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New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Misty » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:19 am

Fixture

1st ODI at Auckland on Jan 30, 2017 (22:00 GMT)
2nd ODI at Napier on Feb 2, 2017 (22:00 GMT)
3rd ODI at Hamilton on Feb 5, 2017 (22:00 GMT)


Squad

New Zealand (2 ODI)
Kane Williamson (C), Tom Blundell (wk), Trent Boult, Neil Broom, Colin de Grandhomme, Lockie Ferguson, Martin Guptill, Matt Henry, Tom Latham (wk), Colin Munro, Jimmy Neesham, Mitchell Santner, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor

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Steven Smith (C), Aaron Finch, Shaun Marsh, Peter Handscomb, Travis Head, Glenn Maxwell, Marcus Stoinis, Matthew Wade (wk), James Faulkner, Mitchell Starc, Pat Cummins, Adam Zampa, Josh Hazlewood, Billy Stanlake
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Verity » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:54 am

Good prep for a Indian tour :lmao: what a joke
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Going South » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:09 pm

Man. I hate monotonous series.
India vs srilanka is another such borefest.

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:11 am

what's this Sam Heazlett done to deserve selection???

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Verity » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:26 am

Katto wrote:what's this Sam Heazlett done to deserve selection???


Hit a couple quick 30s in the Big Bash :lol:
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:54 am

Misty wrote:Heazlett is classy since his debut in FC 129 and 78 not out. he is Left hand Batsman


so two scores in first class cricket is enough for national selection in the ODI team now :?

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:54 am

Liking Latham keeping. Helps with team balance while no Cory Anderson. Like Broom at 5 for now. Munro needs to cash in with Blundell and Bruce and Anderson (batting only) still in the mix.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:56 am

Really disapointed with the crowd size. Best team in the world visit, closest neighbour, biggest sporting rival on a regional holiday.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:58 am

Warner not playing may have sold less tickets perhaps
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Verity » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:58 am

Apparently the Australian selectors don't want Maxwell bowling anymore, just become a batsmen is the message to him.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:02 am

Munro isnt really an allrounder. Latham keeping keeps Munro in team ahead of Bruce and Anderson (injured and not bowling) and allrounder De Grandhomme. With no Latham keeping - Blundell takes Munro's spot.

Nicholls is in danger in test team but Broom may not be heading the list of possible replacements
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:14 am

Misty wrote:Nichollas hits 98 recently, is it in test?
Yes otherwise he really struggle,i think Bharat Popli should give chance at least once who had 61 average in FC.


Popli is in a list of players who are eyeing up Nicholls spot.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:16 am

Could be wrong but I suspect only Safrica visit NZ and win the 50 over stuff in recent timed. Unsure about England tho.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:17 am

Misty wrote:I think either Bruce or Broom makes it more oftenly than Ayaz Patel,popli or JEET (probably Guppy return)


Guppy will make no test return soon without a Bradman like run in domestic fc cricket barring injuries of course.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Verity » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:25 am

:lol: Australian batsmen are flat track bullies all the way, as soon as they play somewhere there not use to they flop like a sack of shit
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:28 am

Verity wrote::lol: Australian batsmen are flat track bullies all the way, as soon as they play somewhere there not use to they flop like a sack of shit

But put the Australian team in white clothes and NZ team forget how to play winning cricket, here or in Aus both :lol:
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:52 am

RSA are regular NZ tourists. They typically visit and thrash us. We play better against Aus in NZ for the 50 over stuff with crowd support.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:57 am

NZ going for jugular - neesham nor any 5th bowler bowled yet. Half innings complete.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:00 am

I count about 4 players in this Australian team that would be regular starters in their best 11

series should be renamed NZ vs Australia 'A'

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:03 am

Katto wrote:I count about 4 players in this Australian team that would be regular starters in their best 11

series should be renamed NZ vs Australia 'A'

:lmao:

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:10 am

Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:I count about 4 players in this Australian team that would be regular starters in their best 11

series should be renamed NZ vs Australia 'A'

Only Warner and Smith unavailable :lmao:


Wade, Khawaja, Zampa...

the rest are rookies and fringe players

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:13 am

Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:Only Warner and Smith unavailable :lmao:


Wade, Khawaja, Zampa...

the rest are rookies and fringe players


Khwaja and Zampa dropped long ago?

Warner - doesn't score in NZ - crowd gets on him no end

Smith is a loss.

Finch and Marsh played plenty for Aus. Stoinis has been your best so far besides -didn't he take M Marsh's spot?

The rookies have beaten out George Bailey and co. Head, Handscombe and Maxwell are past Aus A now. Starc, Faukner, Cummins and Hazlewood are well established selector's favourites. I still prefer Pattinson to Cummins myself tho.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:20 am

when are you going to build a proper cricket ground in Auckland?

this rugby field makes a mockery of the game

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:23 am

No Ronchi, C Anderson or Milne for NZ. Players miss games with busy schedules - just how it is.

No - there's not enough games, fans nor money for a intl cricket oval in Auckland.

When you guys going to play on proper cricket grounds instead of those massive AFL stadiums?
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:26 am

what a joke that mis-hit drive went for 6

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Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:27 am

Paddles wrote:No Ronchi, C Anderson or Milne for NZ. Players miss games with busy schedules - just how it is.

No - there's not enough games, fans nor money for a intl cricket oval in Auckland.

When you guys going to play on proper cricket grounds instead of those massive AFL stadiums?


they're all cricket grounds built for cricket

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

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Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:No Ronchi, C Anderson or Milne for NZ. Players miss games with busy schedules - just how it is.

No - there's not enough games, fans nor money for a intl cricket oval in Auckland.

When you guys going to play on proper cricket grounds instead of those massive AFL stadiums?


they're all cricket grounds built for cricket


Built for Australian cricket. Not English, West Indian, Indian or NZ cricket. Part of cricket's charm - only the circle and the pitch dimensions are universal ground to ground.
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Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
they're all cricket grounds built for cricket


Built for Australian cricket. Not English, West Indian, Indian or NZ cricket. Part of cricket's charm - only the circle and the pitch dimensions are universal ground to ground.


this Auckland ground is way too small though

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Built for Australian cricket. Not English, West Indian, Indian or NZ cricket. Part of cricket's charm - only the circle and the pitch dimensions are universal ground to ground.


this Auckland ground is way too small though


Its not ideal. But its the biggest stadium in Auckland and Aus visiting for 50 overs is the biggest drawcard in NZC between a world cup once every 23 years or so. Aus and NZ crowds both this year have been poor. I worry for BBL impact on non-Ashes tours in Aus.
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Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:50 am

ground invading strippers?

really? in 2017?

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I reckon with the big bats these days every new ground should have 100 metre plus boundaries.
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Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
this Auckland ground is way too small though


Its not ideal. But its the biggest stadium in Auckland and Aus visiting for 50 overs is the biggest drawcard in NZC between a world cup once every 23 years or so. Aus and NZ crowds both this year have been poor. I worry for BBL impact on non-Ashes tours in Aus.


ODI cricket is practically dead here

it only seems to have a lifeline in India

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Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:
Its not ideal. But its the biggest stadium in Auckland and Aus visiting for 50 overs is the biggest drawcard in NZC between a world cup once every 23 years or so. Aus and NZ crowds both this year have been poor. I worry for BBL impact on non-Ashes tours in Aus.


ODI cricket is practically dead here

it only seems to have a lifeline in India


Only because of Kohls, his keeping the format alive
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Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:
Its not ideal. But its the biggest stadium in Auckland and Aus visiting for 50 overs is the biggest drawcard in NZC between a world cup once every 23 years or so. Aus and NZ crowds both this year have been poor. I worry for BBL impact on non-Ashes tours in Aus.


ODI cricket is practically dead here

it only seems to have a lifeline in India


The Eng Aus NZ t20 tri series is a big exeriment next summer to keep intl cricket ahead of franchise t20 cricket
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

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Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
ODI cricket is practically dead here

it only seems to have a lifeline in India


The Eng Aus NZ t20 tri series is a big exeriment next summer to keep intl cricket ahead of franchise t20 cricket


do they ever play test matches in Auckland? or is Hamilton the nearest thing?

international T20's normally do ok with crowds

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Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:
The Eng Aus NZ t20 tri series is a big exeriment next summer to keep intl cricket ahead of franchise t20 cricket


do they ever play test matches in Auckland? or is Hamilton the nearest thing?

international T20's normally do ok with crowds

Eden Park only gets a few tests. Has to be a big drawcard team like England or India though. Players and fans alike are not keen on empty stadiums - esp non oval ones. Basin in Wngtn is the premium nz test venue and Chch Lincoln Oval is on the rise.
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Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:06 am

There is a day night test scheduled for eden park maybe in 2018 vs England. Long tour for England if thats Ashes tour as well.
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Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
do they ever play test matches in Auckland? or is Hamilton the nearest thing?

international T20's normally do ok with crowds

Eden Park only gets a few tests. Has to be a big drawcard team like England or India though. Players and fans alike are not keen on empty stadiums - esp non oval ones. Basin in Wngtn is the premium nz test venue and Chch Lincoln Oval is on the rise.


I like Basin and that ground in Dunedin

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Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:14 am

these dopey batsmen didnt need to rush
run rate not an issue here but they kept trying to smash everything

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby raja » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:15 am

I'm terrible at picking players for IIHAG.

For this series I was just about to pick Neesham. At the last moment, I switched to de Grandhomme.

Who's the better allrounder you think? For each format?

Of course, de Grandhomme has just started his career but he's made quite an impression already.

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

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Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:Eden Park only gets a few tests. Has to be a big drawcard team like England or India though. Players and fans alike are not keen on empty stadiums - esp non oval ones. Basin in Wngtn is the premium nz test venue and Chch Lincoln Oval is on the rise.


I like Basin and that ground in Dunedin


Dunedin? Sure you don't mean Chch? I meant Hagley Oval in Chch not Lincoln Oval in Dunedin. They're great grounds for test cricket but have small crowd capacity for an Aus 50 over tour. Matching the stadiums to the tickets sold is becomming a thing in NZC most evident with odi's against Aus or Eng played at Wngtn Stadium and not Basin.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby raja » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:18 am

And oh, welcome back, Paddles. :-)

Have you changed your opinion of Ben Stokes?

I remember you really laid into him a while ago when we were discussing allrounders. :-)

Since then, he's really stepped up a couple of notches, hasn't he?

Or do you think he's still highly overrated? :-)

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Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:20 am

3rd 6 looked like it went straight up and still went for 6

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

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Katto wrote:
I like Basin and that ground in Dunedin


Dunedin? Sure you don't mean Chch? I meant Hagley Oval in Chch not Lincoln Oval in Dunedin. They're great grounds for test cricket but have small crowd capacity for an Aus 50 over tour. Matching the stadiums to the tickets sold is becomming a thing in NZC most evident with odi's against Aus or Eng played at Wngtn Stadium and not Basin.


no I mean Dunedin

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

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raja wrote:And oh, welcome back, Paddles. :-)

Have you changed your opinion of Ben Stokes?

I remember you really laid into him a while ago when we were discussing allrounders. :-)

Since then, he's really stepped up a couple of notches, hasn't he?

Or do you think he's still highly overrated? :-)


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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

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Katto wrote:
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Dunedin? Sure you don't mean Chch? I meant Hagley Oval in Chch not Lincoln Oval in Dunedin. They're great grounds for test cricket but have small crowd capacity for an Aus 50 over tour. Matching the stadiums to the tickets sold is becomming a thing in NZC most evident with odi's against Aus or Eng played at Wngtn Stadium and not Basin.


no I mean Dunedin


Not a test venue nor a main odi ground.
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:25 am

Starc you moron

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:25 am

Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
no I mean Dunedin


Not a test venue nor a main odi ground.


I'm sure I've seen test matches there

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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:27 am

Nah - have at Hagley in Chch tho.

Stoinis is motm in a losing team :/
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Re: New Zealand vs Australia: ODI Series; Jan-Feb, 2017 at New Zealand

Postby Katto » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:32 am

Mitch Marsh would be sitting at home watching his international career disappear before his eyes


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