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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:44 am

Delhi leading by 101.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:20 am

Delhi lead by 89. 6 wickets in hand for Vidarbha. Delhi on top.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby raja » Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:20 pm

Yorkshire wrote:Wow 6 wickets again by Gurbani 4 Of 6 were Clen bowled
No wonder why Raja wants him for England Tour July 2018


Although he's not very young (not too old either), he reminds me of a young Manoj Prabhakar.
Prabhakar never did justice to his talent at Test level.
I remember him as a youngster, bowling in Ranji/Duleep Trophy.
Swung the ball both ways viciously - and was very accurate.
I remember a match - I think it was a Duleep Trophy final or semi-final against South Zone.
Azhar, then a young batting sensation (not yet made his Test debut) was cleaned up for a duck by an amazing Prabhakar inswinger.

Gurbani reminds me a bit of that Prabhakar. :grin:

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:13 pm

Gurbani is a qualified engineer.First class throughout.He took up cricket seriously only after completing his engineering.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby raja » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:51 am

This piece is about Pakistan but there is info about average first-innings scores this season in different first-class competitions around the world.
SA tops at 381, Ranji comes in second at 344, others are not too far behind.
So this notion that Ranji is a run-feast on flat wickets might be busted by this info.
There are a few batsmen who tend to get big scores but overall there's enough of a contest between bat and ball.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/ ... ld-batsmen

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby raja » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:08 am

237/5
Getting uncomfortable for Vidarbha now.
Still 58 behind - and they do have a long tail.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby raja » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:31 am

Vidarbha get the lead but need to stretch it as much as possible.
Like Misty says, it's a 5-day game, so need to avoid chasing a tricky target, should the situation arise.
Put Delhi as much out of the game now itself.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:08 am

Vidarbha leading by 91.

If they manage to take it to 150, Delhi will face a charged up Gurbani.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby raja » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:08 am

raja wrote:237/5
Getting uncomfortable for Vidarbha now.
Still 58 behind - and they do have a long tail.


Somebody pls award me a Nobel Prize for RJ. :grin:

Vidarbha now leading by 181.
476/7.
Wicketkeeper Wadkar is on 115.
Sarwate went for 79 after a 169-run partnership with Wadkar.
But now Neral is giving Wadkar good company in an 8th-wicket partnership.
Already 62 added.

Can't help feeling this is a pretty poor Delhi side.
Wonder how they reached the finals.
Not taking anything away at all from Vidarbha's performance, but I'm used to strong Delhi sides of the past. I remember in the late 70s, you'd have the Amarnath brothers, Madan Lal, Surinder Khanna, Kirti Azad and some other Test players. Compare that side with this side.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:06 am

Vidarbha leading by 221. We are witnessing a major upset here.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:12 am

This guy Kejroliya playing like his states CM Kejriwal.That send off was unnecessary . No mistake, Gurbani will come out firing when Delhi tries to save the test.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby squarecut » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:47 am

Vidarbha is playing with Mumbai like professionalism. They are systematically grounding Delhi down to dust. It is good to see Chandrakant Pandit (coach of Vidarbha) and Wasim Jaffer (former Mumbai batsmen), both originally Mumbai players, bringing Mumbai style khadoospan to Vidarbha team. That is what has enabled Vidarbha to do this well in this year's Ranji trophy.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:24 am

Vidarbha need 16 more to win. On the verge of creating history.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:32 am

Vidarbha are the Ranji champions. Take a bow.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby squarecut » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:37 am

Great achievement. Vidarbha played like a team possessed throughout the season and often came out of difficult situations in a few matches. Their fighting spirit and tenacity enabled them to lift the trophy the very first time then entered the final. Congratulations to all Vidarbha fans. I too am a Vidarbha fan as I have stayed at Nagpur for two years in the past.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:52 am

Congrats to Asterix, Squarecut and all other Vidarbha fans.

Sterling performance by Gurbani throughout the season but well supported by others.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby raja » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:52 am

Fantastic performance by Vidarbha - very happy for them.
First time they've made it to the Ranji final in all these years - and they go on and win it!

Total team performance - there are so many players who played a role in this trophy win.
Faiz Fazal the captain has been very good.
Ramaswamy has got lots of runs this season.
Jaffer, the old fox.
Gurbani has been superb, especially in the knock-out phase.
Wankhade, Wakhare, Wadkar (keeper), Sarwate, Thakare, Satish, Neral...just about everyone.

Their win against Karnataka was THE match that made everyone sit up.
To be honest, not many would have thought they'd get past Karnataka.

Full credit to them - and of course, coach Pandit.
His contribution has been HUGE.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:55 am

5.15pm Time for the presentation.

Fazal, Vidarbha captain: It [The win] is no less than a fairytale. We worked even before the season - months of training. This [pitch] was just a belter and the way the bowlers did was brilliant. Aditya Thakare picked up a wicket in the first over on debut and that set the tone for us. Because he has some nerves, I thought that will release the pressure. Also, even when Umesh was there, Gurbani bowled the second over. Him bowling the second over is lucky for us. This is really a team effort, including Chandu Sir and the whole support staff. We all believed this trophy could be ours, and we were working towards it. I did not start well, and after that I got five hundreds in five ways. I and Sanju [Sanjay Ramaswamy] enjoy each other's company.

Rajneesh Gurbani, who became only the second bowler after TN's Kalyanasundaram to claim a hat-trick in a Ranji Trophy final is the Man of the Match: Changes were a lot to do with the mind. Right from the first game, we had in the back of our mind that we need to win the trophy, and we have finally done that on a special day. They (Pandit and Subroto) are the two main persons because of whom we have done so well. A big thank you to Chandrakant sir who has made technical changes in my bowling. Same with Subroto sir as well, when he is around, I have nothing to worry about. It's the New Year's day as well, so we will definitely celebrate.

Pant, Delhi captain: As I said the team that plays good cricket wins. Unfortunately, it was a bad game for us in the final. Throughout the season we have played good cricket, but in the final we were bad. It has been a great experience [leading the team], thanks to the DDCA and Gautam bhaiyya. Delhi cricket is growing nicely, and we are looking to win in every level - Under-19, Ranji Trophy. The coach and staff and supported us well. Sorry, guys.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby raja » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:25 pm

Was Pant's keeping in this match poor?
I'm still not sold on this guy as a total package.
Maybe in limited-overs games he's an option - he's a more-than-decent bat and you don't need great keeping skills in ODIs/T20s.
Heck, even Rahul Dravid kept for India in ODIs. :grin:

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby squarecut » Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:58 pm

raja wrote:Was Pant's keeping in this match poor?
I'm still not sold on this guy as a total package.
Maybe in limited-overs games he's an option - he's a more-than-decent bat and you don't need great keeping skills in ODIs/T20s.
Heck, even Rahul Dravid kept for India in ODIs. :grin:


Pant was not only the wicket keeper, he was the captain of the side as well. I have no idea why Gambhir was not the captain.

Pant is a domestic FTB who has filled up his boots against some mediocre bowling attacks in domestic cricket. He gets exposed every time he gets to play half decent bowling attack. I think that his big hitting in IPL and domestic cricket has earned him a hype that he does not deserve. Personally I feel that he is way behind the other wicket keeping contenders. Dhoni, at twice the age of Pant is twice the keeper that Pant is. I think that the undeserved hype that he has received has done serious harm to Pant and he is unable to keep his feet on the ground.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby squarecut » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:04 pm

Coming to Rajneesh Gurbani, the find of the season, I do not think he will succeed at the international level. He bowls at an average pace of 125 kmph (maximum speed 133 kmph). At his pace, he will be massacred in international cricket. He reminds me of Vinay Kumar, Abhimanyu Mithun, Joginder Sharma etc who had similar bowling performances in domestic cricket bowling at similar pace.

The best pacer that Vidarrbha has given us is Umesh Yadav and he is rightly in the BCCI playing team.

On the other hand, I was quite impressed with Delhi pacer Saini. He bowls quick (upto 145 kmph) and he could have been more successful if he was backed by a better captain and a better fielding side.

My feeling is that the find of this domestic season (as far as future prospects are concerned) is not Gurbani but Saini.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby raja » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:11 pm

I was very impressed by Gurbani's swing bowling but I think you are right - at international level, he might struggle to be effective.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:33 am

Bhuvaneshwar Kumar started off at similar pace, later picked up pace.Gurbani should be dealt with carefully by Indian selectors.

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:52 am

I agree that Vinay Kumar and Mithun were found out at international level

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Re: Ranji Trophy 2017-18

Postby bolero » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:21 am

Done