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The Ashes 2017-18: 2nd Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:08 am
by Yorkshire
9am starts IST day night tests
:mrgreen:

Australia Squads/Players
Glenn Maxwell, Steven Smith, David Warner, Cameron Bancroft, Usman Khawaja, Peter Handscomb, Shaun Marsh, Tim Paine, Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins, Nathan Lyon, Josh Hazlewood, Jackson Bird, Chadd Sayers,


England Squads/Players
Alastair Cook, Mark Stoneman, Joe Root, Dawid Malan, Gary Ballance, James Vince, Moeen Ali, Mason Crane, Ben Foakes, Jonny Bairstow, Chris Woakes, Stuart Broad, James Anderson, Jake Ball, Craig Overton, Tom Curran,

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:14 am
by Mick180461
Yorkshire wrote:9am starts IST day night tests
:mrgreen:

Australia Squads/Players
Glenn Maxwell, Steven Smith, David Warner, Cameron Bancroft, Usman Khawaja, Peter Handscomb, Shaun Marsh, Tim Paine, Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins, Nathan Lyon, Josh Hazlewood, Jackson Bird, Chadd Sayers,


England Squads/Players
Alastair Cook, Mark Stoneman, Joe Root, Dawid Malan, Gary Ballance, James Vince, Moeen Ali, Mason Crane, Ben Foakes, Jonny Bairstow, Chris Woakes, Stuart Broad, James Anderson, Jake Ball, Craig Overton, Tom Curran,

Where did you get the Australian squad from?, not that I'm disagreeing. Maxwell only as cover for any injuries but other than that some 13 for Adelaide

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:32 am
by Yorkshire
maxi was release for Victoria-NSW game in which he hits epic 278 bats at 3.yes you are right but cricbuzz.com announces team for first two tests same as above.

Updated later on anyway.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:35 am
by Yorkshire
Selectors of ECB looking for the progress of mark wood who is playing 3 day game for England Lion vs Queensland.i remembered mark took the wickets of Warner/smith in the past.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:56 am
by Verity
Root needs the sack, only seen him skipper 1 Test but its enough to show his shit. 170 runs on the board he didnt attempt to attack once, absolute shithouse.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:02 am
by Yorkshire
He is captain,you not sack smith if Australia dismiss for 235 from 209 for 7

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:15 am
by Verity
yea a shit captain; blokes clueless.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:29 am
by Katto
England attack really falls away after Anderson/Broad.
I think they have a stronger batting line up, but the bowling will be the deciding factor in this series.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 4:35 am
by Leo
Still I cannot depend on Australia to play on sided. England just need to concentrate a bit. It is possible.

So, Good Luck to both the teams.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:08 am
by Loose halo
Bancroft said in answer post match to a query from Slater that he wouldn't like to be facing our pace trio under lights.

Smith said a few days before game one facing them in the nets was a trial.

They seem to be nearing their peak and regard themselves as a pack.

Stoinis is similar to Watson as a much needed allrounder and must be close to selection.

Handscome may be on notice I reckon he is lacking in defence.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:17 am
by Katto
Stoinis needs to make runs at Shield level first.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:41 pm
by Yorkshire
Katto wrote:Stoinis needs to make runs at Shield level first.

No way he can fit presently at in the team of 11

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:16 pm
by Paddles
So most England pundits suspect Jake Ball is no certainty for the next test.

The safest swap is with Overton, who typically a better bat and bowling in form, has batted 3 innings this tour and made 3 ducks.

KP wants a gamble on Mason Crane.

And Foakes or Ballance are outside selection options.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:21 pm
by Paddles
Katto wrote:Stoinis needs to make runs at Shield level first.


As a general caveat, this makes sense - but Stoinis has been pretty impressive for Straya in ODI cricket away this year with the bat and made runs back home in Shield in previous years.

If the team wants an a/r - he isn't the poorest batting option to try imo. I would be more concerned by his lack of FC wickets if he is to play a large bowling role.

But does Australia and Smithy really want an a/r or 6 batsmen? If Lyon is as good 1st innings bowl option as any a/r - he can bowl big overs no problem.

Last test day 1 - he bowled 24 overs for 40 runs. Thats excellent holding. Plus he looked likely for a wicket at times.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:47 pm
by Mick180461
Loose halo wrote:Bancroft said in answer post match to a query from Slater that he wouldn't like to be facing our pace trio under lights.

Smith said a few days before game one facing them in the nets was a trial.

They seem to be nearing their peak and regard themselves as a pack.

Stoinis is similar to Watson as a much needed allrounder and must be close to selection.

Handscome may be on notice I reckon he is lacking in defence.

Stoinis is nowhere near the Test side, this summer in 2 Shield Matches he has scored 63 runs @21.00 and bowled 9 overs for 0/20.
His move back to WA looks to be a mistake. To be honest there is no one who can do the job of 5th bowler other than Maxwell, really having a decent season, Stoinis & Henriques are having very poor seasons, Marsh can't bowl at present due to a injury, Wildermurth while going very well with the ball is not scoring enough runs, Head and Cartwright are having mediocre seasons at best.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:48 am
by Loose halo
The selectors have shown their hand by using Maxwell as cover for Marsh/Warner when they were carrying niggles.

They won't drop anyone from a winning side in any case.

We want a number 6 batsman who can bowl and if Handscom fails again Maxi will be the current choice.

Can he bowl well enough you say to give the quicks a rest though you could argue they are travelling well enough ATM.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:08 am
by Boycs
If they play mason crane I will cry into my cereal and Australia as a nation will laugh at us

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:55 pm
by raja
Brisbane got away but England were good enough to have won it.
Anyway, they'll make amends at Adelaide - and then go on to win the series 4-1.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:12 pm
by Yorkshire
Momentum toward Australia now,cricket guru belives Cummins/Hazelwood generate more pace on Adelaide track at night, england good enough to win some test but not 4/1 for sure because their batting lacks Potential to drag the proceedings on day 5

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:15 pm
by Yorkshire
Boycs wrote:If they play mason crane I will cry into my cereal and Australia as a nation will laugh at us


Westley in Australia they should add extra batsman because Crane might succesful or not because of in-expierance

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:15 pm
by Boycs
I’m not working day one so hopefully can catch some TMS in the morning.

If they want to take out Jake Ball for Overton then fair enough but I wouldn’t otherwise mess with the team so much. Just go out their and do your best.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:32 am
by Yorkshire
Westley to return to uk today because of injury to his middle finger, while playing for ENG LION vs Queensland.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:59 am
by Loose halo
raja wrote:Brisbane got away but England were good enough to have won it.
Anyway, they'll make amends at Adelaide - and then go on to win the series 4-1.




Nice Wum Raj.

England are currently Eight dollars to win the series any which way let alone 4/1. ;)

Lemme see yup 67.00 England 4/1

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:43 am
by Boycs
Maybe raja could pad up and go out there to bolster our middle order

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:15 am
by Paddles
Loose halo wrote:
raja wrote:Brisbane got away but England were good enough to have won it.
Anyway, they'll make amends at Adelaide - and then go on to win the series 4-1.




Nice Wum Raj.

England are currently Eight dollars to win the series any which way let alone 4/1. ;)

Lemme see yup 67.00 England 4/1


That's not even close to value :lmao:

Lillee and Marsh got 500/1 just on England to win Botham's test in 81 :grin:

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:18 am
by Loose halo
Boycs wrote:Maybe raja could pad up and go out there to bolster our middle order


Not a bad choice Raja often posted a wordy century on this forum in the good old days.

He is a better wordsmith than most when he gets his eye in. :cool:

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:03 am
by Paddles
Loose halo wrote:
Boycs wrote:Maybe raja could pad up and go out there to bolster our middle order


Not a bad choice Raja often posted a wordy century on this forum in the good old days.

He is a better wordsmith than most when he gets his eye in. :cool:


The closest if not actual wordsmith I've encountered here was striped lungi. Yes I know he fooled around and talked a lot of crap, displaying cricket was rarely his forte, but he did so while utilising and demonstrating a vast vocabulary with excellent use thereof (as well as an impressive general knowledge). His command of the English language would put most if not almost all native speakers to shame.

The word you're looking for to describe raja is presumably raconteur.

There's a difference between the two. One is skilled with words themselves, one is skilled at telling (cricket) anecdotes.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:24 am
by Loose halo
Wordsmith was the metaphorical choice using words as in accumulating runs. Raconteur did not fit.

Boycs was after Raja to bolster the middle order.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:29 am
by Paddles
Loose halo wrote:Wordsmith was the metaphorical choice using words as in accumulating runs. Raconteur did not fit.

Boycs was after Raja to bolster the middle order.


A raconteur accumulates stories to tell. It fits your attempted metaphor.

A wordsmith on the other hand is not 'wordy'.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:30 am
by Boycs
Another term could be oleaginous cirripedia :confused:

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:36 am
by Paddles
Boycs wrote:Another term could be oleaginous cirripedia :confused:


Interesting, but Lungi wouldn 't have left ambiguity to his meaning :P

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:24 pm
by bolero
How many of you guys know that Striped Lungi is the inspiration for creating this forum ? Boycs (SGGH will know.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:30 pm
by Paddles
bolero wrote:How many of you guys know that Striped Lungi is the inspiration for creating this forum ? Boycs (SGGH will know.


The forum outside match and selection threads is poorer without him.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:55 pm
by bolero
Paddles wrote:
bolero wrote:How many of you guys know that Striped Lungi is the inspiration for creating this forum ? Boycs (SGGH will know.


The forum outside match and selection threads is poorer without him.


Absolutely. Striped Lungi, Asterix, Going South, Squarecut, Shalini (me too) are founder members. Raja joined in immediately after the forum was created alongwith Ankur. Oldtimer, Scud , ITG and Bharath.

Most of the forum's development (hard work put in) is because of Striped Lungi, Going South, Asterix and Ankur.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:36 pm
by Loose halo
Paddles wrote:
Loose halo wrote:Wordsmith was the metaphorical choice using words as in accumulating runs. Raconteur did not fit.

Boycs was after Raja to bolster the middle order.


A raconteur accumulates stories to tell. It fits your attempted metaphor.



A wordsmith on the other hand is not 'wordy'.



We all know what a Raconteur is and does besides it was my metaphor :grin:


word·smith


/ˈwərdˌsmiTH/


noun

1.
a skilled user of words.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:41 pm
by Paddles
Loose halo wrote:
Paddles wrote:
A raconteur accumulates stories to tell. It fits your attempted metaphor.



A wordsmith on the other hand is not 'wordy'.



We all know what a Raconteur is and does besides it was my metaphor :grin:


word·smith


/ˈwərdˌsmiTH/


noun

1.
a skilled user of words.



wordy
ADJECTIVE

1 Using or expressed in rather too many words.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:52 am
by Boycs
Paddles wrote:
bolero wrote:How many of you guys know that Striped Lungi is the inspiration for creating this forum ? Boycs (SGGH will know.


The forum outside match and selection threads is poorer without him.


I was horrified the other week when I noticed how long ago I joined this forum. (Edit: oh my god SEVEN YEARS!)

I remember the names you put in your other post, and used to converse regularly with lungi via PM I believe he’s the only one here who ever knew my first name and vice versa.

Underneath his lunacy he always seems a real nice bloke.

Of course everyone is nice here :P apart from misty

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:24 am
by squarecut
I joined this forum in may 2005. 12 years have passed. :)

During these 12 years period, I have met Raja and Asterix in 2010. I have stayed within 150 km of Striped Lungi for some three years (without meeting him).

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:43 am
by Boycs
I don't actually know if anyone else here is actually in the UK. You're all in the states or India or in Middle Earth (Paddles)

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:54 am
by Paddles
Boycs wrote:I don't actually know if anyone else here is actually in the UK. You're all in the states or India or in Middle Earth (Paddles)


There's some West Islander's too.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:28 am
by bolero
Boycs wrote:I don't actually know if anyone else here is actually in the UK. You're all in the states or India or in Middle Earth (Paddles)


Asterix was always in UK. He had been in India for some time but currently in UK, I believe.

You know Asterix, right ?

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:29 am
by bolero
squarecut wrote:I joined this forum in may 2005. 12 years have passed. :)

During these 12 years period, I have met Raja and Asterix in 2010. I have stayed within 150 km of Striped Lungi for some three years (without meeting him).


I met Striped Lungi once. Couldnt meet any of my other online friends.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:37 am
by Katto
Weather forecast is not good for this one.
Shame for all those who bought tickets.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:41 am
by bolero
Katto wrote:Weather forecast is not good for this one.
Shame for all those who bought tickets.


Raining is ruining matches all over shame. Eden Gardens, 1st 2 days mostly washed off, robbed the game of a result.

1st Test Ashes also affected by rain, but luckily could be completed.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:42 am
by Loose halo
Boycs wrote:I don't actually know if anyone else here is actually in the UK. You're all in the states or India or in Middle Earth (Paddles)

Ted Ward a fine raconteur from England made a brief reappearance recently. :grin:

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:53 am
by Loose halo
Remember the old forum? I had another handle then.

Bolero, Raja, SuperGLS.Ankur, I could go on were here then and others like Shorty are gone.
Shorty PM'd me about joining another forum but it was pretty average.

Been away myself nice to be back.

Maybe Ted Ward will write a few of his stories for us again.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:23 am
by bolero
Loose halo wrote:Remember the old forum? I had another handle then.

Bolero, Raja, SuperGLS.Ankur, I could go on were here then and others like Shorty are gone.
Shorty PM'd me about joining another forum but it was pretty average.

Been away myself nice to be back.

Maybe Ted Ward will write a few of his stories for us again.


Yeah, yeah. What was your ID then ? Roy ?

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:45 am
by squarecut
Andrew Hughes, who went on to become a celebrated columnist in cricinfo, was a member of this forum back then.

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:59 am
by Yorkshire
bolero wrote:
Boycs wrote:I don't actually know if anyone else here is actually in the UK. You're all in the states or India or in Middle Earth (Paddles)


Asterix was always in UK. He had been in India for some time but currently in UK, I believe.

You know Asterix, right ?

He is in India

Re: Australia vs England 2nd Ashes Test (D/N) : Dec 2-6,2017 at Adelaide

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:04 pm
by squarecut
Yorkshire wrote:He is in India

Do you have to comment on topics you know nothing about ?