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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:01 am

Boycs wrote:Nooooo the suns come out.

First delivery sealed a little thought. Second delivery too short. Pitch it up man. Third delivery still not making him play. Grrr


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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:03 am

Ten out of 9 times on day 4 runs came easily in most test matches in Global cricket world, Australians first 5 not looks like surrender easily

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:08 am

England missed Specialist spinner.i think each Melbourne Test,all Asian teams includes two Specialist spinner but we can not see one here.

Mo is not Specialist but Rashid,peter such,Ravi Patel.Swaan etc I wonder why Garry Ballance in the team,he should there at Sydney In place of Vince ( better than nothing)

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:10 am

Off Tom Curran reviews taken by England
I think not out

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:12 am

Root upset.he says ‘what the hail’ only 1 reviews left for next 73 overs

Aus 24 for 0

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:15 am

Baggies need to take it over by over and hour by hour. Leave the ball that does not need hitting until deficit is wiped.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:24 am

I've also been saying that Aussie strength (if at all) is their bowling. In this game, with Starc missing, it has been made to look very mediocre.
Starc has been missed no doubt. But bear in mind half of his of series wickets have been tailenders. That is where we miss him the most. No one in world cricket has a more dangerous yorker,over or around the wicket. With Bird toothless and a sick and below top pace Cummins the load was left on Hazlewood's shoulders and he stood the test I believe. I can not understand why Bird has been given so many overs and Mitch Marsh so few.
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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:31 am

baggygreenmania wrote:I've also been saying that Aussie strength (if at all) is their bowling. In this game, with Starc missing, it has been made to look very mediocre.
starc has been missed no doubt. But bear in mind half of his of series wickets have been tailenders. That is where we miss him the most. No one in world cricket has a more dangerous yorker than he. With Bird toothless and a sick Cummins the load was left on Hazlewood's shoulders and he stood the test I believe. I can not understand why Bird was giving so many overs and Mitch Marsh so few.

Bird took 4 here vs Pakistan plus next test Bird might playing

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:33 am

Wow one more news coming up
Cook become highest scorer while carried his bat, beating Glen Turner 223* in 386 minutes vs WI.Cooks 244* in 491 minutes

Congratulations

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:40 am

I think Shewag's 201* out of 329 away from India, iconic and Unique.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:00 am

Yorkshire wrote:Wow one more news coming up
Cook become highest scorer while carried his bat, beating Glen Turner 223* in 386 minutes vs WI.Cooks 244* in 491 minutes

Congratulations

England's score of 491 is also the highest total ever to include a Opener carrying his Bat.
England will go a long way to winning this match if they can get Smith before Lunch, have to get one of these 1st.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:07 am

Mick180461 wrote:
Yorkshire wrote:Wow one more news coming up
Cook become highest scorer while carried his bat, beating Glen Turner 223* in 386 minutes vs WI.Cooks 244* in 491 minutes

Congratulations

England's score of 491 is also the highest total ever to include a Opener carrying his Bat.
England will go a long way to winning this match if they can get Smith before Lunch, have to get one of these 1st.

Smith hits 165 not out and 76 here in his two innings.only way you can put him under pressure if England try Mo/Root from both end before Lunch, if Khawaja out now but he just took 10 off 2 balls.(6 and 4 brother to brother)

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:09 am

If Bancroft not hit that 4 before being bowled he might be still not out, he was carried away little bit.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:10 am

Khawaja hit 97 vs Pakistan here on Dec 28/29, 2016

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:12 am

One of the reasons why using Stats as a way of judging a player is not always a good way of doing it is Cooks series Stats.
Cook now has the quite good Series figures of 327 runs@54 but he is going to leave Australia bitterly disappointed about losing the Ashes and his own form one of the main reasons why.
Great knock but Cook will be the 1st to admit its come to late. Stuart Broad is the same, to little to late.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby MikeR68 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:40 am

baggygreenmania wrote:I've also been saying that Aussie strength (if at all) is their bowling. In this game, with Starc missing, it has been made to look very mediocre.
starc has been missed no doubt. But bear in mind half of his of series wickets have been tailenders. That is where we miss him the most. No one in world cricket has a more dangerous yorker than he. With Bird toothless and a sick Cummins the load was left on Hazlewood's shoulders and he stood the test I believe. I can not understand why Bird was giving so many overs and Mitch Marsh so few.


Agree on Bird baggers, after watching him against Qld, I think Rainbird and Bell out bowled him. What got him in the side was the 7 wickets taken against NSW but honestly what achievement is that really? Maddinson Larkin Hughes Pattinson Cowan and Nevill, not much there to rate.

"Bear in mind Starc's wickets have been tailenders?" Really Baggers you should check things out. 7 out of 19 wickets were tail. Hazlewood has taken 6 out of 18 tail enders (Broad in 1st test, Woakes in 2nd, Woakes and Overton twice in 3rd, Curran in 4th) Both have only take 12 "Batsmen" in the series it just took Hazlewood longer.

But I have to ask what network are you watching for the cricket? Hazlewood shouldered the workload? At the end of Day 2 he bowled 12 overs which was matched by a bowler blowing chunks from each end. Sure he took a wicket???? (Inside edge) but nothing else. That's why Cummins performance was so good, still recovering from illness, he took 4/80 and apart from a slight question on the Khawaja catch, all wickets Cummins took were out, unlike another bowler who shall remain nameless.

If we want to be serious about the upcoming South Africa tour, where their batsmen do average 40+ and with Kagiso Rabada, Vernon Philander and the possible return of Dale Steyn all averaging 22 you have to seriously look at the side and I don't think just the return of Starc is the answer. Bancroft Marsh brothers and Khawaja will be found out, so how do we respond....Josh Hazlewood, yeah right. Cummins and Starc will have to be firing on all cylinders to dismiss SA, can't afford to carry any illnesses and it's too late to try someone else... so Bird it is to tour.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:49 am

James Anderson.. the swing master!!

Nine comms have identified Bancroft has a serious flaw in his technique with his toe often pointing to cover when it should be directly down the pitch. His dismissal by playing on clearly pinpointed the problem.

Hazlewood shouldered the workload? At the end of Day 2 he bowled 12 overs which was matched by a bowler blowing chunks from each end.
Talking about Day 3. Ok Cummins was probably feeling better but his pace was still down. Bird was a passenger, Mitch Marsh was underbowled and Lyon, jagged a couple but did not look all that threatening. Nine comms are saying Hazlewood has been Australia's best bowler in the series. As do quite a few here and on other sports sites. Only you appear to be the odd one out Mike.
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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:52 am

Mick180461 wrote:One of the reasons why using Stats as a way of judging a player is not always a good way of doing it is Cooks series Stats.
Cook now has the quite good Series figures of 327 runs@54 but he is going to leave Australia bitterly disappointed about losing the Ashes and his own form one of the main reasons why.
Great knock but Cook will be the 1st to admit its come to late. Stuart Broad is the same, to little to late.


I think Broad should drops from England team who hits 50 every 3 years or took more than 3 wickets after every 9 Test, plenty of talent in England, only good thing about him is his tight spell give wickets to Anderson / Woakes

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:57 am

Yorkshire wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:England's score of 491 is also the highest total ever to include a Opener carrying his Bat.
England will go a long way to winning this match if they can get Smith before Lunch, have to get one of these 1st.

Smith hits 165 not out and 76 here in his two innings.only way you can put him under pressure if England try Mo/Root from both end before Lunch, if Khawaja out now but he just took 10 off 2 balls.(6 and 4 brother to brother)


Plenty over left in last two session but if Australia manages 335 in the second innings I do not think England can even win here on day 5

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:07 am

Guptill out off Taylor for 5

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Katto » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:25 am

baggygreenmania wrote:James Anderson.. the swing master!!

Nine comms have identified Bancroft has a serious flaw in his technique with his toe often pointing to cover when it should be directly down the pitch. His dismissal by playing on clearly pinpointed the problem.

Hazlewood shouldered the workload? At the end of Day 2 he bowled 12 overs which was matched by a bowler blowing chunks from each end.
Talking about Day 3. Ok Cummins was probably feeling better but his pace was still down. Bird was a passenger, Mitch Marsh was underbowled and Lyon, jagged a couple but did not look all that threatening. Nine comms are saying Hazlewood has been Australia's best bowler in the series. As do quite a few here and on other sports sites. Only you appear to be the odd one out Mike.


He's entitled to his opinion and just because the majority disagree doesn't make him wrong. Never subscribe to groupthink promoted by the media.
That said, Katto disagrees and is of opinion that Hazlewood is the banker in this Aussie bowling line up.

Also that said, the Aussies have bowled inferior to England in this match. Maybe tactically they've gotten it wrong.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Katto » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:53 am

dodgy poms lol

England warned over suspicious ball tactics
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Umpires have seemingly cautioned England about their bounce returns at the MCG, a tactic used to scuff one side of the ball and quickly attain reverse-swing.

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VIDEO The umpires weren't happy with the Ashes tourists. Source: Channel Nine

Joe Root, Stuart Broad and Jimmy Anderson were all involved in a tense discussion with umpire Sundaram Ravi on the morning of day four of the fourth Ashes Test.

Ravi later had a long chat with Root following the morning drinks break.

The Nine Network suggested the discussions were about the fact Root and many teammates had failed to return the ball on the full to keeper Jonny Bairstow.

Nine also highlighted footage of Jimmy Anderson attempting to clean the shiny side of the ball with his thumb.

The umps aren't happy with England. Pic: AAP

The practice of using the abrasive centre-wicket block to help rough up one side of the ball is frowned upon but widely used.

Fielders can argue it was a wayward return but the excuse doesn't work as well when they're close in.

"Ball reversing under 10 overs," former Test paceman Mitchell Johnson tweeted during Friday's morning session.


The tourists also regularly attempted to throw down the stumps down on day four, even when there was no hope of a run-out.

The same issue cropped up during last summer, when South Africa skipper Faf du Plessis was given a rebuke from both umpires at the WACA.

Umpires Aleem Dar and Nigel Llong spoke with du Plessis at length during the first Test, unhappy with the tourists' sloppy returns.


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VIDEO Under-fire batsman Alastair Cook rewrote the record books on a dominant day for England at the MCG.

England veteran Broad noted reverse-swing would be one of the keys to victory in Melbourne after claiming 4-51 on day two.

"We saw an interview Sakesy (Australia's bowling coach David Saker) did before the Test, talking about how important reverse-swing is at the MCG," he said.

"It's proven (correct). It doesn't really seam or swing conventionally."

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Katto » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:04 am

we had rain in Brisbane didnt we?
if so that'd be every test this summer has been rain affected. I wonder when the last time that happened.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:09 am

England did something with the ball, I watched live on Sony ESPN India.
Too slow by two Giant -- 21* in 16 overs, overall 14 maiden

Umpire although change the ball

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:10 am

NZ 128 for 4 off 15
50's by Phillips / Munro
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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:17 am

England Claims batting condition was not ideal were game was played after rains during 3rd test.Right now heavy rains at Melbourne, probably Rains also interrupt
Youth 2nd game, Aus/pak U19,also at Melbourne.Pak lead 1/0

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:20 am

Katto wrote:we had rain in Brisbane didnt we?
if so that'd be every test this summer has been rain affected. I wonder when the last time that happened.

Never happen in whole series.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:22 am

Raja will admit in hospital, if rains not stops in next 120 minutes or game not restarts By 11 o'clock IST

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:56 am

Yorkshire wrote:NZ 128 for 4 off 15
50's by Phillips / Munro
New batsman Kitchen

Who will be followed by Bath, Bed and Laundry :lmao: Phillips TV?

sorry just couldn't let that pass, is Broom playing today

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby raja » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:24 am

I hope at least now the hype around Usman Khawaja ends.
I was never convinced about this guy - but everyone was talking as if he was the best thing since sliced butter. Hot talent et al.
On the face of it, he has a decent Test average - 42.95.
Not great in these times, but decent.
You'd expect better from a pure batsman, that too batting at No3.

But it gets worse.
Let's face it - as an Aussie (or Englishman) your Test match worth is measured primarily by your contribution in the Ashes.

Let's look at Khawaja's record.
Average of 72 against NZ, 66 against Pak, even 48 against SA - and 23.85 against England?
Sorry, that's Amiss-like in my book.

I don't care if he gets a triple ton against other sides - but as long as he keeps failing against England (and at No3, that means immediately putting pressure on No4, Smith), I can't rate the guy.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby bolero » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:25 am

I was never taken in by Khawaja too.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Katto » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:34 am

I'm not going to defend him however he got a good delivery.
Anderson and reverse swing with that tampered ball, would get most batsmen out. He probably wasn't expecting that movement and hung the bat out.

How many are going by scoreline without seeing the actual coverage?

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:45 am

Rains not bother me as
NZ vs WI just completed while
Ranji trophy Final in progress as Delhi 65 for 3 vs no body


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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby raja » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:55 am

Katto wrote:I'm not going to defend him however he got a good delivery.
Anderson and reverse swing with that tampered ball, would get most batsmen out. He probably wasn't expecting that movement and hung the bat out.

How many are going by scoreline without seeing the actual coverage?


I am. :grin:

Khawaja's case reminds me of that of Dilip Vengsarkar.

Vengsarkar shot into the limelight as a 19-year old in 1975 when, in the Irani Trophy (a match played between Ranji Champions and Rest of India), he struck a brilliant 110, toying with legendary bowlers like Erapalli Prasanna.

He was immediately picked for the Indian squad for the twin tour of New Zealand and West Indies. That he was from Mumbai (and Gavaskar, a fellow-Mumbaikar was then God of Indian cricket) might have helped.

It took Vengsarkar 20 innings to get his first Test 50 - in Australia against a Packer-impoverished Aussie side.
For a pure batsman, to be given such a long rope, was rare - but there are perks to being a Mumbaikar. (Is my anti-Mumbai bias showing? :grin: )

But to Vengsarkar's credit, he did then come up with a fighting 76 at Lahore in 1978 when everyone else struggled. And thereafter never looked back. That he did well in England in swing conditions, made him a rarest of rare case for Indian batsmen. :-)

So he did eventually justify the selectors' faith in him, though it took time.

Khawaja is already 31 - so if we are still "discovering" his talent, maybe we'll find it out when he hits 50. Not as a score, but in age.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby raja » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:57 am

Katto wrote:I'm not going to defend him however he got a good delivery.
Anderson and reverse swing with that tampered ball, would get most batsmen out. He probably wasn't expecting that movement and hung the bat out.


This is exactly what a lot of Indians say when Rahane gets out in Tests.
He's often got out to quality deliveries - maybe just his bad luck.
But then if you expect only average bowling and are deceived by a good ball every time, what sort of quality batsman are you?

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Katto » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:05 am

This washout plays more into England hands as pitch conditions could change with the moisture and they still have plenty of time to trigger a collapse and get the required runs if any. At this point I'd have England favourite and the draw second. Aussies no chance.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Katto » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:07 am

raja wrote:
Katto wrote:I'm not going to defend him however he got a good delivery.
Anderson and reverse swing with that tampered ball, would get most batsmen out. He probably wasn't expecting that movement and hung the bat out.


This is exactly what a lot of Indians say when Rahane gets out in Tests.
He's often got out to quality deliveries - maybe just his bad luck.
But then if you expect only average bowling and are deceived by a good ball every time, what sort of quality batsman are you?


Point is he probably wasn't expecting the movement here - he was playing the conditions and not expecting England to tamper with the ball.
Warner has done a lot better at leaving over the past 12 months. Something Khawaja needs to learn fast. I'd rate S.Marsh above him at this point.
Smith is less of an issue because he gets inside the line. (the way to get Smith out is to attack the stumps)

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby raja » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:16 am

Katto wrote:This washout plays more into England hands as pitch conditions could change with the moisture and they still have plenty of time to trigger a collapse and get the required runs if any. At this point I'd have England favourite and the draw second. Aussies no chance.

I'd say England 100%, draw and Aussies no chance.

Am already looking ahead to the SCG. This one's gone already.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Katto » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:34 am

raja wrote:
Katto wrote:This washout plays more into England hands as pitch conditions could change with the moisture and they still have plenty of time to trigger a collapse and get the required runs if any. At this point I'd have England favourite and the draw second. Aussies no chance.

I'd say England 100%, draw and Aussies no chance.

Am already looking ahead to the SCG. This one's gone already.


respect the god of RJ. If he's abused he does exactly what you instructed to avoid as we saw on day 2. Subtlety is key :)

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Katto » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:02 am

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby bolero » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:03 am

Katto wrote:This washout plays more into England hands as pitch conditions could change with the moisture and they still have plenty of time to trigger a collapse and get the required runs if any. At this point I'd have England favourite and the draw second. Aussies no chance.


I agree.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby bolero » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:05 am

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Katto wrote:I'm not going to defend him however he got a good delivery.
Anderson and reverse swing with that tampered ball, would get most batsmen out. He probably wasn't expecting that movement and hung the bat out.

How many are going by scoreline without seeing the actual coverage?


I am. :grin:

Khawaja's case reminds me of that of Dilip Vengsarkar.

Vengsarkar shot into the limelight as a 19-year old in 1975 when, in the Irani Trophy (a match played between Ranji Champions and Rest of India), he struck a brilliant 110, toying with legendary bowlers like Erapalli Prasanna.

He was immediately picked for the Indian squad for the twin tour of New Zealand and West Indies. That he was from Mumbai (and Gavaskar, a fellow-Mumbaikar was then God of Indian cricket) might have helped.

It took Vengsarkar 20 innings to get his first Test 50 - in Australia against a Packer-impoverished Aussie side.
For a pure batsman, to be given such a long rope, was rare - but there are perks to being a Mumbaikar. (Is my anti-Mumbai bias showing? :grin: )

But to Vengsarkar's credit, he did then come up with a fighting 76 at Lahore in 1978 when everyone else struggled. And thereafter never looked back. That he did well in England in swing conditions, made him a rarest of rare case for Indian batsmen. :-)

So he did eventually justify the selectors' faith in him, though it took time.

Khawaja is already 31 - so if we are still "discovering" his talent, maybe we'll find it out when he hits 50. Not as a score, but in age.


I have met Vengsarkar's brother some 23 odd years ago. He was my dentist's neighbour and looks a carbon copy of Vengsarkar.

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:52 am

raja wrote:
Katto wrote:This washout plays more into England hands as pitch conditions could change with the moisture and they still have plenty of time to trigger a collapse and get the required runs if any. At this point I'd have England favourite and the draw second. Aussies no chance.

I'd say England 100%, draw and Aussies no chance.

Am already looking ahead to the SCG. This one's gone already.

I think you learn from Amit shah and Amitabh B because you wants 3/2 now you satisfy with 4/0 OR 3/0

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:00 am

Mick180461 wrote:
Yorkshire wrote:NZ 128 for 4 off 15
50's by Phillips / Munro
New batsman Kitchen

Who will be followed by Bath, Bed and Laundry :lmao: Phillips TV?

sorry just couldn't let that pass, is Broom playing today


Ha ha ha no Broom today, Bed_ser no longer active plus Kitchen just Dumpster himself, Cook will coming soon in February,

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:00 pm

England will play couple of test in NZ in February 2018

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:19 pm

Jack Hobbs
Herbert Sutcliffe
Scored 3 Century in 3 innings at Melbourne

Hayden,Ian Chappell too,hits 3 in 3.
Bill Lawry hits 3 in 3 successive innings at Melbourne

Aus 111 for 2
Warner 48 not out
Warner now has 2 in 2 successive innings his 50 not out is his 3rd innings
Warner / smith 50* partnership in 31 overs

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:12 am

Ashton Agar added in Australian team for Sydney Test, ahead of Left arm spin of
O’Keeffe and Holland .

I think England should try Mason Crane now.Sydney track could assist spinner

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:30 am

Most members into deep sleeps as RR fall to 2:22,Warner need 27 more for his 3rd Successive 100 in 3 innings here

Aus 145 for 2
Smith 33 not out
Aus still a Trailing by 19 runs

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby Yorkshire » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:39 am

Yorkshire wrote:Ashton Agar added in Australian team for Sydney Test, ahead of Left arm spin of
O’Keeffe and Holland .

I think England should try Mason Crane now.Sydney track could assist spinner


Malan who took 52 wickets in F.C. Gone for 4 in his first over.i wonder why Root not Chance his arm

83 not out DW
38 not out SS

Rain stopped play
159 for 2

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Re: Australia vs England: 4th Ashes Tests; Dec 26-30, 2017 at Melbourne

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:44 am

Good news re Ashton Agar. He has been on CA radar for some time. I do question his match fitness tho as he has only just returned from a longish injury. John Holland is in top form and would have been my choice.