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Public celebration

Postby raja » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:06 am

Maybe I'm becoming grumpy with age but I am finding that I am getting less and less accepting of noise & various other elements of disturbance that one comes across during public celebrations.

You want to celebrate - do it in the privacy of your home or in a private club where the general public is not affected by your actions.

This applies to ALL forms of celebration. Including festivals (religious / non-religious), political parties celebrating a win in elections, anything.

Roads get blocked way too easily in India, causing traffic jams, not just on that route, but on all alternative routes (if at all you have alternatives).

I've seen ambulances stuck due to processions.

Think about other people whom you might be (negatively) affecting with your public celebration.

And it's not like it's just an occasional thing in India. Say once a month, or once in two months. Every other day, there is some reason to have a celebration of some sort on the streets.

Maybe I just need some quiet in my life at this age.

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Re: Public celebration

Postby raja » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:15 am

When I visited Adelaide last year, I happened to be there exactly at the time of an annual parade they celebrate with great enthusiasm and pomp.

It was a lot of fun.

The route was planned, the road was blocked for the event, it lasted a few hours, late evening.

The next morning everything was cleared up.

I don't think they have this every other week or every month.

In India there are just too many of these disturbances of public spaces.

THAT's the problem I have.

Not to do with any religion as such.

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Re: Public celebration

Postby GpeL » Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:19 am

Absolutely a big issue for me too. My mom suffers BP and of course she is old.. and her BP shoots up if there is much loud noise.

My house is about 50 yards from the main road and inbetween there is a "stage" that is made for the purpose of installng idols. That happens during 3 festivas. Durga puja 10 days, Ganesh Puja 10 days, Jagganath yaatra (5 days). There is a big mela with carousals, food court, fancy item shops, achars, assorted games.. (shooting, throwin balls at glasses) you name it.. stalls

Of course there is lighting and horror of horrors LOUD SPEAKERS.

First year I tolerated their nonsense.. The next year, I put my foot down. I am a reasonably powerful person in my town with friends in political places, police what not.. so I went to the organizers and told them.. either they cut out the noises or next year onwards they will not get premit to do whatever they are doing and that was one. Second, I am going to ensure that THIS TIME electricity is disconnected and no one rents them a generator.

So a compromise was reached with them and the residents. The volume levels will be at a reasonable level. None of the loud speakers will be turned in our direction and will be pointing away where there is a big plaground and no houses. And all noise will be shut off at 10 pm.

The last day visarjan, they have to start early and get out of the area by 8 pm and circumnavigate away from the house on to the main road and not pass thru our street.

Fittus.

They followed all that first year.. next year they tried to muck with me and I gave them a small shock by asking my friend to confiscate their amplifiers.. they have since followed the agreement to the dot.

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Re: Public celebration

Postby Going South » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:16 pm

Once I lived within 5 mile radius of a mosque and hated those prayer calls 4 times a day on loud speakers. The population around that location is 70% Hindu and 30% Muslim yet everyone tolerated it. I tried to stay away from home.

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Re: Public celebration

Postby GpeL » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:35 pm

Well I would not really be upset with that one because it lasts only for a few minutes unlike in case of these celebrations, it would be hours.. that loud speaker would start at 6 am in the morning.. go on till 12 noon.. and then start at around 5 and then go on till midnight.. and most of the time it would be HORRIBLE bollywood numbers (not even hit songs. It would be those horrible bollywood bhajans and sometimes even munni badnaam hui.. and will be in a loop). The durga puja if it were the bengali version nearby, I would not have objected because the noise they make is that of that dhaak.. or drums which is quite melodious and also only lasts about 5 or 10 minues during arathi time and then it is usually silent.

These navdurga/ganesh chaturti and jaggannath (oriyas) gang is usually locals i.e chaatisgrahi/oriya and they can play the most irritating noises ever.

Think ranogpoti re rangopoti going over and over again in your head.. yikkkesss..

(YES you will find that song on youtube).

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Re: Public celebration

Postby Going South » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:51 pm

My problem with loud speakers from religious place of worship not just limited to Muslims. I equally hate Hindu worship prayers too esp those saibaba bhajans on loud speakers. Sometimes they do all night jaagaran (continuous non stop all nighters) . 20 years back during my childhood nobody knew or considered sai as God. Technically He is a human messenger of God, but not God himself. He is a baba aka holi guru. All of sudden during last decade there is surge in his cult followers. Hinduism is based on multi God structure. Earlier, If you go to any Hindu temple you might come across 5-6 "gods" and one of those would be prominent with a bigger statue in the center. The temple's name goes by that prominent God. It's the formula for many centuries in Hindu temples. Some gods have relationship with other gods and there is some type of hierarchy among gods on who is a bigger God than other etc. These recent cult followers of sai baba started treating saibaba as God above all other ancient gods where sai statue would be in the center and that place of worship would be named after sai baba even though there are other "popular" gods present within that temple. These cult followers even plagiarized ancient "popular" prayers & hymns to be rewritten for sai as in take the prayer do a find-replace all and voila. You derived brand new prayer for sai "god". Technically sai baba is a human being & a Good Samaritan but not a God. To many sai baba is a profit making business venture to get rich. So they do marking and advertisement as per new trend of following sai baba is cool way rather than follow other boring "gods". Now armed with plagiarized prayers along with "film" songs they do marketing with loud speakers. They do announcement of special prayers events all night bhajans etc over the loud speakers. They even change popular film song tuned as sai prayer blasting thru loud speakers. Sometimes it would turn as a loud speaker battle where a mosque's prayer calls clash with sai prayers over loud speaker. Many sane persons would turn deaf and India being democratic there is no stopping of these loud speaker wars. If police try to act on preventing loud speakers there would a huge procession that would turn as ugly rioting and property damage. It's the same for Hindus as well as Muslims. The higherups and elected officials would warn police not to take action as a way to prevent even bigger problem expectation why bother, let them be. I would have been super rich today if not for those loud speakers that prevented me from studying all nighters. Ha!

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Re: Public celebration

Postby GpeL » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:04 pm

well I do have respect for sai baba. but ZERO respect for those "bhakts".. My mother not a movie goer, once took me to that movie 'shiridi ke saibaba' when I was 10 years old.. that movie was so noisy, it gave me headache and fever. :D

Yes saibaba affair is ultra noisy.. Oh and those jagarans.. those are about as torturous as saddam hussain.. first it is local ladies singing so they want to stay awake.. i.e not a professional band.. there will be a dholak for beats and a person hitting that dholak with a kitchen spoon, and another one hitting those cymbals kind of thingy.. they will ALL be off beat, sing nasal and above all cannot hold the note to save their lives.. everyone will be singing the SAME song in chorus but horribly off and in scales unknown to any kind of living creature.. and there will be two who will lead the gang.. one who will start suddenly when everything seems quite.. and then all the rest will join in the most bizarre ways possible. It is one of the biggest cacophony you will ever hear.. I think if they have those in border of India and Pakistan, terrorism problem will be solved for ever.

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Re: Public celebration

Postby raja » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:12 pm

Rangoboti re rangoboti... Odia song. Was hugely popular in its time - and is still popular! Love it! :-)

But yes, if you are listening to it non-stop, it could drive you crazy! :-)

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Re: Public celebration

Postby GpeL » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:14 pm

Yup its a good number and it sorta grows on you..it is hilarious but after a while is annoying.

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Re: Public celebration

Postby Going South » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:47 pm

I hate those Ganesh film songs that get played over a week every year