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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:39 am

Going South wrote:Real-estate mogul Donald Trump suggested in a Tuesday interview that the capitals of France and Belgium have been adversely affected by the lack of "assimilation" from their Muslim residents.

Fox Business Network anchor Maria Bartiromo asked Trump about the practicality of his plan to bar Muslim immigrants and tourists from the US, given the size of the world's Muslim population.

"There is something going on, Maria," Trump replied. "Go to Brussels. Go to Paris. Go to different places. There is something going on and it's not good, where they want Sharia law, where they want this, where they want things that — you know there has to be some assimilation. There is no assimilation. There is something bad going on."

The Republican presidential front-runner said Brussels, the capital of Belgium, had been particularly transformed. Belgium has been home to a number of recent terror plots, and was linked to the November attack on Paris, France, that left 130 people dead.

"You go to Brussels — I was in Brussels a long time ago, 20 years ago, so beautiful, everything is so beautiful — it's like living in a hellhole right now," Trump continued. "You go to these different places. There is something going on."

Trump ignited a national firestorm last month when he proposed a temporary ban on Muslim immigration and tourist travel to the US. The business mogul argued that such a hard-line approach was necessary to keep the US safe from terrorism, but critics questioned the effectiveness and legality of the proposal.

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he's right
Brussels and Paris have areas that are no go zones for police

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:26 am

It's sad but Trump has every right to say TOLD YOU SO as he predicted this to happen a month back itself calling Brussels as HELL HOLE ticking time bomb.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:06 am

He predicted this? If so he is almost guaranteed a win.. he can keep saying I told you what is about to come.. prove me wrong.. and point at brussels.. his job is done!!

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Boycs » Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:58 am

It's not a bad observation by any means, I just think his hostile reaction won't help. It isn't quite the same Cold War analogy as forty years ago, your neighbour patrols his yard with a loaded shotgun so you patrol yours with a loaded shotgun. It's more that you're coming home from your job as a steelworker having been laid off and your angry and irritable and one of your kids is quietly sat in a corner with a book that says "I hate laid off steel workers"

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby SuperGLS » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:05 pm

Every time the muzzy terrorists do something like this, more and more Americans will start thinking that Trump is right about muslims in general, and he is more and more likely to sneak out a win in the general election.

If I were like some people here, you'd have to wonder if Trump was funding ISIS to guarantee his anti-muslim rhetoric sticks with people.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:22 pm

I don't think it's any anti incumbent politics to thwart governments by raising boogeyman rhetoric. There is some honest passion about the way trump speaks about it as if I don't care what you think but this is the way I say it, like it or not, I don't care if your feelings are hurt, I goddamn call a spade a spade.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:45 pm

the establishment elite are afraid that Trump will derail their gravy train of corruption...hence why he's demonised by their media

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Verity » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:53 pm

Change your avatar Katto your current one Anoys me
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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:04 pm

Verity wrote:Change your avatar Katto your current one Anoys me


thats the idea :cool:

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:09 pm

Katto, put a Donald trump one..lets see how verity takes to that :D

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:29 pm

Striped Lungi wrote:Katto, put a Donald trump one..lets see how verity takes to that :D


that one ran its course. it annoyed Super and the poms. mission completed.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:59 pm

You are quite a charmer :D

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby SuperGLS » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:46 am

I love Donald Trump. It's true that I love Faulkner more though.
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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:59 am

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby SuperGLS » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:21 pm

Looks like the republicans have settled into some good old fashion wife bashing. Each of them vowing they weren't involved. Pfff.
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Re: Donald Trump

Postby raja » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:44 pm

Trump may be saying stuff that resonates with many in the US.
And yet, he will not win the Presidency.
It is in the nature of US elections that the likes of Hillary Clinton will always trump the Trumps of this world.
And I can't say I'm not glad about that.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:50 pm

Hillary Clinton will start WWIII

even John Pilger who's a massive lefty seems to think she's the worse option

Address by John Pilger at the University of Sydney, entitled A World War Has Begun.

20 March 2016

I have been filming in the Marshall Islands, which lie north of Australia, in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Whenever I tell people where I have been, they ask, "Where is that?" If I offer a clue by referring to "Bikini", they say, "You mean the swimsuit."

Few seem aware that the bikini swimsuit was named to celebrate the nuclear explosions that destroyed Bikini island. Sixty-six nuclear devices were exploded by the United States in the Marshall Islands between 1946 and 1958 -- the equivalent of 1.6 Hiroshima bombs every day for twelve years.

Bikini is silent today, mutated and contaminated. Palm trees grow in a strange grid formation. Nothing moves. There are no birds. The headstones in the old cemetery are alive with radiation. My shoes registered "unsafe" on a Geiger counter.

Standing on the beach, I watched the emerald green of the Pacific fall away into a vast black hole. This was the crater left by the hydrogen bomb they called "Bravo". The explosion poisoned people and their environment for hundreds of miles, perhaps forever.

On my return journey, I stopped at Honolulu airport and noticed an American magazine called Women's Health. On the cover was a smiling woman in a bikini swimsuit, and the headline: "You, too, can have a bikini body." A few days earlier, in the Marshall Islands, I had interviewed women who had very different "bikini bodies"; each had suffered thyroid cancer and other life-threatening cancers.

Unlike the smiling woman in the magazine, all of them were impoverished: the victims and guinea pigs of a rapacious superpower that is today more dangerous than ever.

I relate this experience as a warning and to interrupt a distraction that has consumed so many of us. The founder of modern propaganda, Edward Bernays, described this phenomenon as "the conscious and intelligent manipulation of the habits and opinions" of democratic societies. He called it an "invisible government".

How many people are aware that a world war has begun? At present, it is a war of propaganda, of lies and distraction, but this can change instantaneously with the first mistaken order, the first missile.

In 2009, President Obama stood before an adoring crowd in the centre of Prague, in the heart of Europe. He pledged himself to make "the world free from nuclear weapons". People cheered and some cried. A torrent of platitudes flowed from the media. Obama was subsequently awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

It was all fake. He was lying.

The Obama administration has built more nuclear weapons, more nuclear warheads, more nuclear delivery systems, more nuclear factories. Nuclear warhead spending alone rose higher under Obama than under any American president. The cost over thirty years is more than $1 trillion.

A mini nuclear bomb is planned. It is known as the B61 Model 12. There has never been anything like it. General James Cartwright, a former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has said, "Going smaller [makes using this nuclear] weapon more thinkable."

In the last eighteen months, the greatest build-up of military forces since World War Two -- led by the United States -- is taking place along Russia's western frontier. Not since Hitler invaded the Soviet Union have foreign troops presented such a demonstrable threat to Russia.

Ukraine - once part of the Soviet Union - has become a CIA theme park. Having orchestrated a coup in Kiev, Washington effectively controls a regime that is next door and hostile to Russia: a regime rotten with Nazis, literally. Prominent parliamentary figures in Ukraine are the political descendants of the notorious OUN and UPA fascists. They openly praise Hitler and call for the persecution and expulsion of the Russian speaking minority.

This is seldom news in the West, or it is inverted to suppress the truth.

In Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia -- next door to Russia - the US military is deploying combat troops, tanks, heavy weapons. This extreme provocation of the world's second nuclear power is met with silence in the West.

What makes the prospect of nuclear war even more dangerous is a parallel campaign against China.

Seldom a day passes when China is not elevated to the status of a "threat". According to Admiral Harry Harris, the US Pacific commander, China is "building a great wall of sand in the South China Sea".

What he is referring to is China building airstrips in the Spratly Islands, which are the subject of a dispute with the Philippines - a dispute without priority until Washington pressured and bribed the government in Manila and the Pentagon launched a propaganda campaign called "freedom of navigation".

What does this really mean? It means freedom for American warships to patrol and dominate the coastal waters of China. Try to imagine the American reaction if Chinese warships did the same off the coast of California.

I made a film called The War You Don't See, in which I interviewed distinguished journalists in America and Britain: reporters such as Dan Rather of CBS, Rageh Omar of the BBC, David Rose of the Observer.

All of them said that had journalists and broadcasters done their job and questioned the propaganda that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction; had the lies of George W. Bush and Tony Blair not been amplified and echoed by journalists, the 2003 invasion of Iraq might not have happened, and hundreds of thousands of men, women and children would be alive today.

The propaganda laying the ground for a war against Russia and/or China is no different in principle. To my knowledge, no journalist in the Western "mainstream" -- a Dan Rather equivalent, say --asks why China is building airstrips in the South China Sea.

The answer ought to be glaringly obvious. The United States is encircling China with a network of bases, with ballistic missiles, battle groups, nuclear -armed bombers.

This lethal arc extends from Australia to the islands of the Pacific, the Marianas and the Marshalls and Guam, to the Philippines, Thailand, Okinawa, Korea and across Eurasia to Afghanistan and India. America has hung a noose around the neck of China. This is not news. Silence by media; war by media.

In 2015, in high secrecy, the US and Australia staged the biggest single air-sea military exercise in recent history, known as Talisman Sabre. Its aim was to rehearse an Air-Sea Battle Plan, blocking sea lanes, such as the Straits of Malacca and the Lombok Straits, that cut off China's access to oil, gas and other vital raw materials from the Middle East and Africa.

In the circus known as the American presidential campaign, Donald Trump is being presented as a lunatic, a fascist. He is certainly odious; but he is also a media hate figure. That alone should arouse our scepticism.

Trump's views on migration are grotesque, but no more grotesque than those of David Cameron. It is not Trump who is the Great Deporter from the United States, but the Nobel Peace Prize winner, Barack Obama.

According to one prodigious liberal commentator, Trump is "unleashing the dark forces of violence" in the United States. Unleashing them?

This is the country where toddlers shoot their mothers and the police wage a murderous war against black Americans. This is the country that has attacked and sought to overthrow more than 50 governments, many of them democracies, and bombed from Asia to the Middle East, causing the deaths and dispossession of millions of people.

No country can equal this systemic record of violence. Most of America's wars (almost all of them against defenceless countries) have been launched not by Republican presidents but by liberal Democrats: Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama.

In 1947, a series of National Security Council directives described the paramount aim of American foreign policy as "a world substantially made over in [America's] own image". The ideology was messianic Americanism. We were all Americans. Or else. Heretics would be converted, subverted, bribed, smeared or crushed.

Donald Trump is a symptom of this, but he is also a maverick. He says the invasion of Iraq was a crime; he doesn't want to go to war with Russia and China. The danger to the rest of us is not Trump, but Hillary Clinton. She is no maverick. She embodies the resilience and violence of a system whose vaunted "exceptionalism" is totalitarian with an occasional liberal face.

As presidential election day draws near, Clinton will be hailed as the first female president, regardless of her crimes and lies - just as Barack Obama was lauded as the first black president and liberals swallowed his nonsense about "hope". And the drool goes on.

Described by the Guardian columnist Owen Jones as "funny, charming, with a coolness that eludes practically every other politician", Obama the other day sent drones to slaughter 150 people in Somalia. He kills people usually on Tuesdays, according to the New York Times, when he is handed a list of candidates for death by drone. So cool.

In the 2008 presidential campaign, Hillary Clinton threatened to "totally obliterate" Iran with nuclear weapons. As Secretary of State under Obama, she participated in the overthrow of the democratic government of Honduras. Her contribution to the destruction of Libya in 2011 was almost gleeful. When the Libyan leader, Colonel Gaddafi, was publicly sodomised with a knife - a murder made possible by American logistics - Clinton gloated over his death: "We came, we saw, he died."

One of Clinton's closest allies is Madeleine Albright, the former secretary of State, who has attacked young women for not supporting "Hillary". This is the same Madeleine Albright who infamously celebrated on TV the death of half a million Iraqi children as "worth it".

Among Clinton's biggest backers are the Israel lobby and the arms companies that fuel the violence in the Middle East. She and her husband have received a fortune from Wall Street. And yet, she is about to be ordained the women's candidate, to see off the evil Trump, the official demon. Her supporters include distinguished feminists: the likes of Gloria Steinem in the US and Anne Summers in Australia.

A generation ago, a post-modern cult now known as "identity politics" stopped many intelligent, liberal-minded people examining the causes and individuals they supported -- such as the fakery of Obama and Clinton; such as bogus progressive movements like Syriza in Greece, which betrayed the people of that country and allied with their enemies.

Self absorption, a kind of "me-ism", became the new zeitgeist in privileged western societies and signaled the demise of great collective movements against war, social injustice, inequality, racism and sexism.

Today, the long sleep may be over. The young are stirring again. Gradually. The thousands in Britain who supported Jeremy Corbyn as Labour leader are part of this awakening - as are those who rallied to support Senator Bernie Sanders.

In Britain last week, Jeremy Corbyn's closest ally, his shadow treasurer John McDonnell, committed a Labour government to pay off the debts of piratical banks and, in effect, to continue so-called austerity.

In the US, Bernie Sanders has promised to support Clinton if or when she's nominated. He, too, has voted for America's use of violence against countries when he thinks it's "right". He says Obama has done "a great job".

In Australia, there is a kind of mortuary politics, in which tedious parliamentary games are played out in the media while refugees and Indigenous people are persecuted and inequality grows, along with the danger of war. The government of Malcolm Turnbull has just announced a so-called defence budget of $195 billion that is a drive to war. There was no debate. Silence.

What has happened to the great tradition of popular direct action, unfettered to parties? Where is the courage, imagination and commitment required to begin the long journey to a better, just and peaceful world? Where are the dissidents in art, film, the theatre, literature?

Where are those who will shatter the silence? Or do we wait until the first nuclear missile is fired?

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:24 pm

Well her hubby taught her to bomb a sudanese asprin factory if caught with the intern..

Now she cannot be left behind.. she will do something bigger if she has the power.. a woman scorned and all that stuff.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:31 pm

She might change laws to make infidelity a death penalty crime.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:35 pm

Hmm don't think so.. there have been rumors that hillary's reaction then of silence/standing by billy was to avoid the pot, kettle thingy..

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:38 pm

yeah Hillary is rumored to be a big time rug muncher

I only say 'rumored' to protect against libel

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Sat Mar 26, 2016 4:49 pm

Dunno about BIG Time.. (she isn't that looker for chirsts sakes!!) she might have gotten lucky now and then..

Yaa everything allegedly.. Of course (I have never seen her to really tell much) :D.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Boycs » Sat Mar 26, 2016 7:51 pm

Getting bored of this long drawn out palava

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:53 pm

Source: Scott Adams' Blog@Dilbert

Who’s Afraid of Donald Trump?

My interest in Trump is his persuasion skills. I have never seen better.

A Donald Trump presidency might offer a once-in-a-lifetime chance to fire the government of the United States. If you support Trump, you probably think it means he will remove the influence of big money and make common-sense decisions based on good advice. That sounds like a good thing. If you are anti-Trump, you probably fear he will acquire too much control and become a crazy racist dictator who declares war on China. For the record, I think that would be a bad thing.

So how would you assess the risk/reward of a Trump presidency? I’ll help you put the question in context, then you decide.

Sizing the Risk

As President of the United States, Trump would be both powerful and unpredictable. Trump often says he is intentionally unpredictable because it gives him an advantage in negotiating. The combination of power and unpredictability should scare you. And apparently it does scare a lot of people. As risks go, it doesn’t get much bigger.

But as I learned in school, you can’t compare something to nothing. You need to compare the risk of a Trump presidency to the alternatives. And that alternative is probably a Clinton presidency that is not too different from the current presidency.

So how risky would “more of the same” be?

Budget-wise, we are probably on the road to ruin. The more-of-the-same president is unlikely to stop the special interests and big money players from bloating the budget to the point of crushing debt.

Nor would we have any reason to expect the economy to have any extra zip under a more-of-the-same scenario. So no matter how bad you think Trump might be for the economy, the more-of-the-same alternative is probably a pathway to crushing debts and financial doom.

And once the economy dies, we all die. So as risks go, “more of the same” might be the highest risk of all. The only way we would escape economic doom under the more-of-the-same scenario is for some unpredictable future event to change our direction in a positive way. Is that likely?

Trump, on the other hand, is an unpredictable future event that can change just about anything, as we have already learned. So in terms of economic risk, Clinton is a path to probable budget doom whereas Trump can go either way.

As far as I can tell, homeland security seems effective under President Obama, at least in terms of preventing Belgium-sized attacks. But we have a growing risk from terrorists disguised as immigrants from the middle east. There’s no way to assess that risk because we don’t know how well the vetting process in this country works. But if we assume the people doing the vetting are no more competent than your coworkers, reach your own conclusions about that risk.

Trump adds risk to the world by suggesting a temporary end to Muslim immigration. That rubs a billion people the wrong way. It might spark violence and it might worsen the country’s reputation. The tradeoff for that risk is (Trump hopes) a lower risk of terrorists reaching our soil.

How do you balance those risks?

If you think Trump is a racist, his proposal of a Muslim immigration ban looks like the beginning of something terrible. But if you believe Trump is totally transparent about sacrificing “political correctness” for national security, it just looks like aggressive risk management.

Your Psychic Abilities

If you are sure you know how a Trump presidency would play out, ask yourself how often you have been right about this sort of thing in the past. Humans are notoriously terrible at predicting the future. Consider the fact that almost no human can pick stocks that will outperform the index no matter how much information is available. That should give you some humility.

Some of you are not aware that financial advice is mostly a scam. Experts can’t pick winning stocks any better than a monkey with a dart board. I learned that fact when I got my B.A. in economics. I learned it a second time when I got my MBA at the Haas School of Business at Berkeley. And I learned it a third time when I ignored everything I learned in school and tried to pick stocks.

But now I’m fairly sure I can’t pick stocks.

If you can pick winning stocks year after year, then you might have some unusual ability to see the future. If I ever meet you, I will take seriously your predictions about a Trump presidency. And I also want some stock tips.

Okay, okay. I realize stocks and humans are different. But ask yourself how often you thought a relationship would go one way and it went the other. And look around at your fellow citizens who are divorced or unhappy in their relationships. How good are we at predicting the future of other people?

Have you ever been involved in hiring? I have. I’ve hired lots of people for lots of things over the years. I have also partnered with lots of folks for lots of things. And I can assure you I was surprised most of those times. No matter how much information I think I have, people still surprise me.

Now look around at your idiot coworkers and ask yourself how well your boss makes hiring decisions.

If you get a chance, ask the smartest venture capitalist or angel investor how they spot a winning startup. The answer is that they are all guessing. No one knows what the future holds.

Humans are terrible at predicting the future. We are also terrible at knowing we can’t do it. Ask yourself if you are the rare exception.

Rising Racial Tensions

A Trump presidency might raise racial tensions and increase the odds of violence. I think most observers would agree that Trump is gaming the primary process by doing the dog-whistle racism strategy. He is transparent about being flexible in how he wins, so long as he wins. Here Trump appears to be making a conscious decision to increase the risks of racial tensions in order to protect the homeland, both economically and physically.

Is that moral? Definitely not. Is it a good tradeoff in terms of risk? We don’t know. Ask Belgium.

Bad Role Model

Some say Trump is a bad role model for our children, with his rude language, his insults, his political incorrectness, and his inability to admit wrong.

Other people say that if your kid is using Trump as a role model, you have failed as a parent.

Trump isn’t running as a role model for your kids. He hasn’t even tried to make that case. Apparently that is a low priority for him. He’s more about national security and the economy. So while it is fair to ding Trump for the role model problem, you have to ask yourself where “role model for my kid” lands on your list of national priorities.

Trump Talks Crazy so He Must be Crazy

Trump talks crazy. He says water is dry and up is down except when it is up. His budget is nonsense and his policies seem to shift on a daily basis.

That sounds unstable.

But Trump also has nearly seventy years of track record that says he isn’t crazy or unstable in any way. The man has never had a drug or a drink. He has been appropriately hesitant to go to war and he has never stabbed anyone in the belt buckle.

How many people change their character when they get to seventy? None, unless they have mental problems. The smart money says Trump is whatever he has always been.

And what he has always been is a guy who wrote a book on how to be unpredictable to win negotiations. He’s doing just that, and completely transparent about it. He says he is stirring up controversy to get free television time. And we observe that to be true.

Trump might have suddenly turned crazy at the same time that acting crazy was exactly the right strategy to win the Republican primary. But you have to ask yourself how big of a coincidence that would be.

And Trump has already shown he can pretend to be presidential on command. That tells you he presents whatever vision of himself gets the best result.

Trump is a Con Artist and a Narcissist

What you call a con artist, Trump calls negotiating. I call it persuasion. And we all call it politics. It’s all the same thing. Trump just does it better than his opponents.

And that’s exactly the skill he is offering to the country. The president’s job is to persuade people. He needs to persuade Congress, voters, and the rest of the world about all sorts of things. He needs to negotiate, cajole, and lead.

You can call persuasion manipulation. You can call negotiating conning. But don’t lose sight of the fact we ask our president to do exactly those things.

But what about Trump’s narcissism? Is that a risk?

Maybe. But I have trouble seeing how he could feed his ego without doing a good job as president. Trump is proposing we staple his reputation to the reputation of the country. I can’t see a scenario in which he screws the country and thinks it will work out well for him personally. That would be more crazy than narcissistic.

Those Business Failures

Trump had a number of bankruptcies and failed businesses. By way of context, I have over thirty business failures on my record. Far more if you count Dilbert licensees. A typical startup has about a 10% chance of making it. Trump is entrepreneurial by nature, so you should expect a high number of failures. The number of failures don’t tell you anything.

To judge Trump’s business skill, look for how he managed his personal risk. And apparently he did that well. The bankruptcies protected his personal assets, and his license deals probably pay him a guaranteed advance no matter how well the licensee does. In other words, he made good deals that gave him a big upside but not much downside.

You might have seen estimates from experts saying Trump would be richer if he had simply put his inheritance millions into a stock index fund. But I believe those calculations ignore what he spends, gives to ex-wives, etc. I wouldn’t trust them.

When to Accept Higher Risk

Generally speaking, you want to avoid risks (such as Trump) when things are going well, and you want to invite the right kind of risk when things are not. For example, if you think the budget of the United States will reverse course and balance itself before we are broke, you probably don’t want the extra risk of a Trump presidency. Likewise, if you think there is no real risk from having porous borders, you don’t want the risks of a Trump presidency.

But if you think the government is broken, and you want to send a wrecking ball to Washington D.C., Trump offers that possibility. We just don’t know what else he offers because we can’t see the future.

Sleeper Persuasion with a Trigger

The other day I explained to you that Trump was using “stamina” as a linguistic kill shot against Hillary Clinton. The genius of it – persuasion-wise – is that every normal candidate has some low-energy days. Everyone gets hoarse from too much speech-making. Everyone takes bathroom breaks, and other kinds of breaks. Trump knew that voters would see “evidence” of Clinton’s lack of stamina even when there was no evidence. That’s how confirmation bias works.

And sure enough, Clinton took a few days off from campaigning and people were primed to make “stamina” comments all over my Twitter feed. That’s what I call sleeper persuasion. You put the suggestion out in the world and wait for a trigger to activate it. The trigger can be real or imagined (confirmation bias). Either way, it works.

Likewise, Trump chose border security as his signature issue in part because there was a 100% chance voters would see another terror attack somewhere during the election cycle. Any attack would serve as a trigger to activate the persuasion. Unfortunately, ISIS has provided three triggers already in the past year, with Belgium being the latest.

If you’re paying attention to the news, you know that Trump just doubled-down on waterboarding (and maybe worse) because of the Belgium attack. And the world just shrugged it off this time. Every time something blows up, Trump starts looking less crazy. That’s sleeper persuasion with a trigger.

I recognize this method of persuasion because I sometimes use it. In 2004 I wrote my sequel to God’s Debris called The Religion War. In that novella, set in the near future, a Caliphate forms in the Middle East and starts using small, hobby-sized drones in terror attacks around the world. In the book, the drone attacks are impossible to stop with normal means. The proposed solution in the story – from a military dictator coincidentally named Cruz – is to wall up the Caliphate, cut off communication, and wipe out every living thing inside the walls. (This is not my personal recommendation. It is fiction designed to predict.)

My strategy for that book was to write what I expected to someday happen and use that as my trigger for book sales later. I figured back in 2004 that there was a 100% chance that terrorists would someday use hobby-sized drones for attacks. When they do, the persuasion trigger will be activated and people will wonder what else I said in that book.

Just to be clear, I prefer selling zero books and having zero terror attacks. But that isn’t realistic. Terror wasn’t going to stop no matter how many books I write.

At the risk of spoiling the story, a Master Persuader enters the picture and attempts to avert genocide in the Caliphate. But the Master Persuader does not resemble Trump, in case you were worried.

To summarize Sleeper Persuasion with a Trigger:

1. Predict something you think is likely to happen in the future even if others think it is not likely.

2. Associate a product with the prediction. In my case, the product is my book. In Trump’s case, the product is Trump as a candidate.

3. Wait for the trigger to happen, or for confirmation bias to make people think the trigger happened.

4. Remind people that you predicted whatever is happening.

You might wonder what happens when one of your sleeper predictions turns out to be wrong. The answer is that people won’t remember, or won’t care. And unless you put a deadline on your prediction, you can always say it will happen later.

Most of my Trump predictions have been accurate, but if Trump had crashed and burned in September you would have already forgotten I made a dumb prediction. I saw a big upside potential for predicting Trump’s rise and no real downside. So I jumped on it. And I had the advantage of recognizing his persuasion tools so I could see his potential early. I liked my odds.

Regular readers might remember I went out on a limb some time ago and said terrorism thrives because of a lack of mating opportunities for young Muslim men. The powerful men in that culture have multiple wives and many of the rest have none. Some men, I explained, are willing to die because life does not offer them any realistic mating opportunities. That suggestion was met with the type of bad reaction you might expect. But that’s okay because it was designed as Sleeper Persuasion with a Trigger. I was willing to wait until evidence piled up on my side.

Since my first writing on that topic we learned that ISIS is using captive women as sex slaves to recruit fighters. And check out this clip of Steve Harvey on Family Feud asking what men would do for sex. “Kill” was the second-highest vote-getter. It’s funny until you realize the men answering the survey were serious.

Update: You might have thought “Lying Ted” was a linguistic kill shot. But it turns out it was a sleeper persuasion with a trigger.

The Belgium Analogy

Regular readers know I have been waging a battle in this blog against analogies. The problem with analogies is that people use them in place of reason. For example, the biggest analogy going around lately is that Trump is the next Hitler.

And by now you know that arguing why Trump is NOT like Hitler changes no one’s mind. Analogies are not part of reason, but they are higher than reason on the influence stack. So how do you kill a bad analogy if you can’t use reason?

Two ways. The first is to appeal to identity because that is higher up the influence stack. So, for example, Trump could say some version of “We’re Americans, and the instinct for freedom is in your DNA. Have some confidence in our constitution and in our people that a dictatorship can never happen on our shores.”

Some version of that might work. But it comes with risk. Headlines the next day would be a picture of Trump next to a picture of Hitler, and Trump’s hypothetical quote “I’M NOT HITLER.” That would make things worse because the visual would overwhelm the words. So there might be no clean way in this case to appeal to identity as a way of destroying an analogy.

The other way to neutralize a bad analogy is with an equally bad analogy that cancels out the first one. For example, as of today, the Trump=Hitler analogy is partly neutralized by Belgium=USA-with-porous-borders.

Trump’s largest obstacle to the White House is the idea that he is a racist, despite the fact he has not mentioned race in any negative way. (He mentions countries and religions only.) The Belgium analogy goes a long way toward solving for that. No one in the United States wants to be the future Belgium.

But I also predicted Trump would go on a love offensive to counteract the accusations of racism. He has always used the word love a lot, but usually referring to his supporters or America in general. Now he has started using the love word to refer to protesters and Latinos. You’ll see more of it. Why? Because it works. And it works because your experience tells you real racists can’t publicly proclaim their love for groups they hate. They might be able to do it once, with fingers crossed, just to get elected. But no racist can publicly and frequently profess love for someone he hates. It would be transparent if he tried. So Trump simply has to keep saying love until you believe it. It is nothing but a numbers game now. Love, love, love. He already started. Love is the answer, but the attack in Belgium reduced Trump’s third act problem by half.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:29 pm

I am not taking diliberts advice on anything.. Let alone politics and future..

That said, I think as of now I am favoring Trump over hill.. I cannot tolerate hill and neither can I trump.. but before I was leaning slightly towards hill because of the "gambling" risk with trump.. but now after this belgium thingy.. I am leaning far more to trump than any of the clintonian nitwits.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Sat Apr 02, 2016 2:20 am

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:57 am

He he katto.. you gotta do better than that one to defend the cigar muncher's wife.

http://lawnewz.com/uncategorized/why-tr ... dismissed/

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:07 am

Striped Lungi wrote:He he katto.. you gotta do better than that one to defend the cigar muncher's wife.

http://lawnewz.com/uncategorized/why-tr ... dismissed/


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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:00 pm

What happened in England might happen in USA too and Donald trump is the answer?

http://constitution.com/eyewitness-says ... rica-next/

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:49 am

not a case of might, its a case of will

the establishment and globalists will do everything they can to prevent a Trump presidency and they'll probably succeed

President Clinton, get used to it (again)

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby bolero » Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:26 am

Trump lost in Wisconsin.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Boycs » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:56 am

Are some cracks beginning to appear? The media here in the UK seems less interesting at the moment as apparently our hospitals are failing and our PM is being accused of tax evasion or something

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:01 pm

SGGH wrote:Are some cracks beginning to appear? The media here in the UK seems less interesting at the moment as apparently our hospitals are failing and our PM is being accused of tax evasion or something


your corrupt PM is guilty but he's above the law

corrupt country

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby GpeL » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:05 pm

katto.. you just come.. do a sneak attack and vanish.. whats up with that? You did not bother checking with us for the IHAG too!!

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Boycs » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:35 pm

Striped Lungi wrote:katto.. you just come.. do a sneak attack and vanish.. whats up with that? You did not bother checking with us for the IHAG too!!


:D

And @ Katto: touché. But at least we're not upside down :)

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Mon May 02, 2016 4:35 pm

Ted Cruz announced his vice presidential candidate Carley Fiorina NOW. He has already lost to trump by miles and what's the point?
Late night host (jimmy kimmel? ) says that
Cruz has HP VP.
Apart from the joke, in south India, VP means 'stupid c*nt' and HP means 'Hand Pump' aka selfie while watching porn. :lmao:

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Boycs » Tue May 03, 2016 10:19 am

https://www.ted.com/talks/george_takei_why_i_love_a_country_that_once_betrayed_me?language=en#t-139918

Watch the first few minutes, George Takei talking about Japanese Americans being rounded up and put into camps in 1942 "because we looked like the people who bombed pearl harbour" - sound familiar?

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Tue May 03, 2016 2:18 pm

nope.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Wed May 04, 2016 11:25 am

It's true. There are incidents of hate crimes towards Muslims in schools but government had very strict instructions for teaches on how to nip that in the bud with awareness classes but things are bound to happen. We sure already live during troubled times hope it won't extrapolate when trump become POTUS.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Wed May 11, 2016 1:16 pm

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/c ... ction.html

"The whole world is screaming against Islamic terrorism, and even India is not safe from it," said Vishnu Gupta, founder of the Hindu Sena group. "Only Donald Trump can save humanity."

Members of the group gathered on a blanket spread out at Jantar Mantar, along with a collection of statues depicting gods including Shiva and Hanuman - as well as photos of a shouting Trump.

Above them hung a banner declaring support for Trump, "because he is hope for humanity against Islamic terror."

The group chanted Sanskrit prayers asking the gods to favour Trump in the election, and threw offerings such as seeds, grass and ghee into a small ritual fire.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby raja » Wed May 11, 2016 3:14 pm

LOL.

Advance congratulations to Hillary Clinton, the next President of the United States of America.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Wed May 11, 2016 3:46 pm

First WOMAN president. :up:

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Wed May 11, 2016 4:07 pm

I hope these are jinxes

#CrookedHillary

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Wed May 11, 2016 5:11 pm

Internet's hottest topic in USA is this London mayor's warning to trump as in "if Muslims are not allowed they would attack America"

He infact is helping trump.

All those undecided American voters now see this and feel patriotic to vote for trump. I myself would support trump just on this.

Someone wrote

If we let them in, they will attack America.
If we don’t let them in, they will attack America.
If we say mean things to them, they will attack America.
If we say nice things to them, they will attack America.
If we all take a Xanax and go to sleep, they will attack America.

Pretty much whatever we do, they’re attacking America.

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Re: Donald Trump

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http://www.theunrealtimes.com/2016/05/2 ... ning-mate/

Donald Trump highly impressed with Chris Gayle, invites him to be running mate

Christopher Henry Gayle may end up as the second most powerful man in the world, come November 2016. Highly impressed with Chris’s latest round of allegedly sexist comments, this time to female journalist Charlotte Edwardes, Donald Trump has invited the big hitting Jamaican to be his running mate for the American Presidency.

Gayle had earlier come up for consideration by the Trump camp after his ‘don’t blush, baby’ remarks to Australian female journalist, McLaughlin. But Trump had demurred then, feeling Gayle ‘perhaps didn’t make the cut’. But any lingering doubts regarding Gayle striking a chord with American voters were put to rest after his most recent interview in which Gayle held forth on possessing a heavy bat, threesomes, and gender equality.

Terming Gayle as ‘bona fide Vice-Presidential material’ and full of gravitas, Trump said it would be an honour and privilege to have “the Universe Boss” at his side in running the free world. “I have invited him and Natasha to join the Republican ticket asap. Chris assured me he’ll come over as soon as he finishes with the IPL and knock a few balls outta the park for us,” an excited Trump told The UnReal Times.

Gayle was initially reluctant but readily jumped on to the bandwagon after Trump said he could get to play with even bigger bats in the form of American nukes, once elected. “Sweet azz, I get ejected from Big Bash league but get invited to the Big Boys league. All I have to say to Ian Chappell and Chris Rogers and other stuffy ex English and Aussie cricketers is ‘chew on a carrot and kiss my [edited out]‘,” Gayle told The UnReal Times cricket correspondent, Sara Jacob, before asking her out for a drink.

American pundits have termed Gayle’s inclusion a political masterstroke. “We don’t see Hillary winning from here on. The Trump-Gayle ticket is oozing with too much of sexism and that makes them very sexy. Hillary’s best bet is now another Bill Clinton sex scandal eruption to get the public back on her side,” American political analyst, George Stephanopoulos, told The UnReal Times.

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Wed May 25, 2016 12:06 pm

Trump isnt sexist.

Clintons may have some issues in this area though.

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Postby Going South » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:01 pm

North Korea says Trump ‘wise politician’, Clinton ‘thick headed’

North Korea has backed presumptive US Republican nominee Donald Trump, with a propaganda website praising him as "a prescient presidential candidate" who can liberate Americans living under daily fear of nuclear attack by the North.

A column carried on Tuesday by DPRK Today, one of the reclusive and dynastic state's mouthpieces, described Trump as a "wise politician" and the right choice for US voters in the November 8 US presidential election.

It described his most likely Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, as "thick-headed Hillary" over her proposal to apply the Iran model of wide sanctions to resolve the nuclear weapons issue on the Korean peninsula.

Trump instead has told Reuters he was prepared to talk to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un to try to stop Pyongyang's nuclear program, and that China should also help solve the problem.
Read: Donald Trump attacks US media; calls TV journalist 'sleaze'

North Korea, known officially as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), is under U.N. sanctions over its past nuclear tests. South Korea and the United States say its calls for dialogue are meaningless until it takes steps to end its nuclear ambitions.

DPRK Today also said Trump's suggestion that the United States should pull its troops from South Korea until Seoul pays more was the way to achieve Korean unification.

"It turns out that Trump is not the rough-talking, screwy, ignorant candidate they say he is, but is actually a wise politician and a prescient presidential candidate," said the column, written by a China-based Korean scholar identified as Han Yong Muk.

DPRK Today is among a handful of news sites run by the isolated North, although its content is not always handled by the main state-run media.

It said promising to resolve issues on the Korean peninsula through "negotiations and not war" was the best option for America, which it said is "living every minute and second on pins and needles in fear of a nuclear strike" by North Korea.

The North has for years called for the withdrawal of US troops from the South as the first step toward peace on the Korean peninsula and demanded Washington sign a peace treaty to replace the truce that ended the 1950-53 Korean War.|

Its frequently strident rhetoric also often threatens nuclear strikes against South Korea and the United States.

Source: Deccan chronicle

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Katto » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:03 am

North Korea is one big hoax

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Re: Donald Trump

Postby SuperGLS » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:01 pm

It doesn't exist at all?
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Re: Donald Trump

Postby Going South » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:04 pm

Katto live in matrix world. He took the blue pill thinking its viagra.