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Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 2:04 pm

Fixture

1st T20I: 31 Oct, 2018 (Sheikh Zayed Stadium)
2nd T20I: 2 Nov, 2018 (Dubai International Stadium)
3rd T20I: 4 Nov, 2018 (Dubai International Stadium)

1st ODI: 7 Nov, 2018 (Sheikh Zayed Stadium)
2nd ODI: 9 Nov, 2018 (Sheikh Zayed Stadium)
3rd ODI: 11 Nov, 2018 (Dubai International Stadium)

1st Test: 16-20 Nov, 2018 (Sheikh Zayed Stadium)
2nd Test: 24-28 Nov, 2018 (Dubai International )
3rd Test: 03-07 Dec, 2018 (Sheikh Zayed Stadium)
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby raja » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:44 pm

Good!
Been a while since we've seen NZ in action.

Seth Rance is a new name for me.

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:47 pm

raja wrote:Good!
Been a while since we've seen NZ in action.

Seth Rance is a new name for me.


Rance was terrible last season against Pakistan (his stats are inflated from bowling to WI batsmen).

Please tell me Boult is meant to be in the T20i squad givemeahug?

Watling in the ODI squad seems myopic. He is a slow accumulator, and Latham has been doing fine with the gloves. Latham needs the gloves to stay in the team as far as I am concerned. I think it really says that NZ is out of spare batsmen, so if any one regular gets injured, there's a problem. England I expect will have road pitches everywhere for the WC. Seifert and Phillips both would make more sense than Watling if NZ is resorting to WK as batsmen now.

The t20 and ODI team look weaker to me with no Santner and Guptill - who are really as or close to important to NZC success as Ross (odi and test not t20), and Boult - even KW. These 5 are the core to the NZ ODI team. Missing two of them is a huge blow.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:54 pm

Guptill out with injury but he is sure he will back for test series in NZ, he wants to play for NZ in test against all odds as opener

Glen Phillips likely to be replace ( good cpl) but not official announcement by NZ yet

Phillips is opener for on-going nZ A series in Dubai
So NZ waiting his progress
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:00 am

Yesterday Ferguson took 4 wickets but I think NZ A lost by one wicket because Beek gave 58 for his 2 wickets vs Pakistan A were m.Rizwan ( Pak -sub keeper) hits 105*

My interest in Phillips for rest of series by NZ A
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:00 am

givemeahug786 wrote:Guptill out with injury but he is sure he will back for test series in NZ, he wants to play for NZ in test against all odds as opener

Glen Phillips likely to be replace ( good cpl) but not official announcement by NZ yet

Phillips is opener for on-going nZ A series in Dubai
So NZ waiting his progress


Phillips isn't keeping in that team, though Seifert is - but Phillips has 2 50's and 2 failures.

He will be in a head to head race with G Worker.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/newzealand/ ... 77911.html

I do not rate Worker, he only plays square (and he's slow scoring too).

His good numbers are from playing weak teams, so far imo.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:03 am

givemeahug786 wrote:Yesterday Ferguson took 4 wickets but I think NZ A lost by one wicket because Beek gave 58 for his 2 wickets vs Pakistan A were m.Rizwan ( Pak -sub keeper) hits 105*

My interest in Phillips for rest of series by NZ A


Ferguson is fast - can get it upto over 150 often and repeteadly in his first spell. His later spells are slower, though.

Phillips is a work in progress. Some people rate him highly in NZ, some suspect he is nothing more than a flat track bully.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:50 am

Yes latest news :

Phillips with 126 runs in Dubai vs Pak A (3 game) for NzA included in Newzeland T20i team.Cory Anderson also selected
(I will add in subject if CF not lock thread)

Phillips deserved with 457 CPL runs plus he can keep wicket
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:38 am

givemeahug786 wrote:Yes latest news :

Phillips with 126 runs in Dubai vs Pak A (3 game) for NzA included in Newzeland T20i team.Cory Anderson also selected
(I will add in subject if CF not lock thread)

Phillips deserved with 457 CPL runs plus he can keep wicket


Yeah, Philips deserves it. Agreed. So does Corey if he has finally bending (post surgery) his back bowling.

Kane Williamson (c), Corey Anderson, Mark Chapman, Colin de Grandhomme, Lockie Ferguson, Adam Milne, Colin Munro, Glenn Phillips, Seth Rance, Tim Seifert, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee, Ross Taylor,

1 Munro (7)
2 Philips (+ if Seifert misses out)
3 KW
4 Ross
5 Corey (6) / Chapman
6 Seifert (+) / Chapman
7 CdG (5)
8 Southee (1)
9 Lockie (2)
10Sodhi (4)
11 Rance/Milne (3)

The batting looks very weak. Santner, Astle, Guptill all would have helped with this. Chapman at 5 and Corey at 7 and dropping CdG is possible, (or vice versa) but I am not sure how much it would really add on recent form. And I worry about the bowling.

Clearly a trial for the bowlers with no Boult despite being fit.
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At the toss Faf said to Finch that you lads can bat - Finch replied "no, no we can't-we really can't".

Finch then saw Travis Head and Darcy Short start put on sun screen and said "Getting a bit optimistic aren't you?"

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Leo » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:15 am

Good Luck New Zealand.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:37 am

Will Young with scores of 40, 40 and currently 134* - take start giving this guy opportunities over Watling please. Just give Nicholls the back up keeper job. Please, please, please.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:59 am

Can not wait long first game this month

New Zealand's 3- T20I team vs Pakistan in UAE
Kane Williamson (c), Adam Milne, Colin de Grandhomme, Colin Munro, Ish Sodhi, Lockie Ferguson, Mark Chapman,Glen Phillips Ross Taylor, Seth Rance, Tim Seifert, Tim Southee


Pakistan 3 t20i teams :

Pakistan name unchanged T20i squad for Newzeland
Pakistan t20i Squad - Fakhar Zaman, Mohammad Hafeez, Sahibzada Farhan, Babar Azam, Shoaib Malik, Asif Ali, Hussain Tallat, Sarfraz Ahmed ( c ), Shadab Khan, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Usman Khan Shanwari, Hassan Ali, Imad Wasim, Waqas Maqsood, Faheem Ashraf
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:09 am

givemeahug786 wrote:Can not wait long first game this month in oct

New Zealand's 3- T20I team vs Pakistan in UAE
Kane Williamson (c), Adam Milne, Colin de Grandhomme, Colin Munro, Ish Sodhi, Lockie Ferguson, Mark Chapman,Glen Phillips Ross Taylor, Seth Rance, Tim Seifert, Tim Southee

New Zealand's 3-ODI team vs Pakistan in UAE
Kane Williamson (captain), BJ Watling, Colin de Grandhomme, Colin Munro,Henry Nicholls, Ish Sodhi, Glen Phillips, Matt Henry, Ross Taylor, Tim Southee, Todd Astle, Tom Latham, Trent Boult,

New Zealand's 3- Test team vs Pakistan in UAE
Kane Williamson (c), Ajaz Patel, BJ Watling, Colin de Grandhomme, Henry Nicholls, Ish Sodhi, Jeet Raval, Matt Henry, Neil Wagner, Ross Taylor, Tim Southee, Todd Astle, Tom Blundell,Tom Latham, Trent Boult





Watling in the ODI team is just wrong. He scores too slow to fit the WC profile in England. Phillips - well, he had been doing so well, but with 3 ducks in a row for the A team, his selection is questionable. All Chapman has done is fail at intl level. At domestic level - he has serious chops. But he has not found stepping upto international quality as easy as many NZC fans were hoping for. Sodhi - a good limited overs bowler - is weak in the field but is improving with the bat. Astle is the one to watch. Has been for years, and he is well into his thirties now.

NZ will struggle with no Santner or Guptill. They really are lynchpins to NZC success in limited overs. Guptill's fielding as well as his obvious batting talent - turns many matches. Santner's late order hitting and his parsimonious bowling has yielded NZ many victories over more fancied opposition.

I would not be surprised at all if Pakistan launch an ambush against NZ and defeat NZ in the limited overs games. This tour, given all the injuries, for me is more about the test matches. I know most cricket fans have that opinion typically - but I really love limited overs cricket as well.

Guptill is good for a single handed win 1 game in 5. With contributions in between. He is very underrated in game effectiveness. He has not been replaced in any way by Phillips or Watling. In fact - I just do not get what the selectors are doing. Phillips has some talent, the CPL proves this where he shone, but after 3 ducks, is it simply hopeful thinking that he will shine in this tour? Perhaps he might, but I have no expectations of it. Maybe he is due. He did smash Pak A in the t20 with 2 50's in 3 games. But Watling's selection is still a problem for me.

So who opens for NZ? Munro and...? Phillips? Or Latham with Watling in later? Or Watling to open? This is seriously problematic for NZ. KW and Taylor may pull NZ out of the fire (maybe Munro goes on a blitzkrieg), but the fire is already lit.

I would have given Will Young a go over Watling. Will Young is someone whose talent has been identified since very young, where conversion of 50's to 100's was his sole problem. He has shown good form on this tour, and years ago it was him vs Nicholls for next in line in the NZC team. He lost that race, but perhaps now it should have been his turn to show-class his wares.

Anyway - looking forward to Toddy Astle in the ODI and tests. Time to shine Toddy. :-) You have my support, you have had for it quite some time in tests, please don't let me down Toddy. :D

The test team has no injury excuses as I would have played Astle over Santner anyday of the week. Time to win a test series away lads. You can do this. :-)
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:47 pm

Phillips and Seifert both played for NZ against the UAE. Munro, Taylor, Chapman, CdG and KW. rounding out the top 7.

Milne at 8, Sodhi at 9, Rance played as did Sodhi.

Rance was smacked around, Milne a tad expensive, the rest of the bowlers did well, a rarity for CdG these days, but apparently the pitches are slow, and CdG likes slow pitches as he gets nibble.

Interesting to note, KW bowled himself as the second spinner. I applaud him doing this, 2 overs for 4 runs and a wicket. Very tidy. Munro did well too.

NZ has plenty of bowling options in the field - despite the two wicket keepers playing. Seifert and Phillips both made runs too.

With Phillips, Seifert, Chapman - this is a very inexperienced batting lineup - and CdG and Munro are not there to offer stability but to blast 6's.

I expect a very interesting series. NZ are not clear cut favourites here this time.

Someone needs to explain this Seth Rance selection to me. I do not get it at all. There are so many superior bowlers to him in and around the NZ set up.
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Finch then saw Travis Head and Darcy Short start put on sun screen and said "Getting a bit optimistic aren't you?"

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:47 am

A very Bankable Babar : 4 score of 50 in last 5 t20i innings, he is not Flashy but very organise,orthodox,72.83 average in 2018.

Munro I can count to- night I think nZ far more better t20i sides than most others.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:10 am

givemeahug786 wrote:A very Bankable Babar : 4 score of 50 in last 5 t20i innings, he is not Flashy but very organise,orthodox,72.83 average in 2018.

Munro I can count to- night I think nZ far more better t20i sides than most others.


At full strength - NZ is good in any limited overs format. But without Guppie and Santner, it is a different story.

They're 2 of NZC's very best limited overs players. Basically irreplaceable. (Santner brings so much more as a limited overs cricketer than Sodhi - who would have been playing anway, so now its Toddy and Ajaz).
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby raja » Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:17 pm

The action starts today.
We should win this comfortably.
Had this been in NZ, I might have given the Kiwis a chance.
But here, in the UAE, where our players now know the conditions like the back of their hand, I'll be surprised if NZ win even one game on this tour of theirs.

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:55 pm

Poor start to chase here by NZ.

Nice to see Milne have a good return and Ajaz debut well.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:13 pm

100 from 13 overs is gettable.

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Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:38 pm

WTH. 3 quick wickets ?

doom is on. tsk tsk.

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:39 pm

Taylor hangs cdg out to dry with a blind call run out.
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Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:39 pm

grandhomme proved to the world again that he is an IDIOT.

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:51 pm

CdG didnt call the run. Taylor did.

Taylor spudding out here as is Corey.

Taylor 8(9) corey 7(8)
Rrr nearly 12. Potatoes.
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Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:57 pm

37 from 3 overs needed. gettable

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Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:58 pm

cdg can always say no for the run as he can see better than taylor.

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:01 pm

anderson gets assistance from umpires. well well. that’s legit out not given.

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Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:02 pm

26 needed from last 2 overs.

i see a screw up. big time. ;)

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:04 pm

Going South wrote:anderson gets assistance from umpires. well well. that’s legit out not given.


The lbw? Hit the bat.

Corey 9(12) - ugh.

Munro set the chase up - and its been butchered.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:06 pm

Going South wrote:cdg can always say no for the run as he can see better than taylor.


Snr batsmen. Ross used to run KW out.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:08 pm

duck.

17 needed from last over.

i doubt taylor can make it. he is no dhoni.

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:08 pm

17(6) - awful chase.

Taylor and Anderson started far too casually and its out of their reach now.

Spuds.
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Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:13 pm

11 from 3 balls.

hit the damn six

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:14 pm

game over.

why can’t they hit any 6???

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:15 pm

I loathe take it deep tactics - loses more than it wins.

Useless NZC. Taylor and Anderson - awful start to partnership.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:18 pm

KW as well 11(16). Play with hussle chaps.
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Going South » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:21 pm

only munro hit a 6 from NZ side. 5 players from pakistan hit sixers. they are vital for T20. NZ after awesome start from munro played tuk tuk test cricket.

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:46 pm

Going South wrote:only munro hit a 6 from NZ side. 5 players from pakistan hit sixers. they are vital for T20. NZ after awesome start from munro played tuk tuk test cricket.


Yeah :-(
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:29 pm

givemeahug786 wrote:
Glen, Milne,Southee and Anderson took wonderful catches,i wish NZ enter in WC Semi.I think NZ gave 12 runs more here when tim & Sodhi Fumble.

NZ need 149 to win
11 pm in India
too late.


Momentum very important in this format,Munro and Taylor batted great
But like I say 12 runs too many given by NZ team, anyway better chance tomorrow.series will be over on Nov 04.Hafeez M.O.M
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:34 am

givemeahug786 wrote:
givemeahug786 wrote:
Glen, Milne,Southee and Anderson took wonderful catches,i wish NZ enter in WC Semi.I think NZ gave 12 runs more here when tim & Sodhi Fumble.

NZ need 149 to win
11 pm in India
too late.


Momentum very important in this format,Munro and Taylor batted great
But like I say 12 runs too many given by NZ team, anyway better chance tomorrow.series will be over on Nov 04.Hafeez M.O.M


Taylor did NOT bat great. The scorecard misleads you. He started SLOWWWWWWW, and let the run rate get beyond successful chase levels. Losing by 2 runs or 20 makes little difference as a loss is a loss. When Taylor started batting, the RRR was UNDER 9. He then promptly ran CdG out, crawled his way to 8(9) and saw the RRR balloon to 11.5 on a slow tricky pitch. It was at that point I anticipated a NZC loss.

It was dumb batting at the highest level.

Sure he ended up with 42*(26) which looks great - but he was a massive contributor to the loss as the game was already beyond NZ when he started to up the ante. Slow starts in t20, especially in the middle order during a chase, are a huge bugbear of mine. Taking it deep, even more so on a tricky wicket, is counter intuitive.

This is why Ross was previously dropped from the T20i side. He starts too slow, he's a fantastic talented batsmen, and has played many amazing test and ODI innings. But his slow starts in t20, when he bats in the middle order, is a major impediment to victory.

KW suffered the same fault this game, but at least he was batting higher up the order.

The middle order just coasted off Munro's momentum and suffocated the entire innings by "taking it deep". It was not entertaining to watch as a NZC fan.

To me - sometimes it just seems selfish to take games deep. And I believe that KW is as far from selfish as a star cricketer could possibly ever get. But it just seems selfish at times.

Now Phillips with 12 (15) - was actually smashing the ball. He just kept hitting fielders. I have no issue with his performance in terms of his intent to win or execute (he just needs more skill and development).

CdG sacrificed his wicket for Taylor, the senior batsmen, so I will hardly call him selfish. I understand the plan of listing him at 4, but against these high quality spinners on slow UaE tracks - I question the merits in the particular circumstances of the games he will find himself in over there.

The end of the day, what is damn obvious is NZ's lack of batsmen. Only KW and Taylor could be called specialist batsmen. Phillips and Seifert are keepers, and Munro bowls more for NZC than Corey Anderson (who bowled no overs) and often CdG. Guptill's absence reveals the problem far more in that the selectors do not trust Chapman with the responsibility.


CdG is not a #4 batsman, and Southee is not a #8. The batting is light. Especially with 2 wicket keepers in the top 7. And Anderson is playing as a specialist batsman - this all spells trouble for NZC's batting depth in t20.

Maybe Munro will blast back to back centuries in the next two games and snag NZ a series win.
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Finch then saw Travis Head and Darcy Short start put on sun screen and said "Getting a bit optimistic aren't you?"

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby raja » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:50 am

Much closer than I expected it to be.
After doing a terrific job of restricting Pakistan, NZ will be disappointed they couldn't cross the line.

Was expecting us to thrash the Kiwis in the series, might just need to revise that.
Hope the other games are close too.
The fun is in the closeness of a contest.
What's the fun in one team thrashing the other?

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:01 am

raja wrote:Much closer than I expected it to be.
After doing a terrific job of restricting Pakistan, NZ will be disappointed they couldn't cross the line.

Was expecting us to thrash the Kiwis in the series, might just need to revise that.
Hope the other games are close too.
The fun is in the closeness of a contest.
What's the fun in one team thrashing the other?

As Dominic Toretto said "losing is losing, lose by by an inch, lose by a mile"
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Going South » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:39 am

Embarrassed PCB Launches an Inquiry Into Biscuit Trophy Fiasco

Before the T20I series against Australia, the Pakistan Cricket Board on Wednesday launched an inquiry into the fiasco.

Social media was flooded with jokes ridiculing the PCB after a biscuit-shaped trophy was unveiled for the series earlier this month that Pakistan won 3-0.

"The silverware was an embarrassment for us and investigation is being held as to how the concerned department allowed this to happen," a PCB official said on condition of anonymity.

Another source said the head of PCB's marketing department, Naila Bhatti, has now resigned.

"The PCB is subsequently planning a revamp in its marketing department," he said.

The silverware for the T20I series was trolled across social media platforms, and the International Cricket Council (ICC) added fuel to the fire by comparing it with the Champions Trophy silverware.

The source said the Board has ordered the inquiry into the functioning of its marketing department, which currently has 13 members.

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:50 pm

Explosive Chapman may line up for selection in NZ team to night, to bost their chances.,crucbuzz says

Pakistan who bats first winning 7th successive t20i
Here, if they win today, it will be their 11th series win
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:42 am

Chapman has done nothing but disappoint in the NZC team shirt.

He was the domestic star last season, got his call up - and flat out sucked.

His promising odi numbers are from when he played for Hong Kong against further associate teams.

His numbers for NZ are horrid. He averaged 3 in 3 games.

Anyway - I don't expect much from him. He's talented, but very raw still.
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Finch then saw Travis Head and Darcy Short start put on sun screen and said "Getting a bit optimistic aren't you?"

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:18 am

If pak win toss they will win because 65.07% NZ'ers will struggle to negotiate spin - -/Ground wise."

They know if they bats FIRST they win
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:46 am

givemeahug786 wrote:If pak win toss they will win because 65.07% NZ'ers will struggle to negotiate spin - -/Ground wise."

They know if they bats FIRST they win


Given KW won the orange cap at the IPL and Munro averages over 100 against finger spin in t20 (less against leg spin) - I do not think this is really the case.

What NZ is lacking - is Santner. If NZ could play Santner, Sodhi and Patel - all 3 - they'd suffocate Pakistan out of the match.

I think you need a refresher of the 2016 World T20 ;-)
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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Going South » Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:37 pm

ROFL@M.Amir exclusion. Some fan boys like raja would be upset. They projected him to be one of the all time greatest bowlers that break all bowling records with “superlative” praise. ;)

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:43 pm

Paddles wrote:Chapman has done nothing but disappoint in the NZC team shirt.

He was the domestic star last season, got his call up - and flat out sucked.

His promising odi numbers are from when he played for Hong Kong against further associate teams.

His numbers for NZ are horrid. He averaged 3 in 3 games.

Anyway - I don't expect much from him. He's talented, but very raw still.


Anyway but every nation learn from Us( India) to sends second string of team ( eng Lion, India A, nZ A ,etc) in the same country ( team has not 15 but 30 player to selects best option ) where their senior player tours or about to tours, so you can mix or match
Player from A team to other format easily upto international.

NZ should pick someone from A team like R.Ravindra or Todd Astle to boost their chances in
Vs Pakistan..Both Ravindra/Astle handy as ODI series starts from Nov 7th
Hundred at Galle & 51*at kendy -- Foakes well played
Eng will go 4th day with 324/9

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby Paddles » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:02 pm

givemeahug786 wrote:
Paddles wrote:Chapman has done nothing but disappoint in the NZC team shirt.

He was the domestic star last season, got his call up - and flat out sucked.

His promising odi numbers are from when he played for Hong Kong against further associate teams.

His numbers for NZ are horrid. He averaged 3 in 3 games.

Anyway - I don't expect much from him. He's talented, but very raw still.


Anyway but every nation learn from Us( India) to sends second string of team ( eng Lion, India A, nZ A ,etc) in the same country ( team has not 15 but 30 player to selects best option ) where their senior player tours or about to tours, so you can mix or match
Player from A team to other format easily upto international.

NZ should pick someone from A team like R.Ravindra or Todd Astle to boost their chances in
Vs Pakistan..Both Ravindra/Astle handy as ODI series starts from Nov 7th


Todd will play internationals. Ravindra is not ready yet. But in 2 years time, trust me, NZC fans wants to see Ravindra as the next big thing from NZC.

Everyone (NZC fans) is supporting this kid.
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Finch then saw Travis Head and Darcy Short start put on sun screen and said "Getting a bit optimistic aren't you?"

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Re: Pakistan vs New Zealand: T20I, ODI & Test; October 31 to December 07, 2018 in UAE

Postby givemeahug786 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:04 pm

Imad Wasim to Munro wow
6/3/1/1/1/1

13/0 Game on

Is it R.Ravindra bowler?

7 ball 19 cross batted but hey it's need now, clever cricket
Hundred at Galle & 51*at kendy -- Foakes well played
Eng will go 4th day with 324/9