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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Paddles » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:02 pm

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I see what you did here


Didn't work though. He's still there. :evil:

I'm really beginning to think he's this century's Gary Sobers.

True. And Aaron Finch could be the next Don Bradman if the Aussie test selectors wisened up.
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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:04 pm

Whenever Australia lose to England, I feel terrible.
Doesn't matter which format.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:05 pm

Aaron Finch is a good example of all that's wrong with this Aussie side.
Inconsistent, but gets picked for his 1 in 5 performances.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:43 pm

Congrats, Leo!
Bangladesh is through.
Will play top team of Group B, most probably BCCI.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:35 pm

Hehehehe.
Not single match gets expected result. Totally uncertain tournament.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Misty » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:20 pm

Going South wrote:No name change for you. You had 10 different names and ids so far.

England had an uphill task now. They better start praying for rain washout


Ever since Cricforum opened (in business) NO ONE CAN ABLE TO CARRY 10 user at same time, Anyway this, websites for Moderator and Administrator who can changed their User whenever they wants because of their seniority here.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Boycs » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:45 pm

Going South wrote:Hehehehe.
Not single match gets expected result. Totally uncertain tournament.


A good thing in a way though don't you think?

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Verity » Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:55 pm

How good is Stokes?

Has batting become too good now?; Teams seem to win every time chasing.
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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Katto » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:14 am

Australian cricketers are still in dispute with CA and have threatened strike action.
It wouldnt have made much of a difference in this tournament.

I'm not sure what the dispute is about, something to do with them wanting the women to get paid more and solidarity with the union. LOL
I think they're using the women as leverage, as its a hot button issue that politics likes to exploit these days. Typical union tactics.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Leo » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:02 am

Good Luck India and South Africa :up:
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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Boycs » Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:13 am

Go SA go!

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Misty » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:24 am

India v South Africa, Champions Trophy, Group B, The Oval June 11, 2017
Batting chinks critical in virtual quarter-final

Agarkar: Ashwin's ability was never in question

Big picture

Put in by Sri Lanka, after 30 overs in their respective matches: South Africa 163 for 1, India 169 for 2. Never mind the end result, but the approach of the two sides in the next 10 overs told us a lot about how they play their 50-over cricket. South Africa's next five overs: 8, 8, 4, 7, 8. India's next five: 1, 4, 4, 1, 9. Trying to push 350, South Africa lost too many wickets and ended up with just 299. India, knowing they don't do too well when defending under 300, first ensured 300 and took the bonus 21 runs with wickets in hand in the end.

Both sides win a lot of matches with their respective approaches, and lose a few too. South Africa got away with this one against Sri Lanka; India lost despite scoring 321. At the start of 2016, India lost successive matches in Australia despite scoring 309, 308 and 295. A year earlier, in similar conditions, against different opponents in a bigger tournament, they had won matches with 300, 307 and 302. Having lost to Sri Lanka now - they have never won an ICC tournament in which they lose a match to Sri Lanka - will India give up their trusted way of playing ODIs and actively aim for 340 should they find themselves at 160 for 1 or 2 after 30 overs? Or will they bank on the mistakes the pressure of a knockout game induces and be happy with a safe 300-plus target


South Africa, AB de Villiers especially, have been losing their way when looking to impose themselves. It left them in a crisis against Pakistan, and vulnerable against Sri Lanka. They can draw heart from the fact that their bowlers bailed them out against Sri Lanka, and even Pakistan's chase of 220 didn't look quite straightforward when rain brought a premature end to the match. Still, should they find themselves batting first again, and should they get off to a good start, will they have the heart to risk a sub-300 total against the chasing might of India in an attempt to go for their preferred 350?


Truth be told, both sides might want to chase and not grapple with this critical decision making in the first half of this quarter-final scenario that no one expected. This is all thanks to Pakistan and Sri Lanka who have brought the tournament alive by beating South Africa and India, respectively, in a group that everyone thought was only meant to decide who out of India and South Africa will play the second-placed team from the other group in the semi-final. Now, only one of them will go through, especially with weather that looks fine now. Slightly late, but the Champions Trophy has finally had its share of good fortune.

Form guide

India LWLWW (completed matches, most recent first)
South Africa LWWLL

Will South Africa change their bowling combination? © Getty Images

In the spotlight

Since his comeback, Yuvraj Singh has had innings of 15, 150, 45, 53 and 7. He has brought India that explosiveness they badly needed in the middle. His was the innings that turned what looked like a competitive total into a match-winning one against Pakistan. While all the focus is on how India's top three approach the innings, South Africa will want to get him as early as possible. India have lost their second wicket in the 37th and 26th overs in the first two matches; Yuvraj will be key should they do so earlier now.


Despite an ordinary IPL and despite an unremarkable ODI series against England, AB de Villiers has looked anxious to impose himself. Or is it perhaps because of those modest returns? Whatever be the case, it would appear that de Villiers has got out cheaply twice in a row, looking to force the issue without getting himself in. The first time, against Sri Lanka, was what the team interest demanded: South Africa were 189 for 2 when he walked in. Against Pakistan, it seemed more personal that he went against a left-arm spinner first ball, after having struggled against left-arm spin in the IPL. In a knockout match, can he now afford himself some time to feel good again and then look to dominate?

Team news

There will be a big temptation to finally play R Ashwin: South Africa have three left-hand batsmen in the top six. Having said that, three left-hand batsmen plus Thisara Perera didn't get Ashwin a game against Sri Lanka. Having failed to defend 321, though, India might be forced to think differently. If they do, it becomes interesting again if they do it at the expense of Ravindra Jadeja, who went for 52 in eight overs at the same venue. They lose out on a gun fielder should they do that, but Jadeja is now without a three-wicket haul for 23 ODI innings. They might think of two spinners too because India's quicks generally haven't done well against South Africa. Umesh Yadav had a poor day against Sri Lanka, and he might be the one to miss out.

India (possible) 1 Rohit Sharma, 2 Shikhar Dhawan, 3 Virat Kohli (capt.), 4 Yuvraj Singh, 5 MS Dhoni (wk), 6 Kedar Jadhav, 7 Hardik Pandya, 8 Ravindra Jadeja, 9 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 10 Umesh Yadav/R Ashwin, 11 Jasprit Bumrah

South Africa might not hit the panic button when it comes to selection even though JP Duminy has scored only four fifties and averages only 30 since the 2015 World Cup. Farhaan Behardien hasn't lit up the stage either. There are options, though, for Wayne Parnell, who doesn't have a great record against India: economy rate of 7.4 and average of 81.4. If they get more adventurous, South Africa could think of the left-arm spin of Keshav Maharaj.

South Africa (possible): 1 Hashim Amla, 2 Quinton de Kock (wk), 3 Faf du Plessis, 4 AB de Villiers (capt), 5 David Miller, 6 JP Duminy, 7 Chris Morris, 8 Wayne Parnell/Andile Phehlukwayo 9 Kagiso Rabada, 10 Morne Morkel, 11 Imran Tahir

Pitch and conditions

The Oval has been the truest surface. In three completed matches there, the record for the highest successful Champions Trophy chase has been broken twice in the last 10 days. Don't bet against a third one, especially with clear weather. The pitch from the India-Sri Lanka game will be used again

• In all ICC tournaments, including the World T20s, India have beaten South Africa eight times out of 12, including in each of their last four meetings.

• Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Umesh Yadav don't have a good record against South Africa: economy rates of 7.17 and 6.81 with averages over 50. While Japrit Bumrah has never played against South Africa, Mohammed Shami has more than held his own: economy rate of just under six and an average of just under 20.

• After a stellar start to his career - 17 wickets at 14.64 and economy of 3.63 in his first eight matches, Bumrah has gone for 6.88 an over for five wickets at 60.6 in his last five ODIs. His average is 20 and economy rate 4.55 when India bowl first; in defences he has gone at 5.93 an over and has taken a wicket every 57.33 runs.

• Morne Morkel has got Shikhar Dhawan four times in 77 balls for 44 runs, Virat Kohli three times in 104 balls for 68 runs and MS Dhoni three times in 77 balls for 47 runs.

• R Ashwin has dismissed Quinton de Kock twice in 86 balls for 70 runs

"The team that can have the most composure, I would say, to sum it up, will have a better chance of winning of the game tomorrow."
Virat Kohli at his diplomatic best ahead of the game


"I'm really enjoying the captaincy. I think I make some good calls. But yeah, pencil's in your hand, and I unfortunately can't control what you're going to write but in my mind I'm a good captain. So that's unfortunately going to come down to the result again tomorrow. Hopefully a good one."
AB de Villiers goes down a similar path

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Misty » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:27 am

India won toss, will Bowl.Ash returns in place of Umesh Yadav.Q de Kock most likely hits 100 as ,he did 5 century in previous 9 innings Vs India while southafrica bats first.

No rains today.Expect new records of runs

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Misty » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:28 am

Andy (Andile p.) returns in SA's team, he is fast bowler but great player with the bats

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Verity » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:31 am

Maxwell hasnt done a thing since that test ton on that road of a pitch; his Effing shit.
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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Misty » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:36 am

He even dropped Butler crucial stage of match, when England looking for quick runs.Duminy (36*) only good once but ABD so far big dis-appointments for many million peoples.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:49 am

Boycs wrote:Go SA go!

:up: :up: :up:

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:51 am

Leo wrote:Good Luck India and South Africa :up:

:nono:
No fence-sitting, Leo. :grin:
Pick your team.

Who would you rather face in a future round? :grin:

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:24 am

48/0 in 12.3 overs. Steady start.
BCCI needs wickets. If not game over

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:57 am

Congrats, GS, Misty and other BCCI fans here.
Your team has won this.

Your powerhouse batting line-up, despite not having Rahane in it, will chase whatever pathetic score SA put up.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:07 am

SA bowling is quite pathetic, with guys like Pheklukwayo waiting to be hammered all around the park.
BCCI is just too strong a batting side.
If SA get anything less than 340 (and they will), it's over for them.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:08 am

Tough game for both teams. May the better team win.

Pitch is too bouncy. Expects BCCI batsmen get troubled by short balls with quick wicket pressure.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:09 am

Jadeja gets breakthrough. :up:

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:10 am

De Kock gone. :(

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:25 am

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:32 am

Now Miller run out!
This is a disaster! :(

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 12:58 pm

Good team effort.
Too many run outs = good fielding

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:52 pm

37/1 after 10.
Too easy for BCCI.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 1:54 pm

Get Kohli.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:42 pm

100/1
Good work !

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:44 pm

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Misty » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:50 pm

You should say something even from your basement, Going south just shows up despite his busy Sunday schedule with family Responsibilities.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:59 pm

Misty wrote:You should say something even from your basement, Going south just shows up despite his busy Sunday schedule with family Responsibilities.

Yes. I was playing bahubali this weekend yet I cover CF WHEREVER I am with family.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:01 pm

100 partnership. :up:

Dhawan is highest scorer of this tournament. #1. Take that dhawan haters !!!

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 3:54 pm

Congrats to all BCCI supporters.

Very poor performance by SA today.

Not just the batting (which just fell apart after a decent start) but even in the field.

Assuming BCCI top the group, they will play Bangladesh in the semis.

Leo, can you please tell your guys to do some magic?

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Leo » Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:54 pm

Congratulations India :up:
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Postby Asim » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:17 pm

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby raja » Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:24 pm

Asim wrote:Found Vijay and Raja bhai on Twitter, so thought about giving CF a visit.

Congrats to BCCI in advance on winning the Champions trophy.

:up: :up: :up:

Yes, congrats in advance to GS, Misty and other supporters.

Your team is a powerhouse of batting, bowling and fielding.

Not a single weakness.

And everyone is in very good form.

England might do well till the final - but even they will not be able to handle BCCI's power.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Boycs » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:10 pm

raja wrote:
Asim wrote:Found Vijay and Raja bhai on Twitter, so thought about giving CF a visit.

Congrats to BCCI in advance on winning the Champions trophy.

:up: :up: :up:

Yes, congrats in advance to GS, Misty and other supporters.

Your team is a powerhouse of batting, bowling and fielding.

Not a single weakness.

And everyone is in very good form.

England might do well till the final - but even they will not be able to handle BCCI's power.


Raja you change in the wind like old father time

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:17 pm

He is getting ready in advance jinx for BCCI LOSS in finals.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:20 pm

Asim wrote:Found Vijay and Raja bhai on Twitter, so thought about giving CF a visit.

Congrats to BCCI in advance on winning the Champions trophy.

Thanks. God willing.
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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Boycs » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:43 pm

An England India final would be a good achievement by both teams. India in a bit of strife with their board prior to the game, heads elsewhere. England have played good cricket too.

Would love to see England beat India. But can't quite trust myself to believe in it. But then I didn't think they'd beat New Zealand or South Africa.

Rashid has been excellent. But will they rest Roy?

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Going South » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:29 pm

Of all teams Only ECB vs BCCI would get max ratings and max money. Hope this tournament is not staged.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:11 am

Congrats India in knocking the Proteas out of CT. They did it easily in the end. Did the Proteas choke again will be the most asked question this week. I am tipping and India v England final with the sub continental champs to be the victors.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Leo » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:29 am

raja wrote:
Leo wrote:Good Luck India and South Africa :up:

:nono:
No fence-sitting, Leo. :grin:
Pick your team.

Who would you rather face in a future round? :grin:


Whoever, Bangladesh will lose. I don't think Bangladesh is yet matured enough to handle the pressure of Semi Final. If they can than :up:

And . . . . I am not haters of anyone like you :lolup:
Time is the Best Speaker

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Boycs » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:59 am

They are making advances in the one day game and in tests at home. All the more striking when you contrast it with WI continuing decline - hosting Afghanistan while the top flight nations play a one day tournament.

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Re: ICC Champions Trophy: June 1-18, 2017 in England

Postby Misty » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:34 am

Administrator winning toss and srilanka bats first