today in an exclusive chat.

The Cricket Association of Bengal president also praised the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) for putting up such fantastic infrastructure in place for the U-19 boys to prosper.

"Over the years, the systems in Indian cricket has improved so much that it makes even the U-19 sides so strong. I am an administrator being the president of Cricket Association of Bengal so I know exactly

what all systems are put in place by the board in making U-19 cricket so good," Ganguly said.

"I am not surprised with what I've seen in this competition because I have seen them live. When I see them I see so much difference between India and the rest," he added.

Praising the strength of the Indian team, Ganguly predicted a big future for these young stars.

"Not just Pakistan, every team has been decimated like this. Look at those two fast bowlers - Shivam Mavi and Kamlesh Nagarkoti - bowling at over 140 at the age of 17-18. Anukul Roy of Assam has got a huge future, left-arm spinner Abhishek Sharma is also fantastic.

"Shubman Gill, Prithvi Shaw then there is the wicketkeeper Harvik Desai, these guys look much above the rest. It's also a direction for future that most of these boys will go on and play the top level in a few years time. The difference between India and the rest of the sides has been too much in this tournament," the 45-year-old said.

Ganguly also backed India to outclass Australia just like they did in the first match of the tournament when these two teams met.

"The first match India beat Australia by 100 runs and they are playing again in the final. If India does not have a poor day then it is going to be a one-sided final again. I will be really surprised if anything wrong happens in the final. It will be very hard for Australia to beat India," Ganguly said.

https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cricke ... 2018-01-30

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Recognise these, then under 19 kids.

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Yes

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:48 pm

Good one, bolero.
I recognised Irfan easily - should have recognised some of the others too. :-)

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One can notice Irfan Pathan, Suresh Raina, Piyush Chawla, Uthappa, Dinesh Kartik, Rayudu, V R V Singh

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:22 am

Many of the above guys flattered to deceive, some shone to wither away.

VRV Singh just could not make it at the highest level, was not good enough, I think he played a couple of ODI's.

Uthappa did play for a brief period in the shorter format. Dinesh Karthik is still around. Piyush Chawla was not good enough as Kumble and Mishra better bowlers were around.

Suresh Raina did sparkle in ODI's. Rayudu lost his best years to ICL. Irfan Pathan - best example of a talent gone waste under Greg Chappell.