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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:56 am

baggygreenmania wrote:CANADA: Randhir Sandhu, Pranav Sharma, Akash Gill, Arslan Khan (c), Kavian Naress, Kevin Singh, Krishen Samuel (wk), Aran Pathmanathan, Rishiv Joshi, Faisal Jamkhandi, Rommel Shahzad,

A little game for you. Name the home grown Caucasian Canadians from that squad. This is what is wrong with cricket today. Not sufficient effort is being made by the games custodians to entice home grown men and women to play this great sport. Many European National sides are also top heavy with players from Sub Continental backgrounds.


This Canadian team isn't white enough for you Baggy? That seems just a tad racist to me.

Caucasian Canadians are probably far more interested in playing baseball than cricket and have dreams of playing in the MLB. Either way, winter's gridiron and summer's baseball take a back seat in Canadian mainstream importance to their winter national sport of Ice Hockey. This is a under 19 team event, are you suggesting that these kids are not home grown talent to play for Canada?

Sub continentals love cricket. Sub Continentals are good at cricket. Sub continentals have migrated. Sub continentals are bringing and furthering cricket with them to places they migrate to. I think you best learn to deal with it or start following a different sport. Ice Hockey is good if you only enjoy watching white people play sport.

Akash Gill - born Ontario

Arslan Khan - born Ontario

Aran Pathmanathan - born Ontario

Rishiv Joshi - born Ontario

Faisal Jamkhandi - born Ontario

Some foreign births - migration dates unknown:

Kavian Naress - born Germany (at one time a proud Caucasian nation if there was ever)

and finally -

Rommel Shahzad - born Karachi

I'd be more concerned with the Ontario dominance in selection if I was a Canadian cricket fan. Time to grow it in the rest of the states.

If USA Cricket is to ever grow again to being internationally competitive, like Canada is already seeking to do, I'd wager it is much through the efforts of sub-continental migrants to develop a club, domestic and ultimately a national structure of cricket teams and players to get it humming. Significant West Indian migrant flavour too. Even if they then subsequently get overrun with a lot of failed mainstream American MLB aspirants now seeking to further their opportunities as professional sportsmen and seek ways to utilize their existing skills in cricket as both fast bowlers and power batting hitters who seek to earn t20 franchise wages.

https://www.usacricket.org/team-usa/
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Boycs » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:51 am

Saw some of this England player Brook batting. The commentators were purring

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:32 am

Aussies 370..PNG 59. Just a lazy 300+ run victory. Aussie side will not win the WC. I am tipping India or England. Kiwis with a show too.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:28 pm

baggygreenmania wrote:Aussies 370..PNG 59. Just a lazy 300+ run victory. Aussie side will not win the WC. I am tipping India or England. Kiwis with a show too.


Havn't seen England play - but India look strong. Safrica v NZ will reveal more who their main threat is. Afg have already caused a big upset.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sat Jan 20, 2018 2:10 am

This Canadian team isn't white enough for you Baggy? That seems just a tad racist to me.

No not racist Paddles disappointed. I had no doubt some of them are Canadian born. Yes most caucasian Canadians do aspire to a NRL or hockey career. That is my point..the game's custodians ICC or MCC should be encouraging the white Canadian or European player to pursue cricket over more traditional sports.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:09 am

baggygreenmania wrote:This Canadian team isn't white enough for you Baggy? That seems just a tad racist to me.

No not racist Paddles disappointed. I had no doubt some of them are Canadian born. Yes most caucasian Canadians do aspire to a NRL or hockey career. That is my point..the game's custodians ICC or MCC should be encouraging the white Canadian or European player to pursue cricket over more traditional sports.


I'm sure they do within their budgetary confines. But you can't help who wants to play regardless (nor who is the best).

You're going to see even more sub - continental origin players in the NZ team in the future. They far outweigh the club players proportionate to national population. And they will continue to appear in Eng and SA teams, maybe even in an increasing rate.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby The Third Man » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:27 am

Happy to wake up this morning to the news that Ireland managed to sign off with a win :)

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:02 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/22106478/meticulous-rachin-building-father-cricket-genes

This is posted mainly for Bolero's benefit as he seems to be fond of Indo-origin cricketing success stories globally.

For those not aware, Rachin Ravindra had been touted as NZ's next KW. But he broke a lot of hearts 2 years ago when he largely failed in the U19 WC.

However, this WC, he is starring with both bat and ball for NZ. His dad is a former team mate and still good friend of Javagal Srinath, who is so into helping his son develop his game, he started a cricket club and has them tour India on playing holidays.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:06 am

Young Baggies bowled out for a lame 133 by the Poms. Only the class of Sangha shone thru with a polished half ton. I missed the early start.. was it a green top?

Just took a look at the deck.. no green top.. just good bowling and poor batting. Our attack looks rather pedstrian too.. Evans and Hadley not up to WC standard I am afraid. Poms will spank our bums here and should play in the final.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:39 am

Ye of little faith Baggers.

The "ginja ninja" Pope getting the Baby Baggies back into the contest at Queenstown.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:57 am

Poms wobbling.. Pope had 4 scalps. Banton the dangerman the latest.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:59 am


Poor stroke selection by Australians but I do not know why McSWEENEY bats lower down, Other day he opened with 156


You and I both. Having two hitters in Edwards and Bryant opening the batting is too big a risk.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:03 am

"ginja ninja" now has his Michelle. This is incredibly stuff. Dare I say.. Aussies now in the box seat.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:04 am

The break tho will not work in favor of Australia as it will break our momentum.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:25 am

Just watched the semi final of 2010 U19 WC set in NZ with Hazlewood and Mitch Marsh staring for Australia. Now please replay the final.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:42 am

This is nail biting cricket. two more Baby Baggies.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:59 am

U19 WC record figures by Lloyd "ginja ninja" Pope

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:03 am

7 for 35 by pope

You mean 8.. best bowling by any cricketer in U19 WC history!!! That was Warne like:

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:05 am

:dance: Brilliant Baby Baggies :dance: Into the semis now.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:24 am

baggygreenmania wrote:U19 WC record figures by Lloyd "ginja ninja" Pope


what a name, sounds like something you'd find in a hardware store

and what-a-head

must've been a nasty sort of pitch. neither side got any runs

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:34 am

decent googly :confused:

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Boycs » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 pm

been a couple of years since we’ve had a “next Warne”
and even longer since we’ve seen a ginger scrawn,
Pick up a ball, tweak it til pundits fawn,
And herald the coming of a new spinning dawn.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:15 pm

the slip fielder for Australia, Sangha had an excellent match too in the field. some excellent catches, Mark Butcher I think said he had fly paper for hands.

I worry about Pope's longevity in the game. Such fair skin to be standing out in Australian sun for too long. I guess his parents must be from British Isles, maybe he should activate that option and play his senior cricket in more hospitable conditions for his complexion.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Boycs » Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:53 pm

Haha is that a serious comment Katto?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:38 am

Katto how dare that Tele journo plagarise my moniker for Lloyd Pope. You heard it here first folks "ginja ninja".

That was indeed a Warne like display Boycs..and yes he does have a super wrong'n (googly). The man not mentioned here is Baxter Holt who kept superbly to Pope. Another good prospect for us.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:53 am

baggygreenmania wrote:Katto how dare that Tele journo plagarise my moniker for Lloyd Pope. You heard it here first folks "ginja ninja".

That was indeed a Warne like display Boycs..and yes he does have a super wrong'n (googly). The man not mentioned here is Baxter Holt who kept superbly to Pope. Another good prospect for us.


I couldn't do any better than "the pontiff of puff"

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:07 am

I couldn't do any better than "the pontiff of puff"

Like it. That is whom?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:55 am

baggygreenmania wrote:I couldn't do any better than "the pontiff of puff"

Like it. That is whom?


Lloyd Pope

or maybe, "the pontiff of purchase"

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Tinsel » Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:47 pm

Bigger upset coming up as Afghanistan under 19 now 109 for 0 off 19 overs, their spinners will UtilizEs Christchurch track in the afternoon for sure

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:44 am

Tinsel wrote:Bigger upset coming up as Afghanistan under 19 now 109 for 0 off 19 overs, their spinners will UtilizEs Christchurch track in the afternoon for sure


not a huge upset, Afghans are an emerging force and were strong in the group stage

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:31 am

Mujeeb has wrecked the NZ top order.

His stock balls are the googly and carom. He bowls the leg and off break as variations.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:08 am

[i] Mujeeb has wrecked the NZ top order. Yep your Baby Black caps are getting a hammering from the Afghan spinners.

His stock balls are the googly and carom. He bowls the leg and off break as variations. [/i] That is quite a handful. This bloke will be a danger come Test time in a couple of years.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:12 am

Where are the famous seaming decks of NZ? These look tailor made for spin and are playing into the hands of the sub continental teams. The seamers are barely getting a look in. Other than Pope and Param who else in the Aussie camp bowls spin? We will need them come semi time.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:21 am

Kiwis bundled out of the WC. Bugger just heard we will play the Afghans in the semi. How is our spin play? It will need to be better than the baby Black Caps displayed that is for certain.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:18 am

I know I'm coming late to the party, but it's a party that I just have to attend. :-)
Haven't been following this U19 World Cup much, but this match has got to be the highlight of it for me.

Chasing 127, and being 47 without loss at one stage...

Memories of the Eng-Aus semi-final in the inaugural World Cup of 1975, when Gary Gilmour suddenly erupted on the world stage.

http://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-sc ... d-cup-2018

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:57 am

baggygreenmania wrote:[i] Mujeeb has wrecked the NZ top order. Yep your Baby Black caps are getting a hammering from the Afghan spinners.

His stock balls are the googly and carom. He bowls the leg and off break as variations. [/i] That is quite a handful. This bloke will be a danger come Test time in a couple of years.


What we need a some western coach or a sports institute to coach him into specializing into either leg or off spin, the way the rest of the world has done it hundreds of years, and to get him to stop with this "I'm a wrist and finger spinner both" nonsense and make it far easier for the batsmen play. Maybe an ICC rule may come into force that means he has to not only which side of the wicket he will bowl from, but what delivery he is bowling too, wrist or finger, or even precisely announce the delivery as googly, carrom, leg, flipper or off.

Do we really want a 16 year old doing this in ODI?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1849 ... e-2017-18/

Nip it in the bud early I say.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:57 am

Paddles wrote:
baggygreenmania wrote:[i] Mujeeb has wrecked the NZ top order. Yep your Baby Black caps are getting a hammering from the Afghan spinners.

His stock balls are the googly and carom. He bowls the leg and off break as variations. [/i] That is quite a handful. This bloke will be a danger come Test time in a couple of years.


What we need a some western coach or a sports institute to coach him into specializing into either leg or off spin, the way the rest of the world has done it hundreds of years, and to get him to stop with this "I'm a wrist and finger spinner both" nonsense and make it far easier for the batsmen play. Maybe an ICC rule may come into force that means he has to not only which side of the wicket he will bowl from, but what delivery he is bowling too, wrist or finger, or even precisely announce the delivery as googly, carrom, leg, flipper or off.

Do we really want a 16 year old doing this in ODI?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1849 ... e-2017-18/

Nip it in the bud early I say.


what's your problem with what he said?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:21 am

Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:
What we need a some western coach or a sports institute to coach him into specializing into either leg or off spin, the way the rest of the world has done it hundreds of years, and to get him to stop with this "I'm a wrist and finger spinner both" nonsense and make it far easier for the batsmen play. Maybe an ICC rule may come into force that means he has to not only which side of the wicket he will bowl from, but what delivery he is bowling too, wrist or finger, or even precisely announce the delivery as googly, carrom, leg, flipper or off.

Do we really want a 16 year old doing this in ODI?

http://www.espncricinfo.com/series/1849 ... e-2017-18/

Nip it in the bud early I say.


what's your problem with what he said?


Please elaborate.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:34 am

Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
what's your problem with what he said?


Please elaborate.


what is your problem with what he said?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Paddles » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:39 am

Katto wrote:
Paddles wrote:
Please elaborate.


what is your problem with what he said?


Don't get ya. What makes you think I have a problem with anything Mujeeb or BaggyGreenMania said?
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:28 pm

Paddles wrote:
Katto wrote:
what is your problem with what he said?


Don't get ya. What makes you think I have a problem with anything Mujeeb or BaggyGreenMania said?


BaggyGreenMania? Long sarcastic rant. What for?

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby squarecut » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:56 pm

Bangladeshis have been trying to beat India in all levels of cricket for ages. They sometimes succeed once in ten attempts when Indians get complacent. Not this time.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby squarecut » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:58 pm

Three Asian teams in semi finals. But I will not be surprised in the lone non Asian team wins it. Yes the same team that lost to India by 100 runs in their first match.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby raja » Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:21 pm

BCCI-U19 vs PakU19 should be fun. :-)
Guess which team I'll be supporting? :-)

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby bolero » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:59 am

squarecut wrote:Bangladeshis have been trying to beat India in all levels of cricket for ages. They sometimes succeed once in ten attempts when Indians get complacent. Not this time.


Bangladesh were overconfident after they bundled out India under 19 from Asia Cup.But that team was a B team, it didn't have guys like Prithvi Shaw.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Katto » Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:37 am

squarecut wrote:Three Asian teams in semi finals. But I will not be surprised in the lone non Asian team wins it. Yes the same team that lost to India by 100 runs in their first match.


to be expected. The subcontinental players, esp Afghans and Pakistanis develop physically sooner than anglos.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:11 pm

Big game for the "Baby Baggies" today. They have to find a way to play the Afghan mystery spinner or say sayonara to the WC.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby baggygreenmania » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:44 pm

Again our opening attack of Hadley and Evans have failed to make early inroads.Has been left to the under rated Jonathan Merlo to do the damage. Pope struggling against good players of spin.

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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Tinsel » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:53 am

Hadley and Evans put skids Under Afghanistan —They shared 16 overs for only 43 — really sinks Minor, I expect Sangha to hits 64% runs out of easy target

Well played IKRAM KHIL (80) failure in earlier matches.
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Re: ICC U19 World Cup: January 13 - February 03, 2018 in New Zealand

Postby Tinsel » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:02 am

Australia need 182 to see India on final, I bet we will beat Leo’s Favorite, pakistan