WI tour Of NZ:01/12/17 - 03/01/18 (2 tests,3 ODI, 3 T20I)

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Postby Yorkshire » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:18 pm

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West Indies tour of New Zealand, 2017-18

DEC 1-5,2017
1st Test at Basin Reserve, Wellington
03:30 IST / 22:00 GMT


DEC 9-13,2017
2nd Test at Seddon Park, Hamilton
03:30 IST / 22:00 GMT





DEC 20, 1st ODI at Cobham Oval (New) , Whangarei
03:30 IST / 22:00 GMT

DEC 23, 2nd ODI at Hagley Oval, Christchurch
03:30 IST / 22:00 GMT

DEC 26,3rd ODI at Hagley Oval, Christchurch
03:30 IST / 22:00 GMT



DEC 29, 1st T20I at Saxton Oval, Nelson
07:30 IST / 02:00 GMT

JAN 01,2nd T20I at Bay Oval, Mount Maunganui
11:30 IST / 06:00 GMT

JAN 03,3rd T20I at Bay Oval, Mount Maunganui
11:30 IST / 06:00 GMT




WEST INDIES TOUR OF NEW ZEALAND, 2017-2018


Windies tests Squads/Players
Jason Holder, Kraigg Brathwaite, Sunil Ambris, Devendra Bishoo, Jermaine Blackwood, Roston Chase, Miguel Cummins, Shane Dowrich, Shannon Gabriel, Shimron Hetmyer, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Kieran Powell, Raymon Reifer, Kemar Roach,



New Zealand tests Squads/Players
Kane Williamson, Tom Latham, Jeet Raval, Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, BJ Watling, Mitchell Santner, Colin de Grandhomme, Tim Southee, Neil Wagner, Trent Boult, Matt Henry, Ferguson, Blundell (wicket keeper)
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Boycs » Wed Nov 22, 2017 10:34 pm

Right in there for a brand new poster aren’t you misty?

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:00 am

BJ watling returns after long time

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:54 am

Yorkshire wrote:BJ watling returns after long time


Whatchu talking 'bout Misty?

Watling aint missed no tests dawg. He OG. NZC just ain't played no tests in a while.

Don't hate the lack of player, hate the lack of games.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:09 am

Latham was keeper for a while,i need to Dbl check who was keeper in India, when India trash Kiwis 3/0 early 2017, I guess.(tests)

I never hate no player.I wish mark Nicholls keep available for selection no matter how he performs.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:22 am

Yorkshire wrote:Latham was keeper for a while,i need to Dbl check who was keeper in India, when India trash Kiwis 3/0 early 2017, I guess.(tests)

I never hate no player.I wish mark Nicholls keep available for selection no matter how he performs.


Latham aint kept in Indian tests and NZ no test tour India in early 2017. Watchu talkin' bout Misty?

The 2016 series you are prolly thinking of, NZ even had Ronchi in the side. Latham was way away from the gloves at that stage.

Latham has never gone into a test as the designated keeper, though he did do some glove work in 1st test in England 2015 when Watling was injured. Ronchi played the second test and Watling played as a specialist bat.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:36 am

2016 probably 3/0

BJWatling was Keeper, I doubt he keep wicket on dec1 st
Blundell should take over after warm up game
Wellington is his home Ground

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:51 am

Watling ruled unfit to keep. Blundell called up as keeper, Watling could yet play as a bat. Choice between him and Niccolls (or possibly CDG but unlikely).
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Nov 24, 2017 4:54 am

Warm up game

Windies Squads/Players
Jason Holder, Kraigg Brathwaite, Sunil Ambris, Devendra Bishoo, Jermaine Blackwood, Roston Chase, Miguel Cummins, Shane Dowrich, Shannon Gabriel, Shimron Hetmyer, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Kieran Powell, Raymon Reifer, Kemar Roach,


New Zealand A Squads/Players
Martin Guptill, Jeet Raval, George Worker, Neil Broom, Colin Munro, Tom Bruce, Tom Blundell, Todd Astle, Scott Kuggeleijn, Adam Milne, Lockie Ferguson,

Westindies 45 for 3 vs NZ A
http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1795 ... nz-2017-18

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:38 am

Yorkshire wrote:Warm up game

Windies Squads/Players
Jason Holder, Kraigg Brathwaite, Sunil Ambris, Devendra Bishoo, Jermaine Blackwood, Roston Chase, Miguel Cummins, Shane Dowrich, Shannon Gabriel, Shimron Hetmyer, Shai Hope, Alzarri Joseph, Kieran Powell, Raymon Reifer, Kemar Roach,


New Zealand A Squads/Players
Martin Guptill, Jeet Raval, George Worker, Neil Broom, Colin Munro, Tom Bruce, Tom Blundell, Todd Astle, Scott Kuggeleijn, Adam Milne, Lockie Ferguson,

Westindies's Hope / Chase & SunIL Amris gave good Fight

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1795 ... A-vs-West-
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Sunil Amris smashed 153 and Ferguson took 5 fer century by Shai Hope too

451 for 9 in 90 overs such a incredible score from 46 for 3 at one stage

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:12 pm

WI used 8 bowlers and all of them among wickets only Bruce 46 and T.Astle 68 among runs
NZ A were bowled out under 240.Kraig Braithwaite 33 not out in second innings.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Sun Nov 26, 2017 11:46 pm

Ferguson and Blundell replaces in the newzeland test team
http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/98 ... dies-tests

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby raja » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:14 am

These two teams don't seem to play each other much - would be nice to have had a 3-Test series, instead of just 2 games.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing a double hundred from Raval.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby bolero » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:18 am

3 players of Indian origin from the 2 sides

West Indies - Sunil Ambris, Devendra Bishoo
New Zealand - Jeet Raval

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:22 am

raja wrote:These two teams don't seem to play each other much - would be nice to have had a 3-Test series, instead of just 2 games.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing a double hundred from Raval.


Don't tease me nor jinx Raval. I'll sing and dance in the street if Jeets dbl tons up :)

WI was here not long ago in 2013/14 - when Corey Anderson got the fastest odi 100 at that time from Afridi.

Gabriel is a good bowler, Roach historically much better, Hope, Chase and Holder are good bats, but if NZ struggle against WI then NZ is on the decline. This should be easy test series win for NZ - anything less is a huge disapointment for NZ fans even with NZ having a weak 5 to 8 batting order; or a groundsman answering questions about why the pitch was too green in making the game a shootout.

Whiteball is where WI have threats. So NZC fans care less about WI for 3 tests than England who ought and we want to be playing 3 here. India is overdue for a tour.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:54 am

raja wrote:These two teams don't seem to play each other much - would be nice to have had a 3-Test series, instead of just 2 games.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing a double hundred from Raval.


He was out for 1 and involved in 72* run stands in a warm up vs WI's 4 fast bowler, but I think his capacity is either 55 or 80 : no more than that.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:56 am

If you lived in India or Sub-Continent, you get chance to see Live tests (2) on NEO SPORTS, they bought Rights for NZ cricket for next 10 years, probably, Sky sports showing live in UK.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:02 am

Yorkshire wrote:
raja wrote:These two teams don't seem to play each other much - would be nice to have had a 3-Test series, instead of just 2 games.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing a double hundred from Raval.


He was out for 1 and involved in 72* run stands in a warm up vs WI's 4 fast bowler, but I think his capacity is either 55 or 80 : no more than that.


What?????

Hamish Rutherford has a test century.

Harbhijan Sing has 2 test 100s. Guptil has 3.

Wasim Akram has a dbl hundred. So does Jason Gillespie.

Brendon McCullum and Chris Gayle have tripple hundreds.

How on earth can you justify this comment?
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Postby Paddles » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:43 pm

Hopefully having children to support makes Tim bowl better.

That paper may wanna confirm from sources it is Tim's first child too.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby squarecut » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:23 pm

Paddles wrote:
What?????

Hamish Rutherford has a test century.

Harbhijan Sing has 2 test 100s. Guptil has 3.

Wasim Akram has a dbl hundred. So does Jason Gillespie.

Brendon McCullum and Chris Gayle have tripple hundreds.

How on earth can you justify this comment?


Ajit Agarkar has a test century at Lords. :nana:

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Postby bolero » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:02 pm

Yup, Agarkar the man with the golden duck.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:09 pm

squarecut wrote:
Paddles wrote:
What?????

Hamish Rutherford has a test century.

Harbhijan Sing has 2 test 100s. Guptil has 3.

Wasim Akram has a dbl hundred. So does Jason Gillespie.

Brendon McCullum and Chris Gayle have tripple hundreds.

How on earth can you justify this comment?


Ajit Agarkar has a test century at Lords. :nana:


I raise you with Jerome Taylor's test century in NZ :dance:

It won't be easy to beat Jerome.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:42 pm

http://m.cricbuzz.com/cricket-commentar ... nd-2017-18

Resurgent Windies aim to end 22-year wait

The Windies camp will hope for Shai Hope to make an impact in the series

Take Zimbabwe and Bangladesh out of the equation, Windies haven't won an away Test series since clinching one in New Zealand in 1995. The win came as a result of their success at the Basin Reserve in Wellington, where they hammered the hosts by an innings and 322 runs. More than 22 years later, they step into the same venue, with a side that is far less intimidating but with a renewed hope injected following some recent results.


Going through a prolonged period of poor form especially in Tests, Windies defied the odds to stun England in a Test earlier this year to boost their confidence and they followed it up with a series win in Zimbabwe. Shai Hope's turnaround is the biggest takeaway for the Windies from this brief period and if the youngster can showcase the same form that held his side's batting together in England, then New Zealand will have their task cut out. He has already begun the tour in fine fashion by cracking a century in the warm-up fixture.

Windies will also be buoyed after witnessing some pyrotechnics from the bat of Sunil Ambris. The wicketkeeper-batsman was drafted into the squad in place of Kyle Hope, who had looked out of sorts with the bat. Ambris smashed 153 off just 145 balls in the warm-up game and the fact that he did it against a strong New Zealand A outfit would give him plenty of confidence before facing the likes of Trent Boult and Neil Wagner.

Question marks still surround over the make up of the bowling attack though as their pacers will be expected to come to the fore on a surface that looked very green earlier in the week. The series in Zimbabwe was played on slow surfaces where their spinners did most of the damage but the roles will have to be reversed here. But considering the fact that New Zealand haven't played a Test match in over eight months, the Windies seamers can take advantage of any visible rustiness in the hosts' batting lineup. Kane Williamson will once again be the key alongside Ross Taylor, who had a terrific series the last time the same side toured four years ago.

New Zealand will also have to contend with a couple of absentees to begin their home season. Regular wicketkeeper BJ Watling is out of the game and that presents an opportunity to newcomer Tom Blundell. In the pace department, Mark Henry will get a crack in the absence of Tim Southee. The Williamson-led side will be looking to give a good account of themselves as tougher challenges await them this home season with England set to tour later.

When: New Zealand vs Windies, 1st Test,December 1-5,11:00 AM local time,3:30 AM IST

Where: Basin Reserve, Wellington

What to expect: Chilly weather is expected throughout the course of the Test match. The wicket looked completely green earlier in the week and is likely to aid the seamers given the history of the venue.

Team News:

New Zealand

Having played only one T20I for New Zealand, Tom Blundell is all set to make his Test debut after an injury ruled out BJ Watling. With Southee expecting the birth of his child, the think-tank have opted to play Mark Henry ahead of Lockie Ferguson as their playing XI was announced one day prior to the game.

Playing XI: Tom Latham, Jeet Raval, Kane Williamson (c), Ross Taylor, Henry Nicholls, Tom Blundell (WK), Mitchell Santner, Colin de Grandhomme, Matt Henry, Neil Wagner, Trent Bolt, Worker.

Windies

The visitors are expected to hand a debut to Ambris, who impressed in the warm-up game earlier. He has featured in a solitary ODI prior to this. Considering they are making the switch from spin-friendly wickets to tracks that assist seamers, Windies' bowling combination is likely to change.

Did you know:

Windies played with the same XI in their last four Tests - only once they have had a longer run with an unchanged XI (five Tests against Australia in 1990-91 at home). However, with Kyle Hope missing out, they will be making a forced change.

Ross Taylor averages 62.35 against Windies. In five Tests played at home, he averages 112 against them. However, in the five away Tests, his average drops to 34.77.

Kane Williamson needs one more hundred to go past Martin Crowe's 17 as New Zealand's leading century maker in Tests.

What they said:

There's always bounce for all bowlers so spinners get a bit out of it, seamers get a bit out of it. And as batters there's always value for your shots because there's a fast outfield and good pace in the surface." - Kane Williamson, New Zealand captain

We're in a pretty good place at this point in time. We've built up quite nicely this past year. We're still not the finished product, but we're heading in the right direction." - Jason Holder, Windies captain



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Postby Yorkshire » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:50 pm

raja wrote:These two teams don't seem to play each other much - would be nice to have had a 3-Test series, instead of just 2 games.
Anyway, looking forward to seeing a double hundred from Raval.

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Postby Boycs » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:44 pm

NZ win the toss and field first. WI 17/0

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:11 am

Typical green Basin wicket - flat as a road on day 1 for the Kookaburra ball.

No swing for Boult, CDG got one ball only to nibble.

Henry got 1 edge but really looks inmocuous. Down on pace and lacking many questions for the batsmen.

NZ ahead at lunch once again due to a 1st session 1st innings display of Wagnerline. When there's no swing, spin or seam - he is the focal point of NZ's attack.

Raval took a smart catch at 3rd slip catching a poppedup ball that was dropping short of 2nd slip off Boult bowling short.

All 3 first innings wickets to short stuff - payback for Croft, Roberts, Holding and Garner.

Ferguson at 150km/h offers an inswinger and apparently a good short attack (accrdng to commentators) -Henry seems to offer neither as much.
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Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:21 am

Youngster of WI should learn how to Nagotiates short pitch bowling

58 for 0
75 for 3 at Lunch

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Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:28 am

Yorkshire wrote:Youngster of WI should learn how to Nagotiates short pitch bowling

58 for 0
75 for 3 at Lunch


Wagner is very accurate when he does this - he is slower than most who bouncerathon - but he caused Aussie problems 2 years ago and their batsmen with South Africas are probably the most used to playing short pitched barrage bounce attacks. Wagner's peak pace pitching up first spell first day is 140 - he bouncerathons at 130 to 134.

Wagner is a short man - and he gets a lot of deliveries at arm pit height and under -its not just duck ya head under at head height.

[Edit] Claims are Wagner is 5'10". I think he may be getting an inch here but this is shorter than most fast intl bowlers around.
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Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:53 am

80 for 5
Hope and Amris ( hit wicket) out cheaply off Wagner who now took 134 test wickets in 33 tests beating CHETFIELD and Cairns L.

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Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:08 am

Wagner's having a great day out. WI collapsing.

4 wickets for Wags - all short pitched.

WI 80/5.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:11 am

Has there ever been a better bowler of 135kph/80mph bouncers than Neil Wagner, the secret is the pinpoint accuracy he bowls them at with a skidding action. Making a very good career now with a different way of going about it.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:18 am

Mick180461 wrote:Has there ever been a better bowler of 135kph/80mph bouncers than Neil Wagner, the secret is the pinpoint accuracy he bowls them at with a skidding action. Making a very good career now with a different way of going about it.


He's got his tail up and increased his pace now - 138 :lmao: But his best ball last over was prolly the 135.5 ball.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:30 am

Wagner 6 wickets - 1st 5 all short then a 1st ball bowled yorker to Holder.

WI 97/7
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:32 am

Paddles wrote:Wagner 6 wickets - 1st 5 all short then a 1st ball bowled yorker to Holder.

WI 97/7


118 for 9
Wagner Equal is 6 for 41 at Bulawayo spell, with 6 wickets haul here.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Yorkshire » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:46 am

Congratulation Neil Wagner : on hattrick twice today Number 11 bats 21 balls now atleast first (59) and last wicket show how to bats on easy wicket

Do you think Short pitch bowling by Holder and company bother to Latham/ Raval?


Congratulation Wagner for 7 wickets Haul his best in tests
WI 134 all out
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:55 am

Yorkshire wrote:Congratulation Neil Wagner : on hattrick twice today Number 11 bats 21 balls now atleast first (59) and last wicket show how to bats on easy wicket

Do you think Short pitch bowling by Holder and company bother to Latham/ Raval?


Latham is oft walking wicket early to bowlers who go full with the new ball if it swings, nips or Latham just reads the angled line wrong. He's a short man and agile as a keeper - he has no issues typically of pulling, negotiating, or getting away from the short ball. Tbh - I'd bowl length to full to him with the new ball.

Raval plays only a handful of shots but they include the cut and occaisional pull shot. I think he was trapped on the pull last year with a man deep but I suspect it was out of character for him and he was well set and seen new ball off before he went for it and took the field on. Raval against new ball typically tries to leave every ball he can unless its wide and heading for safe runs.

{edit] after looking comfortable on the pull shot, Latham pulls one that gets big on him and he spoons it up to mid wicket.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:03 am

7 wickets for Wags - a treat for me to watch. Well done Wags.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Mick180461 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:52 am

Unwanted history for Sunil Ambris the 1st player ever to be out hit wkt for a Golden Duck on debut.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:27 am

Bishop displaying he's done more homework on the NZ team players than some of NZ's own commentators.

I do not get the commentator love for Henry 1 ton Niccolls, esp when they want Santner and CDG to average more with the bat he does. I know his kid brother is the media man for NZC, but this level of love for a pretty (below) ordinary record is unusual - even in the lower comparative cricket standards of NZ.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby raja » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:40 am

Wagner is an under-rated bowler.
I got to see him bowl only when he toured India earlier this year (or was it last year?) with Williamson & co.
Was impressed - although he didn't pick up too many wickets, he looked dangerous.
I rate him and Santner.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby raja » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:03 am

Rawal on target for that double hundred. :-)

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:11 am

raja wrote:Rawal on target for that double hundred. :-)


Sometime day 4 at this rate but I'll take it happily :lmao:
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:16 am

raja wrote:Wagner is an under-rated bowler.
I got to see him bowl only when he toured India earlier this year (or was it last year?) with Williamson & co.
Was impressed - although he didn't pick up too many wickets, he looked dangerous.


Yeah he is underrated to a degree but his reputation is starting to spread due to his short tactics when he unleashes a barrage. Iirc he didn't do it in (extensively) India (or SA for that matter) and went for reverse swing. Always tries near his best effort and fit as heck with a big heart - and has a growing fan base that appreciate this.

The short pitch stuff makes him famous for something more in the cricket world than his rather eye fetching wife, who is said to put the WAG in Wagner.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:01 am

KW late cuts into the safe hands of a 2nd gully and is out for 1.

KW will curse himself - poor wide ball and he is normally a better shot chooser than that.

WI have clearly done homework on KW and have a plan for him, but I have seen KW adjust to a Steve Smith type leg side accumulation before when sides have removed his third man and behind point options.
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 5:34 am

Jeet Raval 29* (100) - he found his form :)
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby bolero » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:07 am

Congrats to Wagner. Paddles a great fan of him, I gather from his earlier comments.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:55 am

bolero wrote:Congrats to Wagner. Paddles a great fan of him, I gather from his earlier comments.


In the last 4 years alone, especially the past 2 and a bit, he's prolly already accumulated a record as NewZealand's best non-new ball seam bowler, and while not seriously challenging Joel Garner's career record yet, its not an easy feat to think of someone else in the world as a comparative peer non-new ball bowler clearly better with his success at the moment. Johnson was on fire in 2013/14 but fell away sharply in 2015 into retirement and sometimes still took the new ball in this period.

NZ's best seamer statistically for the past few seasons doesn't require the new ball to regularly snag bags of wickets - that is a luxury for any captain as well as selectors. He was dropped for too long in 2015 and 16. And perhaps it is only today that NZC confirmed what NZ fans long thought - his bouncerthon ought not be plan B or C - but much closer to plan A.

Looking at those who replaced him: Henry now averages over 50 with the ball (with several new ball opportunities) and Bracewell isn't even NZA standard. But Wagner is selected in ink for test matches now, well before Southee
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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby bolero » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:49 am

I have watched Wagner bowl. I think he toured India earlier. He is a good bowler.

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Re: Westindies Tour Of Newzeland:Dec 1st'17-Jan 3rd'18 ( 2 tests,3 Odi & 3 T20i)

Postby Paddles » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:27 pm

bolero wrote:I have watched Wagner bowl. I think he toured India earlier. He is a good bowler.


Indeed. Career Lefties after 20 tests min;

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_hand=2;bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=20;qualval1=matches;template=results;type=bowling
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