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India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:59 am

Jadeja gets Warner. Clean bowled!! Yey!
Aggressive?

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:00 am

17/1. 2.5 overs left.
Couple more wickets ?

Aim for innings win. ;)

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Katto » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:02 am

its assured

only problem is these wickets tonight will cut the return for an Indian win at close of play so hardly worth betting on

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:03 am

Warner must be now averaging about @16 for this series. His last sub continental tour.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Leo » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:04 am

I hate Warner. Just because of him I am not gaining enough point in my IIHAG :P
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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:05 am

At least get the night watchman to put pressure

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:05 am

Last over of the day by Sir Jadeja

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby louie_db9 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:06 am

Nightwatchman gone

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Katto » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:06 am

Lyon didnt want to be there

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Verity » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:07 am

Warner is so shit, if Khawaja has to sit out of this tour surely Warner does.
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Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:07 am

Bowled again.
ROFL@Raja who doubted SIR Jadeja.
What a bowler !!!!
Strike that.
What an allrounder !!!

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Katto » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:07 am

most dominant day of the series by India
Australia on the canvas and getting stomped on

Smith will have to bat all day and find a willing partner or two

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:10 am

What?
I was robbed of 4 balls of the over.

Nevertheless, excellent decision on 600+ declaration validated by 2 wickets at the end of day. Perfect.

One fine day !!

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Verity » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:10 am

Surely Warner has to be dropped for the fouth Test for Khawaja.
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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:15 am

Leo wrote:I hate Warner. Just because of him I am not gaining enough point in my IIHAG :P

I am doing ok.. I was smart and did not have Warner. I did tho have Smith and Cummins.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Loose halo » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:16 am

How about S Marsh as well.

See how he goes in this innings I guess. :popcorn:

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:18 am

Verity wrote:Surely Warner has to be dropped for the fouth Test for Khawaja.

Yes he has to go. A few others as well.. problem is we do not have sufficient reserve players.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Katto » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:21 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Verity wrote:Surely Warner has to be dropped for the fouth Test for Khawaja.

Yes he has to go. A few others as well.. problem is we do not have sufficient reserve players.


that wont happen

and Khawaja is sluggish in the field which counts against him

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Katto » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:22 am

supporters of a losing team always blame selection, but at some point you got to acknowledge, their best is better than our best as it stands at this moment

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:26 am

Katto wrote:supporters of a losing team always blame selection, but at some point you got to acknowledge, their best is better than our best as it stands at this moment

I acknowledged that the first day of this series..even before. I have lived in hope since. Without sounding like sour grapes..these pitches are bloody awful for a good and fair game of cricket. :nono: he is the ICC man telling the BCCI what he thinks of their pitches.

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Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:29 am

It is what it is. Swallow the pill. You are on a tour. You always make your pitches as per your liking at home, right? Why sour?

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby raja » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:42 am

Warner has been rubbish all series.
He puts pressure on Smith every single time.
That Smith has soaked in the pressure well is something else.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Katto » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:15 pm

wow Henry Olonga, what a voice

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:38 pm

raja wrote:Warner has been rubbish all series.
He puts pressure on Smith every single time.
That Smith has soaked in the pressure well is something else.

Smith thrives on pressure.. he is a phenomenon.

GS BCCI takes pitch doctoring to a different level than other nations.

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India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:40 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:
raja wrote:Warner has been rubbish all series.
He puts pressure on Smith every single time.
That Smith has soaked in the pressure well is something else.

Smith thrives on pressure.. he is a phenomenon.

GS BCCI takes pitch doctoring to a different level than other nations.

Bullshit.
Australia are the worst closely followed by England. Go Listen to any of ashes commentary for the last 40 years and you would not miss pitch tampering comments. Duh!!!

More than intentional tampering I blame substandard lax management & cheap cost cutting for bad pitches in India.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Paddles » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:41 pm

Aussies coulda done with Pattinson today @ Katto
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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Paddles » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:51 pm

Going South wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:Smith thrives on pressure.. he is a phenomenon.

GS BCCI takes pitch doctoring to a different level than other nations.

Bullshit.
Australia are the worst closely followed by England.
More than intentional tampering I blame substandard lax management & cheap cost cutting for bad pitches in India.


Sorry GS, I have good arguments that Aussie aint saintly with its flat bouncy wickets that typically only Aussie tall seam bowlers trouble batsmen on, but a groundskeeper in last year's WT20 told NZ that the Ind-NZ pitch wouldn't turn. NZ played 3 spinners for the win! The pitch was turning sideways in the 8th over.

A groundskeeper years ago even came out and admitted he reinforced the pitch strength for SK Warne's likely pitch maps but let it crumble for Singh's (less so Kumble).

But why is anyone caring about pitch doctoring on this wicket? Pitch looked lifeless in the first completed innings and late on day 4 Jadeja finds rough to turn sideways. Good possible result wicket. Its India. Pitches favour spin. The match is going 5 days and over 1000 runs have been scored. Nothing wrong with this pitch. Now those Safrican pitches India prepared in 2015...
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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Boycs » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:09 pm

Watching highlights of Smith's century. This kid has skills, likeability or otherwise notwithstanding.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Boycs » Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:11 pm

Going South wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:Smith thrives on pressure.. he is a phenomenon.

GS BCCI takes pitch doctoring to a different level than other nations.

Bullshit.
Australia are the worst closely followed by England. Go Listen to any of ashes commentary for the last 40 years and you would not miss pitch tampering comments. Duh!!!

More than intentional tampering I blame substandard lax management & cheap cost cutting for bad pitches in India.


I presume that if there was a contrast between Test pitches and the state of the pitches in domestic county cricket, where presumably international or external considerations/pressures have less or no impact, then it would be of relevance in this argument.

Indian domestic stats can be utterly ridiculous.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Paddles » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:05 pm

BoyCaught30 wrote:
Going South wrote:Bullshit.
Australia are the worst closely followed by England. Go Listen to any of ashes commentary for the last 40 years and you would not miss pitch tampering comments. Duh!!!

More than intentional tampering I blame substandard lax management & cheap cost cutting for bad pitches in India.


I presume that if there was a contrast between Test pitches and the state of the pitches in domestic county cricket, where presumably international or external considerations/pressures have less or no impact, then it would be of relevance in this argument.

Indian domestic stats can be utterly ridiculous.


I get yoir point, well they do play spin well at every level. And easier to feast off lower level spin. When do they first meet seam bowling attacks who nip or swing or it about at a lively pace while keeping an offside stump line and a good length? Even simpler, when do they meet regular sniffs?
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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Misty » Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:45 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:
Misty wrote:
50 overs (today) or so left why to declare?

This is still only the second innings? They must have great hope in their spinners..more than ours who look completely lost. How do you expect world class seamers to perform on this graveyard..has gone beyond a road. No doubt BCCI are waiting for futher deterioration and then move Jadeja and Ashwin in for the kill.. Why does the ICC allow these pitches for test cricket. Makes a mockery of our great game.


You not blame Ranchi track because after winning toss, your team not able to post 500 or more in the first innings.you may not say nothing if Australia bats second and scores 603, Right?

Still 2 possibility regarding results.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 5:17 pm

You give too much credit for pitch than players? Hmm
How about saying
BCCI has better world class spin talent in their team compared to other teams ?
No matter what pitch they play BCCI always play with 3 spinners for decades where as most other teams base their attack on 3 good fast bowlers no matter what pitch they play. It's the quality of bowlers that give favorable result as both teams got both spinners and fast bowlers.
ozymandias got wickets in truck load in first test but where was that spin in next 2 tests? You talk as if it's some Indian voodoo pitch that help only Indians? ROFL

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby MikeR68 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:41 pm

Sure the pitch conditions for the 1st 2 tests may be questioned and rated poor, but this pitch is a typical Indian wicket, application by the batsmen have seen score totals of 450 and 600. If Australia lose the test it is due to the poor bowling with the exception of Cummins. 210 overs equals 1260 deliveries and only 9 were good enough to get wickets. Because the batsmen didn't chase the wide deliveries they scored at 2.9 per over, makes for good economy rates for the bowlers, but all that achieved is 2.5 days in the heat of India which I think will sap the energy of the Australian batsmen. Jadeja aims at the stumps and gets 2 wickets, that's not pitch conditions that's good bowling utilising a turning pitch condition and India have every right to produce a turning pitch. It's what we expect in India, just like the bouncy pitch conditions of Australia. That is not "Pitch Doctoring"!!!! India pitch doctoring would be if India produced a "green top" or if Australia produced a dry barren pitch. Quality batsmen at this level should be able to keep the ball out with a defensive stroke. David Warner thinks a "block" is something he puts his knives into. Poor pitch is when you see the ball staying low and grubbers along the ground with no time for the batsmen to react, just like the 2nd innings of the 2nd test, the bowler only has to aim at the stumps and let the pitch do the rest, and grade cricketers can aim at the stumps doesn't take a genius to work that out. That's not happening here, and if it is, the Australian bowlers didn't utilize very well, did they.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Mick180461 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:53 pm

Katto wrote:supporters of a losing team always blame selection, but at some point you got to acknowledge, their best is better than our best as it stands at this moment

Dead right Kato, the only wrong selection i see for this test is S Marsh instead of khawaja. The poorest Cricket so far by an Australian this series is Smiths captaincy yesterday and his refusal to use all his bowling resourcex. To easy to blame selectors but since the change to the panel they have got a lot of things right, Renshaw, Handscomb, Maxwell, Cummins, O'Keefe.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Mick180461 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:02 pm

I think the biggest disappointment among the bowlers yesterday was Lyon, continuel refusal to dump plan A and go to plan B or C. Hazlewood was completely nuetralised by the pitch, O'Keefe done a reasonable job in that he kept the run rate down but relies on the wkt turning to much.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Paddles » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:58 pm

India bat deep. They played 6 specialist batsmen. And enjoy the fact that Ashwin and Jadeja are allrounders as well as Saha being talented with the bat as a keeper. Jadeja at 9 is a luxury no other team in world cricket enjoys. England get close to batting long with Stokes, Ali, and Woakes, but its a different kettle of fish.
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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby MikeR68 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 10:02 pm

Sorry Mick got to disagree with you. Prior to this series all the talk was about Starc, Hazelwood and M Marsh's ability to reverse the ball and that was the plan against India. This so-called reverse is totally condition related. What happens when the conditions aren't right, what is Plan B with these bowlers? Bowl wide outside off and hope the Indian batsmen play a rash stroke? There is nothing that Hazelwood has that is "neutralized" by the pitch, he's a line and length bowler, doesn't have express pace, doesn't really have a plan B. That's why from 5 innings he's only taken 8 wickets and 6 of them came in 1 innings when the ball was staying low and we lost the test, so the other 4 innings he's got 2 wickets. Starc from 4 innings has taken 5 wickets. M Marsh nothing but wasn't bowled. O'keefe 3/200 is reasonable? Jadeja took 5/124 that's reasonable. Compared to Lyon sure it's OK but 77 overs....462 deliveries and only 3 wickets. A lot of garbage deliveries in there. Pat Cummins did all the hard work by getting India's top order batsmen 4/55 at one stage for him, and he was playing on the same pitch, same conditions, playing 1st test in India, but got the job done, the pitch didn't "neutralize" him, he had a Plan B. Was totally let down by Hazelwood, Lyon and O'keefe who took 5/500, combined. Don't make excuses it was a poor display, and they have to be held accountable as a team combined, not just singling out Lyon. If the others were doing a reasonable job, they shouldn't have had to bowl Lyon so much. And the low run rate did nothing but sap energy from the fieldsmen, which I am sure Warner will use as an excuse. Low run rate didn't stop India scoring 600 runs they just did it slower. Wickets also lowers the run rate, and also shortens the length of an innings and guess what it normally prevents scores of 600. :roll:

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Postby Going South » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:01 pm

Great post. :up:
Exactly my thoughts.
To add, Some bowlers are good and some are average. It's not just spin or fast bowlers. It's the experience & talent that shine. Pitch is same for both teams. Both teams get surprised by unexpected pitch behavior. Only the best captain and team can come up top to use resources cleverly. Don't blame pitch for other shortcomings.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Mick180461 » Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:58 pm

Mike about O'Keefe i said he done a reasonable job that he kept the run rate down Lyon couldn't even do that 2.58 v 3.54. When i talk about plans for bowlers. Did Lyon at any stage yesterday slow his pace down? All i saw was him bowling around the wkt at 95 kmh never saw him bowl an arm ball and get the batsman thinking or use the crease it was the same shit over and over. Hazlewood wasn't nuetralised by the wkt? He couldn't get it to reverse.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:02 am

And yet here in Australia where everyone bitches & moans about roads, Australia keeps winning test matches all the time.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:18 am

Mick180461 wrote:Mike about O'Keefe i said he done a reasonable job that he kept the run rate down Lyon couldn't even do that 2.58 v 3.54. When i talk about plans for bowlers. Did Lyon at any stage yesterday slow his pace down? All i saw was him bowling around the wkt at 95 kmh never saw him bowl an arm ball and get the batsman thinking or use the crease it was the same shit over and over. Hazlewood wasn't nuetralised by the wkt? He couldn't get it to reverse.

Correct Mick. On a graveyard like this unless you have Cummin's express pace your only weapon is reverse. I was surprised by the little reverse attained by both our quicks yesterday. With our pace spearheads neutralised it was up to our two so called best spinners to take the wickets. SOK was the pick as he at least contained the batsmen. Lyon on the other hand was disappointing as he has been so many time before thruout his career. Just can not seem to rise to the occasion when most needed. :hatsoff: to a monumental knock by Pujara.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:31 am

Lyon is a big turner of the ball and occasionally thats all it takes and he gets his big hauls but most of the time you have to work very hard to get batsman out, try varying your pace, release the ball from different places on the crease and further back. don't let the batsman get comfortable, bowl an arm ball occasionally, make the batsman think, this is where Lyon fails time & time again.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby MikeR68 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:48 am

Mick180461 wrote:Mike about O'Keefe i said he done a reasonable job that he kept the run rate down Lyon couldn't even do that 2.58 v 3.54. When i talk about plans for bowlers. Did Lyon at any stage yesterday slow his pace down? All i saw was him bowling around the wkt at 95 kmh never saw him bowl an arm ball and get the batsman thinking or use the crease it was the same shit over and over. Hazlewood wasn't nuetralised by the wkt? He couldn't get it to reverse.


I agree with you Mick, but the same goes for all bowlers. I for one am tired of our bowlers when things aren't going their way, just placing the ball in play, it bores the crap out of me, I even turned over to the "Biggest Loser" last night, that was more entertaining. Hazelwood places the ball wide of off hoping for the batsman to play a shot, that works against WI and New Zealand as they have great limited overs side, they can't help themselves they will swing, but against India, they are ranked No 1 for a reason in tests, they aren't going to be tempted. Hazelwood got his wicket by attacking the stumps. As soon as they score a few runs he reverts back to outside off. It's like he has this idea that he is in the side to keep the run rate down, and wicket-taking is secondary. He has to change that mind set. There is no difference between Hazelwood in India or Sri Lanka (SL 3 test 7 wickets out of 60, in India 3 tests 8 wickets from basically 50 opportunities), so much for the horses for courses approach. It's not like Hazelwood was competing for the wickets and never got the opportunity he bowled 44 overs...44 overs of garbage. Lyon and O'keefe exactly the same, never attacked the stumps, 3 catches and a stumping, just placing the ball in play, with no variations as you said Mick. Jadeja attacked the stumps, 2 bowled dismissals in 3.2 overs. That's bowling!

If a bowler has to rely solely on reversing conditions to be effective, then they shouldn't be playing at international level, because that doesn't always occur, what's their plan B. Johnson's was pace at the body, get them hopping, Harris never changed his line from the top of off, they miss he hits. You have to remember, these sort of pitches are more common than our pitches, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, even the WI are becoming more like them. We can't keep blaming the pitches, both teams have to play on them, our players just can't adapt. They're too use to pitches and conditions doing the job for them. Cummins the exception, he bowled well and is probably pissed off at the others, he is the "new Boy" in his 2nd test, and his head will be on the chopping block before the others. That also has to change, Starc and Hazelwood on notice IMO, shape up or ship out! :evil:

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Postby Katto » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:59 am

Mick180461 wrote:Lyon is a big turner of the ball and occasionally thats all it takes and he gets his big hauls but most of the time you have to work very hard to get batsman out, try varying your pace, release the ball from different places on the crease and further back. don't let the batsman get comfortable, bowl an arm ball occasionally, make the batsman think, this is where Lyon fails time & time again.


Lyon is a rare talent, but he's dumb as a plank. Has a great action, much lke Harbhajan Singh.
SOK is smart, but lacks that talent.

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Postby Mick180461 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:02 am

Katto wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:Lyon is a big turner of the ball and occasionally thats all it takes and he gets his big hauls but most of the time you have to work very hard to get batsman out, try varying your pace, release the ball from different places on the crease and further back. don't let the batsman get comfortable, bowl an arm ball occasionally, make the batsman think, this is where Lyon fails time & time again.


Lyon is a rare talent, but he's dumb as a plank. Has a great action, much lke Harbhajan Singh.
SOK is smart, but lacks that talent.

Lyon is the same bowler he was 6 years ago, most players learn and get better but not the DOAT (dumbest of all time).

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Misty » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:10 am

Lyon I think among greatest Australian bowler because 70 % track there not spinner friendly at test venues

my father says, '' Asian mentality of extra careful vs fast bowler in Australia till spinner came to bowls after 40 overs in Australia,batsman take Liberties vs Lyon and lost their wickets''

anyway stats says, good number of wickets, he took in australia

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Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:12 am

Mick180461 wrote:Lyon is a big turner of the ball and occasionally thats all it takes and he gets his big hauls but most of the time you have to work very hard to get batsman out, try varying your pace, release the ball from different places on the crease and further back. don't let the batsman get comfortable, bowl an arm ball occasionally, make the batsman think, this is where Lyon fails time & time again.

How many years have you and I and the rest of Australia being saying that Mick? He does not listen. He does not learn. There can not be much between the ears. Lyon's excuses are over. He has to deliver next test or be booted.

Misty. Lyon does have plenty of home wickets because he is tall and gets good bounce and turn from Aussie decks. Or used to before they became drop in roads. It is when he tours in conditions which should suit spinners that he comes up short.. ala Sri lanka, India 2013 and again here. Apart from a handful in first test, his terrific 8for in second, he has something like 66 -1/220 since. He has ability, but too often it is hidden. He should be winning us test matches abroad. He is not. He should never tour again.
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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:39 am

Misty wrote:Lyon I think among greatest Australian bowler because 70 % track there not spinner friendly at test venues

my father says, '' Asian mentality of extra careful vs fast bowler in Australia till spinner came to bowls after 40 overs in Australia,batsman take Liberties vs Lyon and lost their wickets''

anyway stats says, good number of wickets, he took in australia

Plenty of spinners have succeeded in Australia Misty, its about learning your craft. One of the biggest advantages of bowling Spin in Australia is the bounce we get in OZ and the Aussie spinners bowl with more overspin then in the subcontinent. In my time Mallett, Yardley, May, Miller, Macgill and of course Warney were very succesful on Aussie wkts. Lyon does get a lot of overspin and that is why he has had some success here but you have to back it up with some variety, get the batsman guessing, that is where Lyon fails. In his last 12 tests he has taken 41 wkts@42.14, number of wkts okay-ish but conceded just to many runs at to high a RR. And we do have spinners knocking on the selectors door. Its not like it was 3-4 yrs ago when there was no other genuine choice (except O'Keefe who was on the outer for some reason).

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:49 am

Not sure I am going to be able to watch the first hour.

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Re: India vs Australia: 3rd Test; March 16-20, 2017 at Ranchi

Postby Leo » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:55 am

Fire ordeal for Aussie batters. Hope you can keep my expectations as I guessed this match a draw one.

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