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The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Leo » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:31 am

Venue: Western Australian Cricket Association, Perth
Date: Thursday Dec 14 to Monday Dec 18, 2017
Start Time: 10:30 local (02:30 GMT)

Australia Squad
Steven Smith (C), David Warner, Cameron Bancroft, Jackson Bird, Pat Cummins, Peter Handscomb, Josh Hazlewood, Usman Khawaja, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Shaun Marsh, Tim Paine (WK), Mitchell Starc

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Joe Root (C), Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow, Jake Ball, Gary Ballance, Stuart Broad, Alastair Cook, Mason Crane, Ben Foakes (WK), George Garton, Dawid Malan, Craig Overton, Ben Stokes, Mark Stoneman, James Vince, Chris Woakes
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Leo » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:31 am

Good Luck England :)
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:32 am

it feels like we've had this thread twice before and its been deleted :)

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Leo » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:33 am

^^ Really!!!! :P
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Boycs » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:45 am

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:58 am

Bring it on. Curator moots a super fast WACA deck for the iconic ground's final Ashes match. Baggy Greens to wrap up the series but could be a close one as England is playing for survival. There will be no shortage of hunger from the "old enemy"

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Boycs » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:33 am

Yorkshire wrote:
Katto wrote:it feels like we've had this thread twice before and its been deleted :)

I did open twice but English supporter think if we keep deleting, we could stops Australia from winning Ashes.thanks Leo.


I almost bit at this post but recovered my maturity at the last moment and just deleted it :)

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Boycs » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:43 am

Nothing massive gained from the warm up match given that none of the test team played other than Moeen. But Keaton made an 80 and leach took four.

Meanwhile they’ve suspended duckett after yet another discipline-related fracas of nonsense.

Team falling apart (again)

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:59 am

a bit of warm weather and poms cant seem to help themselves but get a skinful of alcohol :)

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Verity » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:03 am

Surely some of the batsmen that have sucked like Cook should have played the tour game.
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Yorkshire » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:58 pm

Anderson likely to be less damaging in Perth tests
Says C.Bancroft

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:36 pm

i liked your Jusin Langer avatar misty. It had a certain trolling quality about it

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Shambles » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:17 pm

Tom Curran was a positive from the 2 day friendly. Not many others. Reckon Warner will cash in here & Australia gets 600 & wins by an innings.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby TedWard » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:28 pm

I enjoyed this write up / fare well to the WACA by an English reporter.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42295141
"Cruel comedy and eviscerations - England's misery at their Waca graveyard"

The English have never had any reason to enjoy visiting the WACA.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Boycs » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:53 pm

Indeed. Wave good bye to the ashes here folks. This tour has been a shambles, on and off the field. One bowling innings is all we’ve won so far.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:59 pm

Shambles wrote:Tom Curran was a positive from the 2 day friendly. Not many others. Reckon Warner will cash in here & Australia gets 600 & wins by an innings.
Curran..yet another Saffer import. Suspect the home grown player is fed up to the back teeth with imports taking their place in the national pecking order. Having said that, Curran was rather impressive..bowls at the stumps and is no mug with the willow in hand.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:02 pm

There is minimal protection for those watching the cricket and even less for those playing it. Just the fierce western Australian sun and the sweat and the fear of that pitch in the middle of it all, the fastest, nastiest track an English batsman will ever take guard on.

No other sporting stadium in the world has wrecked as many English dreams as the Waca. In 46 years of Test cricket there, they have played in 13 matches and been defeated nine times.

Gladdens this Aussie's heart to read this.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:27 am

There is minimal protection for those watching the cricket and even less for those playing it. Just the fierce western Australian sun
That is pretty much the reason the WACA has lost its elite Test match status to the classy new Perth Stadium.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:39 am

Yorkshire wrote:Anderson likely to be less damaging in Perth tests
Says C.Bancroft
Correct. The WACA has never had a reputation for swing or seam (unless it is coming out of a gaping crack)..just pace. It has been no better than a road this season. I do expect tho, the curator to prepare a spiced up Test deck of old to cater for our quicker pacemen.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Paddles » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:16 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Shambles wrote:Tom Curran was a positive from the 2 day friendly. Not many others. Reckon Warner will cash in here & Australia gets 600 & wins by an innings.
Curran..yet another Saffer import. Suspect the home grown player is fed up to the back teeth with imports taking their place in the national pecking order. Having said that, Curran was rather impressive..bowls at the stumps and is no mug with the willow in hand.


His Dad and Grandad played for Zimbabwe. His dad was at Northhants England where his brothers were born and his dad was playing there before his birth.

His English links look strong with parents moving between the places with his Dad a pro for Northants and Natal in South Africa both for a long period. Probably boarding school in Safrica through high school and holidays with parents in England and Natal both - I'm guessing here but its a fairly common and cost effective in a GBP vs SAR way occurence of obtaining a top education at an academic and sporting private school.

Wait till Kyle Abbott plays for England in 2 or 3 years time replacing Anderson. You heard it here first :p
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Boycs » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:53 pm

Cookie is having to go to the media to eject claims that he’s going to retire.

In form or out of form he’s still the same unexcitable vanilla custard

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Yorkshire » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:25 pm

I feel so sorry for English cricket team in Australia,I am so upset about certain former cricketer passed comments for star English player.i am sure Cook will bounce back into form

This is very much trend now, visiting team not doing good in overseas test tour.Cook told to cricbuzz “ all of Us will play Lifetime innings’s in the third Test”

Good Luck

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Verity » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:16 am

Yorkshire wrote:I feel so sorry for English cricket team in Australia,I am so upset about certain former cricketer passed comments for star English player.i am sure Cook will bounce back into form

This is very much trend now, visiting team not doing good in overseas test tour.Cook told to cricbuzz “ all of Us will play Lifetime innings’s in the third Test”

Good Luck


it actually is a trend that touring australia comes with massive scrutiny, Windies got called useless, Sri Lanka got called useless, now England :lol:

Thing is Australia at home look like world beaters then suck themselves away.
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Verity » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:18 am

Boycs wrote:Cookie is having to go to the media to eject claims that he’s going to retire.

In form or out of form he’s still the same unexcitable vanilla custard


England have zero depth in the position so a bloke with Cooks record should get a free pass to play as long as he wants.
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Verity » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:39 am

Just look at all the openers that have come and gone and Cooks always stood firm, blokes a legend.
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:11 am

Cookie is due for a big one and the WACA may just be it. Sorry now I did not have him in my IHAG.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:12 am

His Dad and Grandad played for Zimbabwe. His dad was at Northhants England where his brothers were born and his dad was playing there before his birth.
Played Under 19s for Natal.. no youth cricket for England..so he is taking the place of a home grown cricketer for mine.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:39 am

Verity wrote:
Yorkshire wrote:I feel so sorry for English cricket team in Australia,I am so upset about certain former cricketer passed comments for star English player.i am sure Cook will bounce back into form

This is very much trend now, visiting team not doing good in overseas test tour.Cook told to cricbuzz “ all of Us will play Lifetime innings’s in the third Test”

Good Luck


it actually is a trend that touring australia comes with massive scrutiny, Windies got called useless, Sri Lanka got called useless, now England :lol:

Thing is Australia at home look like world beaters then suck themselves away.


England started this trend around 2005. Whenever an Aussie team tours England for an Ashes series there is an intense media campaign to destabilize the touring party (and captain).

CA and the Aussie media have caught on to this tactic and have used to against England over the past two tours here.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Paddles » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:45 am

baggygreenmania wrote:His Dad and Grandad played for Zimbabwe. His dad was at Northhants England where his brothers were born and his dad was playing there before his birth.
Played Under 19s for Natal.. no youth cricket for England..so he is taking the place of a home grown cricketer for mine.


Given the high national salaries, and 18 professional counties, plus 2nd teams and professional leagues, I'm not surprised that many school kids like Curran at 17 moved there and why Ben Stokes stayed after his parents returned to NZ or Caddick immediately migrating there after finishing school.

English pro cricketers have comparatively little to complain about, and English cricket provides a far better and broader career opportunity for all talented WI, SA, Zim, NZ, Pak and SL players. Even a fair option for those struggling to get beyond grade cricket in Australia.
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Boycs » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:49 am

Verity wrote:
Boycs wrote:Cookie is having to go to the media to eject claims that he’s going to retire.

In form or out of form he’s still the same unexcitable vanilla custard


England have zero depth in the position so a bloke with Cooks record should get a free pass to play as long as he wants.


It’s true but it doesn’t mean he’s not a boring bloke

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Yorkshire » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:11 am

Boycs wrote:
Verity wrote:
England have zero depth in the position so a bloke with Cooks record should get a free pass to play as long as he wants.


It’s true but it doesn’t mean he’s not a boring bloke

I have respect with cook, he still have same hunger of getting runs everywhere but he is going through purple patch, its happen to all great player.

I am afraid he will destroy Indian attacks in July 2018.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Paddles » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:39 am

Yorkshire wrote:
Boycs wrote:
It’s true but it doesn’t mean he’s not a boring bloke

I have respect with cook, he still have same hunger of getting runs everywhere but he is going through purple patch, its happen to all great player.

I am afraid he will destroy Indian attacks in July 2018.


A lean patch is when a good batsman isn't scoring a lot.

A purple patch is when a batsman is scoring a lot.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Yorkshire » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:44 am

Paddles,
I am new in this forum, you are senior to me,I am Not impress with your comments.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Boycs » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:09 pm

Yorkshire wrote:Paddles,
I am new in this forum, you are senior to me,I am Not impress with your comments.



You have been here longer than paddles, using many different accounts. Your comment is hilarious

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Boycs » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:10 pm

Paddles wrote:
Yorkshire wrote:I have respect with cook, he still have same hunger of getting runs everywhere but he is going through purple patch, its happen to all great player.

I am afraid he will destroy Indian attacks in July 2018.


A lean patch is when a good batsman isn't scoring a lot.

A purple patch is when a batsman is scoring a lot.

Idioms are best avoided when learning fluency in a language.



You can have a lean purple steak though, well.... a lean pink steak at least.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Yorkshire » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:31 pm

Katto

Last test at waca because Australia will not use Perth no longer vs test series of 2018

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:36 am

All the late talk is a for another flat WACA deck.

Bloody hell no.. would think for the very last elite test for this iconic ground that the curator would prepare a traditional fast, bouncy affair tailor made for the quicker Aussie pacemen. If he was still playing I know what deck Dennis Lillee would be pumping for to see out his beloved WACA as an elite Test venue.

C'mon you Baggy Greens wrap up the Ashes. :popcorn:

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:52 am


This is not good news for the WACA's last major match.


Ashes Test overshadowed by 'spot-fixing' claim writes Cricinfo:

The build-up to the crucial third Ashes Test at the WACA has been overshadowed by claims that the match has been targeted by spot-fixers, who are purported to have offered a newspaper details of rigged periods of play.

According to a report in The Sun, two men asked the newspaper's undercover reporters for up to 140,000 to "spot fix" markets, such as the exact amount of runs scored in an over. No individual players on either team were singled out in the report.

An ICC spokesman told the newspaper: "These are serious allegations and of grave concern. Our anti-corruption unit will continue working to uphold integrity in cricket focusing on education, prevention and disruption of any attempts to corrupt, including in relation to the third Test in Australia."

This is not good news for the WACA's last major match.
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Verity » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:53 am

whos Pietersen to say Cook doesnt look interested? lol hr was the biggest waste of space in the field himself, he often looked uninterested.
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:58 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
This is not good news for the WACA's last major match.


Ashes Test overshadowed by 'spot-fixing' claim writes Cricinfo:

The build-up to the crucial third Ashes Test at the WACA has been overshadowed by claims that the match has been targeted by spot-fixers, who are purported to have offered a newspaper details of rigged periods of play.

According to a report in The Sun, two men asked the newspaper's undercover reporters for up to 140,000 to "spot fix" markets, such as the exact amount of runs scored in an over. No individual players on either team were singled out in the report.

An ICC spokesman told the newspaper: "These are serious allegations and of grave concern. Our anti-corruption unit will continue working to uphold integrity in cricket focusing on education, prevention and disruption of any attempts to corrupt, including in relation to the third Test in Australia."

This is not good news for the WACA's last major match.


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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:58 am

Verity wrote:whos Pietersen to say Cook doesnt look interested? lol hr was the biggest waste of space in the field himself, he often looked uninterested.
I am tipping Cookie to have a big 150th.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:00 am

Yorkshire wrote:Paddles,
I am new in this forum, you are senior to me,I am Not impress with your comments.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:53 am

English media are clinging to the faint hope that match fixing can provide an excuse for their poor showing in this series.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:29 am

No excuse for the Poms as they have won all three tosses now. What is it with Aussie skippers and their poor toss calling. Michael Clarke was the same.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:52 am

:dance: Full tactics pays off as starc get one on the money. Baggies are away.
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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby bolero » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:17 am

Katto wrote:English media are clinging to the faint hope that match fixing can provide an excuse for their poor showing in this series.


When.you lose,there have to be excuses.

I would like the England team to.fight and not give up tamely.

Cook has been overcooked this series.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:37 am

Winning the toss gives them that chance. Are they good enuff to take advantage. Aussies overpitching in that first session to induce driving. I saw two balls swing and not one move off the seam from the opening bowlers. Hazlewood had Stoneman in all sorts with the short ball. Two fell a metre short of gully.. why did he not shorten the gully?

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:37 am

I hope M.Marsh at #6 is only temporary for this match on a road pitch as he's not a #6 in any way shape or form.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:16 am

Lyon bowling first session at the WACA is a panic move by Smith.
Should get Mitch Marsh into the attack before Lyon. It's his home ground and it provides a variety they haven't seen yet.

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Re: The Ashes (Australia vs England): 3rd Test; Dec 14-18, 2017 at Perth

Postby Katto » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:28 am

Hazlewood on fire