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Samosa tax? WTF

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Sat Jan 16, 2016 3:50 am

Jab tak samosa mein hoga aloo,
tab tak lega uspar tax laloo.

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Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Going South » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:20 am

If someone is illegally stocking/selling/eating samosa without permit they might be persecuted & expect Income Tax raids to find all hidden samosas?

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:36 am

They are a bit high in fat arent they?

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:59 am

NOt necessarily.. there are baked and fried varieties and they aren't that oily.. they are full of potatoes but not fat really.

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:43 am

Striped Lungi wrote:NOt necessarily.. there are baked and fried varieties and they aren't that oily.. they are full of potatoes but not fat really.


Was thinking more the batter on the outside which seems fatty.

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:19 am

The batter on the outside is like a totilla.. a thicker one.. it is bloody tasteless. It is deep fried but it does not soak too much oil.. sort of like say a fortune cookie..it just fries up the outside and makes the rest crisp.. it is a thick batter (not soaky batter like they dip those chicken wings and such but the ones that are of that pizza dough consistancy and then are stretched like a pizza and then filled inside like dumplings and then deep fried.. dumplings are steamed, these are fried).. and, there are baked versions which actually taste awful on the outside but then the innards taste almost the same.. Also there are versions with NO potato in it.. there are onion samosas, mutton/chicken versions with absolutely no potatoes in them.. and what not. Original is potato ones..

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:28 am

I like samosas by the way, but i dont like deep frying
all that liquid heat in my kitchen scares me

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:44 am

Don't think anyone really make samosa at home.. it is bloody long process and thankless one at that.. Deep frying is always a pain. I do not like deep frying because the oil fumes make me nauseous plus yes they are dangerous unless the room is well ventilated. Oil fumes are very inflameable. And even a droplet of hot oil on skin.. OUCH!!!

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:46 am

yeah, thats my point. too much danger

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:53 am

It is a standard snack for any sudden party.. like say if a few guests drop in unannounced (which is the practice generally in India), just run to the nearby shop, get a dozen or so samosas with dips, serve that with tea.. so it is a frequent fare.. at least once every 2 weeks..

Of late I have stopped that practice because too many of the females are into dieting and go.. OOOOOH POTATO.. and there is a heck of a lot of wastage.. If I get like 2 dozen of those at least half will be wasted.. and the problem is, everyone will take one and leave out half of it uneaten.. Now I have started using potato fritters (chips) and biscuits with tea.. or cold drinks (Summer). It used to be lassi but of late I have stopped that too.. too much work. (and people always complain instead of appreciatng the efforts.. oh it was a tad sour.. oh it was a tad too sweet.. oh it tastes a bit 'different' what did you add? Lemon juice?)

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 19, 2016 9:32 am

I dunno where to get samosas cheap though

restaurant down the street sells them for $6.95 for 2. thats a bit steep as we say here.

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:11 pm

Hmm that is expensive. In USA they used to be like 3 bucks a pair.. and you could get them freshly made for that price not the microwave hated ones.

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:49 pm

everything is a rip off in Australia these days

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:53 pm

Wait.. that is sorta not fair..

Lets compare. How much does renting a one bed , one bath (of course a living room and kitchen) apartment cost per month + electricity + water + gas? How much is a pound of potato at the market? If you can give those numbers we can do a proper comparison. (cost of living) and how much does an average person earn a month.. lets take a common job.. a bank teller for instance.

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:55 pm

i dont have time for all those calculations
this will save some time
https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/index

look Australia is all yellow/orange

maybe some cities in the US are red, but then some are green

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:10 pm

Well.. then.. let me give a comparison

A One BHK in USA (not NYC though) would be about 1500 USD. Cost of potatoes would be about one USD a pound. Oil would be about 2$ a litre bottle (eating oil). Rest of ingredients would be about 1.50 a pound. And gas would run about 150$ a month.

Given those, 3 bucks for 2 pieces is reasonable price. Compare that to a buffet lunch, that would be about 20$ per person in an upscale restaurant and in a take out joint about 8$ packed lunch (not buffet) with say enough rice, a curry (non veg) a side dish, salad and dipsauce or raita as it is called.

So for about 40$ per person, one can eat full and get drunk and ciggis. So..

You can compare based on that if the 7 bucks for 2 is a reasonable or expensive fare. Of course it depends on the size and quality of it too.. Usually in India a samosa is about 2 inch X 2inch pyramidish thingy and sorta half hollow. In USA it is about twice that size and quite well stuffed in comparison. What that would translate to is in India if you discard the shell, you are eating only half of what it was.. in USA may be 3/4th of it.

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby Katto » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:00 pm

just an average restaurant here, you wouldnt get a full meal for under $20 unless you were having the kids menu or just eating an entree

an upscale restaurant, you're talking $40 and thats just for the main course

beer in a pub is $9.50 a pint which is 425ml

in a restaurant you might get a 330ml beer for about $7 AUD

wine is upwards from $6 a glass and you only get half a glass

dont even get me started on fuel... the US has some of the cheapest around

cost of potatoes about the same here as there. vegetable oil too.
the premium we pay is on gas, rent, the costs of running a business here, if you have employees, the complicated tax system all of this adds overheads

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:09 pm

So it sorta justifies the price I guess (quality being equal).. you serious.. 9 bucks a pint beer? A pint of beer in a pub in USA is about 3 bucks and in a strip club about 7 bucks!!

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:09 pm

for 6$ you can get JD large on the rocks!!

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Re: Samosa tax? WTF

Postby GpeL » Tue Jan 19, 2016 6:11 pm

Katto just curious.. how much for a six pack (12 oz not pint) LOCAL i.e australian beer in a liquor store (not pub etc) (I can get that for 4 bucks coors/bud six pack and 5 bucks for imported like heinekin/amstel)... I can get a 12 oz take home budwiser from a pub six pack for 8 bucks (which if I sit there and take one at a time would cost me 3 or 4 a bottle/can and with no complimetary peanuts. it is just the charge for mingling with the patrons I guess).