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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:03 am

Talk about unfulfilled talent, Shaun Tait has announced his retirement from all Cricket. Remember about 2003 watching the 50 over domestic comp here in OZ. Watched Tait bowl one weekend then Mitch Johnson the next, thought to myself what a golden future we had, got it 1/2 right. Unfortunately for Tait, his Elbow kept playing up, could never gat it fixed properly.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:40 am

Bushies are geting away again. Sayers needs some help.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:17 am

Tait cruelled his own career with his waywardness. He had pace that was all Mick. He wasted a lot of the benefit of a lofty frame by his exaggerated bend after releasing the ball. When on song he was lethal. Trouble was it was all too rare.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:19 am

That was a very mature knock by Pattinson. Obvious he has been working on his batting while on his two year rehab.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:36 am

Seven wickets to Chadd Sayers and five dismissals to the promising Alex Carey.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:31 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:That was a very mature knock by Pattinson. Obvious he has been working on his batting while on his two year rehab.

Like Starc & Cummins Pattinson has always been rated as a batsman.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:49 pm

You mean a bowler who can hold a bat. None of the three can be rated remotely near all rounders. I have to say Pattinson would come close. The way he held off a strong Redbacks attack for hours was most impressive.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:11 am

baggygreenmania wrote:You mean a bowler who can hold a bat. None of the three can be rated remotely near all rounders. I have to say Pattinson would come close. The way he held off a strong Redbacks attack for hours was most impressive.

I rhink all 3 have credentials to be bowling allrounders.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:17 am

baggygreenmania wrote:That was a very mature knock by Pattinson. Obvious he has been working on his batting while on his two year rehab.

The 2 centuries he's got in club Cricket this Summer backs up his claim to allrounder status.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:38 am

Good application being shown by Ferguson and Weatherald. This already looks a draw.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:45 am

Fergo goes like so many of our batsmen do when facing spin, prodding forward to a length ball. Where was the footwork man?

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:24 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Good application being shown by Ferguson and Weatherald. This already looks a draw.

It's looking like a Victorian win big time, not even 1/2 way through the match.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:45 am

It was until the spell by Holland. How did these blokes get thru a professional career without kowing how to play spin. I refer to Ferguson, White, Marsh and so many others of their generation.

Jake Weatherald playing a lone hand. He is surer with the feet.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Katto » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:12 am

Travis Head's had a shocker second half of season. Barely a double figure score.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby MikeR68 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:46 am

What a difference Pattinson and Holland may have made in India! It will be interesting the selection for the first Ashes test. Pattinson should join Cummins but who will be left out. The Vics should have it in the bag now. Well deserved to the Victorians who have proven to be the best state team in the last 3 years. 3 in a row for them, last achieved by the mighty Queenslanders in 2000-2002.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:55 am

MikeR68 wrote:What a difference Pattinson and Holland may have made in India! It will be interesting the selection for the first Ashes test. Pattinson should join Cummins but who will be left out. The Vics should have it in the bag now. Well deserved to the Victorians who have proven to be the best state team in the last 3 years. 3 in a row for them, last achieved by the mighty Queenslanders in 2000-2002.

Holland only would have done what Agar is doing, sitting in the dressing room, O'Keefe secured his spot for the series by taking 12/70 in the 1st test. The problem for Holland is his performance in the last 2 tests in SL where he failed on turning tracks.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:00 am

One other thing to remember guys, is the follow on figure will be 200 behind in this match not 150 as is usualy the case in the Shield.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:11 am

Carey and Mennie showing some grit.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:13 am

Katto wrote:Travis Head's had a shocker second half of season. Barely a double figure score.

Not the only one after a fairly productive first 5 rounds. I maintain that the six week BBL breaks kills player and team momentum. The facts appear to bear me out as it happens season after season.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:18 am

Mick both our spinners under performed. SOK as you alluded to did bugger all after the first test while Lyon up til his 4 in this game had one piddling wicket from some 65 overs since the second test. Yet their brief moments of success will see them picked for Bangladesh and on while the promising Swepson and Agar will have to sit on their bums warming benches.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Katto » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:02 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:Travis Head's had a shocker second half of season. Barely a double figure score.

Not the only one after a fairly productive first 5 rounds. I maintain that the six week BBL breaks kills player and team momentum. The facts appear to bear me out as it happens season after season.


been saying it for years
this split shield season is killing Australian cricket

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:18 am

All in the name of the mitey dollar.. the CA "cash cow".. BBL.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:21 am

Alex Carey continues to impress with gloves and bat. Redbacks now at shorter odds to pass the follow on score.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:46 am

Enliten me Mick. Follow on reached but not exceeded?

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:56 am

Bushies batting again.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Misty » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:43 am

5 days game should not finishes on first innings lead but its happen in India and Australia.I wish this game completes with in 5th day.anyway what is the score after opener hits 100 and 94
Gooch starts his test career with test ducks Finish career with 8900 test runs

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:35 am

Not certain what you mean Misty.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:52 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Enliten me Mick. Follow on reached but not exceeded?

200 in front could have enforced the follow on. Not surprisingly Vic Captain decided not to enforce, bat to about drinks after tea 550 in front, can't lose go for the win. It's not up to Vic to make a game of this.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:00 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Alex Carey continues to impress with gloves and bat. Redbacks now at shorter odds to pass the follow on score.

Aus A keeper could be an interesting one to keep an eye on this winter, who does the selectors regard as the next Keeper, are they happy with Whitemans progression?

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:30 am

Where are the As touring..heard anything Mick? Whiteman has missed a fair bit of cricket of late. Nevill is scoring centuries and averaging 55+ this season. Could be seen only as a short term option given his age now. Carey looks most capable with the gloves and is chipping in with vital runs. Couple of 50s in last two matches. Take your pick?

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Paddles » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:42 am

Who would make the batting core of your A team?

Basically, besides Khawaja, who is in line or putting pressure on getting S Marsh and Peter Handscombe's spots?

Who is the favourite contender for Maxwell/MMarsh spot at 6 come the Ashes starting. Stoinis, or someone else?

I have no doubt barring injury Warner will play the Ashes at home, is Renshaw under any challenge? Ed Cowan has a lot of runs this summer. Will there be attention on his shield games before the Ashes, or is Renshaw locked in assuming he doesn't fall apart in Bangladesh?
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:06 am

Nothing on any A series I've heard of yet but thats fairly normal, what i would like to see is an A tour of England as prep for 2019. Players i can see featuring in the A series this year is going to depend on whether the Banladesh tour is arranged. If not then anyone not involvec in the 2 big ODI series, the ICC champions trophy in june and the India tour later in the year (ODIs) could find themselves playing in the A series.
Players i see possibly playing A Cricket this winter are.
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Burns, Heazlet, Patterson, Head, Lehmann, Khawaja*, Renshaw*, Cartwright, Stoinis*, Wildermuth.Turner.
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Whiteman, Carey, Inglis.
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Pattinson*, Bird*, Behrendorf, Sayers, Mackin, Tremain.
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Agar*, Swepson*, Holland*.
If Bangladesh doesn't happen*

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:09 am

What's the big hurry to drop Handscomb? Ok he didn't have a great tour of India but he is a young man with a lot of talent. Safe for the time being. Can't see Maxwell going anywhere yet and don't forget the 40-50 odd runs he saved in the field over the 2 tests. Just his presence in the covers stop batsman from taking quick singles.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:12 am

Baggers I've started a new thread for Aussies & Kiwis over the winter months on the general forum, so once the Final is over move these discussions over there pls.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:16 am

Will do Mick. good idea.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:25 am

Paddles.
There are no youngsters putting their hand up this season. I tell a little white one. Ashton Turner had a breakout season. Is a handy offie too. Could find himself in some limited overs teams.I

In fact a few of those that showed promise past couple of years have dropped off. Cameron Bancroft (WA), Sam Heazlett (Qld) Travis Dean (Vic) Beau Webster (Tassie). Hilton Cartwright is one to put your money on for a middle order spot in the near future.

I agree with Mick. Peter Handscomb is not going to be jettisoned on one moderate tour. His first abroad I may add. He will learn a lot from this series. I see Khawaja retaining his place with SMarsh to go. Joe Burns is putting pressure on Davey Warner. He had a poor Indian tour but the little bloke still averages mid to late 40s. I do see him on a slippery slope tho.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Paddles » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:28 am

Mick180461 wrote:What's the big hurry to drop Handscomb? Ok he didn't have a great tour of India but he is a young man with a lot of talent. Safe for the time being. Can't see Maxwell going anywhere yet and don't forget the 40-50 odd runs he saved in the field over the 2 tests. Just his presence in the covers stop batsman from taking quick singles.


I'm just interested as to what is expected to take to the field in the Gabba, and barring injury - what will leave the field at the SCG during the Ashes. Maxwell is a spinner, and the 4th bowler for most Australian grounds, have typically been a seamer. This has also been true when 2 front line spinners are picked for the SCG.

As for Handscomb - I'm not calling for him to be dropped, but he is far from settled in the team. A couple of centuries at home vs Pakistan gave his career a anomalously flying kick start to his test career, but it wasn't that long ago that Joe Burns and Adam Voges were enjoying similar flying starts to their careers.

Personally - I would have thought Khawaja was more settled in the team squad for the Ashes than Handscomb is yet, despite not playing in India. But its interesting.

Most neutrals enjoy the sheer entertainment that Maxwell brings to the game with his fielding or his batting, his banter, or his off field antics. He's one of the biggest characters in the game and he has tonnes of personality. I was happy for his hundred, and I would enjoy watching him bat all day when not against a NZ team.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Paddles » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:34 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Paddles.
There are no youngsters putting their hand up this season. I tell a little white one. Ashton Turner had a breakout season. Is a handy offie too. Could find himself in some limited overs teams.I

n fact a few of those that showed promise in past couple of years have dropped off. Cameron Bancroft (WA), Sam Heazlett (Qld) Travis Dean (Vic) Beau Webster (Tassie). Hilton Cartwright is one to put your money on for a middle order spot in the near future.

I agree with Mick. Peter Handscomb is not going to be jettisoned on one moderate tour. His first abroad I may add. He will learn a lot from this series. I see Khawaja retaining his place with SMarsh to go. Joe Burns is putting pressure on Davey Warner. He had a poor Indian tour but the little bloke still averages mid to late 40s. I do see him on a slippery slope tho.


Turner looks promising as a spinning allrounder for pyjamas. Cheers for that. The T20 3 way in February after the Ashes will encourage all your BBL spinners to step up for the Aussie team, I suspect. Hopefully your crowds take to the NZ games, I'm sure they will for England if the Ashes series is half decent.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:39 am

Vics go inexorably on building a lead over the Redbacks. Becoming a bit of a yawn this. Deck is now a belter. Has to be if Finch can score half tons.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Paddles » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:41 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Vics go on inexorably building a lead over the Redbacks. This is now a belter. Has to be if Finch can score half tons.


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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:46 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Paddles.
There are no youngsters putting their hand up this season. In fact a few have dropped off. Sam Heazlett (Qld) Travis Dean (Vic) Beau Webster (Tassie). Hilton cartwright is one to put your money on for a middle order spot in the near future. I agree with Mick. Peter handscomb is not going to be jettisoned on one moderate tour. His first abroad I may add. He will learn a lot from this series. I see Khawaja retaining his place with SMarsh to go. Joe Burns is putting pressure on Davey Warner. He had a poor Indian tour but the little bloke still averages mid to late 40s. I do see him on a slippery slope tho.

The big question mark for Warner is how is he going to handle losing his Super sized bat, there is a few players in the same situation but i think Warner will be the most affected, you never know it might make him a better player.
Cartwright has had a great season in the end 861 runs@53 SR 61, definently a Ashes contender. Marcus Harris has topped 800 runs for the Summer but has to work on being able to come back from the BBL break in form. Kurtis Patterson has had a good summer but only 5 centuries out of 23 times to 50, needs to improve that, 23 Fifties in 40 matches is excellant but should have converted at least 8 or 9.
Head, Maddinson & Weatherald all averaged 33 for the season, expect better than that. The most improved player of the year would have to be Ashton Turner and should be looking at Aussie A selection this winter.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:47 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Vics go on inexorably building a lead over the Redbacks. This is now a belter. Has to be if Finch can score half tons.

Seems to be prospering against the Dukes ball.

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Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:55 am

Moved to Aussie/NZ Cricketers over winter.
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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:03 am

Mick should have waited for the new thread before posting this.

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Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:11 am

Some people write up Travis Dean as a prospect, not so sure, got unbeaten 100s in his 1st match but hasn't done much since, only averaged 32 since.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:17 am

I know what I'm going to be doing tomorrow, watching the rain fall, expecting a lot of rain off this Cyclone.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:50 am

Victoria 6/254 in 2nd innings, don't look interested in a result, a draw gives them the Shield. Alex Carey has broken the Shield record for most dissmissals by a Keeper, 58 catches & 1 stumping, thats a phenomenal 5.36 per match. :hatsoff:

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:47 am

The record in his first full season. Have been pushing Carey's barrow since I first saw him. Something special. This keeper/batsman is going places.

Vics are now past masters at manipulating draws in finals. Why with almost a 500 lead are they batting this morning?
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:50 am

Ashes tickets on sale today. Same price structure as last year. Do not be fooled. Still have to pay $100 if you want undercover.


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