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Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Misty » Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:38 pm

Pakistan Test squad
Azhar Ali, Sami Aslam, Sharjeel Khan, Asad Shafiq, Younis Khan, Misbah-ul-Haq(c), Babar Azam, Sarfraz Ahmed, Mohammad Rizwan, Mohammad Nawaz, Yasir Shah, Mohammad Amir, Wahab Riaz, Sohail Khan, Rahat Ali, Imran Khan, Mohammad Asghar,

Australia Test squad
Steven Smith(c), David Warner, Jackson Bird, Peter Handscomb, Josh Hazlewood, Usman Khawaja, Ashton Agar, Nathan Lyon, Matt Renshaw, Mitchell Starc, Matthew Wade, Cartwright, Steve O'Keefe.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:51 am

My team from the squad of 13

Matt Renshaw
David Warner
Usman Khawaja
Steven Smith
Peter Handscomb
Matthew Wade
Ashton Agar
Mitchell Starc
Josh Hazlewood
Nathan Lyon
Jackson Bird
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:49 am

I think Hilton Cartwright may be a massive mistake as he seems to be another bits n pieces player rather than very good at either batting or bowling...or a genuine all-rounder (who should be at 7 or lower anyway)

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:14 am

Katto wrote:I think Hilton Cartwright may be a massive mistake as he seems to be another bits n pieces player rather than very good at either batting or bowling...or a genuine all-rounder (who should be at 7 or lower anyway)


fact is we don't have a world class allrounder, sooner the selectors relise that the better, Faulkner or Maxwell are the best of a bad crop.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:38 pm

Verity wrote:
Katto wrote:I think Hilton Cartwright may be a massive mistake as he seems to be another bits n pieces player rather than very good at either batting or bowling...or a genuine all-rounder (who should be at 7 or lower anyway)


fact is we don't have a world class allrounder, sooner the selectors relise that the better, Faulkner or Maxwell are the best of a bad crop.


yes and a specialist batsman should play at #6 otherwise we're just making the same mistake we made with Mitch Marsh

if he can bowl a bit thats a bonus

maybe this guy is a good batsman, I dont know, he seems to have been rushed in though based on a very small sample size of scores

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:29 am

Thats how uninterested i am about Test cricket I forgot this was on today.

Renshaw really does struggle to score.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:57 am

I love this side selected, a batsmen who bowls at 6 and 2 spinners, hope this is the XI for 1st Test in India
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:12 am

sounds good in theory

however when India lose at home its to good fast bowling

Australian spinners always have trouble with the right line and lengths for Indian conditions.
Also, what evidence do we have to suggest Cartright can bat well in such conditions?
Seems like Moises Henriques Mk II.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:22 am

Yasir Shah is a dustbowls specialist, his over rated, Effing shit
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:23 am

Katto wrote:sounds good in theory

however when India lose at home its to good fast bowling

Australian spinners always have trouble with the right line and lengths for Indian conditions.
Also, what evidence do we have to suggest Cartright can bat well in such conditions?
Seems like Moises Henriques Mk II.


0 evidence but all his grade statistics point too a quality batsmen.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:30 am

Yasir Shah is crap, absolute shit.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:57 am

Its an absolute carry on every time someone gets hit now, get up and play on you bunch of sooks.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:03 am

yep

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:03 am

Renshaw is like a Cook clone

hopefully that translates overseas

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:13 am

His hit that, I seen that live, this umpire is hopeless, same dickhead that gave Shah out LBW in the first Test. That is a woeful decision.

If I can see that live how cant that dickhead
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:24 am

Katto wrote:Renshaw is like a Cook clone

hopefully that translates overseas


Yea his solid and has a good head, my moneys on Renshaw to beat Tendulkars 15000 runs :lol:
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Boycs » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:39 am

Verity wrote:Thats how uninterested i am about Test cricket I forgot this was on today.

Renshaw really does struggle to score.


He's got to 167..... flat pitch?

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:09 am

BoyCaught30 wrote:
Verity wrote:Thats how uninterested i am about Test cricket I forgot this was on today.

Renshaw really does struggle to score.


He's got to 167..... flat pitch?


flat opposition

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Boycs » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:52 am

This Cartwright bloke seems to bowl a fair bit in his recent FC matches.....

Is that why he was picked? :P

Meanwhile Younis needs about 211 runs toget to 10,000. Go Younis Go!

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:57 am

BoyCaught30 wrote:This Cartwright bloke seems to bowl a fair bit in his recent FC matches.....

Is that why he was picked? :P

Meanwhile Younis needs about 211 runs toget to 10,000. Go Younis Go!


He averages 45 in FC cricket is why they picked him.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby GiantScrub » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:47 pm

Yasir has just been unreal bad this last six months. At least his game plan this test doesn't involve bowling long hops on leg stump. He needs some confidence, either drop him or make sure his next series is against Australia in the UAE or something.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:16 am

GiantScrub wrote:Yasir has just been unreal bad this last six months. At least his game plan this test doesn't involve bowling long hops on leg stump. He needs some confidence, either drop him or make sure his next series is against Australia in the UAE or something.


his Effing shit, has nothing on Ajmal.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:11 am

Saqlain was the best foreign spinner I've seen in Australian conditions

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby GiantScrub » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:49 pm

Bucketing down in Sydney right now, hope it clears by 10:30. There goes the reverse swing

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby raja » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:38 am

Hey, Scrub, good to see you here. I don't think I've seen you here recently.

Azhar and Younis were going so well - and then there was that stupid run-out.

It's over now.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:33 am

ARE THESE IDIOTS SERIOUS!!!!

TALK AROUND TOWN IS RENSHAW WONT PLAY IN INDIA AND SHAUN MARSH WILL!

Hope we lose 4-0 now.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:45 am

Verity wrote:ARE THESE IDIOTS SERIOUS!!!!

TALK AROUND TOWN IS RENSHAW WONT PLAY IN INDIA AND SHAUN MARSH WILL!

Hope we lose 4-0 now.


who is saying this?

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:13 am

Katto wrote:
Verity wrote:ARE THESE IDIOTS SERIOUS!!!!

TALK AROUND TOWN IS RENSHAW WONT PLAY IN INDIA AND SHAUN MARSH WILL!

Hope we lose 4-0 now.


who is saying this?


Rumours around
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:10 am

Wonder if they'd enforce follow on given bowlers have already had so much rest with rain delays etc

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:15 am

Doesn't look like Australia has enforced the follow-on. Their top four batsmen were charging off the field. Their quicks will get a bit of rest as a result. Not sure I'd have batted again considering the weather. But well, I'm not playing Test cricket for a reason.


I guess not :oops:

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:19 am

Katto wrote:Wonder if they'd enforce follow on given bowlers have already had so much rest with rain delays etc


Smiths a crap captain.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby raja » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:02 am

Absolute carnage at the SCG.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:08 am

What are they going to do wicket keeper wise?; Nevill has been dreadful in the Big Bash (3 Droppped catches and 1 missed stumping) and Wade is under the pump again. Personally I'd keep Wade but I don't think it'll happen.
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Postby TedWard » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:50 am

I assumed they picked Wade with the view that he plays spin better than the typical Aussie - and they will want him for the India tour.

Neither Wade or Nevill look like great long term options.

Renshaw vs SMarsh isnt that clear cut either - again because of SMarshes experience in India. Although I would probably prefer they kept Renshaw.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:54 am

Verity wrote:What are they going to do wicket keeper wise?; Nevill has been dreadful in the Big Bash (3 Droppped catches and 1 missed stumping) and Wade is under the pump again. Personally I'd keep Wade but I don't think it'll happen.


Handscombe :) :up:

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:55 am

TedWard wrote:I assumed they picked Wade with the view that he plays spin better than the typical Aussie - and they will want him for the India tour.

Neither Wade or Nevill look like great long term options.

Renshaw vs SMarsh isnt that clear cut either - again because of SMarshes experience in India. Although I would probably prefer they kept Renshaw.



I've seen zero evidence of this. Where do you get this crazy notion from?????????????!

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby raja » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:15 am

Aussies could've enforced the follow-on and finished this game, but probably wanted some batting practice.
I think we might just be able to save this.

For Misbah's sake, we should. He doesn't deserve to go out with a series whitewash to his name.
But I hope the draw comes through a spirited fightback and not due to the weather.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:17 am

we've had a lot of rain this summer

a few years ago we were told by some charlatans it would never rain again

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:11 pm

Katto wrote:
Verity wrote:What are they going to do wicket keeper wise?; Nevill has been dreadful in the Big Bash (3 Droppped catches and 1 missed stumping) and Wade is under the pump again. Personally I'd keep Wade but I don't think it'll happen.


Handscombe :) :up:


Is he any good at keeper?
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby TedWard » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:14 pm

Katto wrote:
TedWard wrote:I assumed they picked Wade with the view that he plays spin better than the typical Aussie - and they will want him for the India tour.

Neither Wade or Nevill look like great long term options.

Renshaw vs SMarsh isnt that clear cut either - again because of SMarshes experience in India. Although I would probably prefer they kept Renshaw.



I've seen zero evidence of this. Where do you get this crazy notion from?????????????!


The ODI series in Sri Lanka.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:23 pm

I think Yasir Shah has showed how over rated wrist spinners can get rated, if his the best spinner on this planet like they were saying I'll jump off a bridge. I'd select Nathan Lyon any day over him, his shit.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Misty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:47 pm

Touring team, while chasing, hardly reached 200 in the 4th innings at Sydney. only once, in 2006, host country Australia,successfully chased down 287 vs SOA

79 / 3

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Misty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:48 pm

Verity wrote:I think Yasir Shah has showed how over rated wrist spinners can get rated, if his the best spinner on this planet like they were saying I'll jump off a bridge. I'd select Nathan Lyon any day over him, his shit.


Do you think Lyon take as many wickets as Shah in Dubai,NO.First time Lyon doing good @Sydney.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Misty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:52 pm

So far O'Keefe not impressive hut yes he sends tight spell from one end but I never seen both spinner operating from either end.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:53 pm

Misty wrote:
Verity wrote:I think Yasir Shah has showed how over rated wrist spinners can get rated, if his the best spinner on this planet like they were saying I'll jump off a bridge. I'd select Nathan Lyon any day over him, his shit.


Do you think Lyon take as many wickets as Shah in Dubai,NO.First time Lyon doing good @Sydney.


Shah is only good on dust bowls, Lyon is decent every where.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Misty » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:59 pm

9977 runs, he just dismissed by Lyon, big wicket for Lyon because Younus considered one of best vs Spinner plus he scored 5 test century in the 4 th innings of test.3 wickets in first hours.

4 down and nightwatch men still there.

Yesterday he says Pakistan can win this test.he should digs in to get 23 more for 10000 than out playing bad shot.
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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Katto » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:44 am

Verity wrote:
Katto wrote:
Handscombe :) :up:


Is he any good at keeper?


he's kept in this match when Wade was pooping his pants, did ok

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Going South » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:18 am

I hate to follow sad chases that end in an inevitable loss. Even sadder if it somehow turn into a draw !!!

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Misty » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:29 am

Going South wrote:I hate to follow sad chases that end in an inevitable loss. Even sadder if it somehow turn into a draw !!!

Not long ago they were number 1 but after vs NZ defeats slips to number 4, by tonight they will slips further to number 6 or lower because 3/0 near corner. PCB starving to arrange more test but no one interested other than t20 with them.

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Re: Australia vs Pakistan: 3rd Test; Jan 3-7, 2017 at Sydney

Postby Verity » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:30 am

I think we are a huge chance in India, hoping they play this exact same XI come the first Test.
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