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English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:10 pm
by Boycs
It's already kicked off with warm up matches in Dubai, not that anyone noticed.

I've just opened up another IHAG for the year. Same as last year.

Cook and co have been released by England for the opening matches.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:41 am
by Misty
I noticed and watched on tv everyday if you talking 20/20

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:51 am
by baggygreenmania
I have always had an interest in English cricket. Trouble is the Aussie sports channels never telecast it. I tell a lie.. they did show us a season of the T20 Blast. My interest lies mostly in the fact that county cricket often sports a sprinkling of Aussie talent. I have always been of the opinion that every first class Aussie cricketer should have at least one season in county or league cricket in the Old Dart

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:56 am
by baggygreenmania
BoyCaught30 wrote:It's already kicked off with warm up matches in Dubai, not that anyone noticed.

I've just opened up another IHAG for the year. Same as last year.

Cook and co have been released by England for the opening matches.

One of my pet hates is that our best cricketers are rarely available for state or county cricket respectively. After all that was the stepping stone to Test cricket for them. International schedules are made to almost intentionally clash with state or county tournaments. At least in Australia that is the case. Can not speak for the UK. Our Test players would find red ball cricket far more beneficial as preparation for Test cricket. Seems these days ODI or white ball cricket is seen as ample test preparation. Playing red ball cricket is a no brainer..our cricket administrators just can not see that.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:22 am
by Boycs
True. Before people got to the test team by county work. Now they spend their whole time in international seconds and under age teams all the way through

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:34 am
by Mick180461
Disregard, confused threads.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:32 pm
by Misty
Ravi Patel took the wicket of Duckett for 69,
MCC vs Middlesex today


Chris Read announce retirement

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cric ... 88979.html
98 Dismissal in international cricket for England's wicket keeper
Raja will miss you.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:26 am
by Boycs
Chris Read says this will be his last season

And in other news George bailey is taking the Hampshire captaincy, splitting it with James vince

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:06 am
by Misty
Is it Division 1games starts in England now?

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:17 am
by Misty

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:22 am
by Paddles
I'm pretty sure the players like the central contract era.

From a NZ perspective, I prefer all the international cricket and no MD Crowe playing almost all matches for Central Districts than 3 tests and 4 or 5 odi like NZ home summers used to be.

I miss the old odi tri series in Aus. Thats the one change I don't like. I'd rather watch a 50 over intl featuring foreign teams than the Renegades plays the Stars.

England is getting upto 7 home tests and 2 or more long pyjama series a home season now. I think central contracts are gone for them too.

With the intl calendars stacked, India played 13 home tests and pyjama series against NZ and Eng this season, there is going to be less fan interest in domestic cricket except t20 franchise models globally.

In NZ we only have t20 televised and the 50 over final; but we get all intls from Ind, Aus and Eng plus all ipl, bbl and some natwest blast games (and some 50 over games randomly).

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:16 pm
by Boycs
Misty wrote:Is it Division 1games starts in England now?


Both divisions start in April. At present it is the university games in the 'warm up' part of the season. The first county championship matches are:

Fri Apr 7 - Mon Apr 10 11:00 local (10:00 GMT) Specsavers County Championship Division One
Essex v Lancashire
County Ground, Chelmsford
Fri Apr 7 - Mon Apr 10 11:00 local (10:00 GMT) Specsavers County Championship Division Two
Kent v Gloucestershire
St Lawrence Ground, Canterbury

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:42 pm
by Boycs
Ashley Giles: City-based T20 is cricket's Brexit, says Bears boss
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/39445994

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:43 pm
by Boycs
City-based Twenty20 tournament moves a step closer as ECB reveals more details
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/39407046

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:33 am
by Paddles
T20 hooligans no longer suffering football withdrawl all summer is my guage of success.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:08 am
by Misty
BoyCaught30 wrote:City-based Twenty20 tournament moves a step closer as ECB reveals more details
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/39407046


Not till 2020 (year) by than BCCI name will be change

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:43 am
by baggygreenmania
BoyCaught30 wrote:City-based Twenty20 tournament moves a step closer as ECB reveals more details
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/39407046

Sounds like a direct poaching of the Australian BBL concept. I would have notioned that the format could rival the BBL. IPL is a larger format with the emphasis on getting local young talent involved and paying test & ODI class players a king's ransom.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:20 am
by Paddles
baggygreenmania wrote:
BoyCaught30 wrote:City-based Twenty20 tournament moves a step closer as ECB reveals more details
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/39407046

Sounds like a direct poaching of the Australian BBL concept. I would have notioned that the format could rival the BBL. IPL is a larger format with the emphasis on getting local young talent involved and paying test & ODI class players a king's ransom.


The conceptual difference between bbl and ipl is bbl is played during height of home summer meaning many internationals miss most if not all of the games (played in the evening to not clash with intls and tests or Perth different timezone); whereas ipl is played in India's international break (and weekend day games but with more day night tests BBL will look for more free weekend scheduling). Plenty of tv primetime cricket and cheerleader dancing in both.

City based franchise pro sports teams have been around for so long in soccer, basketball and US sports, there isn't much thats a novel concept to copy. BCCI (and ICC) harmed the original ICL concept creators and poached the idea if anyone has. Besides BBL turned 6 into 8 using same home ground bases for 6; England is turning 18 into 8.

The question we all have if the fans respond to the England city based teams, is not like the ipl and US sports where some cities lose their team and new cities gain to support a franchise, because this is almost inevitable, but whether county cricket follows suit to 8 or so (city based or regional) teams for FC and 50 over cricket.

With the PSL and BPL - what is SL doing with all its FC teams in terms of T20?

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:51 am
by Misty
BBL? When was other than Australian playing in those 20/20?

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:24 am
by baggygreenmania
We never seem to have Indians in the BBL Misty as it falls during Indian Test season. I am one who has decried not having India's best playing for an Aussie franchises. CA wil never change the schedule as the BBL is its cash cow. It helps pay players wages. It also means that our premier domestic red ball tournament the Sheffield Shield is split in two. This angers so many purist cricket lovers in my country.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:41 am
by Mick180461
Misty wrote:BBL? When was other than Australian playing in those 20/20?

Overseas players in this years BBL
Badree, Bell, Billings, Carlos Brathwaite, Dwayne Bravo, Bresnsn, Broad, Jordan, Lumb, Brendan McCullum, Morgan, Munro, Narine, Thisara Perara, Pietersen, Pollard, Russell, Sangakarra, Sodhi, Willey, Wright.
Some fairly useful players among that mob.
The BBL is the 2nd richest T20 league in the world and that is because we can not match the huge TV audience the IPL has. The only country that can possibly displace the BBL from number 2 spot is England when they get their act together and organise a franchise team League of 8-10 teams.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:35 pm
by Paddles
baggygreenmania wrote:We never seem to have Indians in the BBL Misty as it falls during Indian Test season. I am one who has decried not having India's best playing for an Aussie franchises. CA wil never change the schedule as the BBL is its cash cow. It helps pay players wages. It also means that our premier domestic red ball tournament the Sheffield Shield is split in two. This angers so many purist cricket lovers in my country.


BBL salary cap does not attract intl quality Indian players as much as it can buy Safricans, Lankans, West Indians, Poms (off season), Kiwis, Bangladeshi, or even Pakistanians. Its the height of the season for NZ and Safrica - but better money than scheduled domestic comps in WI, NZ and SA. PSL, CPL doesnt clash as later. Think BPL is later than BBL as well.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:41 pm
by Paddles
Mick180461 wrote:
Misty wrote:BBL? When was other than Australian playing in those 20/20?

Overseas players in this years BBL
Badree, Bell, Billings, Carlos Brathwaite, Dwayne Bravo, Bresnsn, Broad, Jordan, Lumb, Brendan McCullum, Morgan, Munro, Narine, Thisara Perara, Pietersen, Pollard, Russell, Sangakarra, Sodhi, Willey, Wright.
Some fairly useful players among that mob.
The BBL is the 2nd richest T20 league in the world and that is because we can not match the huge TV audience the IPL has. The only country that can possibly displace the BBL from number 2 spot is England when they get their act together and organise a franchise team League of 8-10 teams.


Is it richer than PSL and CPL in terms of salary or just tv revenue for the rights? I think PSL will increase in value with more games in Pakistan and could rival or surpass BBL. I suspect PSL may already outpay BBL salaries, for imports at least.

Interestingly, for those that follow icc growth and compare to different sports; the fear that the ICC big 3 have of taking cricket to china, rugby union is doing the complete opposite - albeit NZRFU is poor but influential and Aus is not influential whereas in ICC terms NZ and SA are just poor.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:18 pm
by Boycs
Hameed has retired hurt with another hand injury

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:53 pm
by Misty
Is he? Really injury prone.Do you think Westley's todays innings vs Durham considered in IIHAH?

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:01 pm
by Misty
baggygreenmania wrote:We never seem to have Indians in the BBL Misty as it falls during Indian Test season. I am one who has decried not having India's best playing for an Aussie franchises. CA wil never change the schedule as the BBL is its cash cow. It helps pay players wages. It also means that our premier domestic red ball tournament the Sheffield Shield is split in two. This angers so many purist cricket lovers in my country.


I think IPL more popular if more player from Srilanka /Pakistan and some other countries plays with more than 8 but no more than 12/14 teams.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:06 pm
by Misty
Mick,
Thaxs I should watch BBL now because its on TV, in India, but next seasons I will surely watch early morning.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:26 pm
by Boycs
Michael Carberry has scored a hundred on his first class return after his cancer diagnosis. Too stuff.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:03 am
by Misty
BoyCaught30 wrote:Michael Carberry has scored a hundred on his first class return after his cancer diagnosis. Too stuff.


Carberry well played
Yes but Essex 333 has poor warm up for Westley (0) and captain, Dosechate (5) vs Durham
I am starving for April 7 games, my chance to listen commentary in Audio plus POINTS starts
In IIHAG

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:08 am
by baggygreenmania
Misty wrote:
BoyCaught30 wrote:Michael Carberry has scored a hundred on his first class return after his cancer diagnosis. Too stuff.


Carberry well played
Yes but Essex 333 has poor warm up for Westley (0) and captain, Dosechate (5) vs Durham
I am starving for April 7 games, my chance to listen commentary in Audio plus POINTS starts
In IIHAG

Misty. Did you read the links I posted for you on Aussie Winter thread re Nair, Sangha and Uppal? Go over there and tell me your ideas.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:50 pm
by Misty
Sorry I think no access for me , as I have to follow instruction from my boss, as far as Australian seasons over now. Sorry for that

Boycaught30
Bresnan 35 not out he just hits 6 and 4 vs Leeds Bradford.I listen Audio on line
482 for 4 Yorkshire, last game before county championship.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:11 pm
by Misty
baggygreenmania wrote:
Misty wrote:
Carberry well played
Yes but Essex 333 has poor warm up for Westley (0) and captain, Dosechate (5) vs Durham
I am starving for April 7 games, my chance to listen commentary in Audio plus POINTS starts
In IIHAG

Misty. Did you read the links I posted for you on Aussie Winter thread re Nair, Sangha and Uppal? Go over there and tell me your ideas.


You can send through pm,I guess

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:04 pm
by Misty

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:40 pm
by Boycs
Cook now has a hip injury and won't feature in Essex's opening bout

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:54 am
by baggygreenmania
Reading this morning that Aussie-born Sam Robson is gunning to get back his England opening spot. Sam played Premier Cricket for his beloved Sydney club Easts over the England winter and says he is fit for the upcoming County season. I had always hoped that Sam would change direction and return permanently to Aus and try to win a baggy green.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:19 am
by Misty
baggygreenmania wrote:Reading this morning that Aussie-born Sam Robson is gunning to get back his England opening spot. Sam played Premier Cricket for his beloved Sydney club Easts over the England winter and says he is fit for the upcoming County season. I had always hoped that Sam would change direction and return permanently to Aus and try to win a baggy green.


Sam Robson good but no where near selection for test match for England,plenty of others line up for England

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:20 am
by Misty
BoyCaught30 wrote:Cook now has a hip injury and won't feature in Essex's opening bout


Link?

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:50 am
by baggygreenmania
Misty wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:Reading this morning that Aussie-born Sam Robson is gunning to get back his England opening spot. Sam played Premier Cricket for his beloved Sydney club Easts over the England winter and says he is fit for the upcoming County season. I had always hoped that Sam would change direction and return permanently to Aus and try to win a baggy green.


Sam Robson good but no where near selection for test match for England,plenty of others line up for England

He said that he knows it will not be easy as there are several players now in front of him on the pecking order. He does however have that inexhaustible Aussie spirit to guide him.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:30 am
by Misty
Hemmings
Hameed
Bell Drummond
Plus
No Robson for sure.

Cook will be there at number one.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:03 pm
by Misty
Hameed pops up 42 odd not out at Lunch

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:08 pm
by Misty
BoyCaught30 wrote:
Misty wrote:Is it Division 1games starts in England now?


Both divisions start in April. At present it is the university games in the 'warm up' part of the season. The first county championship matches are:

Fri Apr 7 - Mon Apr 10 11:00 local (10:00 GMT) Specsavers County Championship Division One
Essex v Lancashire
County Ground, Chelmsford
Fri Apr 7 - Mon Apr 10 11:00 local (10:00 GMT) Specsavers County Championship Division Two
Kent v Gloucestershire
St Lawrence Ground, Canterbury


I think 7 games because I listen commentary in India before lunch from 3.30 to 5.30
Before Lunch.Glamorgan Wobble.

I will update on April 11 scores for all first sets of 7 matches
Leo's first choice Billy G 50 not out at around Lunch.Hameed on 42
(I Guess,20 years later Hameed might 34155 runs in county cricket)

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:46 am
by baggygreenmania
Why does someone not link all County squads here. Boycs32?

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:57 am
by Misty
baggygreenmania wrote:Why does someone not link all County squads here. Boycs32?

Its 1.30 pm in India, I travel too much but I will post all 18 teams soon

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 10:59 am
by Misty
Division 1 schedule :April 7-Sep 28,2017
http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ ... 17/matches

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ ... 017/squads
Division one : english county cricket Available teams

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Division 2 Schedule:April 7 - sep 28,2017
http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ ... 17/matches

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ ... 017/squads
Division two : English county cricket Available teams

Baggy,
As you requested.
Misty patel

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 2:20 pm
by Boycs
baggygreenmania wrote:Why does someone not link all County squads here. Boycs32?


On holiday I'm afraid but could do next week.

Nice starts for balance and broad. Nice to see sangakarra still churning out sublime runs at the oval

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:24 pm
by Boycs
Glamorgan thumped inside two days. They are such a weak side. They had jacques Rudolph and that's pretty much it.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:13 pm
by Misty
baggygreenmania wrote:Why does someone not link all County squads here. Boycs32?



Couple of link above for most but Sussex and Derbyshire team.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:16 pm
by Misty
Bresnan, Livingstone and Westley not in great form as last year plus Brooks still
Not play his first game yet.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:49 am
by baggygreenmania
Misty wrote:Division 1 schedule :April 7-Sep 28,2017
http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ ... 17/matches

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ ... 017/squads
Division one : english county cricket Available teams

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Division 2 Schedule:April 7 - sep 28,2017
http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ ... 17/matches

http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/ ... 017/squads
Division two : English county cricket Available teams

Baggy,
As you requested.
Misty patel

Many thanks Misty.

Re: English 2017 domestic season

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:59 am
by baggygreenmania
Notice Mark Cosgrove is now a resident and not an overseas player. Has the reins at Leiscestshire as well. I will be following his progress with interest. As I will also be following Peter Handcomb at Yorkshire and Cameron Bancroft at Glousestershsire. Only two of Australia's young guns bothered to make the sacrifice and play a English County season. They both will be better for the experience.