India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:49 pm

Gonna need 14 off the last over!

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:50 pm

Oh no, 8 off the last over - Butler just smashed a six

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby afghankhan » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:00 pm

What a choke by England.

Shame shame
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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:03 pm

Ahahahahaha
Ohohhhohohohoho
Kikikikikkiki

LOL ROFL ROLLING. AWWWW

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India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:05 pm

I stand by what I said.
Test players on both teams are UNFIT to play T20

When would these selectors stop selecting players based on performance in another format ? It's an unpardonable crime in cricket. There is no accountability!

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby raja » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:12 pm

Congratulations to BCCI supporters!

We were going along quite well, but credit to Nehra and Bumrah. Excellent bowling!

We were also unlucky as BCCI got two very lucky decisions from the umpires.

Kohli not given out when he was out (at this stage he had got just 3!)
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2.2
Jordan to Kohli, no run, big appeal for lbw. Kohli looks to play a short-arm jab but the ball kept low and hit him on the pad. The keeper didn't look all that convinced. Really, really tight. I tell you what, Kohli is lucky to hang around That would have crashed into middle stump


Root given out when he was not out (this was the very first delivery of the last over; could have changed the match)
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19.1
Bumrah to Root, OUT, appeal for lbw, and that's a wicket that will breathe life into the Indian cmap. Looked like an optimistic appeal but the umpire raised the finger quickly. Root tried to pull across the line when he could have simply tucked it to the leg side. Looks like there was an inside-edge. Root unlucky
JE Root lbw b Bumrah 38 (38b 2x4 0x6) SR: 100.00


But ok, I'm not complaining. These things happen!

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Boycs » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:46 pm

They do balance themselves out these poor umpiring decisions though personally I think drs should be mandatory. But what a choke by England. South Africa level!

Morgan had a poor innings that stalled momentum though he has had a good tour otherwise and is talented.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Sam » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:13 pm

Going South wrote:I stand by what I said.
Test players on both teams are UNFIT to play T20

When would these selectors stop selecting players based on performance in another format ? It's an unpardonable crime in cricket. There is no accountability!


Which players are you referring to here out of interest?

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby squarecut » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:24 am

Reading English media reports makes one believe that England lost because Root was given out wrongly. All right, he was given out wrongly, but England still had five more balls left in which to score 8 runs with two specialist hard hitting batsmen at the crease. What is the guarantee that Root would have scored where Buttler and Moeen Ali failed to put bat to ball ? Thank goodness that Buttler was clean bowled later in the over and not lbw otherwise English media would have used that too as a reason for cribbing. Why English media cannot give credit where it is due ? If Jordan's death bowling can be appreciated where he did not allow Dhoni to score then why English media cannot appreciate the fact that Root too may have failed to score against Bumrah in the last over, even if he had survived.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:36 pm

Sour grapes. Ask any Australian who followed ashes and read some English media takings! Puke worthy.
There is a reason English media is called TABLOIDS

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Sam » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:15 pm

Going South wrote:


Sam wrote:Which players are you referring to here out of interest?


Any chance of a reply to this?

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India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:57 pm

Raina yuvraj and dhoni should not play T20 internationals until they prove their form in T20 domestic such as IPL. Last year IPL records for them is dismal. How can you expect them to perform good in T20 internationals if they fail in IPL itself ?

BCCI spinners dont know difference between test matches or T20s. No strategy or variation what so ever. Test bowlers indeed.

Dawson, mills should not be allowed to play T20 until they are proven.
Same goes for Roy who is yet to prove his worth. Morgan has constant string of failures behind him yet he is persisted dunno why.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Sam » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:03 am

Going South wrote:.
Dawson, mills should not be allowed to play T20 until they are proven.
Same goes for Roy who is yet to prove his worth. Morgan has constant string of failures behind him yet he is persisted dunno why.


Roy was our best batsman in the ODI series and one of the leading run scorers in the t20 world cup getting him a place in the official team of the tournament, how is that not proving your worth?

How are Dawson and Mills meant to prove themselves other than performing in domestic cricket (as they have) and then getting a shot at international level? Add to that that Mills has been very good so far in his few games so far, particularly at the death.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:41 pm

Kohli gone for two!

ITS ON

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby louie_db9 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:51 pm

England 119-2 to 127 all out :shock:

India win by 75 runs, Chahal 6-25

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:00 pm

England got ass whopped. Who is your daddy?
Who said they England is good in T20? ROFL

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby raja » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:35 pm

What a thrashing!

And what a collapse!

8 wicket fell for 8 runs. 119/2 became 127 all out!

Brought back memories of that amazing Sarfaraz Nawaz 9-wicket show - I think it was at the MCG. He later admitted it was reverse swing he had tried - and the Aussie batsmen didn't really know anything about it then.

But back to today's game. Chahal 6/23 - best by an Indian bowler in T20Is. Bumrah was good too.

Think of players like Root and Moeen Ali, who were there in all formats. And ended up on the losing side in all.

At least Morgan wasn't there for the Test series.

All in all, a very satisfying 2-3 months for Kohli as captain.

And oh, that Dhoni stumping towards the end brought back memories. He is still SO much in the game, it's amazing!

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby afghankhan » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:49 pm

Congrats India.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Sam » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:05 pm

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Going South wrote:England got ass whopped. Who is your daddy?
Who said they England is good in T20? ROFL


Let's be honest, without some shocking umpiring the scoreline would quite easily have been reversed for this t20 series. Coming out of India with a 2-1 t20 loss with that situation is hardly a farce.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:02 pm

What shocking? Show me proof.
Don't talk out of thin air.
I take borderline decisions with pinch of salt as both teams face them.
Shocking? Eh???

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Sam » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:19 pm

Going South wrote:What shocking? Show me proof.
Don't talk out of thin air.
I take borderline decisions with pinch of salt as both teams face them.
Shocking? Eh???


Show you proof? You mean you haven't actually watched any of the series yet are making definitive blanket statements on the quality of teams on the basis of the games?

Kohli being given not out lbw to one of the most plumb LBWs in the series for one, Yuvraj then also not given out to a ball that wasn't as plumb but was still hitting the stumps, then Root given out lbw to a ball he smashed off the edge into his pads. All by the same umpire in the same game (and all 3 the only incorrect decisions in the game) appointed by the BCCI last minute to replace a flawless umpire from the previous game despite him landing in the country from Australia less than 24 hours before the game started...

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:38 pm

To you that's shocking?
LBWs appeals in cricket are dime a dozen.
It goes both ways most of times.
As fans we need to suck it up if one LBW decision is "inconclusive" to umpires. They are just impartial umpires doing their job and If you are standing there in the middle, i am sure you would come to same conclusions on the angle of the ball moving away or moving in. You dont know the real reason why umpire changes, may be he got diarrhea god know what, dont jump to conclusions. That game is a huge whopping ass kicking win in whatever angle you see.
No conspiracy theories over LBW decisions please. Give credit where its due.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby raja » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:45 am

I wouldn't read too much into this T20 series win.
First of all, it's T20, secondly it's a 2-1 win for India.
Maybe if it had been 3-0, one could have made a case for a superior performance.

With 2-1, especially with that game with terrible umpiring decisions that went BCCI's way every time, I'd be very muted with my celebrations if I were a BCCI fan. :-) The scoreline could SO easily have been 2-1 in England's favour.

It's not about partial or impartial umpires. Nobody has questioned the integrity of the umpires. And nobody is suggesting a conspiracy. But it cannot be denied that England were hard done by some very poor umpiring that evening.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:12 am

Shit happens. Move on. In every game there would be a winner and a loser. There always would be NOISE coming from a loser on something went unfair against them if not for that they would have won kind of loser logic. Move on. To me BCCI won the game fair and square. Accept that and give them credit for THAT match.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby squarecut » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:22 am

To say that England lost because one Indian batsman was reprieved and one England batsman was not in the second T20 match is just whining. What is the guarantee that Root (the wrongly given out batsman in second T20 match) would have scored winning runs if he was not given out ? Buttler (considered the best T20 batsman in England) and Moeen Ali, who replaced Root, could not put bat to ball. So, the result in the second T20 may not have been any different even with incorrect decisions.

To cater to English sentiments, that umpire was replaced in the third T20. Kohli, who supposedly benefited in the second match threw his wicket away without scoring much. Then K L Rahul, when going great guns was dismissed off a no ball (not referred) and was wrongly sent to pavilion. Root (the supposedly would be match winner in the second match) was given all the opportunity to bat as long as possible in the third match. He was even given a life by Yuvraj/ Pant, but guess what, Root was unable to capitalise. The longer Root batted, the more pressure he put on the other batsmen and it is this pressure that caused this embarrassing procession of 8 wickets for 8 runs beginning with the dismissal of Morgan. These 8 wickets were of batsmen who were supposedly all destructive batsmen. Only a few hours ago, the commentator Nasser Hussain was boasting about the long batting line up of England. And it was a flat track, with Indian bowlers bowling with dew soaked ball. And England had the best use of conditions, because they had won the toss as well(as they had done almost in all the matches throughout the tour).

So, the excuse of umpiring error costing England the series win sounds very hollow indeed. Root caused batting collapse of his team in this match and to say that he would have caused England to win in the second match is wishful thinking.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Sam » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:13 am

squarecut wrote:To say that England lost because one Indian batsman was reprieved and one England batsman was not in the second T20 match is just whining. What is the guarantee that Root (the wrongly given out batsman in second T20 match) would have scored winning runs if he was not given out ? Buttler (considered the best T20 batsman in England) and Moeen Ali, who replaced Root, could not put bat to ball. So, the result in the second T20 may not have been any different even with incorrect decisions.

To cater to English sentiments, that umpire was replaced in the third T20. Kohli, who supposedly benefited in the second match threw his wicket away without scoring much. Then K L Rahul, when going great guns was dismissed off a no ball (not referred) and was wrongly sent to pavilion. Root (the supposedly would be match winner in the second match) was given all the opportunity to bat as long as possible in the third match. He was even given a life by Yuvraj/ Pant, but guess what, Root was unable to capitalise. The longer Root batted, the more pressure he put on the other batsmen and it is this pressure that caused this embarrassing procession of 8 wickets for 8 runs beginning with the dismissal of Morgan. These 8 wickets were of batsmen who were supposedly all destructive batsmen. Only a few hours ago, the commentator Nasser Hussain was boasting about the long batting line up of England. And it was a flat track, with Indian bowlers bowling with dew soaked ball. And England had the best use of conditions, because they had won the toss as well(as they had done almost in all the matches throughout the tour).

So, the excuse of umpiring error costing England the series win sounds very hollow indeed. Root caused batting collapse of his team in this match and to say that he would have caused England to win in the second match is wishful thinking.


He wasn't pulled out to cater for English sentiments, he told his colleagues he was too ill to be an on field umpire and was third umpire instead, clearly not up to the mental pressures that come with being an international umpire.

Funny that you mention Kohli throwing his wicket away in the last match given the ball he got run out on hit his pad and was going on to hit the stumps.

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Boycs » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:04 am

BoyCaught30 wrote:Kohli gone for two!

ITS ON


For fucks sake England!

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Boycs » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:06 am

afghankhan wrote:Congrats India.

England is a laughing stuck outside home.


Laughing stock in India maybe....

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Boycs » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:06 am

And Bangladesh

And Australia

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Boycs » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:06 am

And maybe the UAE

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Re: India vs England: ODI and T20 Series Jan-Feb, 2017 in India

Postby Going South » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:58 am

Ha