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Australian Domestic Cricket season

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:32 am

Does anyone object to my putting up an Australian domestic cricket topic?
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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Mick180461 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:37 am

Sounds like a good idea to me, especially with the best domestic comp in the world restarting today after 6 weeks of measuring how the 6 has flown and being told only 6 runs off the over is a good result, now back to the real stuff.

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Going South » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:31 am

Yes. Go ahead. There are many Australian supporters here.

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Misty » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:28 am

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Verity » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:57 am

^^^^

Common sense for once, I tried to do this once and got rejected.

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:26 am

Mick180461 wrote:Sounds like a good idea to me, especially with the best domestic comp in the world restarting today after 6 weeks of measuring how the 6 has flown and being told only 6 runs off the over is a good result, now back to the real stuff.


Here here Mick. English Duke ball being used for the first time in Australia domestic cricket today. It found out those batsmen without a solid technique. The VICS only managed 258 against my Blues. Western Warriors did not even make 200 while Qld Bulls are in a solid position over Tassie Tigers of 6-251 at stumps..
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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Verity » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:10 am

Why wasn't Nathan Lyon in the NSW team

Good to see Lehmann back in the runs (55*), looked woeful in the Big Bash.
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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:15 am

Verity wrote:Why wasn't Nathan Lyon in the NSW team

Good to see Lehmann back in the runs (55*), looked woeful in the Big Bash.


Lyon is on his way to Dubai for a pre India spin camp.

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Verity » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:20 am

I reckon the Test players should have played this before jetting off.
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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Katto » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:05 am

Verity wrote:I reckon the Test players should have played this before jetting off.


I agree

they're doing too much of anything except playing first class cricket which is the best preparation for test cricket

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:30 am

Katto wrote:
Verity wrote:I reckon the Test players should have played this before jetting off.


I agree

they're doing too much of anything except playing first class cricket which is the best preparation for test cricket


That is so correct. CA obviously does not have the logic to work that out. These spin camp sounds like the way to go ahead of a tour of India but do they get a team fully prepared? They should be playing cricket matches in Asian conditions against strong opposition not themselves.

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:33 am

Verity wrote:I reckon the Test players should have played this before jetting off.


Verity. You just replied to my post without using a quote. How do I do that?

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:34 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Verity wrote:I reckon the Test players should have played this before jetting off.


Verity. You just replied to my post without using a quote. How do I do that without having to scroll to bottom of the page.?

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:35 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
Mick180461 wrote:Sounds like a good idea to me, especially with the best domestic comp in the world restarting today after 6 weeks of measuring how the 6 has flown and being told only 6 runs off the over is a good result, now back to the real stuff.


Here here Mick. English Duke ball being used for the first time in Australia domestic cricket today. It found out those batsmen without a solid technique. The VICS only managed 258 against the Blues. Western Warriors did not even make 200 while the Bulls are in a solid position over Tassie Tigers of 6-251 at stumps..

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:36 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:
Verity. You just replied to my post without using a quote. How do I do that without having to scroll to bottom of the page.?



Just post a new comment rather than using the quote button

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Boycs » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:36 am

Like this

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Verity » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:43 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:
Verity. You just replied to my post without using a quote. How do I do that without having to scroll to bottom of the page.?


Well you said it... scroll to the bottom of the page :lol:
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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:29 am

Ok so I do have to scroll to bottom of page as there is no reply box after each post.

End of Feb. 29 days I think this year or 28. Never know when it is a leap year or not.

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby Katto » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:36 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Ok so I do have to scroll to bottom of page as there is no reply box after each post.

End of Feb. 29 days I think this year or 28. Never know when it is a leap year or not.


hit the [end] key on your keyboard

erm , when the summer olympics are on. always an even number.

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Re: Australian Domestic Crcket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:45 am

Katto wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:Ok so I do have to scroll to bottom of page as there is no reply box after each post.

End of Feb. 29 days I think this year or 28. Never know when it is a leap year or not.


hit the [end] key on your keyboard

erm , when the summer olympics are on. always an even number.


Thanks for that. I have been using a PC for ages and I did not know about that. Bit of a dummy eh.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby raja » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:06 pm

Glad you got this "comment without quote" thing sorted out, BGM. :-)

And thanks for this thread. Always interesting to see threads on domestic cricket. It often goes under the radar.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Katto » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:05 pm

raja wrote:Glad you got this "comment without quote" thing sorted out, BGM. :-)

And thanks for this thread. Always interesting to see threads on domestic cricket. It often goes under the radar.


well, last time a thread was started on domestic cricket our dear leader wasnt too pleased about it

I was reading about the Ranji Trophy a few nights ago - mainly because I was wondering how they arranged it around the IPL. As my interest was finding a solution to the clusterf**k that is the Aussie cricket season since the intro of the BBL.

I guess the climate in India and lack of too much competition from other sports means its more feasible to have two separate cricket seasons within the one year.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Going South » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:03 pm

Wet countries can't compete with year long dry countries wrt cricket schedules.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:26 pm

raja wrote:Glad you got this "comment without quote" thing sorted out, BGM. :-)

And thanks for this thread. Always interesting to see threads on domestic cricket. It often goes under the radar.


It certainly does Raja. Without a strong domestic cricket setup you are unlikely to have a strong Test side. That is the case in Australia. Our Shield is often referred to as the strongest domestic competition in world cricket. That will probably raise some debate here.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:31 pm

The NSW selectors continue to stick will the old, tried and true player unlike our nationals selectors with their current youth policy. How does Ben Rohrer get a spot? He has not put in a solid domestic season for several years. In fact this is his first match of this season. So he comes in and out goes the promising Ryan Gibson.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:38 pm

It will be interesting to see if the Duke ball behaves like it did on the first day. Grateful bowlers were getting the ball to swing and cut off the surface. Some bowlers, quite obviously unfamiliar with the Duke's vagaries , had trouble controlling it. Made for some wayward deliveries. Others that got their control correct caused a deal of mahem.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:41 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
raja wrote:. :-)
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It certainly does Raja. Without a strong domestic cricket setup you are unlikely to have a strong Test side. That is the case in Australia. Our Shield is often referred to as the strongest domestic competition in world cricket. That will probably raise some debate here.


One of the things the Aussie players who went to England back in the 80s & 90s is they were surprised about the lack of intensity in County Cricket compared to the Shield, it tended to become daily grind and the talent pool being spread over 18 teams the standard varied a fair bit. The Shield on the other hand is played by 6 teams over 10 rounds as against 18 counties over 16 rounds and the intensity is full on all the time.
Too many average Cricketers get to comfortable making a good living on the County circuit and then get found out at International level.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:06 am

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baggygreenmania wrote:
It certainly does Raja. Without a strong domestic cricket setup you are unlikely to have a strong Test side. That is the case in Australia. Our Shield is often referred to as the strongest domestic competition in world cricket. That will probably raise some debate here.


One of the things the Aussie players who went to England back in the 80s & 90s is they were surprised about the lack of intensity in County Cricket compared to the Shield, it tended to become daily grind and the talent pool being spread over 18 teams the standard varied a fair bit. The Shield on the other hand is played by 6 teams over 10 rounds as against 18 counties over 16 rounds and the intensity is full on all the time.
Too many average Cricketers get to comfortable making a good living on the County circuit and then get found out at International level.


I do not expect much has changed since Mick. Surprised that they have not reduced the teams. There is also the fact that in addition to 4 day cricket there are a number of one day competitions. A player could be playing six or even seven days a week. They earn their pay packet but are probably too exhausted or do not have the time to go out and spend it. (pm)

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Going South » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:38 am

On every tour at least couple of domestic teams should get to have practice matches against visitors prior to start of actual tour matches. Or there any games planned against visiting Indian team for any domestic teams this year ?

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Mick180461 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:03 am

Going South wrote:On every tour at least couple of domestic teams should get to have practice matches against visitors prior to start of actual tour matches. Or there any games planned against visiting Indian team for any domestic teams this year ?


The last time Australia played a decent number of pre test County matches was in 2001. What was the last time Australia won in England? 2001... its no coincidence. Its all about the 5 Ps, preperation, prevents, p..s poor performance. The best preparation is playing Cricket matches in the conditions you are going to play the tests in. Be ready to play the 1st test not by the 4th.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Katto » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:02 am

baggygreenmania wrote:
raja wrote:Glad you got this "comment without quote" thing sorted out, BGM. :-)

And thanks for this thread. Always interesting to see threads on domestic cricket. It often goes under the radar.


It certainly does Raja. Without a strong domestic cricket setup you are unlikely to have a strong Test side. That is the case in Australia. Our Shield is often referred to as the strongest domestic competition in world cricket. That will probably raise some debate here.


was up until 5 to 10 years ago.

I doubt its the case now.

Having said that, a full strength NSW team would probably beat any first class team on the planet, however they're rarely, if ever at full strength and that's just one team.

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Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Going South » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:15 am

The weirdest part about games with local teams is that many hosts put that after couple of matches are completed instead of beginning of first tour match. I never understand the reasons given for it and always consider it a disadvantage to the touring team.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby raja » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:16 am

Remember the days when a visiting side would play a couple of first-class games before the first Test of a series AND play first-class games between Tests. Those games would be interesting, because you wanted to know more about the visiting players - many would be new names, who would probably not get a chance in the Tests anyway.

Besides, the home players too would like to impress against the visiting side, hoping to get some attention from national selectors.

I remember Mike Brearley getting 202 in the first or second first-class game the visiting MCC side played on their India tour in 1976-77. I thought he would be a danger man.

As it turned out, Brearley was a walking wicket for a large part of his Test career.

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Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:04 am

Yes Raja they were glory days. When test cricket took front row. These days it is T20. You would be lucky to get threeTest warm ups today. On Australia's last Ashes tour we were given two 3 days games against second division sides which happened to be missing half their players. To make matters worse we were led into a false sense of security by getting to bat on absolute belters. A far cry from the real thing we had to face a couple of days later.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Boycs » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:13 am

That was our plan :D

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Postby Mick180461 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:36 am

raja wrote:As it turned out, Brearley was a walking wicket for a large part of his Test career.


Brearley was a left over from the old days when England picked the captain first then picked the side around him. Great captain but a county grafter at best as a batsman.

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Postby Boycs » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:00 am

Plus it meant more first class grounds hosting touring teams so those fans away from the beaten track could get to see their heroes

Brearley got a triple century once against somebody in county cricket. Though you're right about hit batting ability. I don't think he ever disagreed with anyone over that assessment

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:14 am

Gotta say it is disappointing seeing the sparce crowds at Australian Shield games. Ticket prices are reasonable. Most games are held on our best grounds. All easily located by public transport. The one draw back could be that a good deal of matches are played midweek during working hours. CA could make a point of at least making games finish on Sunday .. not a couple of times but every time.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Katto » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:51 am

shameful response by Hohns
he needs to go - such arrogance

it almost feels like Australian cricket is back to the bad old days of the mid 80's when there were all kinds of fractures and mismanagement which was made worse by the money offered by rebel tours

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Postby Verity » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:37 am

He pointed out that Cameron White himself was a very young man when he was first picked in Australia's ODI team.


:lol: Whites made himself look like a dumbass IMO because he was selected as a 20 year old on the back of nothing except the fact he had Blonde hair and bowled leg spin, he wasn't complaining back then.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Katto » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:56 am

WA win by 7 runs
good match

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:24 am

Katto wrote:WA win by 7 runs
good match

:up:


Should imagine Kane Richardson and Chadd Sayers would be none too pleased with their batsmen.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:15 am

This could be a bit off topic. But CA today chose the PMX1 T20 squad to take on the touring Sri Lankans and it has stuck with its youth policy. No fewer than three of the squad are teenagers...Arjun Nair, Will Pucovski and Jason Sangha..at just 17 years of age. Returning to the Aussie side is George Bailey with Adam Voges as skipper and former Test great Michael Clarke as coach.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Verity » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:07 am

Why did this not stay in the live cricket area?
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby Katto » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:43 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:
Katto wrote:WA win by 7 runs
good match

:up:


Should imagine Kane Richardson and Chadd Sayers would be none too pleased with their batsmen.


Yeah, was a big collapse at the end. SA were cruising with Cooper and Ross at the crease and only about 30 runs to win.

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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:47 am

Verity wrote:Why did this not stay in the live cricket area?


I can move it to live cricket area if you so wish. Or have two..one for live games..one for general discussion. You say the word.

No answer. Ok I have opened a new topic Australian First Class Cricket in Live cricket forum.

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Australian First Class Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:34 am

The 2017 segment of the Shield is underway.

Winners in the 6th round were Blues over VICS, Western Warriors over SA Redbacks while the Bulls were too strong for the Tassie Tigers.

Stars of the round were Ed Cowan (212) Peter Nevill (108) Blues, Bulls keeper Chris Hartley (102) while with the ball Simon Mackin WW (12wks), Redback swingman Chadd Sayers (9) plus team mate Kane Richardson also taking 9 scalps.

So at the end of Round 6 VIC Bushrangers lead from SA Redbacks with QLD Bulls third.

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Re: Australian First Class Cricket.

Postby raja » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:50 am

Looks like Cowan is still going strong. :-)

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Postby Verity » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:25 pm

I hope Peter Nevill isn't written off by the selectors, very much under achieved.
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Re: Australian Domestic Cricket.

Postby baggygreenmania » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:58 am

I used to like the grand old days of Ashes when the Aussie states would vie for the honor of playing the touring England side. These were good games of cricket.. no walkover for the tourists. The young state players would try to make every post a winner as a solid performance against an international touring side could lead to a baggy green. These days the tourist is lucky to get a three day warm up against a third rate Aussie rep side.