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Postby Going South » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:48 pm

Udta Punjab: Your job is to certify, not censor, Bombay HC tells CBFC Pahlaj

The Udta Punjab controversy has reached the Bombay High Court now. The Abhishek Chaubey-directed film was not given a certificate by the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) till the changes suggested by them were made. Headed by Pahlaj Nihalani, the Censor Board asked for more than 89 cuts in Udta Punjab, in addition to ordering the word 'Punjab' be removed from the title of the film.

This, however, did not go down all too well with the producers of the film. Anurag Kashyap, who is producing the film along with Ekta Kapoor's Balaji Films, took to Twitter to voice his displeasure regarding the same. After a fashion, the case reached the Bombay High Court.

At the hearing in the Bombay High Court on Friday (June 10), Justice SC Dharmadhikari asked the CBFC to explain their reasons to not give Udta Punjab a certificate. "Give the film a certificate, what is the need for cuts?" he asked.

The CBFC tried clearing its stand by saying that most of Udta Punjab is in Punjabi, while the film is touted to be a Hindi one. To which, Dharmadhikari's answer was, "Are you saying you ordered cuts without understanding?"

"Have you done your job taking them (the film team) into confidence, telling them that just using expletives will not help run the film? This is not going to work. The generations to come will not be impressed with this. The generation now is taking more time to mature. Tell them to make content which is more watchable," said Dharmadhikari.

The CBFC had a problem with the content of Udta Punjab. The film tries to bring on screen the menace of drug abuse among youngsters in Punjab. The board ordered numerous cuts in the film, demanded the word 'Punjab' be removed from the title, in addition to dropping every reference of Punjab in the film whatsoever. The CBFC was asked to justify its suggestion for the cuts in the film.

"Audiences are direct and open today. People born after 1980 are very mature. So why are you worried? For action to be taken you need to provoke. Multiplex audiences are discerning. How can you decide which word is right or wrong? Film industry is not made of glass that you need to "handle with care." If you ask for so many cuts why is the point? Audience knows," said Dharmadhikari.

The bottom-line of the case, pointed out Dharmadhikari, was whether or not Udta Punjab glorifies the usage of drugs. When CBFC answered in the affirmative, they were counter-questioned as to why they hadn't banned the film in that case.

"CBFC should only certify, not censor. The public is the biggest censor. CBFC doesn't need to censor," the judge reiterated.

The final verdict in the Udta Punjab case is to be given on Monday (June 13). The film, which stars Shahid Kapoor, Alia Bhatt, Kareena Kapoor Khan and Diljit Dosanjh in pivotal roles, is scheduled for a June 17 release.

Over the last few days, the Udta Punjab issue has seen several twists and turns, including a nasty war of words between producer Anurag Kashyap and CBFC choef Pahlaj Nihalani. While the latter claimed that the Udta Punjab makers had taken money from Aam Aadmi Party to show Shiromoni Akali Dal (SAD)-BJP-led Punjab in a poor light, the Indian Film and Television Directors' Association held a press conference to demand an apology from Nihalani for the comment.

While the battle rages on, it is yet to be seen whether Udta Punjab receives a certificate and is able to be released on its scheduled date.

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Re: Udta Punjab

Postby Going South » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:49 pm

Kudos to the judge.
Right question:
What's your job? Do your job.

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Postby Going South » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:52 pm

The joke is that those who want to cut 88 Punjabi offensive words don't know Punjabi ! Remove the word Punjab from title & everywhere???? How is that offensive? :wtf:

Satire:
http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2016/06/0 ... pop-songs/

http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2016/06/1 ... abs-story/

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Postby raja » Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:28 pm

Maybe it is high time we just closed down CBFC.
Or remind it, like a judge did today, that it is supposed to be certification, not censorship.
If you want, give a film an A certificate.
Leave it at that. No cutting of scenes.

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Postby Going South » Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:34 pm

Or just outright ban offensive movies that are against India or Indian culture.

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Postby Misty » Sun Jun 12, 2016 8:55 am

other movies get certificate even they showing open x rated clips.[ Gabbar back and RGV'S single X is xx movie still he get certificate ]
some people suggest change film name from U.P TO UDTA only
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Postby raja » Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:57 pm

Going South wrote:Or just outright ban offensive movies that are against India or Indian culture.

And who decides that?

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Postby Going South » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:15 pm

Censor board can put a stop and put the movie on hold till courts think otherwise. They are the first line of defense on terror propaganda or movies or that hurt religious sentiments (?)

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Postby raja » Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:50 pm

Going South wrote:Censor board can put a stop and put the movie on hold till courts think otherwise. They are the first line of defense on terror propaganda or movies or that hurt religious sentiments (?)

Nice in theory but then you could also get into this Udta Punjab type situation.

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Postby Misty » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:53 pm

Probably AASHA PAREKH STILL IN CHARGE OF CENSOR BOARD.she is very stric
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Postby Going South » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:38 pm

I say the director of udta Punjab has gone overboard on drugs usage and vulgarity on this movie. It sure shows state of Punjab in a very bad light. A person from south would now think twice if he got plans to visit Punjab far from truth? Bad for tourism. Elected governments would topple if it cause unrest & promote violence. You can't protest this movie, but protect it as if it's national treasure not national trash? Is India free world like the west when it comes to freedom of expression? I have to say no, as both government and society need to go a long way before doors are fully open.

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Re: Udta Punjab

Postby raja » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:04 pm

If movie is showing truth of Punjab (and there's absolutely no doubt drugs are widespread amongst youth in the state), what's wrong?
Rather than do window-dressing and censor the truth, govt should work on fixing the underlying problem, no?

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Postby Going South » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:32 pm

Every state of India has drug problem. If you rank all states of India I don't think Punjab rank #1 but might not be in top 10, not ahead of Maharashtra or UP for sure.

Problem is there. But not as much as the movie trying to say. When you add fiction to 1% fact it would be mud slinging with ulterior motive.
Is the movie financed by Punjab opposition party? Is it congress party backed?

Till Bombay velvet he is sane but after it Anurag completely lost his marbles and embraced lunacy. Why is the director trying to go overboard trying to add fiction to facts? What is his goal? Is it just for making money or something else? Why put name "Punjab" in the title? Why not generalize the concept for whole India instead of just Punjab?

Does he have plans for next movie as "udta Uttar Pradesh" or "udta Bihar" ??? No? Why Punjab? If his intentions are sincere why all the BS in media & cheap publicity gimmicks? I have no sympathy on those who play on emotions to make money out of serious issues that plague humanity be it drugs or terrorists. Everyone including government and public alike should reject this movie to teach a lesson just like ramgopal Varma to join in the dustbins of Bollywood.

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Re: Udta Punjab

Postby raja » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:57 pm

Going South wrote:Every state of India has drug problem. If you rank all states of India I don't think Punjab rank #1 but might not be in top 10, not ahead of Maharashtra or UP for sure.


Not sure how familiar you are with the drug problem in Punjab but speak to families who live in Punjab, they will tell you.
Punjab was once the No.1 grain bowl of India, if you remember.
Very prosperous state at the time.
Today, it's in tatters. I visited a few years ago - I was shocked to see the condition of the state. More so, the people.
I know people who live there, they are scared for their youngsters.
Most of them point to drugs being brought from across the border, quite freely. And distributed quite freely too.

Here's a recent article that might help in understanding the scale of the problem more.

http://indianexpress.com/article/blogs/ ... g-2846678/

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Postby Going South » Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:44 pm

Did the director showed guts to say that it's cross border terrorism as in its pakistani government that promote drugs in Punjab? No? Then he had no right to make a film that can distort ground reality and points finger else where for political mileage in a cheap & disgusting way.

On another note, someone else like me pointed a finger at Bombay court on cutting that single scene of urination. He got a point here. ;)

http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2016/06/1 ... ta-punjab/

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Postby raja » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:15 pm

Going South wrote:Did the director showed guts to say that it's cross border terrorism as in its pakistani government that promote drugs in Punjab? No? Then he had no right to make a film that can distort ground reality and points finger else where for political mileage in a cheap & disgusting way.

On another note, someone else like me pointed a finger at Bombay court on cutting that single scene of urination. He got a point here. ;)

http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2016/06/1 ... ta-punjab/


Since I haven't seen the film, or read any review, I cannot comment on whether the director has shown cross border drug supply. In fact, I cannot comment on the film at all. All I can say is, any attempt to stifle/curtail a creative piece of work should be taken with great caution and restraint.

As for the urination scene, I couldn't care less. Come on, people are adults - everyone pees.

Go out on the streets of India, you will find people peeing.

But hey, we are such hypocrites that we cannot show it in a movie.

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Re: Udta Punjab

Postby raja » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:24 pm

Ok, here's what the High Court said.
Clearly Pahlaj Nihalani has grossly misused his power.

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Press Trust of India ‏@PTI_News 4h4 hours ago
We don't find anything in the film that shows Punjab in bad light or affects the sovereignty or integrity of India as claimed by CBFC: HC.

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Postby Going South » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:47 pm

I am totally with you on idiocy of cutting pissing scene. Delhi belly movie passed sensors with a lot of shit, but piss on piss?
Nihalani should go. He is no saint either as he himself made even vulgar/obscene movies earlier why act now as all holy thou? Kick his ass out indeed!

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Postby Going South » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:06 pm

Entire movie got leaked on Internet before its release. The astonishing thing is that the leaked print has "for censorship" watermark on it. Looks like angry censor board that got pulled pants by courts exacted revenge on this movie? Oh man!

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Re: Udta Punjab

Postby raja » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:28 pm

This is shameful behaviour.
Not enough to just sack Nihalani.
There must be some provision in the law to take action in such situations, no?
Like jail for 3 months at least.

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Re: Udta Punjab

Postby Misty » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:31 am

raja wrote:Ok, here's what the High Court said.
Clearly Pahlaj Nihalani has grossly misused his power.

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Press Trust of India ‏@PTI_News 4h4 hours ago
We don't find anything in the film that shows Punjab in bad light or affects the sovereignty or integrity of India as claimed by CBFC: HC.

Movie available on pendrive at most intersection for 450 rupees in Ahmedabad and most Gujrat.
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Postby Misty » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:43 am

I would rather buy kishore/lata 1200 duets for 450 than some Udta subject film, so I can listen in my car, smart TV (USB slot )and my FM radio Equipped with USB slot
James bond latest movie or latest Gujarati comedy play on Pendrive you can buy from some shop in Gujarat :dance:

I hand over blank 64GB pendrive to some shop and for 30 rupees they will Download Sultan film same day whenever its release in Pakistan , no one knows but ALL BRAND NEW MOVIE RELEASE (PRIVATELY) IN PAKISTAN FIRST than in Indian theater.
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Postby Going South » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:36 am

What was the ticket price in theaters? Is it way less than 450? Then what's point in copying to pen drive? You lose theater effects. The point is that it's Freely available online !!!

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Postby raja » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:54 pm

The point here is not just that the film is available for download. Loads of films are.

The point is that the film was available for download BEFORE its release date. Not the same day, but BEFORE the date.

That too, a copy given to the Censors, meant to be used only for Censor purposes, not for distribution.

THIS is the issue.

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Postby Going South » Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:07 pm

Cable operator airs censor copy of ‘Udta Punjab’

A cable television operator here allegedly aired a ‘censor copy’ of ‘Udta Punjab,’ ahead of its release in cinema theatres.

Collector P. Jawahar said, “We have taken cognisance of the complaint that surfaced on social media and we will initiate action against the cable operator under Cable Television Networks (Regulation) Act.”

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According to sources, a local cable channel Shakthi TV reportedly telecast the full film through its network and what is worse, the film carried the watermark of ‘For Censor’. The issue came to the fore with actor Surya and several others raising it on the social media.

Tweet

Mr. Surya tweeted along with a picture on Thursday: “Fight against Piracy!!Spread awareness that it's a crime!! Yet to release film”.

As per rule 6 (6) of the Cable Television Networks (Amendment) Rules 2006, no cable operator shall carry or include in his cable service any television broadcast or channel, which has not been registered by the Centre, for viewing within the territory of India.

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Postby Misty » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:23 am

UDTA Punjab is good film
everyone should watch once, I watch half film on tv so I
bought pendrive [ 64 GB] and watch full film
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Postby Misty » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:41 am

Drug smuggling from Muslim country in India possible from Bangladesh border.No wonder why Indian officer involves in Smuggling and supports the Smuggler because they get 10 percentage or more commission

Driver or sewage workers salary in India are 7000 net pay rupees per mos.
Ordinary clerk or officer making 5000 rupees @ month.

So naturally bank manager or people in white color job always doing
Something under the table to fix for money.(I knows in bank (gov't ) manager
And officer (clerk ) get same money

So 59.4 % Corruption happen in India.Every time Gov't.claims to stops
Drug related news more than DBL happen next day.

Only 29 % drugs caught everyday but how about other Drugs which enters
From Gujarat and other location of India?

Disco Den caught in Rajasthan yesterday were young teens dancing on
Latest tune in 3/4 nude and enjoyed Hashish (smoked )
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Postby Misty » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:09 am

Going South wrote:Cable operator airs censor copy of ‘Udta Punjab’

A cable television operator here allegedly aired a ‘censor copy’ of ‘Udta Punjab,’ ahead of its release in cinema theatres.

Collector P. Jawahar said, “We have taken cognisance of the complaint that surfaced on social media and we will initiate action against the cable operator under Cable Television Networks (Regulation) Act.”

Watermark

According to sources, a local cable channel Shakthi TV reportedly telecast the full film through its network and what is worse, the film carried the watermark of ‘For Censor’. The issue came to the fore with actor Surya and several others raising it on the social media.

Tweet

Mr. Surya tweeted along with a picture on Thursday: “Fight against Piracy!!Spread awareness that it's a crime!! Yet to release film”.

As per rule 6 (6) of the Cable Television Networks (Amendment) Rules 2006, no cable operator shall carry or include in his cable service any television broadcast or channel, which has not been registered by the Centre, for viewing within the territory of India.

--thehindu

forget about cable operator
Fake money can do lots of other things with ease
for real 35000 indian rupees you can buy 100,000 Fake rupees.New Technology not see the differences more.i lived in small city of Gujrat state and in shopping center they DO NOT ACCEPT 1000 RUPEES AND 500 RUPEES BILL without recording number, most time they not accepts and demand for 100 rupees bill.[ those are not fake ]

everyday 100000 fake currency enter in indian market, more than Dbl of 100000 caught on Bangladesh and Pakistan border but no one yet reaches from where they produce it.
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Postby Misty » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:15 am

RF
CABLE OPERATOR

not only cable operator but if you spends only 50 usa cent =30 indian rupees.
you can own udta Punjab in gujrat

you need to drops off blank pendrive [ must be 64 GB] at video den and same day they record and hand over for you
you can ask any old new they can do.

why need to buy ticket online ?
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